Has unfortunately left the club
That's very sad. Thought he was going to be the first one to take the clear path away thats the Chairman's vision to first team regular.
Quote from: Mallard on September 10, 2024, 08:53:05 PM
That's very sad. Thought he was going to be the first one to take the clear path away thats the Chairman's vision to first team regular.
Certainly has taken the clear path away.
I'm not surprised he doesn't share the chairman's vision. I wish him well.
Quote from: MARCUS ROSE on September 10, 2024, 08:59:54 PM
Quote from: Mallard on September 10, 2024, 08:53:05 PM
That's very sad. Thought he was going to be the first one to take the clear path away that's the Chairman's vision to first team regular.
Certainly has taken the clear path away.
Sadly with many Clubs at all levels, the pathway is Academy, first team squad, loan, deemed not good enough and then out.
As Mall says, a sad decision on many levels for the club, losing one of the few bright lights of last season and blowing a hole is SC's stated model for the club in terms of bringing players through and selling them on at a profit but can't blame the lad for wanting to play, wish him all the best wherever he goes.
Brings into question what the real goal is in terms of an academy. Also just another one of our Chairman's ideals that for whatever reason don't actually work. Or in a lot of cases never get off the Ground.
Summer Concert's anyone ? Or perhaps a tie up in Gibraltar that's going to put Kings Lynn on the map ? There are soooooo many others that never got beyond the infamous table. Not forgetting the big idea of January that was going to fill the gap in terms of funding.
Apparently, there's lots of money to be made from Academies.
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on September 11, 2024, 09:37:13 AM
Apparently, there's lots of money to be made from Academies.
This must be the primary motivator??? I can recall a time when we had a reserve team, most of which was made up of local lads who had started playing in local leagues, several of whom made it through to the first team. That route was seemingly far more productive in bringing players through than the current academy set up. Setch at Corby is to a degree now fulfilling that role, so i wonder if this is where Ben might be headed?
Unlikely Rod He just signed Jordan Yong
Very sad indeed.......but this is what happens if players are vying for a place, but don't get opportunities....so important to use the squad you have..........sort of player Peterborough Sports turn into a redoubtable NLN performer. I had hoped he would get 90 minutes V Cheshunt. There could be a few more asking for a way out if they don't get an opportunity soon. If you genuinely believe that using anyone in the squad doesn't weaken your side, then you must action that and not just say it if you want to keep a squad together
Quote from: Linnet on September 11, 2024, 10:12:17 AM
Unlikely Rod He just signed Jordan Yong
I still think he may end up in Setch's capable hands. :dontknow:
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on September 11, 2024, 06:46:01 PM
Quote from: Linnet on September 11, 2024, 10:12:17 AM
Unlikely Rod He just signed Jordan Yong
I still think he may end up in Setch's capable hands. :dontknow:
I'm hoping so. At Corby he will be appreciated and given the opportunity to play.
One key thing that I feel has been missed under the current Chairman's reign is the importance of a few local lads in the squad, that the Lynn faithful can relate to as one of their own.......looking back at times when there was a greater sense of community within the club, there was always at least one or two....Richard Johnston,Keith Rudd,Freddie Easthall, Mark Howard,Kevin Ready,Clive Adams, Neil Fryatt etc etc. Developing some local players through the academy and getting them playing in the eleven not only builds the link to the town, it also puts a few hundred on the gate. It's why it such a shame when local talent is missed or not nurtured and the likes of Sports or Corby or much bigger fish (Aldershot, Luton etc ) benefit.
Quote from: Pink on September 11, 2024, 07:21:14 PM
One key thing that I feel has been missed under the current Chairman's reign is the importance of a few local lads in the squad, that the Lynn faithful can relate to as one of their own.......looking back at times when there was a greater sense of community within the club, there was always at least one or two....Richard Johnston,Keith Rudd,Freddie Easthall, Mark Howard,Kevin Ready,Clive Adams, Neil Fryatt etc etc. Developing some local players through the academy and getting them playing in the eleven not only builds the link to the town, it also puts a few hundred on the gate. It's why it such a shame when local talent is missed or not nurtured and the likes of Sports or Corby or much bigger fish (Aldershot, Luton etc ) benefit.
Pink, music to my ears!
In my opinion our chairman / owner has no real affinity with the town or club. His strategy is less about building an entity that connects with the local community but much more about pursuing a personal vanity project: as the owner of course he is perfectly entitled to do that.
Don't overlook the fact that in reality we were a consolation prize, with Wrexham initially being his preferred option. How they must now be regretting rejecting his overtures?!
I would love to go back to the days when local boys with ability gravitated to and were welcomed by their home down club, usually graduating from the 'A' team through the reserves and some, in addition to those you mention, like the Defty brothers and going much further back Mick Rains and Simon Bush, graduating to the first team. When they kissed the badge, they meant it !! Nowadays we recruit amongst others a player who failed last season at two National League clubs, so was pleased to 'come home'. I don't blame him but i would suspect the main attraction was retaining his full time status? Which surely calls into question the overall value of full time at this level when the majority of the competition are part time? An unproven theory but i believe that at our current level you are more likey to get players who are not wholly financially dependent on football to be more committed and perhaps play as much for the love of the game as the money?
For me supporting the club in those bygone days meant so much more. Maybe it is a generational thing and i acknowledge that it is impractical to have a predominantly local squad at this level but we now seem to discourage rather than encourage local talent unless they come through the academy.
Personally, i wish that i could turn the Linnet clock back!
Quote from: Hello Kitty. on September 12, 2024, 06:24:50 PM
Shooting from the hip there pink.Who's bullets are they ?
:laughcry: :laughcry: only fire my own H K. !
Just something that I feel may have been missed by some. We do after all have a good quality manager and AM, and they are both northern based. We are in a tough northern league and we often hear terms like northern grit. Nothing wrong with that at all, but it's only natural for fans to have a greater affinity with someone who comes from the area or move and settle here as Wright and Lindsay did. It may not be possible to have many in the squad, but if you could get one or two it makes a big difference to how fans buy into things.We have Finlay, who I believe has local connections....similar to Aaron Jones and Kevin Ready I guess. When a local lad does appear who could make the grade, it's important to see the whole package that that brings to the club and the fans.
The key is , I guess, nurturing and persevering with the local talent to hopefully get it up to step 2 standard....there is no doubt that Lynn fans get behind a local lad.
Think we have a few locally based players in the likes of Paul Jones and Kyle McFadden to name two. It's great to have locally based players but only if they are good enough. Then again do the local boys get as well looked after as lads from away ?
It's a conundrum for sure. At step 2 the gap down to the old reserve set up was always too big Hopefully the academy can do the job . If Fleetwood two leagues up from Lynn have a number in their academy that are useful at NLN or higher, then hopefully the Lynn academy can get the odd one through at least.
:watching: Have to say that in the past when local players turned out for KL the football world was very different with the only non English players featuring in Divisions 1-4 were Scots,Welsh or Irish players. If you look around now there is a huge number of foreign players plying their trade even down to non league football if I am correct there are a few at KL. If you extrapolate this then there are English players who if born 50 years earlier would now be playing league football thus giving opportunities to local players if they were good enough.
The world of football has changed, attendances are down apart from the premiership there is little or no little loyalty to the club who employs you as agents are used to chase the holy grail of the £. Gone are the days when supporters finished work on Saturday lunchtime went to the pub for a pint and a pie then onto the match as my grandparents did. My Dad spoke queuing to get into the game and standing with 3-6 thousand to watch a game at the Walks.
Nowadays we regular supporters are rather like Dinosaurs as socially we haven't changed whereas many have deserted live football to pursue or take in other interests.
I fear for the future of local soccer.
Made his debut for AFC Sudbury yesterday
Quote from: Mallard on September 15, 2024, 09:14:33 AM
Made his debut for AFC Sudbury yesterday
A Club with an eye for talent, so good luck to him.
The Club that sold Stokes to Aldershot who then sold him on to Bristol City for big money.
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on September 15, 2024, 10:26:11 AM
Quote from: Mallard on September 15, 2024, 09:14:33 AM
Made his debut for AFC Sudbury yesterday
A Club with an eye for talent, so good luck to him.
The Club that sold Stokes to Aldershot who then sold him on to Bristol City for big money.
Yes, it will be interesting to see his progress.......he seems to have something about him and I have a sneaking suspicion that we will be mentioning him again in the future
Now at cambridge utd
Good luck to him not read that anywhere.
Academies and "local lads" don't work at this level because if they are good enough they will be picked off by bigger clubs, which most are, at the level we're trying to achieve. That system would only work if the crowd are happy to simply be better than Wisbech!
Quote from: dillydilly on September 16, 2024, 12:18:19 PM
Academies and "local lads" don't work at this level because if they are good enough they will be picked off by bigger clubs, which most are, at the level we're trying to achieve. That system would only work if the crowd are happy to simply be better than Wisbech!
To Clubs at our level, there's much more to Academies than just finding a "Gem" to sell on.
For example most, if not all, will be local Lads, so there's a Community involvement.
Also, if handled correctly, there's a fair few Bob to be made out of it as well.
B&G, on bristol website and confirmed on cambridge utd website.Wack.
Quote from: dillydilly on September 16, 2024, 12:18:19 PM
Academies and "local lads" don't work at this level because if they are good enough they will be picked off by bigger clubs, which most are, at the level we're trying to achieve. That system would only work if the crowd are happy to simply be better than Wisbech!
Local lads can work at this level. Jack Defty in his prime could definitely have played regularly. For those of a certain vintage i ask the question: who would you rather have leading the attack, Gold or Big Jack?!
Did Defty score over 20 goals in a season at step2 Rod ? I honestly can't remember.....more of a Ready, Coupe Trigger front line fan, myself.
Quote from: Pink on September 16, 2024, 02:21:02 PM
Did Defty score over 20 goals in a season at step2 Rod ? I honestly can't remember.....more of a Ready, Coupe Trigger front line fan, myself.
Pink, i don't have the relevant stats but he certainly played at this level. Jack had a great all round game and almost certainly could have played at least a couple of levels higher had he not lacked pace. But as always it is about opinions!
Bit of confusion here. Issacson is at AFC Sudbury. Wack is talking about Josh Stokes who has gone on loan to Cambridge Utd from Bristol City.
Quote from: Mallard on September 16, 2024, 05:35:29 PM
Bit of confusion here. Issacson is at AFC Sudbury. Wack is talking about Josh Stokes who has gone on loan to Cambridge Utd from Bristol City.
I got that.........in the end! :laughcry:
Aha .......a bit like the Chinese whispers game......."Ben Isaacson"
"Ben Stokes"
"Josh Stokes"
:cheers:
Apologies for the confusion,having reread my post I can see my error post 22 bought stokes into the topic and I misunderstood the be interesting to see how he progresses post to mean stokes clearly a whoopsie should have realised it was Isaacson the poster was reffering to.
Quote from: wack on September 17, 2024, 06:13:59 AM
Apologies for the confusion,having reread my post I can see my error post 22 bought stokes into the topic and I misunderstood the be interesting to see how he progres :ses post to mean stokes clearly a whoopsie should have realised it was Isaacson the poster was reffering to.
Hey no need for any apologies on here Wack..... we're all Linnets and most on here do something similar every so often
https://www.suffolknews.co.uk/sudbury/sport/his-past-was-at-pro-clubs-but-afc-wowed-club-s-latest-signin-9384805/
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on September 26, 2024, 05:58:34 PM
https://www.suffolknews.co.uk/sudbury/sport/his-past-was-at-pro-clubs-but-afc-wowed-club-s-latest-signin-9384805/
Joe Taylor, Fletcher, Ben. Bit of a pattern developing?
:dontknow: Sorry but are we not getting carried away and going around the houses re young Ben I. He has gone and was obviously not considered better than our current full backs. Only saw him play in one of the home friendlies and he struck me as being not too confident when bought on as a substitute. Maybe playing regularly for a club at a lower league will bring him on. However having been on Norwich's books they don't let players go if they are up to the mark.
Quote from: Linnet465 on September 27, 2024, 06:58:43 PM
:dontknow: Sorry but are we not getting carried away and going around the houses re young Ben I. He has gone and was obviously not considered better than our current full backs. Only saw him play in one of the home friendlies and he struck me as being not too confident when bought on as a substitute. Maybe playing regularly for a club at a lower league will bring him on. However having been on Norwich's books they don't let players go if they are up to the mark.
Only a year ago.
https://www.kltown.co.uk/2023/07/01/academy-duo-sign-contracts/
I agree that Ben was possibly one for the future, however AL, has deemed him surplus to requirements or not of the standard required in his opinion, therefore the lad has been released. We really need to move on now and this thread needs assigning to the former Linnets thread.