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Title: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 26, 2024, 04:59:40 PM
Lynn draw 2-2 against Needham Market at Walks.

With Curzon suffering another home defeat today, they drop to second as Kidderminster leap frog into 1st spot, following their 3-0 away win at Hereford.

Lynn drop to 3rd, equal on points to Curzon, who have a superior goal difference.

Att:  1213.
Title: Today,s result.
Post by: Nigel1505 on December 26, 2024, 05:03:06 PM
Against one of the bottom clubs....no real goal threat, Margetts  not the player he was....will probably have to hopefully rely on playoffs. I know we are still up there! But not dominating teams below us. Not good enough to move up to National League.
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Pink on December 26, 2024, 05:27:31 PM
That's a really poor result.....Lynn needed 3 points just to stay in the automatic promotion mix Just don't seem to have an adequate game plan  at home to the bottom clubs. Thats Sports, Farsley and Needham where Lynn have come up well short. So disappointing when they do well at Brackley and Chester and then negate it.

Also it seems whenever they get a really good crowd in this season they fluff their lines......likely to be back to 800 now for the next few home games.......just stifles any crowd momentum .

Margetts isn't scoring with any regularity........I wonder whether he has fully recovered from that spinal injury.

Our only other dedicated forward Omotayo can't get any time on the pitch it seems.

Surely in today's circumstances one might have expected Hughes (85) and Omotayo (90) to feature earlier.
Are Lynn that afraid of the attacking threat of the likes of Needham that they can't be a little more gung ho at home? If there is no real intention of using Gold then it would be best to let him go.........I am sure there is another step 2 side around that would take him and get 10 goals from him in  the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Nigel1505 on December 26, 2024, 06:14:15 PM
If Margetts isn't 100% why are we playing him. Omatayo coming on with 5 minutes left, poor sod, what is he to do. We are so lacking with goal scorers, why haven't we signed someone who at least knows what a goal looks like at the attacking end of a game. Just seems we are treading water game after game.

Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Mallard on December 26, 2024, 07:17:59 PM
Let's not forget we have a 3rd striker, Williams.   Can't even get a place on the bench. Why was he signed ?

Just had a listen to AL's post match interview. Sounds like Cody Johnson is on his way out.  Plus the Manager wasnt very complimentary toward the people who pay his wages.  Reckons it's his job to call out the fans when they aren't doing their job.  Think after today his criticism should be aimed a little more closer to home after that performance
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Jono on December 26, 2024, 07:24:30 PM
Are we really a full-time club? Never seen so much head tennis since the Webb days at Southern Prem level and that was the level of football played. Very poor. We seem to drop down to the level of the teams we face and fare better by higher clubs
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 26, 2024, 08:33:41 PM
Quote from: Mallard on December 26, 2024, 07:17:59 PM
Plus the Manager wasnt very complimentary toward the people who pay his wages.  Reckons it's his job to call out the fans when they aren't doing their job. 

That's got to be very high on the list of the most ridiculous comments ever to come out of The Walks!   :banghead;
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: rod on December 26, 2024, 09:26:47 PM
Indicative of a club that has no idea how to develop a rapport with its 'customers!'
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: happymondays on December 26, 2024, 09:36:00 PM
Firstly he might like to try and get the team to play attractive attacking football instead of reactive football....secondly im sure the roar of the massive crowd at Curzon is what AL is yearning for :sad:
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 26, 2024, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: Jono on December 26, 2024, 07:24:30 PM
Are we really a full-time club? Never seen so much head tennis since the Webb days at Southern Prem level and that was the level of football played. Very poor. We seem to drop down to the level of the teams we face and fare better by higher clubs

Do you think AL will have his full time squad in for training tomorrow, to iron out a few problems that were apparently evident to him today?
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Quinn Upstone on December 26, 2024, 10:02:10 PM
I don't know who or what will be blamed at the next match if/when we next run into trouble 🤔

We regularly get the one about the quality of the pitch. I'm pretty sure the weather has been blamed from time to time as well. Oh, the refs are always against us. The linos clearly don't know their job.

And now it's the supporters who are to blame. Exactly what is he expecting us to do ?

You rarely get singing or chanting from the main stand (whatever it's currently named). I don't know why, but that's just the way it is at Lynn.

It helps, of course, if we see something positive happening on the pitch in front of us to get behind and we become a bit more animated.

If it's indifferent, people start chatting to each other about the size of the turkey and how long it will take to get through it.

If it's negative on the pitch then how can we be expected to give genuine positive feedback to the players ?

Give us something to cheer about, because Lynn fans just don't work that way I'm afraid. If you're playing badly all you'll get in return is... the sound of silence 🤫

Must we all now not only pay good money to watch whatever is performed in front of us, which at times is of questionable quality, but must also give ongoing, but fake, positive feedback to the team during play ? Exactly how is that meant to help the players ?

Apportioning blame to the supporters is easy because we have no way to give "our" side of it.

Unfortunately finding the "right" support AL needs from Lynn fans is about as simple as pushing fog up a cat's bum with a knitting needle 😾
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Linnet465 on December 27, 2024, 08:02:40 AM
It's about time the team learnt how to find a way to deal with the up and under long ball games instead of joining in.
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: dillydilly on December 27, 2024, 10:41:51 AM
I confess to not having been to The Walks for quite a while, and just watch whatever is available on video. I've see enough, however, to wonder why Crane is always on the bench.  He appears to have some of the pace and skill that we completely lack on too many occasions, and he seems to fall into the trap suffered by Barrett when he was here and clearly the best player in the club at the time.  Managers often convince themselves that they possess some kind of tactical knowledge that makes them rely on their Subbuteo Board formations in which the most skilful players are surplus to requirements. It's complete nonsense!  Successful teams are those that, believe it or not, actually pick their best players!  You might not win with them, but you sure as Hades won't without them!
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 27, 2024, 12:32:51 PM
Quote from: dillydilly on December 27, 2024, 10:41:51 AM
I confess to not having been to The Walks for quite a while, and just watch whatever is available on video. I've see enough, however, to wonder why Crane is always on the bench.  He appears to have some of the pace and skill that we completely lack on too many occasions, and he seems to fall into the trap suffered by Barrett when he was here and clearly the best player in the club at the time.  Managers often convince themselves that they possess some kind of tactical knowledge that makes them rely on their Subbuteo Board formations in which the most skilful players are surplus to requirements. It's complete nonsense!  Successful teams are those that, believe it or not, actually pick their best players!  You might not win with them, but you sure as Hades won't without them!

And of course, unlike Pep, they need a Plan B.

Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Pink on December 27, 2024, 12:42:23 PM
This post is partly in response to AL questioning what the fans want. Well who knows whether AL, ever looks at this forum...we certainly know the media team do, so may.be things get passed down.......

I suspect AL may have been informed that the club is a sleeping giant , when he took over. Possibly also, if you get success on the pitch, crowds will come..eg York, more than 4,000.

However, I believe there are some strong requirements attached for any of this to even be partly true. Obviously what follows is just my take on things:


Firstly apart from maybe the solid core of 700 or so, supporters or would be supporters want to know what they are actually supporting before they commit on a regular basis......what is the plan, what is the intention, will the club be solvent going forward, if it did get promoted, could it actually afford to go up and stay up. If none of this information is available, then what is there to buy into or support ?

Secondly, fans at Lynn are used, in recent times to the club being up there....2 years ago 2nd on 93 points, 2 previous years National League, previous year, won the NLN. To get the crowd building you need consistent home performances....entertaining attacking football and wins, coupled with some pricing offers. There have been a number of false starts this year....start of a decent run, so crowd turns up in decent numbers and then a really disappointing performance when they are there. Those extra few hundred that were there on Boxing Day were there for the experience and/or to give it a try again........they weren't excited by the performance and therefore weren't vocal and probably won't be there again until there has been another decent run......that's just the way it works.
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: DougJR on December 27, 2024, 12:43:59 PM
Sorry to be a voice of reason!!?  Last year we struggled big time and AL came in and saved us from relegation. This year, to think we might win the League is fanciful. You can't transform a failing team into a championship winning side in less than one season...can you?  From the outset of this season a play-off place would have been an achievement and we're in the mix for that. Let's not get above ourselves. We're not yet a club that could live in the National League itself. We need to build in all respects. All teams will drop points against so-called poorer teams - just look at Curzon yesterday. It will happen to us again before May as it will to others. Let's just be positive.
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: rod on December 27, 2024, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: Pink on December 27, 2024, 12:42:23 PM
This post is partly in response to AL questioning what the fans want. Well who knows whether AL, ever looks at this forum...we certainly know the media team do, so may.be things get passed down.......

I suspect AL may have been informed that the club is a sleeping giant , when he took over. Possibly also, if you get success on the pitch, crowds will come..eg York, more than 4,000.

However, I believe there are some strong requirements attached for any of this to even be partly true. Obviously what follows is just my take on things:


Firstly apart from maybe the solid core of 700 or so, supporters or would be supporters want to know what they are actually supporting before they commit on a regular basis......what is the plan, what is the intention, will the club be solvent going forward, if it did get promoted, could it actually afford to go up and stay up. If none of this information is available, then what is there to buy into or support ?

Secondly, fans at Lynn are used, in recent times to the club being up there....2 years ago 2nd on 93 points, 2 previous years National League, previous year, won the NLN. To get the crowd building you need consistent home performances....entertaining attacking football and wins, coupled with some pricing offers. There have been a number of false starts this year....start of a decent run, so crowd turns up in decent numbers and then a really disappointing performance when they are there. Those extra few hundred that were there on Boxing Day were there for the experience and/or to give it a try again........they weren't excited by the performance and therefore weren't vocal and probably won't be there again until there has been another decent run......that's just the way it works.

If AL rather naively believed the club to be a 'sleeping giant' he obviously failed to undertake even rudimentary due diligence. Just a little research may well have called that belief into question? Perhaps though the remuneration and an opportunity to manage a full time team were the determining decision making motivators?
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Grissles Oleary on December 27, 2024, 02:47:52 PM
Talking about draws,who won on the raffle?  :laughcry:
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 27, 2024, 02:54:29 PM
Quote from: Grissles Oleary on December 27, 2024, 02:47:52 PM
Talking about draws,who won on the raffle?  :laughcry:

All I know is that I didn't!   :laughcry:
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: John H on December 27, 2024, 05:56:09 PM
Agree with DougJR. We are 3rd in the league and doing as well as anyone could have reasonably expected. Should we gain promotion to the National League, the squad would need a big makeover, as what we have now would struggle.
We are no sleeping giant, never have been. Our ground hasn't changed over the years and is far from inviting. I get the frustration from AL in his post match interview yesterday. He is passionate and wants to win games. It looks like Johnson is heading back and his loan spell has ended, maybe AL could get a forward on loan. Omotayo isn't in his plans as he just doesn't score enough goals for a number 9.
Boxing Day and New Years Day always attract bigger attendances, just see how many will be at Scunthorpe, and it isn't because we will be in town.
As for what the fans want, probably attractive attacking football without inflated prices to sit in a shabby and unclean stand.
Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Mallard on December 27, 2024, 06:29:41 PM
For me it seems AL builds a team that is hard to breakdown.  After all if you don't concede you don't lose.  Taylor playing in a midfield role is a prime example.   Ok Saturday they shipped two against a team who I believe will get relegated this season.  For me the issues lay at the top end of the field.  Margetts will score goals IF he gets the service.  Gold can't get serious game time.  Is Lakeland now seeing what everyone told him when he signed him.  The guy is a big unit but could trap a bag of cement.  His hold up play is nowhere near this level.    Then we come to the other striker on the books, Williams.  One question.  Why on earth was he signed.?

AL seems happy to grind results.  On the road that's great.  Any point on your travels is a precious one.  However at home the fans want excitement  not the four, turgid stuff  t like what was served up on Boxing Day

How can a team destroy a side like top of the League Kidderminster 4-0, yet play out a poor 'Desmond' against a side of the standard of Needham Market ?  Is it a motivational problem or have we a few too many Billy Big Bollicks in our squad who think teams are just going to lay down and hand us the points ?

Lakeland said in his post match we didn't get out of 2nd gear.  Maybe he should be more concerned with that than offering criticism to people who spend their hard earned for him to enjoy the benefits that he is given  at this Club.

I truly believe at step 2 us fans were spoilt under Culverhouse.  His part time teams in terms of entertainment were streets ahead of AL's full time  line-ups

Title: Re: Boxing Day draw.
Post by: Linnet465 on December 28, 2024, 07:54:11 AM
Dilly dilly comments re Crane yes he is quick yes he gets by a man then he fails mostly
losing the ball. Like one or two others he is not good enough for this level imho
Title: Re: Today,s result.
Post by: little John on December 28, 2024, 03:19:08 PM
No pllayoff...please!
Quote from: Nigel1505 on December 26, 2024, 05:03:06 PM
Against one of the bottom clubs....no real goal threat, Margetts  not the player he was....will probably have to hopefully rely on playoffs. I know we are still up there! But not dominating teams below us. Not good enough to move up to National League.