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Title: Off field?
Post by: Grissles Oleary on May 28, 2025, 11:14:51 AM
Now we have a manager in situ and palyers starting to move has he like many other teams got his eye on a few friendlies? As to off field now the dust is settling can we expect announcements on season tickets,early bird or otherwise? Also now that the bar is looking a bit more like a bar with pool table and fruit machines does this mean more opening time for the bar? Will be be seeing more events at the club,quizzes,race nights or music nights,could this be where the trust could come in as they know how to fund raise,albeit not vast amounts,but every little helps? :dontknow:
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: rod on May 28, 2025, 01:55:30 PM
I may have missed the announcement but do we know exactly who will be running the off field operation? Bal?
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Grissles Oleary on May 28, 2025, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: rod on May 28, 2025, 01:55:30 PM
I may have missed the announcement but do we know exactly who will be running the off field operation? Bal?

They are probably as we speak dotting the t's and crossing their i's?  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: m a hill on May 29, 2025, 01:10:08 AM
I believe Bal will be running the day to day running of the club
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: rod on June 03, 2025, 11:20:45 AM
Things seem to becoming together on the pitch but i am disappointed at the lack of clarity regarding off field activities subsequent to the announcement following the meeting with The Trust. Perhaps i should not be surprised but maybe i have missed something as i am not a regular user of social media. My main source of information is this forum and the KLTFC website. By way of example, i have not seen a formal announcement of Bal's involvement. It has just been gossip, conjecture and rumour from those who appear to have access to inside information. No official club statement???
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blueboy on June 03, 2025, 11:45:24 AM
Would assume that no formal statement will be made until the FA's fit and proper person formalities have been completed.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Veratis on June 03, 2025, 01:11:34 PM
To be fair Rod its only 10 days since takeover was announced at which stage the Club had no manager/coach and only ten retained players plus a million things that had not been dealt with by the previous owner. Also Tsi statement did say there were lots of regulatory matters to be completed. Lets give them some time and hope that all the right things are being done to put the Club on the correct path for the future after 9 years of chaos.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 03, 2025, 01:41:23 PM
I'd heard (true or not) that NL and FA matters are all sorted and it was only the DCMS matter (I suppose that really means half a million matters) to sort out now.   :dontknow:

Going forward, I'm not that hopeful that communication with supporters will be any better than previously, unless those at the Club want something.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Mallard on June 03, 2025, 01:46:49 PM
500,000 matters plus interest.

I really do hope the new regime to take full advantage of this latest feel good factor.  They have the perfect opportunity to  engage with its fan base ( and beyond) to get the fans onside.  Little titbits to show everyone there is a bold bright new future.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Grissles Oleary on June 03, 2025, 01:50:13 PM
Many other clubs have already released season ticket prices,and some also arranged friendlies? :dontknow:
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 03, 2025, 01:52:46 PM
Quote from: Grissles Oleary on June 03, 2025, 01:50:13 PM
Many other clubs have already released season ticket prices,and some also arranged friendlies? :dontknow:


Pre Season
Tuesday 8th July
Wroxham v King's Lynn 19.30
Tuesday 29th July
Stamford v King's Lynn  19.30
Saturday 2nd August
King's Lynn v Spalding Utd
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Mallard on June 03, 2025, 02:15:22 PM
Will give it an early look at the Ginger Pickle Arena
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on June 03, 2025, 03:48:17 PM
Quote from: Grissles Oleary on June 03, 2025, 01:50:13 PM
Many other clubs have already released season ticket prices,and some also arranged friendlies? :dontknow:

That would be the established clubs Grissles.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: happymondays on June 03, 2025, 04:46:29 PM
A photo of Jo and Bal at the walks and an official announcement and then everyone can move forward together...oh and a clarification that Mr Cleeve has definitely left the building.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: rod on June 03, 2025, 05:06:01 PM
Quote from: Veratis on June 03, 2025, 01:11:34 PM
To be fair Rod its only 10 days since takeover was announced at which stage the Club had no manager/coach and only ten retained players plus a million things that had not been dealt with by the previous owner. Also Tsi statement did say there were lots of regulatory matters to be completed. Lets give them some time and hope that all the right things are being done to put the Club on the correct path for the future after 9 years of chaos.

I'd settle for knowing which individual is running day to day off field activities. Surely not too much to ask?!
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 03, 2025, 06:00:06 PM
Quote from: happymondays on June 03, 2025, 04:46:29 PM
A photo of Jo and Bal at the walks and an official announcement and then everyone can move forward together...oh and a clarification that Mr Cleeve has definitely left the building.

He's still there, with him and his wife still being the only shareholders in Blue and Gold Holdings, which hold the shares in the club.

Bal and Jo have this irrevocable power of attorney (apparently) which gives them control of the club and it's activities.

So, no real takeover of the club as yet. What they have done will allow them to ensure the club can operate on a day to day basis.

Elvis has not left the building yet!
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Mallard on June 03, 2025, 06:05:40 PM
So presumably the Trust are not involved  yet and can't really do a deal until the i's are dotted and T's crossed between Bal/Jo and SC. 

Maybe the Trust could issue an update on the current situation if they have anything to report ?
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 03, 2025, 06:13:41 PM
Quote from: Mallard on June 03, 2025, 06:05:40 PM
So presumably the Trust are not involved  yet and can't really do a deal until the i's are dotted and T's crossed between Bal/Jo and SC. 

Maybe the Trust could issue an update on the current situation if they have any think to report ?

I presume that nothing more can be done until DCMS agree to the terms submitted to them.

Not just the repayment of the loan, but also who the Directors will be once Cleeve is no longer involved.



:dontknow:
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Mallard on June 03, 2025, 06:16:47 PM
Surely if the terms of loan are changed as in reduction or repayment period then this will be the same for every other Sports Club that took out these loans. I mean can't see it being re- adjusted uniquely for Kings Lynn.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Nigel1505 on June 03, 2025, 06:34:34 PM
Is any of this rhetoric about who's in charge of this and that...who owns this and that...who is culpable about this and that...who is going to help KLFC get the ball in the opposition's net? Only young lads plus some older heads are going to do that. You can have Sir Alex and the best financial brains in the world...it won't get you promoted unless you have the raw ingredients of decent players to get you there. This is a football forum.. not a Financial Times forum... I couldn't give a ufck who's in charge as long as they have their heart in  KLFC and what the future holds for MY club.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Grissles Oleary on June 03, 2025, 08:55:40 PM
I just want to know how much a season ticket will be? For the first time in all these years I will be able to attend every game. :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Mallard on June 03, 2025, 09:05:03 PM
I'd like to get one for the first time in a long long while.  I will only maybe use it to half the games but always good to support something that's hopefully going to be run in the correct manner
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Grissles Oleary on June 03, 2025, 10:11:36 PM
Quote from: Mallard on June 03, 2025, 09:05:03 PM
I'd like to get one for the first time in a long long while.  I will only maybe use it to half the games but always good to support something that's hopefully going to be run in the correct manner

Shift work or lack of funds has prevented me getting season tickets in the past,now impending retirement has made it possible.Some seasons I have made more away games than home games. :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on June 04, 2025, 07:14:29 AM
Why should Clubs get off repaying the unnecessary DCMS loans  which they took on. Let one off and they'll all want the same.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 04, 2025, 08:27:00 AM
Quote from: MARCUS ROSE on June 04, 2025, 07:14:29 AM
Why should Clubs get off repaying the unnecessary DCMS loans  which they took on. Let one off and they'll all want the same.

Exactly.

Taxpayers money that can otherwise be used on important projects. There's enough out there!

It's not "free" money.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: TonyM on June 04, 2025, 09:05:36 AM
Quote from: Nigel1505 on June 03, 2025, 06:34:34 PM
Is any of this rhetoric about who's in charge of this and that...who owns this and that...who is culpable about this and that...who is going to help KLFC get the ball in the opposition's net? Only young lads plus some older heads are going to do that. You can have Sir Alex and the best financial brains in the world...it won't get you promoted unless you have the raw ingredients of decent players to get you there. This is a football forum.. not a Financial Times forum... I couldn't give a ufck who's in charge as long as they have their heart in  KLFC and what the future holds for MY club.

Nigel, appreciate your view and I think it is probably a view held by the majority of attendees at the Walks on any given Saturday but... if you are not interested then can I politely suggest you just ignore these threads.  Equally there are a subsection of fans who are concerned about how the club has been run in the past (with the result that we were very, very close to liquidation again) and about how it is run in the future (and the implications this may or may not have in respect of the budget available to JR for this coming season).  It would be great if football forums could just concentrate on what happened on the field but unfortunately there are too many examples of of supporters (including KLFC) losing their clubs for finance and good governance not to be an issue.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Colin Fuller on June 04, 2025, 02:41:11 PM
You can not divorce the way a club is run from the football side of it. The lack of financial prudence and the woeful infrastructure at Lynn over the years has quite clearly impacted what has happened on the field. For instance, the budget was clearly an issue when Mr Hughes was made manager and recruitment was not of the quality needed to sustain NLN standards, hence the relegation threat that followed. Mr Lakeland improved the squad but the financial fallout that has followed has been a price too high.
A well run club needs good sponsorship and a commercial department helping to provide the necessary funds to back player recruitment. Have Lynn had either of these consistently during Mr Cleeve's tenure?
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Mallard on June 04, 2025, 02:58:13 PM
Find it 'interesting' that anyone could be blinkered enough to think it's all about the playing side.  That's a Saturday afternoon and Tuesday evening for 90 mins each. The rest  of week is finding  the money to make those two 90 mins periods happen.

In simple terms without one you don't get to watch the other.

As for the loan money then of course this has to be repaid.  The Club received a massive grant during covid.  As I recall it was made clear to all organisations that the next batch of money was to be on loan basis.  It was up to each individual Club ( or in our case one individual) whether they took out the loan.  SC decided to take it, only to suffer relegation regardless.

Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: rod on June 04, 2025, 03:44:16 PM
A successful football club is the sum of many parts, not just what happens on the pitch. In fact sustained 'success' more often than not is driven by what happens behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 04, 2025, 03:48:16 PM
Quote from: Colin Fuller on June 04, 2025, 02:41:11 PM

A well run club needs good sponsorship and a commercial department helping to provide the necessary funds to back player recruitment.


Indeed Colin.

I think the Club maybe missed a trick by not having a Nail Bar and a Car Wash under the stand and open on Match days.

Supporters could have used these while eating their plant based Ice Creams.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Mallard on June 04, 2025, 04:30:40 PM
Not forgetting Chips at 8 quid a pop.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: rod on June 04, 2025, 04:32:29 PM
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on June 04, 2025, 03:48:16 PM
Quote from: Colin Fuller on June 04, 2025, 02:41:11 PM

A well run club needs good sponsorship and a commercial department helping to provide the necessary funds to back player recruitment.


Indeed Colin.

I think the Club maybe missed a trick by not having a Nail Bar and a Car Wash under the stand and open on Match days.

Supporters could have used these while eating their plant based Ice Creams.

And a Turkish barbers?
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 04, 2025, 10:39:53 PM
Quote from: rod on June 04, 2025, 04:32:29 PM
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on June 04, 2025, 03:48:16 PM
Quote from: Colin Fuller on June 04, 2025, 02:41:11 PM

A well run club needs good sponsorship and a commercial department helping to provide the necessary funds to back player recruitment.


Indeed Colin.

I think the Club maybe missed a trick by not having a Nail Bar and a Car Wash under the stand and open on Match days.

Supporters could have used these while eating their plant based Ice Creams.

And a Turkish barbers?

Something for the weekend Sir?

😊
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Quinn Upstone on June 04, 2025, 11:15:57 PM
"I couldn't give a ufck who's in charge as long as they have their heart in  KLFC and what the future holds for MY club."

Oh dear 1505 what a horrible attitude, very shortsighted and just plain wrong 🤐

I've been taken to task by a good friend on more than one occasion for saying that as long as I get my football, I don't care how that happens 😔

Indeed I've said it before on this forum. But seeing your full statement 1505 is like having a mirror in front of my face. And I don't like what I see reflected back at me. I don't like it at all.

It's absolutely impossible to divorce the front and back of house when it comes to a sustainable and sound future for the club.

And surely we have to look a long way back in time to see when things were more stable, with good comradeship both within the club and outside in the community.

There are many people within the club and wider community with great fundraising ideas, but no one seems willing or able to take them forward. Hopefully that's going to change with the new regime.

It's about time we started bringing in money from the wider community, rather than trying to squeeze the fans with various begging appeals, without us ever knowing how much is raised and still less where the money went 💷👖

So I'm not going to come out with crass statements about not caring what happens back of house. I'm reformed. And I suggest you find a mirror 1505. You might not like what you see either.

On a housekeeping point, would people please refrain from using the f word, however you spell it, because many youngsters read this forum. And it also offends others. Thanks 🙂
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 05, 2025, 12:44:53 AM
Quote from: Quinn Upstone on June 04, 2025, 11:15:57 PM



On a housekeeping point, would people please refrain from using the f word, however you spell it, because many youngsters read this forum. And it also offends others. Thanks 🙂

It's Fcuk, and can be purchased on the front of T Shirts in Matalan.   :laughcry:
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Pink on June 05, 2025, 12:33:11 PM
However you choose to arrange the four letters it would be best  to not have them on this Forum. If we are moving towards a more Community based club, where young families can feel comfortable at the ground,then hopefully such language will also be discouraged among the crowd too. There is a need IMO for members of the crowd to "step up" and moderate their behaviour to achieve a welcoming atmosphere at the ground. Hopefully the penny will drop with some over time.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Quinn Upstone on June 05, 2025, 01:12:47 PM
"It's Fcuk, and can be purchased on the front of T Shirts in Matalan." 
🙄 🤣
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Linnet465 on June 05, 2025, 04:27:15 PM
 :scarf: Pink I thoroughly agree there is a group who regularly stand at the hospital end of the main stand whose language and banter at times is not suitable for younger supporters or females. All they want to do is wind up the visiting management on the bench and warming up substitute players etc.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 05, 2025, 08:53:14 PM
Quote from: Quinn Upstone on June 05, 2025, 01:12:47 PM
"It's Fcuk, and can be purchased on the front of T Shirts in Matalan." 
🙄 🤣

FCUK is a well known brand name, owed by French Connection, UK.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Quinn Upstone on June 05, 2025, 09:27:35 PM
"FCUK is a well known brand name, owed by French Connection, UK."

I know of the company, B&G. I'm not that old, you know 🙄

But I still stand by using decent language on the forum that we wouldn't mind our grandchildren reading 🙂
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Fosters Cigar on June 05, 2025, 09:43:24 PM
Blue and Gold, you should stand down as a moderator to this Forum. You should have seen that members of this forum do not like you using crude language, please refrain and apologise.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 05, 2025, 10:32:50 PM
Quote from: Fosters Cigar on June 05, 2025, 09:43:24 PM
Blue and Gold, you should stand down as a moderator to this Forum. You should have seen that members of this forum do not like you using crude language, please refrain and apologise.

OK.

I'll do it tomorrow.

😅
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 05, 2025, 10:35:12 PM
Quote from: Quinn Upstone on June 05, 2025, 09:27:35 PM


I know of the company, B&G. I'm not that old, you know 🙄


Are you sure?   :laughcry:
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 10, 2025, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: TonyM on June 04, 2025, 09:05:36 AM
Quote from: Nigel1505 on June 03, 2025, 06:34:34 PM
Is any of this rhetoric about who's in charge of this and that...who owns this and that...who is culpable about this and that...who is going to help KLFC get the ball in the opposition's net? Only young lads plus some older heads are going to do that. You can have Sir Alex and the best financial brains in the world...it won't get you promoted unless you have the raw ingredients of decent players to get you there. This is a football forum.. not a Financial Times forum... I couldn't give a ufck who's in charge as long as they have their heart in  KLFC and what the future holds for MY club.

Nigel, appreciate your view and I think it is probably a view held by the majority of attendees at the Walks on any given Saturday but... if you are not interested then can I politely suggest you just ignore these threads.  Equally there are a subsection of fans who are concerned about how the club has been run in the past (with the result that we were very, very close to liquidation again) and about how it is run in the future (and the implications this may or may not have in respect of the budget available to JR for this coming season).  It would be great if football forums could just concentrate on what happened on the field but unfortunately there are too many examples of of supporters (including KLFC) losing their clubs for finance and good governance not to be an issue.


Copy of email from Companies House that's been sent to all registered business's today.

The part that refers to PSC's should have been done a long time ago as far as the Club is concerned. I just don't understand why this 5 minute legal requirement hasn't been done.

Further enhancements to the rule being enforced from August 2025.

For those that still don't care about who owns or controls the Club, there's further explanation why they should.



"Companies House   


This is an official email from Companies House, sent to all registered email addresses. If you're a third party agent who has received this email on behalf of a company, please forward this message to the company director(s).

Identity verification.

All company directors and people with significant control (PSCs) need to verify their identity to prove who they are. This is a new legal requirement under the Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Act 2023 to help prevent people using companies for illegal purposes.

Identity verification will become mandatory in autumn 2025.

Act now and verify your identity before it becomes a requirement.

Early action will help you to avoid delays or complications. If your company has multiple officers, allow plenty of time for each one to verify their identity. Directors based outside of the UK may also need extra time if they plan to use an authorised agent, also known as an Authorised Corporate Service Provider (ACSP) to verify their identity.

If you've already verified your identity for Companies House, you do not need to do again.





How to verify your identity.

You can verify:

Online using GOV.​UK One Login – if you have the identity documents or information required

In person at selected Post Offices – you must live in the UK and will need to use the 'Verify your identity for Companies House' service first to find out if you can verify this way

Using an Authorised Corporate Service Provider (ACSP) – for example, an accountant or solicitor who has registered as a Companies House authorised agent (you'll need to provide suitable identity documents).


What happens when you verify?

Identity verification is a two-step process.

Step 1: Verify your identity and get your Companies House personal code.

This code is personal to you, not the company. Keep this information secure until you need to use it. You can view your personal code in the 'manage account' section of your Companies House account.

Step 2: From autumn 2025, link your verified identity to our records.

You'll need to provide your personal code and a verification statement for each company role you hold. We'll provide more information on how to do this in the coming months.

Read guidance on verifying your identity for Companies House

If you or any other directors do not comply with identity verification requirements on time, you will not be able to file your company's confirmation statement or other filings.

You'll also be committing an offence and there are a range of consequences, including a financial penalty and being unable to start a new company.


Check the register.

It's important to make sure we hold the correct details for each director and PSC of your company.

You will not be able to complete identity verification if the personal information on your identity documents, such as your date of birth, does not match the information held on our register.


If you or any other directors do not comply with identity verification requirements on time, you will not be able to file your company's confirmation statement or other filings.

You'll also be committing an offence and there are a range of consequences, including a financial penalty and being unable to start a new company".
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Colin Fuller on June 10, 2025, 03:39:38 PM
I see the club website has updated the Our People section, removing Mr Cleeve as chairman and showing Mr Bal Srai as Chief Executive Officer .
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 10, 2025, 03:51:21 PM
Quote from: Colin Fuller on June 10, 2025, 03:39:38 PM
I see the club website has updated the Our People section, removing Mr Cleeve as chairman and showing Mr Bal Srai as Chief Executive Officer .

Companies House is still showing Cleeve as the only Officer with no mention of Bal on there as yet.

I wonder if Cleeve knows he's no longer Chairman?   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Veratis on June 10, 2025, 04:34:44 PM
Hhmm some people seem to be making this more difficult than the reality. Statement on Club website 22nd May " Cleeve has agreed to step back from all operational matters. He has been granted the opportunity to pursue a creative commercial initiative " I don't see how you could stay as chairman without any say in operational matters and that he was aware that this title would be removed within days. Club moving forward the Cleeve days are behind us.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 10, 2025, 04:57:53 PM
Quote from: Veratis on June 10, 2025, 04:34:44 PM
I don't see how you could stay as chairman without any say in operational matters and that he was aware that this title would be removed within days. Club moving forward the Cleeve days are behind us.

Sorry, but this couldn't be more wrong. It's not unusual to have a Chairman not being involved in Operational matters.

I have no idea if Cleeve had previously been told he would lose his status as Chairman (maybe I missed that).

And I'm not saying that TSI should have left Cleeve as Chairman.

Bal has stated that in future there will be a supporter as Chairman with a 6 month tenure. In future, presumably the Club will then have Chairmen that are not involved in Operational matters.

How things are shaping up, my view is that there will only one person involved with such operational matters, and that will be Bal.


Colin mentioned that the Clubs website no longer shows Cleeve as Chairman, and now shows Bal as CEO.

Clubs website also shows this:

"Ownership

Lynn F.C. Ltd is 100% owned by Blue and Gold Holdings Ltd, company Reg No 07102863.

The shares in Blue and Gold Holdings Ltd are owned 67% by Stephen Cleeve and 33% by Polina Cleeve".

Companies House show's the same.
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Colin Fuller on June 11, 2025, 08:05:39 PM
Since my post yesterday re the club's website section Our People, it now says :This page can't be found.
Is that suspicious or just a gremlin at work? Will it show tomorrow Mr Cleeve back as chairman.....?
Title: Re: Off field?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 11, 2025, 08:48:19 PM
Quote from: Colin Fuller on June 11, 2025, 08:05:39 PM
Since my post yesterday re the club's website section Our People, it now says :This page can't be found.
Is that suspicious or just a gremlin at work? Will it show tomorrow Mr Cleeve back as chairman.....?

A couple of things you can be certain of.

Stephen Cleeve won't go quietly and he won't give up without a fight.