Emmanuel Maja from Aldershot.
https://www.kltown.co.uk/2025/07/17/news-midfielder/
I think that's 14 new players in and 8 retaining that's a squad of 22 I believe that will be it for the time being but you never know
Quote from: m a hill on July 17, 2025, 03:44:28 PM
I think that's 14 new players in and 8 retaining that's a squad of 22 I believe that will be it for the time being but you never know
Yes Malcolm. They certainly seems to be flashing the cash about, on the field and off. I thought the intention was to press the reset button. :dontknow: Doesn't look that has happened so far. In fact quite the opposite.
On the Pitch, Jo is apparently prepared to support the playing budget to ensure the team is competitive (that sounds worryingly like the Cleeve Philosophy).
Off the pitch, Marriott's Warehouse and Mem's Kitchen treat for the squad and the Hangers on won't have come cheap!
Why they needed that I don't know, especially as they now have a full time Chef for the players. Two meals a day. Good work if you can get it!
The income from the big Commercial deals won't last long at this rate. Has anyone told Bal about the cold Tuesday winters nights and what can happen to the gate numbers (although in fairness, Jo did witness that personally :laughcry:)?
Or what if we get a bad winter (been lucky on that one in recent years)? :freezing: Stash it away. Don't be tempted to spend it as soon as it comes in.
That's unless Bal has located and unlocked the £1 admission fee that was "ring fenced" by The Chairman (from memory, in an attempt to justify an increase to admission prices). Any report on that one Bal, or was the money paid by the supporters collected under false pretenses? Must be a few Grand there now!
Bal has access to the inner workings now. Maybe he'll let his stakeholders know exactly whats been going on. :dontknow:
And, just who was the anonymous Stand Sponsor?
He has obviously located the famed 💷🌳🤫
But, in all honesty, I'm also concerned about the amount of money being thrown about, seemingly without end and with no obvious new income streams to offset it against 😏
Surely expenditure of this amount looks like we're trying to "buy" promotion. And we all know how that ends 😕
More pressure on the manager and players to "produce".
And we all know what happens to clubs when the owner doesn't get what he "paid" for and goes running off across the park, jumps on the first train to Heathrow and flies off into the distance 😫
At least Jo's sidekick Bal will have the advantage of having Stephen Cleeve beside him in the Directors box to offer advice e on where he went wrong. That is if he takes advantage of his FOC Match day tickets. The old pals act is alive and well. 😉
Quote from: Mallard on July 18, 2025, 06:45:52 AM
At least Jo's sidekick Bal will have the advantage of having Stephen Cleeve beside him in the Directors box to offer advice e on where he went wrong. That is if he takes advantage of his FOC Match day tickets. The old pals act is alive and well. 😉
You been visiting NR10 for that info Mallard?
Haha I would suggest that is more likely to be found in your stat nav than mine. Now if it started with PE :laughcry:
Quote from: Mallard on July 18, 2025, 10:01:35 AM
Haha I would suggest that is more likely to be found in your stat nav than mine. Now if it started with PE :laughcry:
My car is too old to have a Sat Nav! :laughcry:
I sincerely hope Cleeve keeps all his advice and opinions to himself. In fact I'd rather he said nothing to anyone.
We'll be able to tell how much clout he still has when we hear the music played as the team comes out 😖
Quote from: Quinn Upstone on July 18, 2025, 10:05:53 AM
I sincerely hope Cleeve keeps all his advice and opinions to himself. In fact I'd rather he said nothing to anyone.
We'll be able to tell how much clout he still has when we hear the music played as the team comes out 😖
He'll always have two seats in the Directors Box.
Who needs a stat nav :laughcry: :phone:
Quote from: Quinn Upstone on July 18, 2025, 10:05:53 AM
I sincerely hope Cleeve keeps all his advice and opinions to himself. In fact I'd rather he said nothing to anyone.
We'll be able to tell how much clout he still has when we hear the music played as the team comes out 😖
It would be nice to see a change in the music.
Topical at the moment, how about Ozzy's "Paranoid"?
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on July 17, 2025, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: m a hill on July 17, 2025, 03:44:28 PM
I think that's 14 new players in and 8 retaining that's a squad of 22 I believe that will be it for the time being but you never know
Yes Malcolm. They certainly seems to be flashing the cash about, on the field and off. I thought the intention was to press the reset button. :dontknow: Doesn't look that has happened so far. In fact quite the opposite.
On the Pitch, Jo is apparently prepared to support the playing budget to ensure the team is competitive (that sounds worryingly like the Cleeve Philosophy).
Off the pitch, Marriott's Warehouse and Mem's Kitchen treat for the squad and the Hangers on won't have come cheap!
Why they needed that I don't know, especially as they now have a full time Chef for the players. Two meals a day. Good work if you can get it!
The income from the big Commercial deals won't last long at this rate. Has anyone told Bal about the cold Tuesday winters nights and what can happen to the gate numbers (although in fairness, Jo did witness that personally :laughcry:)?
Or what if we get a bad winter (been lucky on that one in recent years)? Stash it away. Don't be tempted to spend it as soon as it comes in.
That's unless Bal has located and unlocked the £1 admission fee that was "ring fenced" by The Chairman (from memory, in an attempt to justify an increase to admission prices). Any report on that one Bal, or was the money paid by the supporters collected under false pretenses? Must be a few Grand there now!
Bal has access to the inner workings now. Maybe he'll let his stakeholders know exactly whats been going on. :dontknow:
And, just who was the anonymous Stand Sponsor?
Cheer up!!!
Quote from: Paul47 on July 18, 2025, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on July 17, 2025, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: m a hill on July 17, 2025, 03:44:28 PM
I think that's 14 new players in and 8 retaining that's a squad of 22 I believe that will be it for the time being but you never know
Yes Malcolm. They certainly seems to be flashing the cash about, on the field and off. I thought the intention was to press the reset button. :dontknow: Doesn't look that has happened so far. In fact quite the opposite.
On the Pitch, Jo is apparently prepared to support the playing budget to ensure the team is competitive (that sounds worryingly like the Cleeve Philosophy).
Off the pitch, Marriott's Warehouse and Mem's Kitchen treat for the squad and the Hangers on won't have come cheap!
Why they needed that I don't know, especially as they now have a full time Chef for the players. Two meals a day. Good work if you can get it!
The income from the big Commercial deals won't last long at this rate. Has anyone told Bal about the cold Tuesday winters nights and what can happen to the gate numbers (although in fairness, Jo did witness that personally :laughcry:)?
Or what if we get a bad winter (been lucky on that one in recent years)? Stash it away. Don't be tempted to spend it as soon as it comes in.
That's unless Bal has located and unlocked the £1 admission fee that was "ring fenced" by The Chairman (from memory, in an attempt to justify an increase to admission prices). Any report on that one Bal, or was the money paid by the supporters collected under false pretenses? Must be a few Grand there now!
Bal has access to the inner workings now. Maybe he'll let his stakeholders know exactly whats been going on. :dontknow:
And, just who was the anonymous Stand Sponsor?
Cheer up!!!
I'm fine thanks. Hope you are too.
Nice to see that you are so happy these days. Being one of the Founders of the Blue and Gold Supporters Trust, you must be over the moon with all the current developments.
:scarf:
By the way, no reply about the £1 surcharge (i.e. Supporters money).
Have a word will ya?
I am just totally confused by what is going and which way the club is heading.
I can see that the club needs to be competitive this season but I'm not certain where it is meant to be heading longer term.
We hear all the talk about it being a community club and community involvement but not really sure what Jo's ambition is.
Is it to set up a self sustaining club which he can walk away from in 2-3 years?
If so then I would have thought promotion this season would be bad news with the additional costs it would bring.
I believe Bal is an interim CEO - so assume that somehow, magically and new CEO will appear from the community, what if it doesn't?
Most of the fan/community owned clubs, except Exeter City, Newport County, and AFC Wimbledon exist at our current level or below and I can't see a town of Lynn's size ever achieving more than that unless we continue with the wealthy owner model, which we have learnt from experience may not work.
I believe the Trust members have been asked to vote on the Trust's involvement with the club, with a very short deadline to make a decision, although I'm not sure why there is such urgency.
If you have a part ownership of something, then I can understand that you inherit a part of the debt. Given the state of the club, is this a good time?
Quote from: Nemesis on July 18, 2025, 03:17:36 PM
I am just totally confused by what is going and which way the club is heading.
I can see that the club needs to be competitive this season but I'm not certain where it is meant to be heading longer term.
We hear all the talk about it being a community club and community involvement but not really sure what Jo's ambition is.
Is it to set up a self sustaining club which he can walk away from in 2-3 years?
If so then I would have thought promotion this season would be bad news with the additional costs it would bring.
I believe Bal is an interim CEO - so assume that somehow, magically and new CEO will appear from the community, what if it doesn't?
Most of the fan/community owned clubs, except Exeter City, Newport County, and AFC Wimbledon exist at our current level or below and I can't see a town of Lynn's size ever achieving more than that unless we continue with the wealthy owner model, which we have learnt from experience may not work.
I believe the Trust members have been asked to vote on the Trust's involvement with the club, with a very short deadline to make a decision, although I'm not sure why there is such urgency.
If you have a part ownership of something, then I can understand that you inherit a part of the debt. Given the state of the club, is this a good time?
Not for me. Not enough info given to accept the offer at this time.
Quote from: MARCUS ROSE on July 18, 2025, 03:28:59 PM
Quote from: Nemesis on July 18, 2025, 03:17:36 PM
I am just totally confused by what is going and which way the club is heading.
I can see that the club needs to be competitive this season but I'm not certain where it is meant to be heading longer term.
We hear all the talk about it being a community club and community involvement but not really sure what Jo's ambition is.
Is it to set up a self sustaining club which he can walk away from in 2-3 years?
If so then I would have thought promotion this season would be bad news with the additional costs it would bring.
I believe Bal is an interim CEO - so assume that somehow, magically and new CEO will appear from the community, what if it doesn't?
Most of the fan/community owned clubs, except Exeter City, Newport County, and AFC Wimbledon exist at our current level or below and I can't see a town of Lynn's size ever achieving more than that unless we continue with the wealthy owner model, which we have learnt from experience may not work.
I believe the Trust members have been asked to vote on the Trust's involvement with the club, with a very short deadline to make a decision, although I'm not sure why there is such urgency.
If you have a part ownership of something, then I can understand that you inherit a part of the debt. Given the state of the club, is this a good time?
Not for me. Not enough info given to accept the offer at this time.
Simply put, this is my view of things. People will make their own decisions.
I would guess that many new members will vote yes as the majority of them will only be interested in seeing the Club getting the Trust's money. Presumably enough time has now been allowed to elapse so that these new members are all eligible to vote. You can work that one out yourselves.
For those that believe that The Trust should be involved with a meaningful and workable share of the Club, I guess most will see that this deal doesn't cover that, so will probably vote no.
Its notable that the Trust Committee haven't (as far as I can see) recommended acceptance of this deal to its members, so purely as a guess, I would assume they are not particularly pleased with the deal themselves.
Remember that things could still go Pear shaped at anytime as we will yet again be at the mercy of one person and his finances (and this proposed deal has been offered by an Employee of TSI, not the Owner). If the Trust money goes to the Club now, love it or loathe it, the Trust will almost certainly not be in a position to throw the Club a lifeline if anything adverse should happen. Once the money has gone, its gone. We are being asked to put faith in a model that has continually failed. The Club has already said that it intends to put more money in to make the team competitive. All sounds very nice but surely that just means that yet again, the Club will be spending beyond its means. Jo is not "giving" this money to the Club, it will be going in as loan money therefore increasing the debt. HE WILL WANT IT BACK!
Apparently Bal has also asked that the DCMS loan be decreased. If that's the case, he is basically asking you the taxpayer to foot the bill for the Clubs excess's. Its worth remembering that the debt got bigger due to what some would see as recklessness as it was Jo that enabled the Chairman to spend so much money. Lots of, if not the majority of the debt happened on Jo's watch, and when he was involved! So this does appear to be rather ironic.
As I said, IF TSI and Bal got their way on this, its you the taxpayer that are being asked to pay for any reduction in the DCMS loan (although I can't see that happening myself), and I can't really see how a Community organisation such as the Trust can back this deal when this kind of thinking is employed by TSI and its Employed Representative. You can't be Community based and Community minded if you are expecting others to pick up the mess caused by your own Company (irrespective who was in charge at the time). Its the Club's debt, and the Club should pay it back. That's simple common sense in my book. Even if/when DCMS say no, TSI have set their Stall out now. We now know what they are about and their thinking, and that kind of thinking is not for me.
If I have any of the above facts wrong I apologise, but with the lack of information put forward when we were asked to vote, I believe these to be valid points that need to be raised.
I'd love to see Supporters involved at their Club. I don't believe now is the time, the deal is the correct deal, or that we know enough about TSI's plans to make them acceptable at this moment in time, or that TSI are the kind of Company that the Trust should be in business with without a lot more information being provided to its members.
B and G have you ever read the Trusts objectives on the home page seems to me they are doing there best to achieve them. What would you expect them to do in the current situation and when would you like them to be involved in the Club as easy to say you would like this to be achieved but no suggestions as to how.
Quote from: Veratis on July 18, 2025, 05:11:41 PM
B and G have you ever read the Trusts objectives on the home page seems to me they are doing there best to achieve them. What would you expect them to do in the current situation and when would you like them to be involved in the Club as easy to say you would like this to be achieved but no suggestions as to how.
Where did I say the Trust are not trying their best to achieve their objectives? I'm sure they are. That doesn't mean they have to accept this deal. It's not them offering this deal. It's TSI. The Trust committee are just putting it to their members (without recommending acceptance).
Obviously I'd like the supporters to be involved as soon as they can so they can make a meaningful and worthwhile contribution. That won't happen with this deal. My opinion is that Bal is treating the Trust as nothing more than a Supporters Club.
One for you. How would acceptance of this deal help the Trust achieve their objectives?
I was expecting another open meeting where not only the pros and cons could be discussed, but also what action the Trust and TSI would take should the majority not accept the proposal.
Quote from: kltid on July 18, 2025, 06:18:06 PM
I was expecting another open meeting where not only the pros and cons could be discussed, but also what action the Trust and TSI would take should the majority not accept the proposal.
I don't think the Club will be bothered if the deal is rejected.
In reality, I believe the takeover deal will go ahead with or without the Trust.
To the Club, I doubt very much that it's a deal breaker.
I don't see that the % offered or the money required for that % is that interesting for either party. Hardly earth shattering is it. Doesn't really do much for either party.
I don't understand this continuing attempt to get this DCMS loan written off. I presume Bal has given it his best shot and been rejected so what makes him think a fresh approach will be differently received. Maybe he's going to threaten tariffs 😂
Quote from: Mallard on July 18, 2025, 06:57:26 PM
I don't see that the % offered or the money required for that % is that interesting for either party. Hardly earth shattering is it. Doesn't really do much for either party.
I don't understand this continuing attempt to get this DCMS loan written off. I presume Bal has given it his best shot and been rejected so what makes him think a fresh approach will be differently received. Maybe he's going to threaten tariffs 😂
Maybe he should offer free membership to a dating app!
:laughcry:
:welcome: Why can't people use the correct heading to discuss KL and Trust status. This started about a new signing , no further details about him after going through the various inputs find it exasperating that the old discussion come up again and no more info relevant to the heading.
I understand the dilemma being played out between the club and the trust but can't it come under an appropriate heading
Quote from: Linnet465 on July 19, 2025, 11:47:19 AM
:welcome: Why can't people use the correct heading to discuss KL and Trust status. This started about a new signing , no further details about him after going through the various inputs find it exasperating that the old discussion come up again and no more info relevant to the heading.
I understand the dilemma being played out between the club and the trust but can't it come under an appropriate heading
465. Fully understand your comments, and a subject that has been mentioned before.
The simple answer is that posts evolve, just the same as conversations do on the Terraces or elsewhere in life.
If you were chatting to your mate at the ground at the start of a game, the chances are the subject would have changed/evolved by the end of the game. It would be a fairly mind numbing conversation if it didn't.
Personally I can't see anything wrong with it but as I said, I fully understand your comments on the matter.
It seems to me that whatever the thread starts off discussing it gets hijacked by the same people to the subject they want to continually harp on about. Totally agree if you want to keep banging on about the new ownership or the trust then start a new thread. Its becoming boring and if you started the thread with ownership or trust a lot of people wouldnt bother to read the same misinformation .
Quote from: Veratis on July 19, 2025, 01:51:32 PM
It seems to me that whatever the thread starts off discussing it gets hijacked by the same people to the subject they want to continually harp on about. Totally agree if you want to keep banging on about the new ownership or the trust then start a new thread. Its becoming boring and if you started the thread with ownership or trust a lot of people wouldnt bother to read the same misinformation .
O dear!
Or maybe try not telling people what they should do? :dontknow:
It's obviously the way people that use the forum want it, or they wouldn't use it in this manner.
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on July 18, 2025, 06:07:43 PM
One for you. How would acceptance of this deal help the Trust achieve their objectives?
Still awaiting a reply on this one?
Quote from: Veratis on July 19, 2025, 01:51:32 PM
It seems to me that whatever the thread starts off discussing it gets hijacked by the same people to the subject they want to continually harp on about. Totally agree if you want to keep banging on about the new ownership or the trust then start a new thread. Its becoming boring and if you started the thread with ownership or trust a lot of people wouldnt bother to read the same misinformation .
Excellent post. Hard for some to talk about on the pitch, as they don't/won't go to games so have to keep posting the same old.......
Quote from: Paul47 on July 19, 2025, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: Veratis on July 19, 2025, 01:51:32 PM
It seems to me that whatever the thread starts off discussing it gets hijacked by the same people to the subject they want to continually harp on about. Totally agree if you want to keep banging on about the new ownership or the trust then start a new thread. Its becoming boring and if you started the thread with ownership or trust a lot of people wouldnt bother to read the same misinformation .
Excellent post. Hard for some to talk about on the pitch, as they don't/won't go to games so have to keep posting the same old.......
And of course there's some that only come on here to :stir:
:thanks:
Paul
As you said on another post the fayre that was offered last season wasn't great. So really you cant blame people for refusing to pay over the odds for the turgid stuff served up last season.. I was certainly one in that camp so my car load only did a few games last season.
Read your post about the football Rowe is putting out there and it is sounding like a totally different style. So I'm sure a lot of people will be returning to give it a look.
I know you were a big supporters of the previous owner when and what changed your mind ? I guess a lot of people got there before you.
I have no issue with Mr Cleeve, still maintain he done some good things and wish him well for his future endeavours. Some were against him for the start but that's life.
As to last season football wasn't great but got results and we made the play offs. Guess it depends if you see football (or any sport) as it is....which is all about the results.
Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on July 19, 2025, 04:35:47 PM
Quote from: Paul47 on July 19, 2025, 04:28:36 PM
Quote from: Veratis on July 19, 2025, 01:51:32 PM
It seems to me that whatever the thread starts off discussing it gets hijacked by the same people to the subject they want to continually harp on about. Totally agree if you want to keep banging on about the new ownership or the trust then start a new thread. Its becoming boring and if you started the thread with ownership or trust a lot of people wouldnt bother to read the same misinformation .
Excellent post. Hard for some to talk about on the pitch, as they don't/won't go to games so have to keep posting the same old.......
And of course there's some that only come on here to :stir:
:thanks:
Excellent post
Quote from: Paul47 on July 19, 2025, 04:54:33 PM
I have no issue with Mr Cleeve, still maintain he done some good things and wish him well for his future endeavours. Some were against him for the start but that's life.
As to last season football wasn't great but got results and we made the play offs. Guess it depends if you see football (or any sport) as it is....which is all about the results.
I would respectfully suggest those that had doubts over SC when he came in might well have got it right. You only have to take a look at the balance sheet to see his legacy. He certainly managed to alienate a lot of people.
I guess people have their own reasons for watching the game. Last season definitely wasn't for me.