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Title: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: Backie9 on February 23, 2016, 08:51:35 AM
Saturday we made the one of longest journeys of the season to Wivenhoe and a team that had played 23 games, winning 20 and drawing 2, it was always going to be a very tough test for us but we went into the game with no fear and pressure, unfortunately we went behind early on in the game but we had a reshuffle of formation in the game and to be honest this was a master stroke by my assistant Curly, we then dominated big periods of the match and they couldn’t handle our front three of Gillies, Frohawk and Tansley. We soon equalised when Jack Frohawk held the ball up and passed for Craig Gillies to smash home the equaliser from just inside the box. Half time was much of the same and unlikely goal scorer Simon Bird put ahead with a shot from outside the box which went through the goalkeepers hands. In the last 5 minutes we could have made it 3-1 and the game would have been put to bed but Frohawks shot smashed off the crossbar. Wivenhoe then dominated in the last few minutes and a lack of concentration saw their striker nip in behind us from a corner and make it 2-2 and to keep their unbeaten record. To be honest after the game we all felt a bit deflated as we really deserved the three points but was a nice touch by the Wivenhoe fans when they clapped us off the pitch for our performance. Looking back it was really one of our best performances of the season and I couldn’t pick a man of match as all the lads put in a massive shift.
Hopefully we can get three points this evening and put the pressure back on Ely and Great Yarmouth who are definitely looking over their shoulders.

Pearson, Daw, Bird, Spittlehouse, Mcleish, White, Clunan A, Stannard, Frohawk, Gillies, Tansley.
Subs Used Setchell, Shipp, Mcquaid
Unused Gibson, Steward


Backie
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: rod on February 23, 2016, 12:03:40 PM
Thanks Backie.................A fantastic performance by the whole team and had there be any doubt it has illustrated that we can compete with the best in this league and have nothing to fear?
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: Mallard on February 24, 2016, 08:42:25 AM
Seemed a rather strong team that Backie put out last night against 3rd bottom Downham.  Was it a case of a lot of the normal Reserve team players were unavailable ?  Cannot see what was to be gained by playing Street, Edge, Hilliard,Mulready, Zielonka last night. Was There a 2nd keeper on the bench ?
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: GrahamB on February 24, 2016, 09:07:40 AM
I think they played last night in order to be eligible to play next week as "a reserve player" against Dereham
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: Mallard on February 24, 2016, 10:29:17 AM
I see GB.  Is the idea to get the Reserves through to the final  by loading up in semi against Dereham and then letting the youngsters test themselves at Carrow Road against step 5 Norwich Utd/Gorleston ?
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: tazzywazz on February 24, 2016, 11:22:59 AM
Most of the 1st team players who played last night also played against Wroxham, with the exception of Pedro all the others are squad players and its a chance for them to get a game. I also think this is another step in the right direction for the club where although Setch didn't want to enter the 1st team in the competition the club still want to do well and this seems a good way  of doing it. Pearson was on the bench. We also have Matty Castellan qualified to play. The back four also had Spits and Simon Bird rested with Whitey and Tom Mcleish playing centre back and Tom was captain. Exciting times for me.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on February 24, 2016, 11:37:57 AM
Is Jack Frohawk injured?
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: GrahamB on February 24, 2016, 11:51:08 AM
Totally agree Tazz , use whatever means necessary to bring success could be a great night out at Carrow Road
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: Mallard on February 24, 2016, 11:58:18 AM
Tazzy, did the half a dozen first squad members need to play last night to qualify to play in the next round of the Norfolk Senior Cup, as Graham B is suggesting or had they already pre-qualified ?

Be good to see the young ones run out at Carrow Road, as for some they might not get that opportunity again.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: GrahamB on February 24, 2016, 12:01:20 PM
I think by the sounds of it they are already qualified , probably last night was a game for everyone to gel and to rest others.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: tazzywazz on February 24, 2016, 04:29:31 PM
I think they had to have played twice to qualify which accounts for some, also a game was given to Liam Fryatt and Dylan Edge who get little game time with the 1st team and both are youngsters, Dylan one of the youngest to play for the reserves let alone the 1st team. I do not know why Jack Frohawk was not in the squad but with so many forwards from the 1st team there wasn't any places available even having one playing left back. I don't know wether the reserve players were disappointed at not getting selected but I am sure that Setch and Backie picked the team for the good of the club and I totally agree with their selections. If we get past Dereham I think that a several of the 1st teamers playing last night will be in the squad. Looking back to what has happened in the past this integration of the teams should be applauded. It is terrific that Pedro WANTS to play in this team, although he is still young he is a very senior player at the club, he works hard with Luke Pearson and any other reserve keeper in the squad. Exciting times.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: rod on February 25, 2016, 11:14:02 AM
Whilst I can why the club would like to win the NSC. As a decision was made from the outset to field a predominantly reserve team, I do feel very sorry for those that had been 'regulars' having to make way against Downham to accomodate a number of first team squad players............I wonder how they feel about it?
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: tazzywazz on February 25, 2016, 12:47:20 PM
I am sure some will be disappointed' and its good if they are, but hopefully they accept this is what the managers have decided is best for the club. If you look at the list of players who have made appearances for the Reserves we could field three teams, several have left and while in the past we have had a settled team this season Backie has switched the team round almost every game and we cannot argue with the results. If we keep the winning run going we will be fourth at least which is the highest we have been. Backie has also given several of the Youth team match time and obviously some of our regulars dip out, I haven't heard them moaning. It's the new set up where Setch and Backie are trying to fast track any youngsters that may be good enough for the first team, with two obvious success's in  Liam and Dylan. We have also seen some of the Reserves play for the first team and been offered money and turned it down because they are so happy to be playing for their local team and that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: Mallard on February 25, 2016, 01:27:45 PM
Tazzy for someone you didn't want anywhere near the Club, it would appear the new 'Tinkerman'  has done a fine job.    Lets hope he can keep all of this years squad at the Club and some are not tempted away or leave for whatever reason. 
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: robbo84 on February 25, 2016, 02:26:42 PM
With the First team right in the thick of a play-off battle now and no midweek game prior to Saturday's important game at Leamington, I would imagine it's done some players no harm at all to play in a midweek game for the Reserves.

Toby for one had been expressing his frustrations about not being able to play with his injury whilst Sam had gone a few games without a goal. It's got minutes into both of them and probably done their confidence no harm.

I admit it is probably a little frustrating for some of the Reserve players but if we are going to have more integration between the teams at the club then this is something that can be made to work both ways.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: tazzywazz on February 25, 2016, 02:40:28 PM
I have said several times Mallard that we all make mistakes and I hold my hands up but Robbie knew my opinion then and knows my opinion now, which is more important. I have spoken to Setch several times and told him what a fantastic job Robbie is doing, both for the Reserves and the club. He has been a breath of fresh air, would the likes of Whitey, Spits and Tom Mcleish still be here if they thought the team was not being run right, I don't think so. Tom has been captain, played at centre half, with a lot of youngsters in the team and has absolutely loved it, and we lost. The effort of the whole team was 100% and they totally dominated the game but couldn't score and conceded in the last few minutes.
I think a lot of the people who are critical of the Norfolk Cup selections need to speak to the players before making assumptions about how they feel. Also some of the teams in the Reserves league pay their players significant £ notes, our Reserves don't receive a penny, ask them about that as well, I am sure they would say they are very happy playing for King's Lynn Town. Exciting times.
I totally agree robbo, it is plainly obvious to anybody that the club is being run how a club should be run, on the playing side. It is now Setch's policy that injured or suspended players who miss a few games have a run out with the reserves, as recently with Muller. I think you will also find that unlike the past those 1st team players put in a proper shift when they do play for the Reserves. Seeing Pedro turning out with the Reserves is another big plus for the Reserve players. Exciting times.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: Mallard on February 25, 2016, 03:09:42 PM
Tazzy, it matters little what the fans think about team selection or most things to do with the club. Setch is the main man running things from top to bottom on the playing side of things, and so it should be.  However you cannot expect fans not to be a little surprised that a Reserve team fixture at home to a bottom 3 side  is loaded up with 6 first team squad members.  I don't think anyone is coming from anywhere other than the angle of 'surprise'.

Also Setch's total policy of players returning from injury should be commended with all players being given a run out in the Reserves before being selected back into the first team squad.   The only players out at the moment through Injury and/or suspension are Bridges and Stevo.  As Stevo has only missed one game I would assume that he would be straight back in the first team squad and with Bridges having missed a good few games with injury will come back via the Reserves.

Takes a big man to admit his mistakes Tazzy, but I did think you were somewhat harsh on Backie, and it is good you have feel you should  to eat humble pie on that one.  The guy had done well at previous clubs, was also an Ex Linnets, so had a good working knowledge of the Club. So for many people ( Setch included it would seem) he was the perfect fit.  Next time maybe give someone a chance to prove themselves before jumping all over them.

As For Money Tazzy, there are clubs playing at a lot lower level than Step 6 who are paying out decent Money.  hasn't this always been the case.

As The Reserves wont have any promotion to celebrate, come what may at the end of the season.  I really hope they get a run out at Carrow Road in the NSC final.  Would be a an excellent end to what has been an excellent season for them.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: rod on February 25, 2016, 03:22:26 PM
I am not arguing against the principle of giving squad players much needed game time it is just a matter of degrees - numbers IMO.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: tazzywazz on February 25, 2016, 03:37:10 PM
I think Stevo and Bridges are probably special cases  and for them a run out with the Reserves may not on the cards. Bridges has been in and out of the side and expected that to be the case this season and Stevo is unlikely to be out of the team for long and is obviously a key player and Setch will want him back in the side asap.
As for me and Backie I think you will find that we get on very well these days and my original comments were based on me having watched Dersingham several times and been totally unimpressed, also I was concerned that he may have wanted to bring certain players with, fortunately he didn't. I won't say what he has said about his previous managerial experiences but I will say he will tell you he has NEVER enjoyed his football more than he is now, and he wants to be at the club as long as possible.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: rod on February 25, 2016, 07:14:31 PM
I think everyone connected with the reserves, not least the regular supporters are all doing a great job!!
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: sworn 2 secrets on February 28, 2016, 10:34:57 AM
Thanks to Backie his team on and off the pitch, the reserves have become the real hub at the club the go between for all 3 teams TAZ what a credit to the set up this has developed into why change this at all? working well as is
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: Mallard on February 28, 2016, 06:17:52 PM
Why shouldn't the Club want the Reserves back in the fold. Setch is smart enough to see they are doing something very right, what's not to want ?
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: Nemesis on February 28, 2016, 09:15:44 PM
Depends what happens to any money the reserves make now and in the future . . .
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: tazzywazz on February 28, 2016, 10:45:04 PM
I have little doubt that the Reserves will be back as part of the club next season, it is what Setch wants. I believe the Reserve committee will still be playing a part but not on the financial side, again I know that this is what Setch and particularly Backie wants. We should be having a meeting in the near future when I hope things will be finalised. It is what the committee has always wanted but in the past we seemed not to be part of the club. As some have suggested with the U18's, something we have pushed for for some time, the Reserves are now crucial to the future of the club. Setch deserves great credit for making this happen, he promised me before Christmas 2014 that he was going to start the U18's this season and oversee it himself, he has  been true to his word and done a fantastic job.
With all three teams as pert of the club we will go from strength to strength. How many supporters thought we would be where we are now at the beginning of the season?
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: Mallard on February 29, 2016, 08:18:52 AM
Tazz, when you say a meeting to finalise things, does this mean it is not cast in stone ?  Or Is it more to decide on the structure going forward and what to do with any assets that The Reserve committee might have to pass on ?
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: tazzywazz on February 29, 2016, 08:50:57 AM
A couple of leading questions there Mallard. We have already had meetings with Setch and he has told us that the Reserves  will be a fully integrated part of the club next season. We have asked for another meeting to find out what he wants us to do and wether we can fit into his plans. Backie is very keen that we carry on and Setch wants that as well. People should realise that the committee has always wanted the Reserves to be part of the club and the introduction of the U18's has made it essential. As for the financial side of things that will have to stay a private matter between us and the club, as you would expect at any club. Playing budgets, running costs etc. are never made public.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: Mallard on February 29, 2016, 09:19:33 AM
Sorry Tazzy If the felt the questions were rather leading, that certainly was not the intention. It was just when you said about finalising matters.   Also When I mentioned assets I meant more equipment etc as I understood that the Reserves was very much a hand to mouth effort and that there wouldn't be vast sums of money  swilling around in the coffers.  Sorry for the confusion on that one. 
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: tazzywazz on February 29, 2016, 09:52:15 AM
That's ok Mallard. Gordon Chilvers has provided us with all the kit we have needed since we took over so that has never been a problem. In fact because he was really on the ball in 2014-15 we had a new Joma kit that was much better than the 1st team. This was because all the badges and numbers were part of the material and not stuck on. Thanks to Gordon, our supporters, sponsors and the Discovery Centre we have not done bad with money. As I say sponsors and supporters and the fact the lads have been very successful on the pitch, four championships in a row, from UCL Reserve League div 2 to the Thurlow Nunn, and 5th in the Thurlow Nunn last season, have seen our home gates continuing to rise, average for this season so far, 134.
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: sworn 2 secrets on February 29, 2016, 05:23:59 PM
Taz often made comments re the reserve set up cant sing your praises enough along with all the people that has made the middle team so vital!
Title: Re: Wivenhoe Town 2 Kings Lynn Town Res 2
Post by: tazzywazz on February 29, 2016, 10:54:51 PM
Thanks for that Sworn, It was the right thing to do at the time and we have a few less men than we had then but with our sponsors, particularly Gordon and Kev Chase, and of course our management team of Backie and Curly, and our supporters, it's not difficult just time consuming. Another person who deserves the most praise, and he probably won't thank me, is Andy Mcleish. We have both been in from the beginning but Andy writes and prints the programme and although I act as banker he does the accounts, and either Andy or Len Candlish do the sandwiches. Andy is the only parent left, my grandson left 2/3 years ago. I believe there are going to be some really important announcements before season end which will move the club forward a long way. I just hope the supporters will keep coming back in more numbers, Setch the management team and players deserve it. Very exciting times