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Title: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: dillydilly on July 12, 2019, 04:54:12 PM
Just been on the non-league site and am slightly concerned thT virtually all of our approaching opponents are.testing their calibre against League clubs.  I hope that doesnít show they are more ambitious than us - in their recruitment, perhaps....  And how is our turnstile improvement going - havenít seen a mention ....
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 12, 2019, 05:05:07 PM
Just been on the non-league site and am slightly concerned thT virtually all of our approaching opponents are.testing their calibre against League clubs.  I hope that doesnít show they are more ambitious than us - in their recruitment, perhaps....  And how is our turnstile improvement going - havenít seen a mention ....

Not heard anything about Turnstiles, but been told that some work has been done on Press box.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: dillydilly on July 12, 2019, 05:19:13 PM
Thanks B & G, but donít want turnstiles to be our new toilet block, we have been told !.....
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Mallard on July 12, 2019, 07:04:31 PM
What date do the 6 entry points to the Ground  plus the Male and females toilets all have to be installed by ? Is it the first home game ?  If so thatís around 4 weeks
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Ap on July 12, 2019, 07:50:59 PM
Presumably (having done no research whatsoever) we get one season's grace or its demotion once again?
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Mallard on July 12, 2019, 08:07:22 PM
Iím sure there would be no chance of any form of demotion for this coming season.  Fixtures are all
Out, so anything like would cause chaos. So maybe itís March 31st 2020.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 12, 2019, 08:36:13 PM
Presumably (having done no research whatsoever) we get one season's grace or its demotion once again?

My understanding is that some of the work has to be completed before the start of the season, and some by the end of March.

 :dontknow:
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Mallard on July 12, 2019, 09:01:18 PM
Well letís hope that all the immediate requirements are being carried out. If we fall behind can only see it only being a fine.  Any changes to League structure at this late date would be crazy
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Grissles Oleary on July 12, 2019, 11:23:15 PM
Well the Truest money is there to make a start. :cheers:
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Mark A Hearle on July 13, 2019, 10:03:21 AM
To clarify the ground works etc.

We will not be relegated, have points deducted or given a fine if works are not complete by the first game of the season. The club has until the end of March 2020 to complete ALL work that has to be done. Work to the dugouts and press box have already been completed to fall in line with regulations. The club and trust are jointly funding the segregation work that involves fencing, toilets, catering point and turnstiles which is on going. Plans and consultation have to take place with various authorities locally and nationally to ensure the work is being carried out to the correct specifications. The plans have been lodged with the correct parties and once the intent is seen by the league etc you are given time to complete the work. If no intent is seen then the trouble begins. Hope this is of help to you all.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: dillydilly on July 13, 2019, 10:10:48 AM
Thanks for the update, Mark Hearle....
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: jesuslinnet on July 13, 2019, 10:58:04 AM
Thank you for the update Mark.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 13, 2019, 05:19:14 PM
 :clap:
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Mallard on July 13, 2019, 05:49:43 PM
Thankfully nothing to worry about then. 8/9 months to get it done. No panic

Cheers Mark,  thanks for clearing that up.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Keyr1 on July 13, 2019, 06:32:18 PM
Thank you Mark,

Does this mean we can expect the corner bar to again become in use/ as a hub for either the loo's or an outlet for away fans?

Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Mallard on July 13, 2019, 06:36:42 PM
Mark is that correct the Trust are jointly funding all of the work you mention ?  I was on the understanding it was the turnstiles they were assisting with through their GDF.  However I stand to be corrected.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 16, 2019, 12:14:21 PM
Mark is that correct the Trust are jointly funding all of the work you mention ?  I was on the understanding it was the turnstiles they were assisting with through their GDF.  However I stand to be corrected.

As far as I am aware, at the moment the Trust are only involved in raising funds for the new turnstiles, via their GDF. I don't think they are involved with anything else at the present time. As you Mallard, I stand to be corrected on this.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: TonyM on July 16, 2019, 01:54:00 PM
Mark is that correct the Trust are jointly funding all of the work you mention ?  I was on the understanding it was the turnstiles they were assisting with through their GDF.  However I stand to be corrected.

My reading of the term jointly was slightly different - effectively the B&G Trust's GDF is 'contributing towards' the works, be that the turnstiles or the project as a whole it doesn't really matter.  Jointly also shouldn't imply equal shares, the GDF is a chance for each and everyone of us to help out as much as we can (the money is ring fenced so can only go to one place, more details here https://www.thelinnets.co.uk/gdf.php) but at the end of the day the club is ultimately responsible for ensuring all of the work is completed within the FA's timescale.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2019, 02:49:12 PM
Tony I guess people read things differently.  For clarification, as I understand it the GDF of The Trust is paying to have the turnstiles installed with the Club finding the rest.

Having said that maybe that arrangement has been changed.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: TonyM on July 16, 2019, 05:59:20 PM
Tony I guess people read things differently.  For clarification, as I understand it the GDF of The Trust is paying to have the turnstiles installed with the Club finding the rest.

Having said that maybe that arrangement has been changed.

From the post in May by the B&G Trust
"The cost of a double turnstile unit is £6,700 plus VAT, plus the costs of installation such as a suitable hard-standing and connection to a mains electricity supply.  It was agreed that the GDF would be used towards the purchase of these turnstiles...  It would be fantastic if this total could be increased  in order to further subsidise the cost of the turnstiles.  To find out more on the GDF and how to donate, click on the thermometer on the home page"

Currently the fund stands at just over £4K so still some way to go if the Trust is going to fund the full cost of the turnstiles but would be a great effort if they could manage to get there.  Presumably at some point the club will look to purchase these turnstiles and have them fitted, at which time the Trust will close down the GDF and transfer whatever has been raised to the club, so there is still time for people to add to the fund.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: dillydilly on July 16, 2019, 07:33:51 PM
Impressed by the Trustís efforts on the GDF/Turnstiles front, but always fascinated by the lack of progress we have made over the decades.  How, for example, have Stamford funded the very decent covered terrace they have behind one of their goals ?.....  equally how is their ground choc-a-bloc with advertising signs all around the ground ?....both as demonstrated on the KLTV video of the first friendly game.   Maybe the two are linked ?  Hopefully our attendances will give us a real boost to finances in this new division that we have deservedly reached.  BRING A FRIEND, OR TWO/ THREE !....  Our most difficult but best chance of real progress for donkeyís years awaits !!
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Mark A Hearle on July 17, 2019, 08:51:01 AM
I maybe should have worded my initial post a little better but Tony's post has hopefully made the situation clear.

I agree that Stamford is a well appointed stadium. I would guess that maybe a lot of the work was funded when they sold their old ground for, I would suspect, a hefty price a few years back. My understanding is that some new perimeter advertising has been sold at The Walks for the new season along with many renewals of existing ones.     
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Mallard on July 17, 2019, 10:32:39 AM
Thanks for clearing that up Mark.

Stamfordís New ground does look impressive.   Seems the in-vogue thing to do, move grounds.   Boston Utd will see their last season at York Street before they move out of the Town to Wyberton on the A16.   Sad to see these old traditional grounds turned into housing.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: dillydilly on July 17, 2019, 05:01:43 PM
Thanks Mark, and agree with Mallard that the loss of old grounds is sad to see.  Boston United built their stadium to league level and surely it will be a loss....
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Owldtup on July 18, 2019, 08:08:14 PM
Hi all, would just think it ought to have been pointed out that Stamford's new ground is in collaboration with Stamford New College to also establish the Borderville Sports centre on land provided by the Burghley Estate. So they had a lot of assistance financially and organisational.


Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: westlynnmike on July 19, 2019, 09:42:54 AM
Thanks for clearing that up Mark.

Stamfordís New ground does look impressive.   Seems the in-vogue thing to do, move grounds.   Boston Utd will see their last season at York Street before they move out of the Town to Wyberton on the A16.   Sad to see these old traditional grounds turned into housing.

Several Teams have made the move - classically St. Johnstone out of Perth centre to the outskirts into a purpose built 10,000 seat stadium. This was done by exchanging their in-town site with a national supermarket chain (not sure which one). back in the 80's.
Title: Re: THINKING BIGGER
Post by: Mallard on July 19, 2019, 10:45:18 AM
Mike there are loads of clubs trading in a prime site in a Town for a ground more out of the way.  I remember the old Grantham ground ( supermarket there).  Now look at the soulless place they play at now, surrounded by an running track.

It donít always work out, look what happened with Rushden & Diamonds and their move to Nene Park.