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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Paddygray on February 29, 2016, 07:16:32 AM

Title: Sam G
Post by: Paddygray on February 29, 2016, 07:16:32 AM
It would be interesting to hear some views on here about the reintroduction of Sam G, and also his new role in the team. He seems to have divided opinions around the walks on match day. He has appeared to be out of shape for the best part of the season, but his advocates would point to his ability to read a game as compensation. He came on last week and although he looked slimmer, he also looked like he could fall over every time he ran but then 'BAM' he helped to turn the game within five minutes. Then there was his valuable goal against Leamington. My personal opinion is a positive one. We know have 4 very good centre-halves to pick and an experienced player in Sam G who we will see come good.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: Mallard on February 29, 2016, 08:16:50 AM
No Doubt Sam is a class act.  Although not blessed with great pace, you are right he can read a game so well.  However Sam did have a bit of extra timber this season, and Its a not jus the body that slows up when you are carrying a bit of that extra spot of timber. 

All credit to Sam, he was  dropped to the bench but didn't throw a sulk, he got down to some hard graft to get back to somewhere close to where he has been in the past. 

In Some way a bit like Jack Defty, always carrying  a bit, Not the quickest, but gave his all for the Club.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: robbo84 on February 29, 2016, 09:42:28 AM
I don't think anybody can doubt Sam's commitment this season.

As Mallard says, he hasn't sulked about being dropped. Quite the opposite in fact. He has continued to help the team and youngsters with their development, and our current run has made it extra difficult for him to force his way back into the side.

He's demonstrated in the 'Bunting role' that he is still a leader on the pitch. We can make the most of his defensive capabilities there whilst he has demonstrated recent attacking credentials in recent weeks. He started the move that led to Stevo's goal on the counter at Dunstable, helped turn the game against Bedworth and weighed in with a goal of his own on Saturday.

Our younger players are in good hands with experienced players like Sam, Bridges and Stevenson to learn from.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: rod on February 29, 2016, 11:42:01 AM
Excellent reader of a game and can pick a pass, Sam with all his experience brings composure and experience to the team in the 'Bunting role'. I much prefer him there rather than in central defence.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: Frontman on February 29, 2016, 12:45:12 PM
Ever since Sam was at Norwich as Under 11 he was not quick enough, wrong shape, overweight! Released at 15 yrs old (not bg enough for centre half; couldn't get up and down at full back) and Tommy Taylor played him at 16 yrs old in midfield. Peterborough given contract by Ferguson at 19yrs old; dumped by Fry and then skippered Lowestoft for 2 years.
Has always looked unlikely shape (more pace than his gait suggests) but immense ability to read game and as with many players may have suffered loss of form earlier in season!!  Is an outstanding Lad at this level!!!
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: Mallard on February 29, 2016, 01:20:43 PM
How many Years did Sam have at Lowestoft ?   Always good when a local boy comes back to play for his Local club
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: Frontman on March 01, 2016, 05:52:52 PM
5 seasons with Lowestoft after 3 years Peterborough; the last on Contract!!  Ferguson sacked and honest Barry Fry dumped him!!
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: Mallard on March 01, 2016, 08:11:45 PM
That was the first time Young Fergie left, wasn't that for non Football reasons.?  Fry has made a few quid for Posh as well. Made good money on the likes of Taylor, Mackell Smith and recently the lad Washington
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: sworn 2 secrets on March 02, 2016, 04:21:25 PM
Sam might not be many things to some but for me he is quality, first caught my attention as 16 year old for the reserves at histon when he hit a 30 yard thunderbolt into top corner good player, good person to have around the club! Setch will know how to deploy him in up and coming games make no mistake.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: tazzywazz on March 02, 2016, 04:57:28 PM
Barry Fry must like him as he is employed as a youth coach!!
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: Frontman on March 02, 2016, 06:47:54 PM
Not Fry's remit!! 
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: tazzywazz on March 02, 2016, 10:35:46 PM
With old Bazza everything's his remit isn't it?
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: Mallard on March 03, 2016, 08:26:08 AM
The Posh Owner has certainly moved a few managers on ( including Ferguson)  so it would appear is not backwards in coming forwards.   Yet Bazza is still in situ.  I guess the man that matters feels he is doing a worthwhile job for the Club.

I remember Him sending his Boy on loan to us, didn't look good enough for our level, let alone at pro level.   Not always the best thing is Nepotism.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: robbo84 on March 03, 2016, 09:25:01 AM
That was shortly after they'd taken Tommy Taylor and Adam Smith. Think they loaned us another player as well that appeared in the Oldham game. Either way neither of them did much for us.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: rod on March 03, 2016, 10:27:54 AM
Peterborough have certainly been succesful in identifying and signing non league talent and then selling on at a profit - is this down to Barry Fry? If so, that is probably the reason for his longevity at the club?

I would not be at all surprised to see Tom Meechan ex Godmanchester and St Neots eventually ending up there via Newport - exactly the path trodden by Conor Washington?
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: New Recruit on March 03, 2016, 07:58:30 PM
Never heard Barry Fry called Bazza but has always had shady people around him; Dunstable, Barnet & Peterborough.
He has some financial interest in the Club and I do know Keith Alexander was stitched up by Irish Chair and Fry.
Then there was Sky and Big Ron overseeing / overriding Bleasdale; til he resigned 20 mins before game!
Was interesting to talk to Keith Alexander & Danny Crow about the shenanigans! 
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: Mallard on March 04, 2016, 09:40:51 AM
NR, Are you saying the likes of ticket tout and ex Barnet Chairman, Stan Flashman are dodgy ?

Think we have had our fair share of them at The Walks Over the Years.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: New Recruit on March 04, 2016, 10:40:11 AM
Certainly have??  Where ever there is cash there will be those that take advantage!! That has happened over many years starting in 1970-71! Lottery; Bars; Gate Cash all very vulnerable!! And most of all spending more on team than is viable!! That was 70-71 when 6+ houses were sold (owned by Club) cheaply. 85-86; 90-91; 09-10; all from spending money Club didn't have! How many Directors have allowed that to happen; knowing there is only one consequence!!
Certainly won't happen under this Tenure!!
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: robbo84 on March 04, 2016, 10:58:45 AM
Unfortunately where there is money there is often the need to feed egos and greed. A lot of us still feel the pain of what happened back then. Whilst the days at Fisher and Merthyr will be held with a fondness and never forgotten, I am far happier knowing the club is being run more responsibly now.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: Mallard on March 04, 2016, 11:22:20 AM
Of course Clubs suffer with Mismanagement, at the top level,  and lets not forget managers who should be included in that who will go back to their board and ask for More money.  Lets not forget the amount of Money that gets wasted on players who didn't perform/weren't good enough etc.  Even this season we had the a so called 20 goal plus striker who came in. Was he worth the Money he was being paid ?

As far as I remember the last lot paid the bills, of course until they couldn't pay them anymore.  Lets remember that was a good few years into their tenure.  I don't recall any Players at the time saying, Hold on Mr Manager/Chairman you are paying me  too much, really I think I should have less.  Or any fans saying  Hang on this  squad is costing too much, it should be reduced.

Lots of people get caught up in this craving for success, and the fans can be just as guilty.  How many Times have we read on  here that we need a bigger budget to compete. 
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: rod on March 04, 2016, 12:48:56 PM
I for one questioned what was going on when the likes of Andy Johnson on a reputed 1k a week and a director of football were appointed..................We even then seemed to be living way beyond our means, unless a wealthy benefactor could be found who was prepared to continue 'putting his hand in his pocket?!!!
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: robbo84 on March 04, 2016, 01:54:58 PM
We gained a reputation as a club for paying big money - we also had a management team at the helm that seemingly wouldn't say no to some of the demands that were made to secure marquee signings. How many potential signings added a few cheeky quid on to their wage demands off the back of that reputation - and were given it?

Whilst the tax bill was well documented when we were wound up, there was also a six figure sum owed to everyday creditors. Even some players that continued to play when we began cost cutting in Conference North never saw wages they were owed.

Whilst I look back with fondness at days like Fisher and Merthyr, I am perfectly happy having a management team who cut their cloth accordingly, and are not afraid to say no to silly demands.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: Mallard on March 04, 2016, 02:35:29 PM
Rod,  we did have a wealthy benefactor... In Chinn.  I would suggest while he was putting his hand in his pocket we were living within our Means.  I thought it Joachim who was 1K a week, didn't hear that Rumour about Johnson.  Though he was still knocking around when Heggs took over.  Didn't take look for Heggs to sort it out though.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: robbo84 on March 04, 2016, 03:40:38 PM
I think it was well publicised that Joachim was on 1,500 per week but this deal was financed directly by Chinn. This is why he stayed with us when the club began cost cutting.

Heggs wanted a clean slate by releasing the entire squad with the exception of Johnson, although I understand he did try and persuade Dom Dwyer to stay rather than move to the USA.
Title: Re: Sam G
Post by: Mallard on March 04, 2016, 03:55:32 PM
I don't think Heggs wanted Johnson, but think he was on contract so he had to go with it.  Heggs did off load him PDQ into the new season though and got  his own man in.