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Title: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: Mcl1970 on March 08, 2016, 12:31:11 PM
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Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: Mark on March 08, 2016, 12:42:45 PM
anyone know how much to get in tonight
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: Mcl1970 on March 08, 2016, 12:47:00 PM
our normal price is 4 and haven't been told of any increase but if there is should be 5 if there is an increase if that helps.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: tazzywazz on March 08, 2016, 01:06:37 PM
Bar is open as well
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: Backie9 on March 08, 2016, 01:58:09 PM
Game on :)
As I said before we will have a few first team players tonight mixed in with the reserve lads, plus Setch will be helping us in the dugout like he did at Wroxham, this is something I wanted as he was a great help in the last game.
Hope to see you all tonight
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: jesuslinnet on March 08, 2016, 10:04:17 PM
Awful result.
Awful performance,
Awful ref.
Awful weather.
I love football!  :scarf:
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: Nigel nigle on March 09, 2016, 08:13:42 AM
Well i have to say Dereham were the better team last night and deserved the win, Lynn's performance i thought was disjointed, may be because of the introduction of the first teamers? While there were some poor decisions by the ref wouldn't it be a shock if the ref had turned round to the Dereham forwards in the first half last night and told them they were **!@& useless having missed four or five easy chances but they have to put up with constant abuse.

Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: Mallard on March 09, 2016, 08:15:38 AM
No shame in that result.  Dereham are not having the best of seasons but they are still a step 4 team, and lets not forget as well as the Reserves have done this season it is still step 6, the same level as Dereham Res.  Imagine if it was our first team played Dereham Res.  That should put last nights results in prospective.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: tazzywazz on March 09, 2016, 09:15:25 AM
I agree with you Mallard. We had a team of mainly reserve and 1st team squad players against a step 4 first team. Although Dereham dominated the first half when we scored we were on top and were looking the better side. The penalty against Tom Mcleish was ridiculous, Pedro had the ball in his hands around the 6 yard area and Mucker and the Dereham player were on the edge of the 18 yard box and looked to have run into each other. Nobody appealed for anything and the linesman, who was level with play, did not raise his flag. It may well have been a different game without this ridiculous decision. Once the ref had sent Matty Henman to the stands he completely lost the plot and control of the game.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: Mallard on March 09, 2016, 09:30:30 AM
As disappointing as it for the Young lads  that they wont be running out at Carrow Road,  I feel the whole Competition has been devalued by the goings on with Norwich Utd and  The Norfolk FA.  In what should be the Norfolk FA's showpiece event of the season is just now a total farce, of their own making.  The people involved there should hang their heads in shame, and maybe some involved  should move on.  Have we not seen and heard enough from the likes of Sepp Blatter at FIFA ? now we see the Norfolk FA making it up as they go along.

I really do not feel this Competition is anything better than the League Cup that we play in that no one seems to have too much interest in.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: robbo84 on March 09, 2016, 10:10:05 AM
As disappointing as it for the Young lads  that they wont be running out at Carrow Road,  I feel the whole Competition has been devalued by the goings on with Norwich Utd and  The Norfolk FA.  In what should be the Norfolk FA's showpiece event of the season is just now a total farce, of their own making.  The people involved there should hang their heads in shame, and maybe some involved  should move on.  Have we not seen and heard enough from the likes of Sepp Blatter at FIFA ? now we see the Norfolk FA making it up as they go along.

I really do not feel this Competition is anything better than the League Cup that we play in that no one seems to have too much interest in.

Justice will be served if Dereham win I guess, but you're right. It is often laughable that the FA can criticise FIFA when they can't even be consistent around decision making and applying rules correctly.

Any club that takes the League Cup seriously will always have a very good chance of winning it. We used to around the time when Colin Nichols was Chairman. We'd normally reach the Quarter Finals or even Semi Finals before you came up against a team putting a full strength side out.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: rod on March 09, 2016, 12:03:28 PM
It is surely a bit misleading to label last night's team 'Lynn reserves' - more a Lynn XI, as 3 are now featuring regularly in the first team, 2 have in the recent past and 2 more were / are regular first team squad players.....................Before the usual suspects 'jump upon me' for being seemingly critical - I am only making a point and as I have previously posted, yes I do understand the need sometimes to give Squad players some game time but I also feel sorry for those reserve regulars who had to make way - some of whom did not even make the bench.

I just wonder if it had been a truly reserve team whether the outcome would have been much different?.............We will never know!
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: Mallard on March 09, 2016, 12:25:44 PM
First team wise there was only Street, Castellan, Mulready  and Jacek.  First team squad members were Fryatt and Edge.

Not sure it always works when you mix and match teams.  We lost,  so  think a full Reserve team would have also lost.  Big gap between step 6 and step 4. Even allowing for home advantage.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: rod on March 09, 2016, 12:44:45 PM
...and Toby Hilliard?
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: Mallard on March 09, 2016, 01:33:19 PM
Good call Rod, Forgot Toby.

So 5 Regular first teamers 2 squad... so 7 First teamers and 4 Reserves starting.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: tazzywazz on March 09, 2016, 01:59:49 PM
There is the conundrum, if we had entered as KIng's Lynn Town would it have been right to play mainly reserve team players in the early and then a few less in the later rounds. I like to think that the club is much more integrated than in the past and any team put out to represent the club are doing exactly that, representing. Last nights team gave Setch a chance to look at players who in the main are not regular 1st team players together with some of the more experienced reserves. IMO the team were capable of winning the game and may well have done so if the referee hadn't made a cock up with both penalties. I doubt a full Reserve team would have been capable of beating Dereham. I would like to congratulate Kevin White for his performance last night, never stopped running and was the pick of the Lynn midfield players by some way, not bad for a "$%&@ year old.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: Mallard on March 09, 2016, 02:39:36 PM
Not often I agree with you Tazzy.  As Ab Would have said you cannot please all of the people all of the time. 

I guess it all boils down to where the NSC comes in the swing of the things.   If The first team is having a nothing season then it might be a good call for club Morale to go for it.  Then again if they are going for Promotion it might make sense to keep your players fresh and play a couple of fringe 1st team players ( I felt playing Street was a big risk) to keep them sharp.  Also in latter rounds it gives the young players a chance to compete against teams of a higher level. In the NFA   that is Dereham, Wroxham, Thetford,  Fakenham  Gorleston  Swaffham and Norwich Utd. 

No shame in going out to a decent Dereham side and a Carrow Road appearance will be the high point of their season.  Reserves can take heart in the fact that they got a few good scalps along the way ( Swaffham, Wroxham) and did well to get to a Semi.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: robbo84 on March 09, 2016, 03:18:03 PM
Swaffham was League Cup I think Mallard, but another great result in a season I hope the Reserve players and management will look back on with some considerable pride.

Best of luck to Dereham in the final.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: Mallard on March 09, 2016, 03:32:57 PM
Thanks Robbo, Wrong again.  Tazzy will be in his element.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: tazzywazz on March 09, 2016, 04:06:08 PM
Never said a word Mallard!!
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: robbo84 on March 09, 2016, 04:24:53 PM
May also be worth pointing out that the Swaffham result was achieved on a night when a few Reserves were on First Team duty against Barton and some of the U18 team went with the Reserves. Both teams managed to pull off results that night.

I was at Barton that night and McLeish, Bird, Frohawk and Liam Fryatt all started the game for the First Team, with Dylan Edge coming off the bench for his debut.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: tazzywazz on March 09, 2016, 06:38:02 PM
Isn't that proof Robbo, along with other games, that the integration in the club is reaping dividends. I was at the Swaffham game and having gone a goal down in seconds we completely hammered Swaffham, they were amazed when we told them we had several regulars missing. The Reserves have also played quite a few games with a number of youth team players playing, not always with a winning result, but with one exception always a great team performance. Exciting times.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: rod on March 09, 2016, 07:36:59 PM
I thought that the Swaffham result was tremendous and progressive. With a depleted reserve team being supplemented by some from the youth team..........Just an opinion but having so many first teamers playing in the 'reserves' at any one time, like last evening, is the opposite?
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: robbo84 on March 09, 2016, 09:28:22 PM
I totally agree Tazzy. We were excellent against Barton that night. Yes they're a struggling Step 4 side but at the time the game would have been a big step up for the Reserves that played. Didn't Swaffham accuse us of putting First teamers out until it was pointed out it was quite the opposite?
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: tazzywazz on March 09, 2016, 11:06:54 PM
They certainly did Robbo, that's how much we outplayed them. I think the Norfolk Senior Cup Rod, where Norwich City are entitled to enter and field any 'senior' team is different and the club are entitled to field any team of players who are qualified to play, i.e. played at least two games for the reserves in this case. I don't see it's any different to reserves/youth, all players registered and qualified. In the past when the reserves where 'separate' from the club you may have a point but that is no longer the case with the set up as is now. Setch/Backie were entitled to field that team, no problems at all.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: rod on March 10, 2016, 11:13:29 AM
Tazzy it is great that we can on occasion agree to differ but still have the best interests of our club at heart?! On this one I think it is more about perception.......................Is the primary intention to win the NSC or to use it as a vehicle to give the reserve squad the opportunity to test themselves against higher level opposition?

As I have posted previously I have no problem whatsoever with  one or two first team squad members getting some much needed game time and adding a bit of experience but as was the case on Tuesday, for me, seven regular or first team squad members was a bit 'over the top'.

On the subject of 'experience' - although I am not a regular at reserve games, it is obvious to me just how vital is the role played by Kevin White. A calming influence who knits things together superbly.
Title: Re: RESERVES V DEREHAM TOWN GAME ON TONIGHT
Post by: robbo84 on March 10, 2016, 11:36:57 AM
Maybe the inclusion of each player should be reviewed on its own merits.

Dylan and Liam Fryatt are still only on the fringes of the First Team squad, so I fully expect them to feature regularly for the Reserves when the opportunity arises.

Sam and Toby are both still after minutes on the pitch. Adding Jacek into that equation I would imagine there was also a hope that between them they would get goals and gain a bit of confidence from that.

The bigger risks in my opinion were Street and Castellan, although they would doubtlessly have added strength at the back on the night.

Other than Liam Fryatt picking up a ban (one game?); it looks like the rest came through unscathed.