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Title: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: westlynnmike on November 15, 2019, 10:25:26 AM
Club statement
November 15, 2019

Following a meeting between the King’s Lynn Town football club safety advisory group and representatives of  the local authorities, including Norfolk Police, a person has been given a banning order from attending all fixtures at The Walks stadium for the remainder of the 2019/ 20 season. This is in relation to an incident that took place during the fixture with Chester, played at The Walks  on Saturday October 12th 2019 and another  incident prior to this date. A second person has also been issued with a ‘ final warning  ‘ letter in relation to events that took place , again during the match with Chester. 

During the fixture at Bradford Park Avenue on Saturday November 9th 2019 two King’s Lynn Town supporters were ejected from Bradford’s stadium for incidents that occurred during the first half of the game. These two individuals have been identified by the club and are also (in the process) of receiving ‘ final warning ‘ letters in relation to their actions.  All three persons issued with ‘ final warning’ letters have been told that further repetition of their actions will also result in banning orders from attending all fixtures at The Walks.

The actions of the persons above has seen the club being fined by the Football Association and warned of their future conduct. Indeed an investigation regarding last weekend’s incidents  are still ongoing. It is with all of these factors taken into account  that the club are now adopting a ‘ zero tolerance ‘ stand on such misbehaviour and actions. The club also wishes that all supporters read and are aware of a ‘ safe guarding statement ‘ that appears in every home match programme covering supporter behaviour whilst in the ground.

As a club we value and appreciate your support of the club and team greatly. However we do ask that your support is given correctly and not in a way that could cause offence to others. We will be monitoring  behaviour even more closely from now on, beginning at Southport  on Saturday  ,  to ensure this happens. Further incidents and allegations this season could see serious consequences  for the club in the future.

 The club will be making no further comment on this statement.   

 
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: westlynnmike on November 15, 2019, 10:28:45 AM
Minority idiots who cannot behave themselves in a civilised manner have spoilt things for the majority again. Can they not engage their brains and think of the ramifications of their actions  :dontknow:  :banghead; :banghead; :yellow card: :yellow card::red card:
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Coastal linnet on November 15, 2019, 10:30:10 AM
Why "final warnings" ? Kick them out now!
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: GrahamB on November 15, 2019, 11:23:02 AM
Name and shame, whats the point of keeping it quiet for their sake? They'll probably be bragging about it on social media by the end of the day. If we get hit with points reduction or fine is it fair on the supporters or more so the players who have put everything into the season. Life ban seems more appropriate
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Grissles Oleary on November 15, 2019, 11:46:42 AM
Name and shame, whats the point of keeping it quiet for their sake? They'll probably be bragging about it on social media by the end of the day. If we get hit with points reduction or fine is it fair on the supporters or more so the players who have put everything into the season. Life ban seems more appropriate

One has already taken to social media!  :banghead;
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Mallard on November 15, 2019, 11:50:34 AM
There’s Stephen Cleeve opening up on how much he is having to put in to keep the club up at the top of the League then the poor bloke is hit by FA for poor fan behaviour.   Have a word with yaself’s guys.  You should be helping to keep this standard of football going at The Walks not hampering it by penalising the club with stupid fines.

Everyone should be doing their bit.  Chairman (tick) Players ( tick) Volunteers.  As for the fans let’s see you keep turning up in ever greater numbers.  Then any money Stephen puts in helps Ian with the strength of his squad.

Sorry for the rant 
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: GrahamB on November 15, 2019, 11:51:30 AM
Well I'm not afraid to name him(them)
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Grissles Oleary on November 15, 2019, 12:39:58 PM
Well I'm not afraid to name him(them)


I wouldn't bother, he is already plastering himself everywhere!  :banghead;
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Mallard on November 15, 2019, 01:18:24 PM
Does the banned person not feel the decision was just, Griss ?
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Grissles Oleary on November 15, 2019, 01:42:28 PM
The person feels they have been singled out as a publicity stunt, and is making many wild claims on Facebook.  :banghead;
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: GrahamB on November 15, 2019, 01:55:11 PM
NW Excursions?
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Mallard on November 15, 2019, 02:17:24 PM
Or Exclusion’s ?
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Mallard on November 15, 2019, 02:18:14 PM
Who are the 3 who have received warnings ?
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Grissles Oleary on November 15, 2019, 02:46:15 PM
Who are the 3 who have received warnings ?

Not me.  :laughcry:
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: KES80 on November 15, 2019, 05:24:39 PM
Given the fairly recent issues of flares, followed by  verbal abuse of a reserve team player, on social media, I am aghast that there wasn't a zero tolerance policy in place at the start of the season.
If the club are serious about building crowds, getting new young supporters and families into the ground, they need to stamp out unwanted behaviour quickly and that should also include foul language, whoever it is directed at.
Some 'supporters' need to realise quickly that just because they have been getting away with it in the past , doesn't mean it's acceptable from now on. So if someone transgresses from now on it should mean a ban ....and not for the rest of the season, but for at least 10 years.
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: KES80 on November 15, 2019, 07:56:19 PM
I would like to see, (if it were legally possible) that within the 'Safeguarding Statement/Club and Supporters Charter, call it what you will, a list of club responsibilities to fans and a list of fans' responsibilities whilst in the ground and a statement to the fact that when in the ground, by the act of buying a ticket, fans agree to adhere to the rules and moreover agree to indemnify the club for any financial loss arising from non adherence. If this were possible the club could seek recompense from individuals for fines and this would hopefully be a huge disincentive for unsuitable behaviour.
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Grissles Oleary on November 15, 2019, 08:10:04 PM
I would like to see, (if it were legally possible) that within the 'Safeguarding Statement/Club and Supporters Charter, call it what you will, a list of club responsibilities to fans and a list of fans' responsibilities whilst in the ground and a statement to the fact that when in the ground, by the act of buying a ticket, fans agree to adhere to the rules and moreover agree to indemnify the club for any financial loss arising from non adherence. If this were possible the club could seek recompense from individuals for fines and this would hopefully be a huge disincentive for unsuitable behaviour.


That would be some hell of a long statement, there is a short statement of expectaion printedin the programme and in some places around the ground,basis is 'treat me a a human being and I will treat you as one'! Just that the idiots who break the rules have got away for too long,that is why the current crop are making headlines!
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: KES80 on November 15, 2019, 08:24:10 PM
"Whilst in the ground you are expected to act in a responsible and respectful manner, respecting fire and safety legislation and being respectful to those around you, both in the crowd and on the pitch. By the act of purchasing a ticket, you agree to these conditions and furthermore agree to indemnify the club, for any loss resulting from non adherence."
Something along these lines (obviously would need sharpening up by someone in the legal profession.)
Not especially long  tho Griss
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Bluboy on November 16, 2019, 10:00:10 AM
Given the fairly recent issues of flares, followed by  verbal abuse of a reserve team player, on social media, I am aghast that there wasn't a zero tolerance policy in place at the start of the season.
If the club are serious about building crowds, getting new young supporters and families into the ground, they need to stamp out unwanted behaviour quickly and that should also include foul language, whoever it is directed at.
Some 'supporters' need to realise quickly that just because they have been getting away with it in the past , doesn't mean it's acceptable from now on. So if someone transgresses from now on it should mean a ban ....and not for the rest of the season, but for at least 10 years.
Well said , I know football is a passionate game and emotions run high and we all forget ourselves every so and then but if anything some language used make me cringe for the families around the area
Against Altrincham a bloke near me used the ‘c’ word in everything he said same with a guy at York ( he became a joke around us after a while ) if anything to raise funds we could have a swear box  that guy would of brought messi by half time  , it is a tricky one for the club to monitor but I feel sometimes we need to look at ourselves and think if it’s acceptable what we are saying .
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on November 16, 2019, 10:57:52 AM
Given the fairly recent issues of flares, followed by  verbal abuse of a reserve team player, on social media, I am aghast that there wasn't a zero tolerance policy in place at the start of the season.
If the club are serious about building crowds, getting new young supporters and families into the ground, they need to stamp out unwanted behaviour quickly and that should also include foul language, whoever it is directed at.
Some 'supporters' need to realise quickly that just because they have been getting away with it in the past , doesn't mean it's acceptable from now on. So if someone transgresses from now on it should mean a ban ....and not for the rest of the season, but for at least 10 years.
Well said , I know football is a passionate game and emotions run high and we all forget ourselves every so and then but if anything some language used make me cringe for the families around the area
Against Altrincham a bloke near me used the ‘c’ word in everything he said same with a guy at York ( he became a joke around us after a while ) if anything to raise funds we could have a swear box  that guy would of brought messi by half time  , it is a tricky one for the club to monitor but I feel sometimes we need to look at ourselves and think if it’s acceptable what we are saying .

This is the reason I sit in the main stand.

At the Walks, I know that I sit in a part of the main stand, where the language is moderate, and have heard excessive swearing being called out by those around me, so feel comfortable taking young kids.

I also know, and hear, less moderate language, from the terrace on the far side. This is anticipated, and people are allowed to enjoy themselves, and express themselves. Chants of cheat, boo's and the regular b's and w's are to be anticipated. But at times people turn from the relatively tame, competitive insults, to really personal, vitriolic abuse, that wouldn't be tolerated if it were to happen on the street. In the play-off semi-final two seasons ago was the first time in a while that I really noted it, and it seems to have been happening more frequently since then. Culminating in the fines and bans we've recently had.

People just need to be grown up adults, take responsibility for their actions, and remember that it's not life and death, it's a game you enjoy watching.

A warning, season ban, 5 year/life ban seems a reasonable gradation of responses, with skipping straight to the end of the scale for more serious offences, like anything that had resulted in ejection from the ground (home or away). Though I do wonder if a fine to the individual could be tied in to accompanying the warning/ban. It's unlikely the debt would be enforceable, but entry could be denied until the balance was paid.
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: alex on November 16, 2019, 05:43:33 PM
I stand opposite the main stand, but try to stay out of earshot of these morons. If they have a problem with issues watching footballers with more talent than they ever had, they should go for counselling on a Saturday afternoon.  The stewards, who do their best for little or no reward, do not have the authorithy to deal with this scum. The club needs to
Sort this out.
Title: Re: Fans Ban-Final Warnings
Post by: dillydilly on November 17, 2019, 11:14:19 AM
Tragically, the racism issue is a nationwide problem.  It is a stain on our outlook on life, but it certainly isn’t experienced solely in the football world.  Indeed, “the game” is mostly powerless to prevent the appalling incidents we often witness, and any blame attached to it is often delivered to deflect attention away from the National problem.  Of course clubs must do their best to deal with individual incidents, but the cure, in the end, can only come through sanctions and education outside the game.