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Title: The Pitch
Post by: stevejuke on December 08, 2019, 07:56:57 PM
Having received numerous comments on the recent condition of the pitch, I thought I ought to respond.

With the greatest respect to the Chairman, Management, Players and of course the fans, I cannot be called to account for the amount of rain we have had in the last couple of months. For everyone’s information, we have had, without splitting hairs, 320 mm (old money 13 inches) of rain the the last 7 weeks.

Also, for your information, one inch of water equals 113 tons of water per acre.   The pitch is one and a half acres. Therefore, we have effectively had 2,200 tons of water in 7 weeks. Even with the new drainage installed, I have no control over the amount of rain we have had.  I can assure you that I will do my best to keep the pitch flat and divot free at 3 pm. What happens during the game is out of my hands.

Rant over.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: jesuslinnet on December 08, 2019, 08:02:17 PM
No one is blaming you, you're doing a fantastic job.
You can't control the weather.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Mallard on December 08, 2019, 08:13:06 PM
Echo that one Jesus.  Steve you have done a great job with the pitch.  Great for free flowing football in August with the sun shining.  Now we have the wet winter months and the non growing months, it is what it is.   

IC I’m sure will come up with a plan to adapt.  That should throw a few teams who have had us watched. 

Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 08, 2019, 08:21:27 PM
I've not seen any comments about the pitch recently, either good or bad.   :dontknow:
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: stevejuke on December 08, 2019, 08:24:12 PM
They have been verbal direct at me.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Nigel nigle on December 08, 2019, 08:30:10 PM
Since you have been looking after the pitch there is no doubt it has vastly improved, there is no doubt about that. These days there is obviously more science about creating that carpet like pitch all season which i am sure also costs money - and there is the balance.

Keep up the good work Steve
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 08, 2019, 08:31:54 PM
They have been verbal direct at me.

OK. Thanks for the explanation. I thought that as you had posted on here about it, that it somehow involved the forum.

That's a lot of water!
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Mallard on December 08, 2019, 08:47:01 PM
I’m surprised Steve that anyone has had anything detrimental to say to you re the pitch. 
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: KES80 on December 08, 2019, 08:50:04 PM
I should just try and ignore the comments Steve, you can't do any more in the current circumstances......this autumn's rainfall is just something else. Whilst Hereford have the money to produce a carpet, further improvements are still needed at The Walks. Anyone moaning should take a look at Kettering's pitch, likened to The Somme, by some, at the weekend.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Mallard on December 08, 2019, 08:59:06 PM
IC wants to play a free flowing game and for that needs a really decent surface.  With him coming from the pro game it’s a bit unfair if he thinks pitches are going to be of the standard he is use to at this level.   I’m sure Steve that you have a limited budget to work to with regard the pitch etc and you do the very best you can.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Dazzarugby65 on December 08, 2019, 09:07:06 PM
Having received numerous comments on the recent condition of the pitch, I thought I ought to respond.

With the greatest respect to the Chairman, Management, Players and of course the fans, I cannot be called to account for the amount of rain we have had in the last couple of months. For everyone’s information, we have had, without splitting hairs, 320 mm (old money 13 inches) of rain the the last 7 weeks.

Also, for your information, one inch of water equals 113 tons of water per acre.   The pitch is one and a half acres. Therefore, we have effectively had 2,200 tons of water in 7 weeks. Even with the new drainage installed, I have no control over the amount of rain we have had.  I can assure you that I will do my best to keep the pitch flat and divot free at 3 pm. What happens during the game is out of my hands.

Rant over.
[/quote

 :farmer: :farmer: :farmer: :oldman" Well said Steve, I can't give you enough praise for the state our pitch is in, excellent compared to only 12 months ago is all I can say. Being a farmer myself and being unable to get on the land to plant our crops,I fully understand your dilemmas, if indeed people are complaining. Ignore them, they have obviously got no worthwhile knowledge of soil maintenance and condition. Please keep doing what you are doing the pitch looks the best it has ever done in my near 50 years of attending the Walks. :farmer: :farmer: :farmer: :oldman"
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Grissles Oleary on December 08, 2019, 11:54:04 PM
Having received numerous comments on the recent condition of the pitch, I thought I ought to respond.

With the greatest respect to the Chairman, Management, Players and of course the fans, I cannot be called to account for the amount of rain we have had in the last couple of months. For everyone’s information, we have had, without splitting hairs, 320 mm (old money 13 inches) of rain the the last 7 weeks.

Also, for your information, one inch of water equals 113 tons of water per acre.   The pitch is one and a half acres. Therefore, we have effectively had 2,200 tons of water in 7 weeks. Even with the new drainage installed, I have no control over the amount of rain we have had.  I can assure you that I will do my best to keep the pitch flat and divot free at 3 pm. What happens during the game is out of my hands.

Rant over.



Many comments I heard on Saturday regarding the state of the pitch were all in the positive,saying how well you have done to keep it at all playable with the recent rain. Some were saying that if it was the old guard looking after the pitch it probably would have been called off. Again echoing many others,well done and keep up the good work. :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Badger on December 09, 2019, 06:10:26 AM
Honestly, how can anyone complain about the pitch, it has never ever been in such good condition. IC has said the pitch is boggy and it is affecting the style of football he wants to play but doesn’t blame you.  Please don’t lose heart, SC has said you are one of his best appointments and no doubt you have his full support, and I suspect 99% of the club’s supporters. Speaking of supporters I am still amazed and disappointed that the Pitch Sponsorship has not yet sold out. To think you only had to sell 200 at the start of the season and only just over half have been sold is a disgrace.  Good luck in all your efforts.
Badger :oldman"
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: GrahamB on December 09, 2019, 07:29:18 AM
As per the other comments Steve, I am not aware of any complaints with you and the excellent job you are doing. A blind man and his dog can see the amount of rain that has fallen in the past weeks and to keep the pitch as you have, in probably one of the wettest areas in lynn,  is a credit to you. You only have to take a stroll through the Walks and look at the water level in there to see how high the water table is, so I would simply say keep doing what you are doing! Its the same for both teams.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 09, 2019, 09:57:04 AM
You only have to take a stroll through the Walks and look at the water level in there to see how high the water table is, so I would simply say keep doing what you are doing! Its the same for both teams.

Exactly. Last time I looked, water doesn't flow upwards!
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: westlynnmike on December 09, 2019, 10:22:50 AM
Maybe the "moaners" should do a bit of fund-raising towards a ROOF.  :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Mallard on December 09, 2019, 11:21:55 AM
Surely Mike with a roof we would run the risk of those overhit crosses bouncing of it :laughcry:
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 09, 2019, 11:54:01 AM
Surely Mike with a roof we would run the risk of those overhit crosses bouncing of it :laughcry:

Keep it on the floor!

 :laughcry:
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: macfleetwood1 on December 09, 2019, 05:30:35 PM
Please see my former post about the 3rd of the pitch in the shadow of the main stand this time of the year. It will not dry out until March, frosts will not thaw like the rest of the pitch. I offered a 3 figure donation to help to pay for a cover of some type, greeted with a stony  silence from all fronts. The money is out there, and I am not talking about SC paying out again. 
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: dillydilly on December 09, 2019, 05:46:29 PM
Steve - there are 4 reasons of absolutely equal importance as to why this club has hit an outstanding level.  I repeat, all 4 are of equal level in importance....  The Chairman, the Manager, the Team, and Steve’s massively improved pitch.  Fingers crossed that we enthuse the personnel responsible for our dramatic improvement to continue their interest and efforts. 
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Grissles Oleary on December 09, 2019, 07:33:16 PM
Would it be at all possible for someone to come up with a costing?  :dontknow:
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: GrahamB on December 10, 2019, 07:20:19 AM
The cost of a cover for the pitch is £4K , as stated by SC at the poorly attend evening, supporters are going to make a collection amongst the KLTFC supporters at Boston on New Years Day with the hope of raising min.£2k which SC said he would match to get a cover. He had enquired with the Football Foundation for a grant but the process takes hours of paperwork for a small return.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Bluboy on December 10, 2019, 10:27:55 AM
 I’ve a plan .... let’s just say there’s 400 of us  out there who’s going to buy the misses for Xmas totally impractical underwear ( we don’t see it that way but they do )  for  a tenner ... so how about we all contribute the money for the pitch cover , instead of upsetting ourselves  looking them laying in the draws gathering dust .....    :comeon:
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Grissles Oleary on December 10, 2019, 11:24:00 AM
The cost of a cover for the pitch is £4K , as stated by SC at the poorly attend evening, supporters are going to make a collection amongst the KLTFC supporters at Boston on New Years Day with the hope of raising min.£2k which SC said he would match to get a cover. He had enquired with the Football Foundation for a grant but the process takes hours of paperwork for a small return.

Shame the evening was poorly attended, a suggestion for the next one, free entry and buy your own beer, would have been a bigger money maker for the club. Did they raise anything on the night, maybe ran a football card or two?  :dontknow:
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: TonyM on December 10, 2019, 01:52:15 PM
The cost of a cover for the pitch is £4K , as stated by SC at the poorly attend evening, supporters are going to make a collection amongst the KLTFC supporters at Boston on New Years Day with the hope of raising min.£2k which SC said he would match to get a cover. He had enquired with the Football Foundation for a grant but the process takes hours of paperwork for a small return.

Shame the evening was poorly attended, a suggestion for the next one, free entry and buy your own beer, would have been a bigger money maker for the club. Did they raise anything on the night, maybe ran a football card or two?  :dontknow:

Given how much beer was consumed on Thursday I think its pretty safe to say this alternative would have cost the club money rather than being a bigger money maker for the club, how many more people do you think would have attended?  You said you couldn't go because of work, not the price of the ticket.  The 'all inclusive' price it wasn't bad value and would also have raised a small amount for the club. 
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: TonyM on December 10, 2019, 01:58:07 PM
Please see my former post about the 3rd of the pitch in the shadow of the main stand this time of the year. It will not dry out until March, frosts will not thaw like the rest of the pitch. I offered a 3 figure donation to help to pay for a cover of some type, greeted with a stony  silence from all fronts. The money is out there, and I am not talking about SC paying out again.

Mac, a great offer and if you are in the away end at the Boston game I am sure you could introduce yourself to the guys doing the collecting - SC said he would match what was raised when it was suggested that a collection might raise half of the £4K required, if the away fans could raise more then I am sure the Chairman would be more than happy.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: macfleetwood1 on December 11, 2019, 03:16:39 PM
Not sure if I can make New Years Day, who is doing the collection for the pitch. Trust or FOTL?  Will they take a cheque, or Bacs payment, payable to who?
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Mallard on December 11, 2019, 04:15:39 PM
Why not do a collection at The Walks on Boxing Day?  Surely that would enjoy greater success than an away game ?   Would give more local people a chance to contribute.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Paul Hampson on December 13, 2019, 02:57:25 AM
Steve the work you have done on the pitch has been noticed by many.
All I ever hear is how great the pitch is looking.
Also its so nice too see Lynn playing the game on the ground and that's down to you Steve so keep up the amazing work you do and I for one take my hat off to you for how you changed it from a dumping ground for sand to something that resembles a carpet is a miracle.  :cup2: :cup2:
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Paulos on December 13, 2019, 02:52:03 PM
Have to echo these comments I do hope that there is going to be a bucket collection boxing day too, with q crowd of 1000+ very likely it would seem a massive opportunity missed if this doesn't happen.
Like previously asked who's doing the collection?


Why not do a collection at The Walks on Boxing Day?  Surely that would enjoy greater success than an away game ?   Would give more local people a chance to contribute.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Blue Moon on December 13, 2019, 04:37:51 PM
All games on River Lane are off again, water from the Walks must link into the same system, is the Millfleet outfall being opened to allow the water out?
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: sworn 2 secrets on December 13, 2019, 05:45:15 PM
The pitch with out any doubts is in the best shape it has been for many years,looking at recent weather trends its amazing that hardly a game has bee called off full credit to the groundsman.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Grissles Oleary on December 13, 2019, 07:11:44 PM
I think they should pass the bucket round on Saturday against Dover,how many buckets have you collected Stan? :dontknow: :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Brad94 on January 03, 2020, 10:17:23 PM
Just out of curiosity, has this bucket been passed around. If so, was it a successful? As I personally haven’t seen it
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: pc627 on January 04, 2020, 01:26:52 PM
I have not seen these elusive buckets anywhere.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Mallard on January 04, 2020, 07:34:13 PM
Being dug up at the end of the season and more drainage put in at a cost of 50/60k.    The Chairman says this is needed so IC can play his brand of football all season and not just the opening few months.

Has IC signed a contract as that says he is with us next season.   Well done again Mr Chairman
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Brad94 on January 04, 2020, 11:57:07 PM
More drainage.. how much more can go in? And how much more money can be spent on the pitch. I understand the pitch is crucial for the club, so that the team are able to play the best football we can. It just seems that each season, work is being done to improve the pitch, it is working as the pitch looks a lot better than previous seasons.

I just think we were unlucky with a few weeks of lots of rain, and it buggered the pitch up, and playing on its made it worse. I’m now grass/pitch expert, but could it not be heavy rolled, plus spiked like “lynnsport pitches” seem to get done every year to them? 

I really hope with Mark Hearle now on a full time basis, can bring some major sponsorships to the club, and some supporter funded schemes to help fund the clubs vision.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Brad94 on January 06, 2020, 12:58:33 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/99SXhwW/86-B1-E5-BC-FCDF-4-E2-E-AD7-C-F7-E9-ED157-E4-D.jpg) (https://ibb.co/99SXhwW)

Title: The Walks Pitch Has Been Verti-Drained
Post by: westlynnmike on January 06, 2020, 07:59:29 PM
So, what is Verti-Drain  :dontknow:

Verti-Draining helps alleviate waterlogging and deep aerates the ground to promote healthy growth. The ‘Verti-Drain’ decompacts soil on sports pitches by inserting equally spaced holes in the turf which allow water and air to filter through to the grass roots.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFD9z0GKWrk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8wGyGh8WyM
Title: Re: The Walks Pitch Has Been Verti-Drained
Post by: Bluboy on January 06, 2020, 08:16:23 PM
Great news well done all involved, getting it ready for the promotion push  :scarf:
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Brad94 on January 09, 2020, 08:50:17 PM
Plenty of rain fall last two days, and plenty more due next week. Massive good luck to Steve with the pitch, he can only do what he can do!

With this frost sheet we’re trying to fund, would this then be also put on, to protect the pitch from rain??
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: dillydilly on January 10, 2020, 11:38:09 PM
Nothing against Women’s football, but are they playing on the Stadium pitch as well ?  Haven’t seen it mentioned, but photos suggest that is their regular pitch.....
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: jesuslinnet on January 11, 2020, 01:13:26 AM
Nothing against Women’s football, but are they playing on the Stadium pitch as well ?  Haven’t seen it mentioned, but photos suggest that is their regular pitch.....

No, they don't generally.
I think they played one fa cup game there this season.
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: Brad94 on January 19, 2020, 07:05:24 PM
Bucket collection raised £714.16 at yesterday’s game, believe they were after £2,000 in total, with Cleeve funding the other half?
Title: Re: The Pitch
Post by: TonyM on January 19, 2020, 07:44:35 PM
Bucket collection raised £714.16 at yesterday’s game, believe they were after £2,000 in total, with Cleeve funding the other half?

No, at his Q&A evening SC said he thought the cost of a sheet to cover the area in front of the stand would be about £4K and if the fans raised £2K he would match it, given how little has been raised from our two biggest home gates of the season, I think don't think Steve can expect his sheet to arrive this season and if we do lose a Saturday or two the fans can't moan - we had our chance to show our support and blew it.  I am sorry if that upsets people but Lynn fans all seem to want to enjoy the ride until it comes down to making a contribution to the cost.  Yes, Lynn have expensive admission, expensive VIP costs (Boston was considerably cheaper) and a lack of commercial partners but if SC needs to fund any shortfall himself what else can the man to do?