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Title: IF, we go up.
Post by: Nigel1505 on January 26, 2020, 01:11:24 PM
Would we be able/willing to go full time. If not are there any teams in National League who are partime.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 26, 2020, 01:18:47 PM
Would we be able/willing to go full time. If not are there any teams in National League who are partime.

I've not checked myself, but speaking to someone regarding full time squads only last week, he informed me that there were no p/t National League Clubs.

As said, not checked myself, so needs verifying.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: admin on January 26, 2020, 01:37:05 PM
Back in May the Chorley chairman said the club would not go full time - don't know if things have changed since then.
Sutton weren't last season, don't know about this.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Nigel1505 on January 26, 2020, 01:39:50 PM
If then, we go fulltime, it will be the biggest,(what word should I use), upheaval, advancement, that Kings Lynn FC have ever encountered. That will take some structuring and financing. At least Mr.Gash wouldn't have to climb trees for a living. Never a dull moment at KLFC at the present time.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Nigel1505 on January 26, 2020, 01:50:50 PM
Back in May the Chorley chairman said the club would not go full time - don't know if things have changed since then.
Sutton weren't last season, don't know about this.

Bottom of league at this moment in time.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Mallard on January 26, 2020, 01:52:48 PM
Players must be on a good screw with Full time employment being topped up with what they can earn at this level of part-time Football.  Some would maybe have to give it careful consideration to go full time. Plus the Chairman would have give serious thought to committing to a wage bill of £25k-£35k a week for 52 weeks a year.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 26, 2020, 01:55:39 PM
Players must be on a good screw with Full time employment being topped up with what they can earn at this level of part-time Football.  Some would maybe have to give it careful consideration to go full time. Plus the Chairman would have give serious thought to committing to a wage bill of £25k-£35k a week for 52 weeks a year.

League football was Chairmans aim from day one, so I think its fair to say a full time squad woukd have been taken into account when making plans for the future.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Mallard on January 26, 2020, 02:01:59 PM
Thatís very true, but itís not just the players that will increase the overheads.  Full time Physio, and back room staff, catering etc.  Plus hiring/buying a full time training complex.   Is the Walks up Step Standard in terms of Ground Grading.

With everything I think we can look at outgoings on in excess of £2m a year.  That would keep
Mark Hearle busy.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Nigel1505 on January 26, 2020, 02:02:33 PM
It did ok for me back in the stone age, £8 a week in day job,and £3 quid for playing on a Saturday,Guinness 2 bob a bottle, heaven.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: KES80 on January 26, 2020, 02:26:26 PM
There are a number of hybrid clubs, who are no longer classed as part time outfits, but train say 3 nights a week, but are not fully full time,  eg Dover..I believe.....have only one player who has another job, from what I have read... assume this is still the case.
So guess part time at first,gradually moving to the hybrid model and maybe eventually after a number of years full time. This is all far in the future tho.... let's win the league first !
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Nigel1505 on January 26, 2020, 02:29:22 PM
Quite. :scarf:
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: KES80 on January 26, 2020, 02:31:23 PM
What will be important is to get the core of the squad committed to the club for the next 2 years, if and when it becomes clear that we may go up. Players heads may be turned by playing against players on full time packages.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Nigel1505 on January 26, 2020, 02:49:28 PM
Players like Gash are not going to be around in a couple of years, so the recruitment will be for younger guys. This will be a learning curve for the club to attract full time players to Lynn. Due to our location, like Norwich, Lynn is on the road to nowhere, not easily accessed by road or rail quickly from elsewhere, unless we recruit from Hunstanton, Dersingham or Heacham.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: TonyM on January 26, 2020, 03:08:20 PM
If we went full time where are these players supposed to train?  I also am not really sure how a hybrid system can work for anything other than a short transition to a proper full time model, I think there are a lot of things to resolve before making that sort of commitment.  B&G, as for talk of 'league football', I think SC is only now realising what a task that would be - its lovely to come in on day one and talk the talk but walking the walk is going to be considerably harder and more expensive that he ever thought.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 26, 2020, 03:27:58 PM
B&G, as for talk of 'league football', I think SC is only now realising what a task that would be - its lovely to come in on day one and talk the talk but walking the walk is going to be considerably harder and more expensive that he ever thought.
Tony, I feel you may have hit the nail on the head with that one.

That's unless people on Boston forum know something we don't!   :laughcry:
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Linnet64 on January 26, 2020, 03:49:20 PM
I understand the club are already looking for a new training facility/base. :clap:
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: daleh on January 26, 2020, 04:24:06 PM
Isn't all these comments what they call.'.speculation '?
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Mallard on January 26, 2020, 04:34:44 PM
I hope Stephen Cleeve isnít reading the NLP today and the Chesterfield article.   The Chairman there is having to pump in 150k per month.  He has personal loans with the Club of around 9.5m. 
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Non League on January 26, 2020, 04:41:30 PM
That's mostly because their wage bill is insanley high, and still paying league 2 wages despite not being anywhere near that quality.

Club will not need to go FT. They can function PT at that level, but if club did establish themselves at that level after a season or two and wanted to kick on, they would need to go FT. I say walk then jog, before you run. Going FT straight away would be a recipe for disaster for the club.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Mallard on January 26, 2020, 04:50:14 PM
For sure Non League.  I guess they wanted to keep the structure in place for a quick return to League Football, which wonít happen this season.   Owner seems keen to get a deal done with The Trust there, and who can blame him.

Part time is certainly the way forward and it might be suggested that most players would be better off, finically in working and playing part time.  If anyone could make it work at that level then IC is that man.   Should we manage to make that massive achievement of gaining promotion.   If we donít then it will still have been a great season and am so enjoying the ride.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: TonyM on January 26, 2020, 05:16:51 PM
I understand the club are already looking for a new training facility/base. :clap:

and have been for a while but their obviously isn't an easy or cheap option out there so I guess the hunt goes on
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: wearywillie on January 26, 2020, 05:45:13 PM
I seem to remember Braintree stating last season as reason or excuse for their relegation from National League was because they were part-time whilst the rest of the league were largely full time.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 26, 2020, 05:50:41 PM
For sure Non League.  I guess they wanted to keep the structure in place for a quick return to League Football, which wonít happen this season.   Owner seems keen to get a deal done with The Trust there, and who can blame him.

Part time is certainly the way forward and it might be suggested that most players would be better off, finically in working and playing part time.  If anyone could make it work at that level then IC is that man.   Should we manage to make that massive achievement of gaining promotion.   If we donít then it will still have been a great season and am so enjoying the ride.

.....and if IC believes he needs a full time squad, but SC does not think it is possible?  :dontknow:
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Mallard on January 26, 2020, 06:06:57 PM
I cannot see IC getting that even if he wanted it.  I get the sneaky feeling IC likes this underdog tag with little to no pressure, and proving the pundits wrong with his achievements.
 
This season you listen to ICís interviews.  Very relaxed, quite jovial.  Constantly reminding people how much we are over achieving etc.

When you compare Steve Watsonís post match interviews you can tell the expectation levels resting on his shoulders.

Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on January 26, 2020, 09:14:22 PM
The situation at Barrow. 

https://www.bluebirdstrust.co.uk/play-your-part/

Makes you think.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Brad94 on January 26, 2020, 09:21:35 PM
The situation at Barrow. 

https://www.bluebirdstrust.co.uk/play-your-part/

Makes you think.

With the pitch cover donations, I believe we need a totaliser similar to what theyíve got here, but the club have revealed this is not going to happen 😬
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: TonyM on January 26, 2020, 10:24:34 PM
The situation at Barrow. 

https://www.bluebirdstrust.co.uk/play-your-part/

Makes you think.

With the pitch cover donations, I believe we need a totaliser similar to what theyíve got here, but the club have revealed this is not going to happen 😬

I personally think all supporter donations for the frost sheet and other 'capital' type equipment should go through the Blue & Gold Trust GDF account - the Trust HAVE to account for any monies received in a proper manner and they have deemed to keep this account separate from 'normal' Trust funds and transfer money to the club as and when specific projects are identified with detailed costings.  It is a real shame that the Trust have not continued fund raising for this fund for now as it was very much a win-win for both Trust and Club, fingers crossed it can be reinstated at some point in the future.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Grissles Oleary on January 27, 2020, 12:52:41 AM
The situation at Barrow. 

https://www.bluebirdstrust.co.uk/play-your-part/

Makes you think.

With the pitch cover donations, I believe we need a totaliser similar to what theyíve got here, but the club have revealed this is not going to happen 😬

I personally think all supporter donations for the frost sheet and other 'capital' type equipment should go through the Blue & Gold Trust GDF account - the Trust HAVE to account for any monies received in a proper manner and they have deemed to keep this account separate from 'normal' Trust funds and transfer money to the club as and when specific projects are identified with detailed costings.  It is a real shame that the Trust have not continued fund raising for this fund for now as it was very much a win-win for both Trust and Club, fingers crossed it can be reinstated at some point in the future.



Would be nice to see it reinstated,and maybe another well supported quiz to kick it off? :cheers:
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Non League on January 28, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
Just looking at previous totals required to go up, and I think 90 points should be the aim and be enough in the end. Only 12-13 season has 90 not been enough (2nd finished on 91) since league went to 22 teams in 11-12.

Keep Walks the fortress it is, the club would be within touching distance of that target.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: TonyM on January 28, 2020, 06:14:20 PM
Just looking at previous totals required to go up, and I think 90 points should be the aim and be enough in the end. Only 12-13 season has 90 not been enough (2nd finished on 91) since league went to 22 teams in 11-12.

Keep Walks the fortress it is, the club would be within touching distance of that target.

One game at a time and every weekend we keep that cushion puts more pressure on the chasing pack and less on us, for now I think IC can keep sending the lads out with a 'go play football and enjoy yourselves' attitude.  The Walks doesn't have to be an intimidating place, just one that enjoys watching and accepts the freedom that the team are playing with, that to me is far harder for teams to live.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Lindsays Boot on January 28, 2020, 07:13:29 PM
Final Table predictions from footballwebpages

https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league-north/league-table/predicted

Scroll down to bottom of the page for the predicted match scores

Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Les Smith on January 28, 2020, 10:06:48 PM
Final Table predictions from footballwebpages

https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/national-league-north/league-table/predicted

Scroll down to bottom of the page for the predicted match scores
Good to see Chester lose again tonight. With reference to the 'Final Table Predictions' - ignoring the actual scorelines - they predicted wins for all 4 home sides. However, Kettering lost at home to Altrincham so it all falls down at the first hurdle :glum:
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Mallard on January 28, 2020, 10:33:13 PM
Letís hope Chester with Bernie n Johnno are smarting after that defeat tonight and look to put it right come Saturday.
Title: Re: IF, we go up.
Post by: Linnet64 on January 29, 2020, 07:05:00 AM
They seem to assume Lynn are going to suddenly become a mediocre team from now on  :laughcry: :laughcry:
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