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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: GrahamB on January 30, 2020, 10:35:27 AM

Title: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: GrahamB on January 30, 2020, 10:35:27 AM
There will be a bucket collection for Ryan at Saturdays home game, following his knee surgery last week.

If attending PLEASE give generously  :scarf:
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: westlynnmike on January 30, 2020, 01:48:35 PM
Firstly, may I say I am not a kill-joy or stingy - I have donated to 4 Pitch Squares, put £20 in the Pitch Covers and regularly buy 2 50/50 tickets and have a Season Ticket.

There seems to be a distinct lack of information about players and their injuries. Yes, we know Ryan Fryatt has been out injured for some time but hardly a mention of what happened, what the actual problem is, what treatment or operation and how he is progressing. Also what hardships he is suffering due to his injury.

Yet a bucket is to be passed around to collect donations. For what reason  :dontknow:

If we were to be given much more information and some background factors there might be more sympathy and generosity.

If someone came up to you in town and put a bucket under your nose you would want to know what its all about - I doubt you would just throw money into the pot without a reason.
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: long suffering linnet on January 30, 2020, 02:36:24 PM
Have to agree with this especially if the football club are still paying his wages,which we don't know.As regards the injury Culverhouse said in one of his recent post match interviews he had an operation on his knee.
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: GrahamB on January 30, 2020, 02:47:19 PM
I guess as he is going to be off work 5/6 weeks with a "football injury" this is to help him financially and as he is one of our own. But everyone to their own!
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Bluboy on January 30, 2020, 03:02:51 PM
Surely heíll have insurance ? How about clunan , smithy etc I know not as long term but must be covered some home at this level , Iíll donate but my initial thought was as above posts .   
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Mallard on January 30, 2020, 03:50:40 PM
I thought Ryan was on contract so presume he is still receiving his wages. Plus Insurance money against injury and maybe SSP.  Think the Club should advise of any hardship the lad
Is suffering with.  Just to put it out there that a bucket collection is taking place does seem a bit random.

Mark ? 
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Mark A Hearle on January 30, 2020, 03:58:45 PM
Ryan has paid for the operation on his knee to repair cartilage damage  himself, which wasn't cheap I hasten to add,  and has also had to have time off from his full time job for the operation  and other appointments. Following almost nine years service to the football club we felt a collection to assist Ryan would be looked upon favourably ..... 
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: westlynnmike on January 30, 2020, 04:21:39 PM
Ryan has paid for the operation on his knee to repair cartilage damage  himself, which wasn't cheap I hasten to add,  and has also had to have time off from his full time job for the operation  and other appointments. Following almost nine years service to the football club we felt a collection to assist Ryan would be looked upon favourably .....

There, that wasn't hard was it?

Ryan has been a good servant to the Club and it is at times like this that help can be asked for and given - If we know why.

I keep telling my manager "Don't tell me to do something - Give me a reason why as well and I am more likely to do the job without moaning and telling you to FO".

It is not "Jump" and expect me just to jump without knowing why.
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: GrahamB on January 30, 2020, 04:22:04 PM
Thanks for the update Mark, my sentiments exactly hence I posted as I did. I hope our "supporters" support, Ryan has been outstanding for the club and was building a great relationship with Rory until injured and IMO has been missed.  :scarf:
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Mallard on January 30, 2020, 05:03:24 PM
Going private for an Op isnít cheap.  I guess the waiting list on NHS would have been months.   

Hope the bucket collection raises a good few quid for the lad.  Mark, couldnt the Club put on some kind of fund raiser to help Ryan as well ?  After all he was injured giving his all for the Club?  Now you are full time Iím sure you would have the time to put a little something together.
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 30, 2020, 05:17:37 PM
Going private for an Op isnít cheap.  I guess the waiting list on NHS would have been months.   

Hope the bucket collection raises a good few quid for the lad.  Mark, couldnt the Club put on some kind of fund raiser to help Ryan as well ?  After all he was injured giving his all for the Club? 

That's not a bad idea. Club and Supporters doing something together!

How about a draw for a VIP day for two, signed shirt etc?

 :scarf:

Other suggestions?
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: TonyM on January 30, 2020, 05:57:29 PM
Going private for an Op isnít cheap.  I guess the waiting list on NHS would have been months.   

Hope the bucket collection raises a good few quid for the lad.  Mark, couldnt the Club put on some kind of fund raiser to help Ryan as well ?  After all he was injured giving his all for the Club?  Now you are full time Iím sure you would have the time to put a little something together.

Nothing against Ryan at all but I would hope Mark has better things to do with his time and any 'money raising ideas' have to go to the club first and foremost.  Maybe if an individual fan wanted to do something along the lines suggested by B&G then fair enough that would be between them and Ryan but the club is clearly short of volunteers to run it's 'own' fundraising at present. 

I personally don't think the club should be drawn into raising money for individual players as where do you set the bar on 'deserving cases'?  For example, Michael Clunan has been out for a good while now too.
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 30, 2020, 07:07:16 PM

.................. the club is clearly short of volunteers to run it's 'own' fundraising at present. 


I wasn't aware of that.   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Grissles Oleary on January 30, 2020, 07:10:18 PM
Maybe a joint initiative form the Trust/FOTL,another popular quiz maybe? :dontknow:
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 30, 2020, 07:18:45 PM
I personally don't think the club should be drawn into raising money for individual players as where do you set the bar on 'deserving cases'?  For example, Michael Clunan has been out for a good while now too.

That is a fair point to make.

Also, do we know that any financial help is required any way?

Surely a semi professional footballer has an income protection policy in place, and likewise with the Club, they have a hospital/medical plan in place for such a valuable asset as Ryan!  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Mallard on January 30, 2020, 07:26:01 PM
Maybe it is deemed that Ryan is a more deserving case of a collection that Michael Clunan.  I guess Clunan wasnít in need of a private treatment and was dealt with on the NHS. 

Still think the Club should be doing more than a bucket collection. 
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on January 30, 2020, 10:30:59 PM
Going private for an Op isnít cheap.  I guess the waiting list on NHS would have been months.   

Hope the bucket collection raises a good few quid for the lad.  Mark, couldnt the Club put on some kind of fund raiser to help Ryan as well ?  After all he was injured giving his all for the Club?  Now you are full time Iím sure you would have the time to put a little something together.

Nothing against Ryan at all but I would hope Mark has better things to do with his time and any 'money raising ideas' have to go to the club first and foremost.  Maybe if an individual fan wanted to do something along the lines suggested by B&G then fair enough that would be between them and Ryan but the club is clearly short of volunteers to run it's 'own' fundraising at present. 

I personally don't think the club should be drawn into raising money for individual players as where do you set the bar on 'deserving cases'?  For example, Michael Clunan has been out for a good while now too.

Got to disagree here with the idea that fundraising should go to the club first and foremost. The manís played 9 years for the club, and needs support from the supporters. Those saying surely he had sufficient insurance in place to cover his losses; the existence of the collection would appear to negate that proposition. The club succeeding is great, but if weíre to be a community club, that involves caring for the community at the club.
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: KES80 on January 31, 2020, 09:22:02 AM
Agree L L, the fans ideally should show the same spirit amongst themselves and with the squad, that the management and squad share. Nothing is more important than the players within the squad...they are the ones that have got the club where it is.
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: westlynnmike on January 31, 2020, 11:30:33 AM
I feel I have opened a can of worms by my initial reply.

However, what are the facts/factors behind the decision that Ryan Fryatt's circumstances are deserving of financial support by means of a bucket collection?

Already mentioned has been Michael Clunan and there have been and are other players who have been/are "out of action" for some time. Are their circumstances different?

Whoever started this Bucket Collection needs to justify rather than just start it up. A little forethought would have negated all this speculation, argument and counter-argument.

Prior - Planning -and - Preparation - Prevents - Poor - Performance  :oldman"
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Grissles Oleary on January 31, 2020, 11:41:17 AM
Many sportsmen take out insurance to cover them for injury,and normally the premium they pay would cover the short term injury? Many policies will only cover up to a certain amount,and maybe his insurance has reached the limit? Being a sportsman it is very difficult to judge what cover you would need? :dontknow:
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: KES80 on January 31, 2020, 12:46:49 PM
WLM, I feel you made a fair point.
Clubs generally are quite poor in providing updates on injuries. It would be nice to get updates on them more often eg how is Micheal Clunan getting on....and certainly if there is to be a collection, then sufficient detail needs to be "out there"
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: westlynnmike on January 31, 2020, 01:19:29 PM
WLM, I feel you made a fair point.
Clubs generally are quite poor in providing updates on injuries. It would be nice to get updates on them more often eg how is Micheal Clunan getting on....and certainly if there is to be a collection, then sufficient detail needs to be "out there"

Thanks KES80.
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 31, 2020, 02:10:06 PM
WLM, I feel you made a fair point.
Clubs generally are quite poor in providing updates on injuries. It would be nice to get updates on them more often eg how is Micheal Clunan getting on....and certainly if there is to be a collection, then sufficient detail needs to be "out there"

Thanks KES80.

 :clap:
Title: Re: Ryan Fryatt
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