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Title: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Mallard on March 08, 2020, 11:07:59 AM
After a great week ( 4 points on the Road), itís a long awaited return to The Walks on Tuesday night.  Canít see us slipping up Here and expect to see us return to the top of the table ( how good does that sound) and with 3 games in hand.

Can see IC having a bit of a tinker again to rest up certain players.  Maybe Jarv, Gash, Hendo. 

Be interesting to see if the CV has any affect on the gate for Tuesday. Also there is a Premier League/EFL meeting on Monday to see what they will do with regard to supporters coming to games.  I guess the Non League game will follow their lead.

Fingers crossed we get some Football back at the Walls on Tuesday, but not at any cost.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: little John on March 08, 2020, 11:23:31 AM
Never underestimate the opposition, they just beat Chester.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: dillydilly on March 08, 2020, 01:43:18 PM
I agree with Mr. Mallardís choice of who to rest, and all in this squad should be aware they will again ďresume dutyĒ in no time at all.  Southwell needs a start, and has had some outstanding performances at this level.  Would also like to see Carey and Kelly back, and given some responsibility in the Bradford game.  Certainly agree with the belief that Bradford wonít be easy, as demonstrated by their victory over Chester, but Iím not tech-savvy enough to be able to look back to see who posted it !  I shall advise IC on the team selection for the game later in the week.......
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Mallard on March 08, 2020, 01:52:52 PM
For sure Bradford canít be under estimated and Iím sure they wonít be, but they are bottom of the League for a reason.  We have to make Tuesday count otherwise it lessens the result at Gateshead. 

Resting players is a must with 3 games coming in 7 days.  We have a squad now of 19, including now Ryan Fryatt who played his 2nd game back on Saturday.   That means 3 player wonít even make the squad each game.    Nice position for IC to be in.  Wouldnít be surprised to see Fox back in the line-up on Tuesday either.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: westlynnmike on March 08, 2020, 02:23:57 PM
We have missed Nathan Fox doing his wing back attacking r.ole. Think Ryan Fryatt needs more game time in Reserves and then subs bench for a while.

Hawkins is not getting into squad and might benefit going out on loan to keep him game fit.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: dillydilly on March 08, 2020, 02:25:47 PM
Yes... mustnít forget Fox    Not many could have come in and make us not regret the loss of laser seasonís full-backs.  I actually think that, despite the common wish toincrease squad size and consequent options, we may have slightly too many players.  We donít want anyone feeling frustration at not getting enough chances....
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: KES80 on March 08, 2020, 09:11:37 PM
Understand where you are coming from re frustration.
I guess after playing Saturday, then Tuesday, then Saturday, when the match v Gloucester comes round on Monday, only 2 days later, having the option of almost fielding a completely fresh eleven to the one that played two days before, may be a really valuable option.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Non League on March 09, 2020, 12:15:44 PM
All about the tempo. Lynn start of well like they did against Gateshead and vast majority of games this season, it'll be job done (3-0) at half time and players can be rested up further. Go into with a slow tempo thinking result will come because of gap between the sides, a shock will happen as Chester showed when they didn't approach game in the right manner. Was a scrappy affair at their place earlier in season too.

1100 fans, 3-0 win.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Mallard on March 09, 2020, 01:34:38 PM
Spot on Non League.  When we play with a high tempo and pass the ball with intent we are a bloody good side.   I canít see Bradford coming with much of an attacking plan so it is up to us to move them all over the pitch at speed.  Hopefully the pitch will allow us to really zip the ball about.   

Hopefully be more than 1100 there as Mark Hearle has said the online sakes have gone well which is always a good litmus test of how big the gate will be. 
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: long suffering linnet on March 09, 2020, 11:23:13 PM
We have missed Nathan Fox doing his wing back attacking r.ole. Think Ryan Fryatt needs more game time in Reserves and then subs bench for a while.

Hawkins is not getting into squad and might benefit going out on loan to keep him game fit.
Have We missed Fox with Barrows and Jones at full back.He is a decent player but those that have come in are his equal atleast.With the amount of games we have coming up I doubt very much Hawkins will be loaned.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: long suffering linnet on March 09, 2020, 11:24:49 PM
I agree with Mr. Mallardís choice of who to rest, and all in this squad should be aware they will again ďresume dutyĒ in no time at all.  Southwell needs a start, and has had some outstanding performances at this level.  Would also like to see Carey and Kelly back, and given some responsibility in the Bradford game.  Certainly agree with the belief that Bradford wonít be easy, as demonstrated by their victory over Chester, but Iím not tech-savvy enough to be able to look back to see who posted it !  I shall advise IC on the team selection for the game later in the week.......
Southwell started at Leamington.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Paulos on March 10, 2020, 02:12:01 PM
Let's hope this high winds does one for tonight's game, was just in town and got blown down the street.
Wouldn't mind them starting with Southwell tonight again and resting the Gash man however when they did this at leamington he played deeper than a regular striker and the defence still kept pumping the ball up in the air to marriot who of course isn't the tallest, think especially with this wind they need to keep the ball on the ground tonight.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Nigel1505 on March 10, 2020, 04:00:07 PM
Match commentary on Radio Norfolk.  :scarf:
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: TonyM on March 10, 2020, 05:11:39 PM
DD, I think its fair to say Fox has come in and done a decent job although I think he is a good way off FBT (as are most left backs in this league).  Think him and Burrows offer different things - Burrows has the pace but Fox gives the team a better shape going forward, that said tonight I would play Kelly on the left hand side of a 3-4-1-2.  Agree with others to start with Southwell but would like to see him justify his place with a performance rather than being an option to give Gash / Marriott a breather.

My team (and I am sure IC will have different ideas)
Street
Ward, Smith, McAuley
Jones, Richards, Payne, Kelly
Carey
Southwell, Marriott
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on March 10, 2020, 06:15:54 PM
DD, I think its fair to say Fox has come in and done a decent job although I think he is a good way off FBT (as are most left backs in this league).  Think him and Burrows offer different things - Burrows has the pace but Fox gives the team a better shape going forward, that said tonight I would play Kelly on the left hand side of a 3-4-1-2.  Agree with others to start with Southwell but would like to see him justify his place with a performance rather than being an option to give Gash / Marriott a breather.

My team (and I am sure IC will have different ideas)
Street
Ward, Smith, McAuley
Jones, Richards, Payne, Kelly
Carey
Southwell, Marriott

Iíf be tempted to go the other way, and play Gash and Southwell from the start.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: dillydilly on March 10, 2020, 07:54:33 PM
I liked Pauliís idea on this one - on the ground and Southwell to start, so MG for a rest....  Loughbroís team looks good, , but I never like 3 CHs.  However, at home we have the team to win using any selection, unless weíre all under-estimating Bradford - they must be decent to beat Chester, albeit at home.  Home and awayy I always want an attacking selection because a top-heavydefensive line-up lets the opponents attack more.  We need to get up their end more, if youíll pardon the expression ! ......
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: little John on March 10, 2020, 09:42:11 PM
Never underestimate the opposition, they just beat Chester.
Told you.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: KES80 on March 10, 2020, 10:02:02 PM
Worst result of the season and such a poor result in so many ways...could have knocked back York and gone top tonight with 3 games in hand, instead they have given York and Boston heart.
Still I have to remind myself that this squad have done brilliantly this season and for part timers this run in is a tough ask.
Can they pick it up again and get a run together to cross the line or are they going to stutter towards the play offs...only time will tell.
IMO an over reliance on Power and feel that the arrival of Southwell and Power seems to have upset the balance of the front 3 and the team in general.
Lynn need to find an effective way to play against these lower  placed uncompromising sides in strong winds and heavy pitch conditions.
Lynn have still to go to
Kettering, Hereford, Curzon, Gloucester etc.....they will all be similar styles to tonight.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: birch95 on March 10, 2020, 10:31:13 PM
Out fought. Out run........got what they deserved...fully justified home defeat, having said that the Bradford players and staff were too blame 100% for the melee at the end😈  1200 crowd 👏👏  on to saturday #vitalgame
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Mallard on March 10, 2020, 11:18:55 PM
Forget the result.  The biggest worry was the performance.  Canít believe what Iíve just watched.
IC has always said this squad finds ways of winning.   Tonight they could find a way to create a single chance

I really canít remember the last time I saw a performance like that from a Kings Lynn team at the Walks.

Players should be ashamed to pick up their wages for that tonight. Stephen Cleeve mentions the cash flow situation at the Club.  The guy puts in so much and the players should offer to forego any payment for that tonight
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Paulos on March 11, 2020, 12:33:05 AM
Forget the result.  The biggest worry was the performance.  Canít believe what Iíve just watched.
IC has always said this squad finds ways of winning.   Tonight they could find a way to create a single chance

I really canít remember the last time I saw a performance like that from a Kings Lynn team at the Walks.

Players should be ashamed to pick up their wages for that tonight. Stephen Cleeve mentions the cash flow situation at the Club.  The guy puts in so much and the players should offer to forego any payment for that tonight

They played exactly the same at Leamington we could not believe when IC said after that game that we "bossed it" we never had a shot all game there either, don't know what it is other than midweek curse!? Are these other teams all full timers whereas lynn payers play after bwing at work? Am trying hard to find an excuse.
We really shouldn't moan though this season has been a dream, it's just disappointing when we know how they can play.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: m a hill on March 11, 2020, 05:16:57 AM
Mallard never heard such a load of Tosh B P A  had a game plan and they did a job on us so we move on but to say they shouldnít draw their wages is discussing
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Stan on March 11, 2020, 06:00:14 AM
Mallard never heard such a load of Tosh B P A  had a game plan and they did a job on us so we move on but to say they shouldnít draw their wages is discussing
I agree. It was bad enough hearing booing at the ground without it cropping up on here too!
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: westlynnmike on March 11, 2020, 08:01:31 AM
Bradford (PA) didn't let us settle. We do not play a "packed defence" sort of game and we got stretched and gaps appeared. BPA were not afraid of having shots from range and one went in 0 - 1.

A big and physical side they pushed their weight about and shoulder charges were the tactics used - now, shoulder to shoulder is OK when playing for the ball but last night it was more like wrestling. Gashy was being man-handled from the start. BPA pressed up tight and went after every ball. Their team played good football with the ball and marked tight without it. BPA do not seem to be the same team who have been the "whipping boys of the league".

Where the hell is Nathan Fox  :dontknow: Lynn played Simon Power on the Right Wing 1st half and swopped him to the Left in the 2nd. Ross Barrows was playing Left Back but it is not his natural position. Sonney Carey was not effective at No11 - why was Hendo in the starting line-up  :dontknow:

As previously mentioned, the introduction of Southwell and Power seems to have unsettled/unbalanced the team and pushe others either out or shifted their positions.

Ryan Hawkins might have given us speed down the right (with Power on the Left) and his runs into the box might have given us other opportunities (drawing fouls is his speciality  :laughcry:

Not a good night at the office but getting that game out of the way Ian Culverhouse will need to look hard at the Line-Up and Tactics for Saturday.

Keep The Faith   :comeon: :comeon: :scarf: :scarf: :scarf: :comeon: :comeon:
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: TonyM on March 11, 2020, 08:29:52 AM
Fair result, I don't think BPA were 'overly physical', we have certainly played against worse but we never moved the ball with any real intent and the change in formation / tactics to accommodate Power at home was there for all to see again - two defeats in two at the Walks with some common themes.  First 10 mins of both games we went long then struggled like hell when that didn't work to get any sort of foothold in midfield, effectively playing with a man short in there and the tight, passing game that has served us so well this season abandoned in favour of knocking it to channels / focus on Power.  Last night was made worse by playing Power on the right which restricted Jones and that, compounded with Burrows having a very poor game at left back it made us very, very one dimensional.  We have three naturally left footed players - Kelly & Payne on the bench and Fox not even in the squad again, somehow we need to find a balance.

As IC said in the interview we can carry one or two but not five or six having poor nights, lets hope he too learns and changes things up for Saturday, we haven't become a bad team overnight but keep playing that way and we will become one.

Also think the melee at the end will cost us too and obviously Birch doesn't stand anywhere near me as no way were BPA 100% to blame
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: dillydilly on March 11, 2020, 08:55:52 AM
Didnít see the game so canít really comment, but going to anyway !  We all have our own convictions, including IC.  Mine is that attack is the best form of defence, because while itís up their end, it isnít up ours - (yes, still room for humour !). But that only works if we flood back en masse when we lose the ball, so itís hard work.  On paper, last nightís team had efficiency and solidity written all over it, but lacked enough ďslipperinessĒ to unlock a packed and determined defence.  Not having seen the game, I canít tell if that (what I call) slipperiness was what was lacking, so Iíll shut up and go get some breakfast !.....  But, look, every team hits a bad patch, even York and KL !  Start again on Saturday - York have put their ďHerefordĒ behind them....
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Linnet on March 11, 2020, 08:58:46 AM
Mallard never heard such a load of Tosh B P A  had a game plan and they did a job on us so we move on but to say they shouldnít draw their wages is discussing
I agree. It was bad enough hearing booing at the ground without it cropping up on here too!

So you were there this time Stan, then? Why shouldn't we boo or shout , we quite rightly applaud and cheer when they play well. We are entitled to show our true feelings either way . We can't just say" Oh bad luck chaps , try again".
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: dillydilly on March 11, 2020, 01:01:15 PM
I didnít see the game, but can imagine that TonyM is right in not thinking BPA werenít over-physical.  I havenít yet seen a side relying on physicality in this league, and if we prepare  and select to compete with it, we would be barking up the wrong tree.  There are lots of cliches in football that I believe are just latest bandwagonners.
ďStrengthĒ is often said by big-name pundits when the playback regularly shows no contact at all !  ďwinning a foulĒ is another.  I donít believe any player ever does that...  ďHere you are, take a kick at my leg.  It might ruin my career but itíll be worth it for a free kick to my teamĒ. Donít think so !  Thereís just a few pointers to take our minds off the worst result of the season.  Roll on Saturday !  Plenty more pointers, if wanted !!!
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Stan on March 11, 2020, 01:40:26 PM
Mallard never heard such a load of Tosh B P A  had a game plan and they did a job on us so we move on but to say they shouldnít draw their wages is discussing
I agree. It was bad enough hearing booing at the ground without it cropping up on here too!

So you were there this time Stan, then? Why shouldn't we boo or shout , we quite rightly applaud and cheer when they play well. We are entitled to show our true feelings either way . We can't just say" Oh bad luck chaps , try again".
In what way do you think that booing helps the team that you are supporting?
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Linnet on March 11, 2020, 05:10:17 PM
Hopefully Stan, if they know we are not satisfied they will try hard to better next time, or have you never been given a good taking to for under performing ! Ah probably not, you are so perfect of course, sorry. Lying by not expressing that dissatisfaction won't help them either.  If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always got !
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Stan on March 11, 2020, 05:31:27 PM
Hopefully Stan, if they know we are not satisfied they will try hard to better next time, or have you never been given a good taking to for under performing ! Ah probably not, you are so perfect of course, sorry. Lying by not expressing that dissatisfaction won't help them either.  If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always got !
Well, I think you'll find that King's Lynn's manager doesn't agree with you.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Linnet on March 11, 2020, 05:34:52 PM
On the contrary hes has changed much at the club since coming back, so he certainly doesn't sit on his laurels but always looks to progress. Otherwise the club wouldn't be sitting where they are now ,so more power ( no pun intended) to his elbow.
For good measure, he also showed his dissatisfaction several times during last night's match He was clearly exasperated at times.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Stan on March 11, 2020, 05:40:11 PM
On the contrary hes has changed much at the club since coming back, so he certainly doesn't sit on his laurels but always looks to progress. Otherwise the club wouldn't be sitting where they are now ,so more power ( no pun intended) to his elbow.
For good measure, he also showed his dissatisfaction several times during last night's match He was clearly exasperated at times.
Go on YouTube and watch his post match interview.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: mike20382 on March 11, 2020, 05:58:51 PM
Hopefully Stan, if they know we are not satisfied they will try hard to better next time, or have you never been given a good taking to for under performing ! Ah probably not, you are so perfect of course, sorry. Lying by not expressing that dissatisfaction won't help them either.  If you always do what you have always done, you will always get what you have always got !
The only booing i did at half time was towards rhat big fairy the Bradford number six. Spent a long time writhing around without ever being touched. See no point booing Lynn would hope they  know how badly they pmayed
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: jesuslinnet on March 12, 2020, 12:59:15 AM
Booing really serves no purpose.
The players already knew that wasn't up to their high standards.
They can put it right Saturday.
Get behind the team, they've been fantastic for most of the season, and they really need us all behind them now.
COYL!
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Linnet on March 12, 2020, 08:03:41 AM
On the contrary hes has changed much at the club since coming back, so he certainly doesn't sit on his laurels but always looks to progress. Otherwise the club wouldn't be sitting where they are now ,so more power ( no pun intended) to his elbow.
For good measure, he also showed his dissatisfaction several times during last night's match He was clearly exasperated at times.
Go on YouTube and watch his post match interview.
I have Stan He can't expect us to be applauding the team all the time If they play poorly yo can still express your feelings We are not robots. We can make up our own minds and are not controlled by IC's diktats
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: westlynnmike on March 12, 2020, 08:10:30 AM
As the song goes:

"I say it best when I say nothing at all".

As for the physical comments I have made - all out shoulder charges designed to barge the opposition player off their feet is over-the-top physical. Leaning shoulder to shoulder is OK.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: westlynnmike on March 12, 2020, 08:37:44 AM
Fair result, I don't think BPA were 'overly physical', we have certainly played against worse but we never moved the ball with any real intent and the change in formation / tactics to accommodate Power at home was there for all to see again - two defeats in two at the Walks with some common themes.  First 10 mins of both games we went long then struggled like hell when that didn't work to get any sort of foothold in midfield, effectively playing with a man short in there and the tight, passing game that has served us so well this season abandoned in favour of knocking it to channels / focus on Power.  Last night was made worse by playing Power on the right which restricted Jones and that, compounded with Burrows having a very poor game at left back it made us very, very one dimensional.  We have three naturally left footed players - Kelly & Payne on the bench and Fox not even in the squad again, somehow we need to find a balance.

As IC said in the interview we can carry one or two but not five or six having poor nights, lets hope he too learns and changes things up for Saturday, we haven't become a bad team overnight but keep playing that way and we will become one.

Also think the melee at the end will cost us too and obviously Birch doesn't stand anywhere near me as no way were BPA 100% to blame

OK TonyM, what was the ruckus all about? What happened?
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: westlynnmike on March 12, 2020, 09:27:45 AM
HIGHLIGHTS: (courtesy of Bevan Asher)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MUFOHp53kM
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Coastal linnet on March 12, 2020, 11:26:37 AM
Good highlights. Looking at this it didn't look too bad!!. The biggest disappointments for me on Tuesday evening were:
1. The lack of impact made by the substitutes.
2. The lack of discipline at the end of the game.

Bradford P.A. played well and actually looked fitter than Lynn!

There is a lack of consistency in all the Conference North teams this season. If we win on Saturday and Monday we will be top of the league. If Altrincham do us a favour against York it will be sooner!
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Stan on March 12, 2020, 01:37:48 PM
On the contrary hes has changed much at the club since coming back, so he certainly doesn't sit on his laurels but always looks to progress. Otherwise the club wouldn't be sitting where they are now ,so more power ( no pun intended) to his elbow.
For good measure, he also showed his dissatisfaction several times during last night's match He was clearly exasperated at times.
Go on YouTube and watch his post match interview.
I have Stan He can't expect us to be applauding the team all the time If they play poorly yo can still express your feelings We are not robots. We can make up our own minds and are not controlled by IC's diktats
Carry on booing then, if you feel so entitled. I imagine other fans will show you how they feel about it.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Stan on March 12, 2020, 01:55:07 PM
Fair result, I don't think BPA were 'overly physical', we have certainly played against worse but we never moved the ball with any real intent and the change in formation / tactics to accommodate Power at home was there for all to see again - two defeats in two at the Walks with some common themes.  First 10 mins of both games we went long then struggled like hell when that didn't work to get any sort of foothold in midfield, effectively playing with a man short in there and the tight, passing game that has served us so well this season abandoned in favour of knocking it to channels / focus on Power.  Last night was made worse by playing Power on the right which restricted Jones and that, compounded with Burrows having a very poor game at left back it made us very, very one dimensional.  We have three naturally left footed players - Kelly & Payne on the bench and Fox not even in the squad again, somehow we need to find a balance.

As IC said in the interview we can carry one or two but not five or six having poor nights, lets hope he too learns and changes things up for Saturday, we haven't become a bad team overnight but keep playing that way and we will become one.

Also think the melee at the end will cost us too and obviously Birch doesn't stand anywhere near me as no way were BPA 100% to blame
Best summing up for me. Trying to accommodate Power is the main cause of Lynn's lack of form lately.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Mallard on March 12, 2020, 03:14:22 PM
Worked well for us at home to York.   However going on Tuesday nights game it seemed we were trying to feed Power a lot of the time then expected him to pull Rabbits out of a hat when surrounded by 2 Bradford players.   

Have to agree with Tony re- Barrows on the left.  Had a shocker.  Very much right footed so which  foot did the Bradford player take him on ?  Yep on his outside everytime.   What has Fox done that sees the best left foot we have, to not even make the bench ?
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Stan on March 12, 2020, 03:53:31 PM
Power's pace and skill took him into good forward positions but he rarely got past the York right back. That's why Culverhouse told him to go on the right back's inside which got some joy in the second half.
Title: Re: Bradford PA at home
Post by: Non League on March 12, 2020, 04:21:07 PM
Have to say, BPA came with a game plan and executed it to perfection. You could see what their intent was. They sat two players on Richards/Jarvis which meant they couldn't receive the ball in the middle (pitch was bobble as hell which didn't help), this meant it went to the full backs quite often who had to clip it long as there was no option in the middle. Easily contained throughout that option, because Marriott/Carey couldn't get into the game at all. The breakdown in communication for their goal is inexcusable.

They sat off a lot more 2nd half where the CMs then were able to get on the ball more, but the quality outwide was very poor and delivers bad. Power had a great chance after good play in 2nd half, and just as you thought he would fire into the goal from edge of the box, the ball bobbled up 2 foot and meant it hit the moon.

Southwell will need a run of starts to show his ability, coming off bench late on in those sorts of games will be hard to make an impact. They're more set up for the other way round, Gash coming off the bench to make the impact.