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Title: Play off dates ?
Post by: Linnet1947 on June 19, 2020, 01:04:41 PM
When will the play offs take place ? I hope York City get promoted. They have the crowd and a new ground.
I went to York City last autumn, and was impressed with their support.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Mallard on June 19, 2020, 02:01:39 PM
I heard all the National League play off games are being covered by BT.  Hopefully some of the NLN & NLS gamers will be covered by BT or if not available through live streaming.    We need our fix of Non League Football.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: admin on June 20, 2020, 07:36:36 PM
Gateshead are expecting their game against Brackley to be 18th or 19th July.
Other dates mentioned sem-final, 25th;  final 1st August.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Mallard on June 21, 2020, 05:35:14 PM
Seems BT Sports might be showing all the play-off games from all 3 Leagues.   Should help the Clubs with the costs of testing and playing behind closed doors.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: admin on June 24, 2020, 02:06:45 PM

@Ollie_Bayliss

Clubs have been told rough dates for National League North & South playoffs:

Eliminators: Sat/Sun 18/19 Jul
Semi finals: Sat/Sun 25/26 Jul
Finals: Sat/Sun 1/2 Aug

BT Sport is discussing showing games.

Playoff dates for the National League will be slightly different.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: KES80 on June 26, 2020, 08:45:36 PM
I fancy Brackley or Alty to win promotion.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on June 26, 2020, 09:43:45 PM
I fancy Brackley or Alty to win promotion.

I kinda hope it's Boston that go up, if only for one nearish away game a season.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: KES80 on June 30, 2020, 11:41:33 AM
Chester Fc become the final club of the 12 to confirm participation in N/S play offs. It was doubtful whether they could afford to, but players and staff have agreed to return their wages for the play offs to the club, to enable them to participate. Will be tough for them without Asante, but part of me hopes they get promotion.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 30, 2020, 12:02:00 PM
Chester Fc become the final club of the 12 to confirm participation in N/S play offs. It was doubtful whether they could afford to, but players and staff have agreed to return their wages for the play offs to the club, to enable them to participate. Will be tough for them without Asante, but part of me hopes they get promotion.

Big thumbs up to the Chester players for agreeing to this. A case of kissing the Badge rather than the cheque book. Its really good to see. I wish Chester the best of luck, if only due to the positive attitude of the players.

 :scarf:
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: TonyM on June 30, 2020, 01:18:25 PM
Great example set by the Chester players, maybe those a bit higher up the food chain at the PFA could take note.  Still want Boston to win the playoffs for selfish reasons (assuming we can go to football by the time the Christmas fixtures roll round) but wouldn't be upset to see the Chester players / trust join us in the NL.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Mallard on June 30, 2020, 02:22:03 PM
Have to agree Tony.  Seems a massive togetherness over at Chester with than fans having raised 84k plus with in two weeks of their fund launch.  Any lessons KL could learn or be prepared to learn from that ?

Like you I would love to see Boston go up.  Lynn home one week, over to Boston the next.  Subject to admission costs to be acceptable on both.

Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 30, 2020, 03:18:42 PM
Subject to admission costs to be acceptable on both.

Is it this week that we are supposed to be hearing about admission price?

Someone told me that the maximum charge The League allows is £22, so if that is the case my guess is that's what it will be.

If not, I wouldn't think it would go below £20.   :dontknow:

 :scarf:
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Mallard on June 30, 2020, 03:24:43 PM
Yes SC said in his blog he was working on season ticket costs and general admission at the weekend.

£22 sounds about right for a seat in the stand.  Thatís only a fiver up on last season ( think I paid £17?).

Last season, ok we paid top dollar but in return we got a top of the League side.  Fair exchange I would say.    If we are struggling in the bottom 6 next season I do wonder what kind of gates we will enjoy at £22 a pop.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 30, 2020, 03:33:49 PM
Yes SC said in his blog he was working on season ticket costs and general admission at the weekend.

£22 sounds about right for a seat in the stand.  Thatís only a fiver up on last season ( think I paid £17?).

Last season, ok we paid top dollar but in return we got a top of the League side.  Fair exchange I would say.    If we are struggling in the bottom 6 next season I do wonder what kind of gates we will enjoy at £22 a pop.

Good question, but there's another one. What size gates should we expect if we are in top half of table if the price is set at £22?
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: admin on July 04, 2020, 01:41:32 PM
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Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Mallard on July 12, 2020, 06:00:31 PM
All the play off games from the National League ( inc North and South Divisions) will be available to watch via live streaming through  Sportstrader with BT Sports production.   You will be able to access the games via the National League website.   The prices have not been fixed yet but should be announced early this week.

The National League games will be available on BT Sports as well.( excluding North and South Divisions) These commence next Friday night. Times of all games will staggered and not at the times originally advertised.

Will be N interesting experiment to see if fans will buy into them.  I hope they keep the costs sensible for the fans in these tough times.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 12, 2020, 07:13:48 PM
Apparently our Chairman has predicted that there will be 40,000 people watch the York game at a tenner a head and thatís where future is.

Canít see the 40,000 myself but paying to watch a game on line could become common practice for some in the future. The price they are prepared to pay will be interesting.

One of the problems I can see is the games will obviously be broadcast to a worldwide audience.

How many will want to tune in to a Lynn or York match when for the same price they can tune into a Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal or United?
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on July 12, 2020, 07:32:04 PM
Apparently our Chairman has predicted that there will be 40,000 people watch the York game at a tenner a head and thatís where future is.

Canít see the 40,000 myself but paying to watch a game on line could become common practice for some in the future. The price they are prepared to pay will be interesting.

One of the problems I can see is the games will obviously be broadcast to a worldwide audience.

How many will want to tune in to a Lynn or York match when for the same price they can tune into a Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal or United?

40,000 does seem optimistic for a team with an average attendance of 2700. Might be an uptick because itís the playoffs, but 5,000 seems a more reasonable figure. Have to remember as well, that a family who wouldíve bought 4 tickets and spent money on concessions, will instead spend £10. Likely to become a minimal additional stream, rather than the way forward. For a point of contrast, what is the average number of people viewing the live-text for matches on this website?
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Mallard on July 12, 2020, 07:55:13 PM
I guess the hope is that general fans of Non League Football would be kern to tune in. 

The National League series consists of some 15 games in total so at a tenner a throw might put some off.

Personally I will watch the Northern Section games (5 of) IF the price is right.   The National League top Division games ( 5 of) I can pick up on BT Sports.   The likes of George Thompson at Harrogate and Cameron King at Halifax should be involved.,

Letís not forgot I would assume each hone clubs local Radio station will be broadcasting live as well.

40,000 at a tenner, where does Mr Cleeve get these stats from or is he just plucking them out of thin air ?
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: KES80 on July 12, 2020, 08:00:18 PM
I personally think that tv for the national league could do very well, if it finds it's niche. Would think the programme/stream/whatever, would need to be on an evening when there is no other Uk football being shown.....one live game played on that evening with highlights from the rest of the matches played the previous Saturday.....a bit like the Italian football offering on Channel 4  a few years back on a Sunday.

Lots of people prefer the non league offering....decent standard, no prima donnas, no VAR..........the playoffs could be a good lead up to it, if they are well supported.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Mallard on July 12, 2020, 08:06:29 PM
KES. BT already offer that.  Most Saturdays they either have a 12.30 or a 5.30 live game from The National League.   They also do a highlights programme in the week covering every game from the National League

Ex Linnet Grant Holt is often the Pundit at the live games.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: jackdaw on July 13, 2020, 07:00:18 AM
Does anyone remember in the 50's senior amateur games televised in black and white ? 2-5000 gates at this level as players could earn more
in a day job than they could by turning Pro. plus exceptional expenses.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: KES80 on July 13, 2020, 01:44:02 PM
KES. BT already offer that.  Most Saturdays they either have a 12.30 or a 5.30 live game from The National League.   They also do a highlights programme in the week covering every game from the National League







Needs re packaging and scheduling so it's not in competition with other Elite Football offerings
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 13, 2020, 01:54:17 PM
Lots of people prefer the non league offering....decent standard, no prima donnas, no VAR..........the playoffs could be a good lead up to it, if they are well supported.

I think you may well be correct. The question I would ask though is, at what price?

Fiver?

If its anymore than that, after the initial flurry of activity due to lack of football and the novelty factor has worn of, I think the interest could well tail off.

A cheaper, convenient and occasional alternative rather than a replacement.   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Mallard on July 13, 2020, 03:51:27 PM
Be interesting to see where they pitch the price.  Then see what viewing figures they achieve.  With BT doing the filming it should at least be a decent product.  I wonder how Non League Football will look on TV with no crowd in.  Premier League, without crowds has been painful
To watch. ( IMHO)
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: KES80 on July 13, 2020, 08:32:23 PM
Haven't watched a single Prem League game since return from lockdown and can't say I have missed it at all......not really a product that holds much interest for me these days...hugely over rated IMO....... would pay to watch the National League on TV  tho, especially if wages and squad numbers are capped. As to how much, I am not sure, but given travel, a bite to eat and a seat in the stand would be touching £40, maybe even £45 per match at the Walks.....and say I get there 6/7 times a season, that's say £300.......so maybe that for a year, to see the whole season isn't a bad deal. Suspect those who go more often and attend away games as well, might be prepared to pay more for a season TV package.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Mallard on July 15, 2020, 06:51:18 AM
https://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/national-league-north-and-south-play-offs-to-be-li-62657

Starts on Sunday with staggered KO times.   Still no prices though.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Bluboy on July 15, 2020, 01:35:20 PM
https://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/national-league-north-and-south-play-offs-to-be-li-62657

Starts on Sunday with staggered KO times.   Still no prices though.
Think 5.99 a game
6.99 for final or 9.99 both Finals
Or 14.99 all games
On sports pro media
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 15, 2020, 01:47:12 PM
https://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/national-league-north-and-south-play-offs-to-be-li-62657

Starts on Sunday with staggered KO times.   Still no prices though.
Think 5.99 a game
6.99 for final or 9.99 both Finals
Or 14.99 all games
On sports pro media

Thanks Bluboy.



From their website:

"With fans currently unable to attend matches, the service offers supporters options to access games at various price points and the ability to view on connected TVs via Chromecast. Single matches prior to the North and South playoff finals will be priced at UK£5.99 (US$7.56), while each final will cost UK£6.99 (US$8.83) to purchase.

Furthermore, the service will also allow fans to purchase match bundles, including all ten games for UK£14.99 (US$18.93), while a package including the two playoff finals, which are both due to take place on 1st August, have been priced at UK£9.99 (US$12.61)".



All 10 games at £14.99 seems very good, but surely some of the games will be played at the same time?   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Mallard on July 15, 2020, 02:42:17 PM
Has anyone got the link for this ?

The time And date  of the games of North And the South are mirrored.  So really itís a 5 games package but at 3 quid a game ( 14.99 for the bulk purchase) then that is a real bargain.
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: wack on July 15, 2020, 02:48:35 PM
Its on Ollie Bayliss twitter but sorry don't know how to link
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: admin on July 15, 2020, 03:01:09 PM
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/national-league-sportradar-bt-sport-north-south-playoffs-streaming-service
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 15, 2020, 03:19:12 PM
Has anyone got the link for this ?

The time And date  of the games of North And the South are mirrored.  So really itís a 5 games package but at 3 quid a game ( 14.99 for the bulk purchase) then that is a real bargain.
Vanarama National League North (Live streamed)

Sunday 19th July 2020- 1.30pm
Elimination Round- Match A Ė Altrincham vs Chester

Sunday 19th July 2020- 4pm
Elimination Round- Match B Ė Brackley Town vs Gateshead

Saturday 25th July 2020- 3pm
Semi Final Ė York City vs Winner of Match A

Saturday 25th July 2020- 5.30pm
Semi Final Ė Boston United vs Winner of Match B

Saturday 1st August 2020- 3pm
Promotion Final Ė Stadium of highest ranked finalist

Vanarama National League South (Live streamed)

Sunday 19th July 2020- 1.30pm
Elimination Round Ė Match A Ė Slough Town vs Dartford

Sunday 19th July 2020- 4pm
Elimination Round Ė Match B Ė Bath City vs Dorking Wanderers

Saturday 25th July 2020- 3pm
Semi Final Ė Havant & Waterlooville vs Winner of Match A

Saturday 25th July 2020- 5.30pm
Semi Final Ė Weymouth vs Winner of Match B

Saturday 1st August 2020- 3pm
Promotion Final Ė Stadium of highest ranked finalist



https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/national-league-sportradar-bt-sport-north-south-playoffs-streaming-service
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: wack on July 15, 2020, 03:58:03 PM
Thanks b&g
Title: Re: Play off dates ?
Post by: KES80 on July 16, 2020, 06:33:59 PM
Seems to be that you may need a Chromecast dongle to stream the matches (unless your TV has it built in) ???