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Title: Next season's prices
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 15, 2020, 07:47:37 PM
Standing £20.

Earlybird £19 (purchased 6 days in advance)

Season ticket £380 standing.

Outer seats in stand different prices to the ones in the middle.

Middle will be £25. £22 for outer seats, £21 for earlybird. Season tickets will be £575 for middle seats (no discount on this) and  £420 for outer seats..

Presidents Club replaces VIP Club. Price £1200 a season (season ticket for seat in stand, one course hot meal, program, parking space).


All relayed to me via someone listening to Chairmans podcast.

Club website will have all information on the above tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on July 15, 2020, 11:54:13 PM
Standing £20.

Earlybird £19 (purchased 6 days in advance)

Season ticket £380 standing.

Outer seats in stand different prices to the ones in the middle.

Middle will be £25. £22 for outer seats, £21 for earlybird. Season tickets will be £575 for middle seats (no discount on this) and  £420 for outer seats..

Presidents Club replaces VIP Club. Price £1200 a season (season ticket for seat in stand, one course hot meal, program, parking space).


All relayed to me via someone listening to Chairmans podcast.

Club website will have all information on the above tomorrow afternoon.

Well I wonít be getting a season ticket this year. Thatís considerably higher than most league teams.

Was anticipating low £300ís for a seat, not £420.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 06:56:50 AM
Certainly aimed at testing peopleís pocket.  I hope they have got it right.

Think fans will pay those figures if Lynn are going well. If they are bottom 6 then gates might look somewhat different to last season.   

Prices are very much what I was expecting going on previous years figures.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blueboy on July 16, 2020, 08:53:49 AM
Understand why middle section of the stand is more expensive, but why no concession price?
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 09:53:07 AM
I would think the Club thinks they can sell that area out without having to offer the fan any incentive needed to buy a season ticket.    Supply and demand.  Limited amount available so able to charge top dollar without having to give anything back.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blueboy on July 16, 2020, 10:46:05 AM
Not asking for an incentive, but surely common practice to offer reductions for senior citizens and children, especially when tickets are cheaper at a League 1 club just down the road and under 12's go free. Plus the chances are a season ticket holder will not attend every game due to illness, holidays or family commitments and probably 3 home games will be on TV.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Linnet on July 16, 2020, 11:31:28 AM
I would think the Club thinks they can sell that area out without having to offer the fan any incentive needed to buy a season ticket.    Supply and demand.  Limited amount available so able to charge top dollar without having to give anything back.

Hardly limited supply. As I understand it there are between  100 and 150 season ticket holders so plenty of availability. As I am 65 this December that's me screwed. Cheers Mr Cleeve. Peterborough looks even better value and at 2 levels higher
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: TonyM on July 16, 2020, 01:33:49 PM
Well I wonít be getting a season ticket this year. Thatís considerably higher than most league teams.

Was anticipating low £300ís for a seat, not £420.

LL, really unsure how you would get to 'low £300s' for a seated season ticket - £345 equates to £15 per game which would price a seat at £2 less than standing in a league below last year - that is one hell of a discount for a season ticket imo.  Just looked at the Peterborough site and looks like £349 standing, £439 seated but I think they are still in their 'discounted' period.

Since reformation we have had owners who have consistently valued the product at the Walks at the 'top end' of most fans expectations but, certainly under the current owner, we have had to rely on benefactor loans to financially dope our way through the season so something, somewhere doesn't add up.  Personally, I was expecting £20 for standing based on £17 last season at a lower level and the introduction of the Earlybird discount makes buying match-to-match a relatively easy decision.

For those who still want a season ticket, maybe the Trust GDF raffle is the way to go and even if you don't win at least the money will go to developing the Walks
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: jesuslinnet on July 16, 2020, 01:52:02 PM
Concession season ticket £340, an increase of£90 on last season.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blueboy on July 16, 2020, 02:04:47 PM
Why buy a season ticket for the centre block at £575 when with 23 home games at £25= £575, the same as the season ticket.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Linnet on July 16, 2020, 02:46:56 PM
Concession season ticket £340, an increase of£90 on last season.

Are there concessions then? It was £260 before the Warrington game lst year for the stand
If there no concessions it will be an increase of 61% to £420 lets hope there are for the over 65s
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: TonyM on July 16, 2020, 03:09:54 PM
Linnet, there are concession season tickets for the side seating (but not the centre block - yellow seats?) at £380.

So just to rework your maths, this represents a 33% increase (after accounting for the extra games) on the £260 that was the price for Southern League football when we were watching the likes of Royston, Needham Market and St Ives whereas this season coming we will be up against sides who are almost all full-time, hardly comparable?
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Linnet on July 16, 2020, 03:11:45 PM
Ah so there are concessions but still an increase of 46% for the blue seats
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Linnet on July 16, 2020, 03:12:29 PM
still an increase of sizeable proportions
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Linnet on July 16, 2020, 03:13:17 PM
especially as we lost 6 games this last season and no promise of refunds if the season is truncated again
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Linnet on July 16, 2020, 03:14:58 PM
Linnet, there are concession season tickets for the side seating (but not the centre block - yellow seats?) at £380.

So just to rework your maths, this represents a 33% increase (after accounting for the extra games) on the £260 that was the price for Southern League football when we were watching the likes of Royston, Needham Market and St Ives whereas this season coming we will be up against sides who are almost all full-time, hardly comparable?
Tony it was £260 at step 2 last year against York and the like so a big increase for one step up
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 03:42:26 PM
All this talk about being too expensive, letís look at the facts.  Stephen Cleeve has subsided the club since he game in to the tune of circa 500k.  At some point that has to stop.  So now he has pushed back and is seemingly saying if you want top class non League Football at The Walks, then this is the cost.   Itís up to the fans now to decide.

Iíve just listened to his podcast and his comment that even with 1500 season ticket holders this would not match the budget for this season.  That indicates to me that the budget is set at between 400k and 500k. ( extracting the VAT)

Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Linnet on July 16, 2020, 03:57:06 PM
All this talk about being too expensive, letís look at the facts.  Stephen Cleeve has subsided the club since he game in to the tune of circa 500k.  At some point that has to stop.  So now he has pushed back and is seemingly saying if you want top class non League Football at The Walks, then this is the cost.   Itís up to the fans now to decide.

Iíve just listened to his podcast and his comment that even with 1500 season ticket holders this would not match the budget for this season.  That indicates to me that the budget is set at between 400k and 500k. ( extracting the VAT)
Thanks Mallard Indeed we can decide and of course we don't yet have the support of TV payments or large scale commercial support so we can't easily compare like with like but these are the season ticket prices for 19/20 for some Premier League teams

Sheffield Utd £402 Everton £420 Leicester £365 and West Ham £320
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Grissles Oleary on July 16, 2020, 04:10:59 PM
Obviously by whacking the price up by that amount it shows he has little confidence in his commercial team to bring in income? Last season he increased the price,crowds doubled and still not making enough to run? :bankrupt:
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 16, 2020, 04:14:00 PM
Not asking for an incentive, but surely common practice to offer reductions for senior citizens and children, especially when tickets are cheaper at a League 1 club just down the road and under 12's go free. Plus the chances are a season ticket holder will not attend every game due to illness, holidays or family commitments and probably 3 home games will be on TV.

Season ticket at Norwich is £499.50.

I make it a cost per game of £21.73.

Over 65's £14.71, Over 75's £13.28.

As we all know, Norwich games are usually sell outs, irrespective of the level they play at. So I believe it's safe to assume that they don't need to offer these prices just to entice people to the games, but really value their supporters.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 04:29:11 PM
The new Presidents club is an interesting development. £1200 sees a 50% hike in cost.  However they have improved the car park, you get an improved programme.   Plus no more cold buffet.  Now itís a main course hot mean.  No longer from the 3 chefs from the George.  Will the quality drop off? 

The cost per game is just over £52 per game.  So that gives a cost of £27 for Prog, car park and a main meal.   Seems good value for money if the food is decent.

Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: TonyM on July 16, 2020, 04:33:43 PM
Thanks Mallard Indeed we can decide and of course we don't yet have the support of TV payments or large scale commercial support so we can't easily compare like with like but these are the season ticket prices for 19/20 for some Premier League teams

Sheffield Utd £402 Everton £420 Leicester £365 and West Ham £320

As you say, not comparing like with like.  Looking at figures for 17/18 (found in the Guardian online), Leicester match gate receipts account for 8.5% of income, Everton 8.1%, Sheffield Utd not in figures and West Ham changed stadiums that year, but basically adding (or subtracting) £100 from a season ticket isn't going to have a material impact on their total revenue as PL teams are run on TV money, ticket prices are basically whatever someone thinks will fill stadiums so that they have a decent backdrop for the cameras.

At non-league level (even National League where there is a TV deal in place) I would expect matchday revenue to still form a massive proportion of total income so basically the club has little option to 'get what it can' from supporters.  I also think we should stop thinking there are queues of companies out there just waiting to be asked to sponsor the club, particularly in a post-COVID commercial world.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Nemesis on July 16, 2020, 04:41:22 PM
https://fanbanter.co.uk/fans-slam-kings-lynn-for-their-stupidly-expensive-season-ticket-prices/
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 04:55:10 PM
I guess people will look at it in the terms of perceived value for money. They are bound to compare whatís available at the likes of Carrow Road and London Road.  Should that really be the way at looking at things. ?   Maybe more realistic is to think am I Prepared to watch my team play for £19,   Or 16.50 for a season ticket?


I would suggest a successful Lynn team will bring the crowds in.  The problems will come if the team is not successful.   
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Linnet on July 16, 2020, 05:48:08 PM
Mallard  £16.50 per game is only for seniors who have a season ticket
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 06:12:26 PM
Mallard  £16.50 per game is only for seniors who have a season ticket

ADULT: Ground only Ė £380.... by 23 games =16.50 ish.  Unless you have a different abacus to me

Club benefits by the fans handing over the cash early.  The fan benefits by saving 2.50-3.50
Per game.  Win win
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on July 16, 2020, 06:14:57 PM
The match day  ticket price doesnít seem too bad, itís more the relative lack of discount for a season ticket thatís put me off from getting one. £290 for 21 games (was the same proce for seating and standing 19/20) to £420 for 23 is a big leap in one year. Gone from £13.80 per game, saving £3.20 or 18.8% off per game, to £18.26 per game, a saving of £2.74 or 13.4% (If my sums are right). Prices are up, but the discount has also gone down. This differential compares unfavourably with most clubs, whatever the level.

Iíll still go to games, but itís not worth getting the season ticket anymore.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 06:38:55 PM
With England playing Wales at Wembley behind closed doors on Oct 8th.  It does make me wonder when the season will be allowed to start with crowds in.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: m a hill on July 16, 2020, 06:54:36 PM
One of the main reasons I get a season ticket is that I donít have to queue and it also helps the Club
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 07:26:04 PM
Hill, no one could ever doubt your commitment to the Club.  Season ticket holder.  12th man member.  Sponsor of player(s), and no doubt anything else that involves putting your hand in your pocket to give to the Club.    Stephen Cleeve needs more like you.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on July 16, 2020, 07:39:08 PM
With England playing Wales at Wembley behind closed doors on Oct 8th.  It does make me wonder when the season will be allowed to start with crowds in.

You make a good point, if the National Team arenít going to be in front of crowd until October, itís unlikely the National League will be allowed in the ground until at least then, if not later.

The big question is will the NL wait until people can watch before they start, or try and utilise the streaming services and such that are being trialled with the play-offs.

I also wonder how many will be put off coming if they have to wear a mask the whole time; something thatís likely from how the guidance in general has shifted in the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Captain Sensible on July 16, 2020, 08:41:22 PM
Just when you think you've heard and seen it all!
It's been said on quite a few occasions that the only things Mr Cleeve has in is armoury(apart from splashing the dosh around which he has previously said he's not going to continue to do)is the ability to charge top dollar for everything.That sometimes works for a while if a team is being successful,but if they are struggling I really believe you will see a drop in gates and therefore revenue, irrespective of the level they play at.The higher the cost of admission the easier it will be for people to consider missing a few games.
There's been a ridiculous amount of money spent and put in as Directors loans to get us to this level and to me it does not look as if the infrastructure has ever been successfully put in place to allow the Chairman to reduce the amounts he loans to the Club.Don't believe what you're told about it being put in as loans rather than a gift for tax reasons.There's other methods that don't involve loans that also offer tax breaks.Any doubts,just ask the person that stated this how it works!My money's on the answer to that one producing a real little gem!
This is the problem I see with the Sole Benefactor model.When a Club appears to have been built on a foundation of Directors loans and not commercial activity and a Football Club Director wants to,or more likely needs to, stop funding a Club,is often the time when the fun and games begin.The road to success is littered with such examples.Supporters know this but not all want to admit it.
Over the last four years or so we have heard numerous comments about what was going to happen with the Commercial side of our Club,and also who was going to do it.Nothing ever seemed to materialise.The Club obviously needs increased revenue to operate (quote) at the level it now finds itself. If the Chairman no longer wants to or is able to fund the Club as he has been for the last four years, the money has to come from elsewhere.Unless this is generated by Commercial activity or by the Clubs controlled Supporters Club, its always going to fall into the lap of the supporters walking through the gate on match day.That's unless we suddenly score big in the transfer market.
Yes we need the Commercial side to massively up its game.It won't be easy due to several factors but Mark Hearle has to be given the chance to turn it around.We appear to be suffering due to past failures in this area
Mr Cleeve has mentioned what other Supporters donate to their Clubs.We may be in the same league as these other Clubs on the pitch,but we appear to be three divisions below them when it comes to fund raising.This is the domain of the Supporters Club.They need to raise funds commensurate with the level we are now at.We wouldn't expect one of Setch's teams to operate at National League level so equally we can't have the Supporters Club fund raising activites coming up with raised funds more suitable to a Southern League level Club.If they haven't increased the money they have raised at the same rate as the gate prices,player wages etc etc, then something is wrong.If the Club is now paying twice the amount in players wages as it was Four years ago and if the cost of entry has doubled in the last 4 years,then hopefully the fund raising activities have generated twice as much in the same period.I doubt that it has but also doubt we will ever know anyway.
If players wages go up,expenses go up,cost of admission goes up as we go through the leagues,the fund raising activities of both the Commercial department and Supporters Club need to up their game to this level as well.We need the both of these departments to perform like a Bentley and not a Ford Escort,or heaven only knows what the cost of admission will end up at.It's a tough game we in.If people aren't up to the job,then get people in that are.Problem here of course is that there's a chance that these capable people won't be yes men who are more concerned with their positions at Club than anything else..
We have previously been informed that theres a management committee in place which consists of Cleeve,Hearle and Back.It would therefore be unfair to place the unpopular decision to increase the admission prices by such an amount entirely on Cleeves shoulders.That's one for all of us to remember for the future.Joint decisions bring joint responsibility.
I've just noticed a post about face masks.Subjecting such loyal supporters as  Lynn's to these price increases,for some people wearing a mask is probably the right thing to do!
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Dilligaf on July 16, 2020, 08:42:28 PM
I believe it is also mentioned on the podcast that if attendances are restricted to 30% - 40% at the start of the season, then prices could may well be increased......or did I misunderstand this???
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: admin on July 16, 2020, 08:45:14 PM
From Facebook:
King's Lynn Town Football Club

Season ticket pricing update:
Following the announcement of pricing earlier today we wish to announce that seated season tickets in the premier seating areas are priced at £500 and not the originally announced price of £575 for BOTH adults and concessions. We apologise sincerely for the oversight that was made and we have now rectified the prices to reflect this.
We also again wish to state that students, 16 and 17 year old's who wish to attend the games and wish to purchase a cheaper ticket can purchase a season ticket priced at £260 ( £11:30 per game ) for the ground and £300 ( £13:04 per game )  for the blue seated areas in the main stand. We ask that you provide full ID when purchasing your season ticket and remind you that  adult general admission prices will apply to this age bracket on a matchday.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 08:57:52 PM
Good to see that when Stephen and Mark get it wrong they hold their hands up and admit they cocked it right up.

Maybe they should have done it as an early bird offer say until the end of July.   Then it would be down to the fans to grab it.

Come on Mark, Wakey Wakey, lets start thinking outside the box.   
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 16, 2020, 09:14:42 PM
From Facebook:
King's Lynn Town Football Club

Season ticket pricing update:
Following the announcement of pricing earlier today we wish to announce that seated season tickets in the premier seating areas are priced at £500 and not the originally announced price of £575 for BOTH adults and concessions. We apologise sincerely for the oversight that was made and we have now rectified the prices to reflect this.
We also again wish to state that students, 16 and 17 year old's who wish to attend the games and wish to purchase a cheaper ticket can purchase a season ticket priced at £260 ( £11:30 per game ) for the ground and £300 ( £13:04 per game )  for the blue seated areas in the main stand. We ask that you provide full ID when purchasing your season ticket and remind you that  adult general admission prices will apply to this age bracket on a matchday.

If you listen to podcast, you can make your own minds up as to if you think this was an oversight or not.
 :red card:
 :banghead;
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 09:28:08 PM
Itís no oversight itís a straight forward back down.  Fan pressure maybe?
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Grissles Oleary on July 16, 2020, 09:33:30 PM
So i read somewhere that he has said even if he sells 1500 season tickets it still wouldn't be enough to pay the way? That would be nearly £600,000,must be some sort of budget, or s it a case of making the fans pay so they don't have to rely so much on the commercial side? :dontknow:


Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on July 16, 2020, 09:37:07 PM
Itís no oversight itís a straight forward back down.  Fan pressure maybe?

Worth noting that the website is down at the minute. Coincidence?
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 09:43:02 PM
New website launching tomorrow Lough.

Very poor from SC on that backdown though.  He has had plenty of time to work on prices.  Then backs down on them within 24 hours.  Now we have moved up into the big time we need to see a bit more professionalism from the Chairman going forward.   
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2020, 10:13:22 PM
So i read somewhere that he has said even if he sells 1500 season tickets it still wouldn't be enough to pay the way? That would be nearly £600,000,must be some sort of budget, or s it a case of making the fans pay so they don't have to rely so much on the commercial side? :dontknow:

That was what SC and MH were saying on their podcast.  Donít forget season tickets come at all different prices and each has a 20% vat element included in that so 600k worth of season ticket money attracts 100k of VAT so nets it down to 500k.  Based on a 40 week season thatís 12.5k a week playing budget.  Amortise over 20 players comes out with at £625 this Iím sure we have players on a lot more than that.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Linnet on July 16, 2020, 10:40:46 PM
Mallard  £16.50 per game is only for seniors who have a season ticket

ADULT: Ground only Ė £380.... by 23 games =16.50 ish.  Unless you have a different abacus to me

Club benefits by the fans handing over the cash early.  The fan benefits by saving 2.50-3.50
Per game.  Win win
Fair enough Mallard I didn't make clear I was talking about the price for the stand Apologies
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 16, 2020, 10:58:49 PM
So i read somewhere that he has said even if he sells 1500 season tickets it still wouldn't be enough to pay the way? That would be nearly £600,000,must be some sort of budget, or s it a case of making the fans pay so they don't have to rely so much on the commercial side? :dontknow:

I would think that there's more than just the players budget to consider.

The Club carries a large Directors loan. Probably far bigger than the amount shown in the last available accounts.

Maybe there's plans to reduce the amount owed to the Creditor. It could be that there's a need for the Creditors money to be used in other areas :dontknow:

I seem to remember that loans have to be paid back sooner or later.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on July 16, 2020, 11:54:23 PM
New website launching tomorrow Lough.

Very poor from SC on that backdown though.  He has had plenty of time to work on prices.  Then backs down on them within 24 hours.  Now we have moved up into the big time we need to see a bit more professionalism from the Chairman going forward.

My bad
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Non League on July 17, 2020, 09:41:19 AM
With England playing Wales at Wembley behind closed doors on Oct 8th.  It does make me wonder when the season will be allowed to start with crowds in.

Still a long time to that, and I wouldn't be surprised if come end of August they sell some tickets at a reduced capacity. France have held games with crowd, think Germany are doing same soon? And I'd expect England to follow in late August, with aim to have reduced crowds in play from late September onwards.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: KES80 on July 17, 2020, 09:56:52 AM
Pricing does look to be at the top end of what might have been expected. However, this appears to be what is required to make things work with the current model, so I hope everyone gets behind the club and supports their home town team.. ....after all it's the current model that has brought the lovely football and unprecedented success of the last 3 seasons.

I don't think, personally comparisons with Norwich or Peterborough are valid. Norwich are subsidised by huge Sky money and they are not our home town club. I live and work in Norwich, now, have done for the last 20 years, but prefer to travel when I can to see Lynn...I haven't been to Carrow Rd for 5 years.
Peterborough are not the home town team either and if you're traveling from Lynn, add on your costs of getting there each week into the equation of course
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Nemesis on July 17, 2020, 11:36:24 AM
Listening to Boris this morning - ďFrom October we intend to bring back audiences in stadia in a Covid-secure way subject to the successful outcome of pilots."
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: GrahamB on July 17, 2020, 01:23:59 PM
Since the resurrection of the club by Buster, everyone has craved to play higher and higher, last season the monentum and enthusiasm for the National League increased .............................
Now we have got it AND no one appears to want to pay to watch it!  :dontknow:  :dontknow:  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: mike20382 on July 17, 2020, 01:31:23 PM
How about people like myself who cannot afford that so with a very heavy heart will no longer be watching the Linnets
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 17, 2020, 01:31:39 PM
Since the resurrection of the club by Buster, everyone has craved to play higher and higher

Sorry Graham, but I really don't know where you get that idea from. Whereas everyone enjoys watching a successful team, I believe the majority of supporters would opt for a level that is sustainable and affordable for both the Club and the Supporters.

However, differing opinions is one of the things that make like interesting.   :scarf:
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 17, 2020, 01:51:29 PM
Pricing does look to be at the top end of what might have been expected. However, this appears to be what is required to make things work with the current model, so I hope everyone gets behind the club and supports their home town team.. ....after all it's the current model that has brought the lovely football and unprecedented success of the last 3 seasons.

The "current model" that has brought success in recent seasons appears to have been based on the Club borrowing more money than its competitors, enabling a higher playing budget than otherwise would have been available. Probably to the tune of £400,000 to £500,000 by now.  :dontknow:

That's a tidy sum to borrow over a three year period.

I guess that's the cost of success.  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: TonyM on July 17, 2020, 01:54:25 PM
Since the resurrection of the club by Buster, everyone has craved to play higher and higher

Sorry Graham, but I really don't know where you get that idea from. Whereas everyone enjoys watching a successful team, I believe the majority of supporters would opt for a level that is sustainable and affordable for both the Club and the Supporters.

However, differing opinions is one of the things that make like interesting.   :scarf:

I think I am nearer Graham's view.  Given the fact that step 2 is probably living 'beyond way our means' currently without a sizable injection (NOT INVESTMENT) by SC every season, we still had plenty on the forum over Christmas looking for the squad to be strengthened for a promotion push in the new year. 

I appreciate that the forum may not be indicative of the supporter base as a whole but when you look at take up for things like 50/50, 12th man, ground squares and the pitch cover collection(s) its pretty clear that the existing supporters are either unable or unwilling to back the club financially to the necessary degree for the level that IC's squad have attained.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Dilligaf on July 17, 2020, 01:58:26 PM
As I said in a previous post....its a sad day when purchasing a ticket to watch the game, buying refreshments at the ground isn't deemed as good enough anymore... :laughcry:
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: GrahamB on July 17, 2020, 01:58:54 PM
I agree that it has to be viable and I guess that these prices are reflected in the busines plan for the coming season and the "estimated"revenue these prices generate will go some way to achieving the figures required. I dont think the powers that be have just plucked some figures out of the air and thought lets stick it to 'em!
Everyone I know wants Lynn to be as high up as possible, surely thats why we all go and turnout in the numbers we do and this is the price for that craving and the success generated on the pitch.

Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 17, 2020, 02:05:27 PM
Since the resurrection of the club by Buster, everyone has craved to play higher and higher

Sorry Graham, but I really don't know where you get that idea from. Whereas everyone enjoys watching a successful team, I believe the majority of supporters would opt for a level that is sustainable and affordable for both the Club and the Supporters.

However, differing opinions is one of the things that make like interesting.   :scarf:

I think I am nearer Graham's view.  Given the fact that step 2 is probably living 'beyond way our means' currently without a sizable injection (NOT INVESTMENT) by SC every season, we still had plenty on the forum over Christmas looking for the squad to be strengthened for a promotion push in the new year. 

I appreciate that the forum may not be indicative of the supporter base as a whole but when you look at take up for things like 50/50, 12th man, ground squares and the pitch cover collection(s) its pretty clear that the existing supporters are either unable or unwilling to back the club financially to the necessary degree for the level that IC's squad have attained.

Tony.

Graham said everyone. I think you will agree there's plenty of people who would opt for sustainable and affordable football, and the safety of the Club going forward.

I fully agree with your second paragraph. The lack of support for the fund raising activities shows what the Club is up against. I'm of the opinion that the only way we can hope to stay at the current level that we find ourselves at, is by the Club  continuing to borrow from the Chairman.

I just can't see that  enough supporters will be willing to fund Mr Clerves dreams to the extent he wants them to. Previous fund raising efforts not only failed to raise enough money, but also showed how few individuals were willing to put their hands in their pockets.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blueboy on July 17, 2020, 02:09:14 PM
My main gripe is not that the prices have increased, but its the lack of a concession price for the centre seated area, especially for my 6 year old grandson who has been coming with me off and on for the last couple of seasons.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: gs50 on July 17, 2020, 02:10:12 PM
I have been waiting for over 60 years to see Lynn in this league and would rather stop paying for Sky Sports. You have got to pay a reasonable price for the league we are now in and am happy to.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: TonyM on July 17, 2020, 02:12:33 PM
Since the resurrection of the club by Buster, everyone has craved to play higher and higher
Tony.

Graham said everyone. I think you will agree there's plenty of people who would opt for sustainable and affordable football, and the safety of the Club going forward.

Apologies, I hadn't picked up on the 'everyone' bit as I would certainly not count myself in that group, wanting to play higher than UCL - yes, wanting to play 'higher and higher' - no, not until such time as it was financially viable.  So yes, I would agree there are plenty who would opt for 'sustainable and affordable' although I fear that is a smaller minority than either of us would hope was the case.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 17, 2020, 02:32:31 PM




So yes, I would agree there are plenty who would opt for 'sustainable and affordable' although I fear that is a smaller minority than either of us would hope was the case.

Maybe, but I'm not so sure. From what I hear and see it appears that there are as many people voicing concerns and don't approve of the new ticket pricing than there are wanting to go higher and higher. How much that is down to the fact that it looks as if they are now expected to pay for it themselves, I don't know?
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: TonyM on July 17, 2020, 02:36:34 PM
My main gripe is not that the prices have increased, but its the lack of a concession price for the centre seated area, especially for my 6 year old grandson who has been coming with me off and on for the last couple of seasons.

Appreciate we can all look at pricing from a personal perspective (good for me who can buy my ticket 7 days in advance and only see a £2 increase) but realistically there are not that many yellow seats and if the club can maximise it's income from those seats then I guess that is something that it must do.  I haven't sat in the stands too often but I would have thought if you are going with a 6 year old you could still get a good enough view from a blue seat?

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Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Nemesis on July 17, 2020, 02:50:29 PM

Appreciate we can all look at pricing from a personal perspective (good for me who can buy my ticket 7 days in advance and only see a £2 increase) but realistically there are not that many yellow seats  . . .

Space will be at a premium. Minimum number of seats for directors 40 and  12 for press (with lighting and writing facilities) and then double that number to allow for social distancing. Social distancing in the press box could be a challenge.
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: GrahamB on July 17, 2020, 07:21:00 PM
Mazza signing has just made it even better value for money!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Grissles Oleary on July 17, 2020, 08:16:38 PM
To me it seems that listening to the latest podcast it would seem that Mr Cleeve is basing he season on what comes through the gate? Not a single mention on the commercial side of things, doesn't even seem to be a quest for a major team sponsor,thought they would have been knocking the door down? Seems a long way from the days when we had three major offers on the table? Mr Cleeve has often spoken out in the past about fan supported clubs, seems King's Lynn is becoming just that,but with a board of just one? :dontknow:
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Mallard on July 17, 2020, 08:28:32 PM
Griss Iím not sure we ever had three offers on the table.  In fact Iím not convinced we even had a table. :laughcry:
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Grissles Oleary on July 17, 2020, 08:45:01 PM
Griss Iím not sure we ever had three offers on the table.  In fact Iím not convinced we even had a table. :laughcry:


Oh how I long for the infamous table to reappear. :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: KES80 on July 17, 2020, 10:09:05 PM
I have been waiting for over 60 years to see Lynn in this league and would rather stop paying for Sky Sports. You have got to pay a reasonable price for the league we are now in and am happy to.

 :cheers: :cup2:
Title: Re: Next season's prices
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 17, 2020, 10:54:34 PM
Griss Iím not sure we ever had three offers on the table.  In fact Iím not convinced we even had a table. :laughcry:


Oh how I long for the infamous table to reappear. :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:

.....or the dishwasher.   :laughcry:
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