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Title: Ground Improvements
Post by: dillydilly on August 01, 2020, 11:10:48 PM
There must be a lot of terracing, seating, and/or roofing that might be for sale at Boston Unitedís excellent York Street ground.  As The Walks needs quite a lot of improvement considering the level we have now reached and hope at least to consolidate, shouldnít we be interested in acquiring some stock, with that in mind ?  Finance permitting, of course....
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: KES80 on August 02, 2020, 08:47:08 AM
At this stage of the game, think your last sentence is key Dilly..........not sure of the ground development deadline, but it must be some way off........think the aim would be to get some income in first. The  Chairman has already put plenty in ......

Unless of course some new local firm would like to sponsor the purchase or more of the supporters were to buy into the fabulous  success of the club.

Btw how for example is the season ticket raffle going ?

Last we heard, a meagre 66 punters, which the Trust thought was quite encouraging. I do hope the figure turns out to be much higher than that.
I know these are uncertain times and many are worried about finances, but there must be those in the area, who are not being affected........(I know of many in Norwich who are doing ok), when you hear what clubs who are now a league below Lynn have raised.........well the response so far for Lynn is more than disappointing IMO.........
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 02, 2020, 09:18:11 AM

Btw how for example is the season ticket raffle going ?

Last we heard, a meagre 66 punters

Go on Kes.......make it 67!

Everyone has the opportunity to make a difference.

 :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Mallard on August 02, 2020, 10:00:47 AM
KES I agree it does seem like every fund raising initiative launched as a fund raiser seems to fall flat on his ass.

Now would you suggest itís down to the apathy toward a single ownership
Model with a dodgy history or just the Lynn fans not having the money to give?

It is certainly a recurring theme that despite pulling in 1400 Fans it is a very tiny % of fans who are prepared to hand over more than just the admission fee


Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: dillydilly on August 02, 2020, 10:51:11 AM
Agree with Mallard.  Iím speaking from a position of hypocrisy, but I believe the problem is psychological.  If I or perhaps many of the ďreluctantsĒ saw the money going in from a scheme starting to make a real difference to potential, then weíd chip in with decent sums.  However, if the number of participants and therefore input stays low, it feels psychologically that we might be throwing our hard earned down a hole.  More hypocrisy from me there, because mine is no longer hard earned as Iím retired !
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 02, 2020, 12:13:46 PM
If I or perhaps many of the ďreluctantsĒ saw the money going in from a scheme starting to make a real difference to potential, then weíd chip in with decent sums.

Hi Dilly

May I ask what Scheme would appeal to you? Would Turnstyles and Floodlights not fit the description of making a real difference?

If not, then once such a scheme had been identified, how much do you believe is a decent sum?

Would you then be prepared to give donated money  directly  to the Club to so Mr Cleeve can spend it as he wishes, or would you like it to be donated via a vehicle (such as, but not necessarily, the Trust) so the money goes to an area that the people donating the money, want it to go to?

 :dontknow:
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: TonyM on August 02, 2020, 12:38:16 PM
Agree with Mallard.  Iím speaking from a position of hypocrisy, but I believe the problem is psychological.  If I or perhaps many of the ďreluctantsĒ saw the money going in from a scheme starting to make a real difference to potential, then weíd chip in with decent sums.  However, if the number of participants and therefore input stays low, it feels psychologically that we might be throwing our hard earned down a hole.  More hypocrisy from me there, because mine is no longer hard earned as Iím retired !

Dilly, given the wide range of fund raising schemes that have been tried in the past couple of season, if you are still 'reluctant' (and I appreciate you are in a sizable majority here), I really don't think it is down to 'making a difference' as some of the schemes have been very specific:
   * supporters collection for frost protection cover - how much more specific can you get but still didn't raise half the cost with bucket collections
   * Ground Development Fund - funds protected in a separate bank account, only spent on specific items to improve the Walks as per FA ground grading requirements, track record of raising and spending the money as stated but still very little take up from fans
   * 12th man - all funds supposedly going to player budget, effectively a 'win bonus' scheme but not much of an incentive for the squad to share £65 for a win

I don't have an answer, a few hunches as to why people don't support the various schemes, but I think this could be a 'make or break' season for both fans and the current owner, he has chosen to run the club 'his way' but doesn't appear to have the funds to carry this on indefinitely so maybe a case of him having to change his MO or the fans changing their collective view of what is required to watch the club play at step 1 / 2 of the pyramid.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: KES80 on August 02, 2020, 12:44:58 PM
KES I agree it does seem like every fund raising initiative launched as a fund raiser seems to fall flat on his ass.

Now would you suggest itís down to the apathy toward a single ownership
Model with a dodgy history or just the Lynn fans not having the money to give?

It is certainly a recurring theme that despite pulling in 1400 Fans it is a very tiny % of fans who are prepared to hand over more than just the admission fee



Well Mall, I would be very disappointed if people are still refusing to give purely on the basis of the model, which infact has provided the best football, the most excitement and the most success in living memory.

I recognise, as a self employed person who wasn't able to work for 4 months due to Covid restrictions, that some don't have the cash, but I am also sure that many could afford something significant.

I personally think it's a combination of :

1/ people having a mindset of just paying on match day
2/ In some instances things being launched without really encouraging participation or being launched in a low key way with no target or with too low an expectation.
Couple of examples spring to mind.
I mentioned yonks ago about masks...... it's been clear for ages that everyone needs one and they are here to stay.
Could and should have been launched ages ago when everyone was looking for one.Remember posting on here and had a very negative response from some.
Now finally being launched with limited supply...far too little too late... a great way of marketing the club and developing community involvement if done at the right time.
As it's so late in the day, maybe a mask and a league winners badge should be given out/sold only with a season ticket...make them exclusive to those who commit.
Second, the Trust's season ticket scheme....rather low key, no real target too low aspiration level if 66 is deemed good...heck that's a profit of around £300....come on it's National League, not Sunday League ! Have considered making it 67 B and G and then giving ticket back if I win, but even tho hard up, think some small donation to the club might be more beneficial.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: TonyM on August 02, 2020, 12:51:48 PM
...Second, the Trust's season ticket scheme....rather low key, no real target too low aspiration level if 66 is deemed good...heck that's a profit of around £300....come on it's National League, not Sunday League ! Have considered making it 67 B and G and then giving ticket back if I win, but even tho hard up, think some small donation to the club might be more beneficial.

Not sure there was 'a target' as such and whilst I would love to see the entrants in the hundreds you appear to have given an answer as to why that isn't the case.  Just for info, currently the raffle is set to generate £660 towards the Ground Development Fund (the price of the ticket was raised from donations by businesses / individuals)
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 02, 2020, 01:20:49 PM
 Kes.

The Trust has a membership of around 80 people. That's all.

If you combine the number of people that have purchased tickets, and also contributed to the purchase of the ticket (i.e. so the cost of the season ticket prize does not have to be taken from the raffle ticket sales), that also gives you a figure of around 80. They may or may not be the same 80.

Compare this number to the amount of individuals that contributed to the Clubs/Fotl's last two fund raising efforts..........and they have 1400 regular supporters to go at.

More beneficial making a small donation to the Club (although its down to the individuals how they donate their own money)? Whys that? What can be more beneficial than 100"% of the Trusts season ticket raffle money raised going to the Club? Even the cost of the prize has been taken care of by kind donations.

Low key, when it can be argued that there's been a 100% take up?   :laughcry:

If the Club and their FOTL could repeat such success, then maybe things could start going in the right direction.
 :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Mallard on August 02, 2020, 01:23:39 PM
The Club seems to lack that community spirit feeling, as in itís the fans Club.   It instead has a feeling of being Stephen Cleeve owner Club ( which of course it is).  The owner makes no attempt to engage with The Trust and even the Friends have no say in the running of the Club.   

Having said that Sc does seem to have allowed the likes of Mark  to join the inner circle.   So hopefully with him now organising the fund raising/commercial side things may change.   It does seem that the Ďold teamí who raised money for the Club were very successful but it does seem strange that these people have not been contacted to help out.  Then again maybe they have ?

With the Club at its highest level in decades, with the best manager in charge that most of us have seen, with a new youth set up looking head and shoulders what we have had before, crowds averaging 1400 plus.   Yet we still have this apathy toward the Club.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Colin Fuller on August 02, 2020, 02:02:31 PM
I have two observations to make re. the GDF. Firstly, I am in favour of the Trust contributing towards specific projects like last yearís turnstile upgrade.
Secondly, it might be helpful if fans were told by the club what needs upgrading to meet NL standards. For example, if you prefer to stand and watch from one end, and knew the club had to provide a covered section then that would be an incentive to contribute towards fund-raising.
As a matter of interest, I recently read that the fund-raising scheme, called the West Norfolk Competition, which helped pay for the main stand in the 1950s was apparently supported by 30,000 members at one time.
How times have changed!
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: KES80 on August 02, 2020, 02:17:22 PM
Tony and B  and G......we should all be grateful for your input and work...I know Tony was one who contributed for the season ticket scheme.....and I don't want to appear to be a "knocker"....just trying to find an answer for all this low energy and apathy(some of which I feel, may be endemic in the town )......and B and G I wasn't aware that you are only 80 in number (that has shocked me somewhat!)

We, the Club, the Trust we just need a way to really stir things up in a positive way and get people on board.


I know there have been many attempts...but how about this one for the Club (Mark ...are you there ?)

A new KLTFC membership idea.. let's call it something simple like "The King's Lynn Fan Club" .
Let's make it affordable, but worthwhile for both the club and fans......so let's say £150 per annum.
Let's make the benefits be related to the match day(as that is when most people seem happy to part with their cash) and also give something that people can wear with pride when around the town, which will in turn advertise the club and encourage others....and most importantly let's encourage fans to have the opportunity to connect more with players and staff.
How about a free matchday programme at each home game, an item of clothing (scarf, mask, etc), a Kings Lynn fan club badge and a signed photo of the whole squad/individual picture of member with favourite player etc.

Now the really important bit...liase with Lynn News and EDP and radio Stations to really advertise it. Let the local schools know about it by player visits(incl KES where the Academy is). Have 1or 2 events in the year in the Bar/Hospitality Area that are reduced admission for members  eg talks by current players/management.....sit ins on training sessions, visits by full time pros, maybe a Christmas do attended by some players and staff etc



Just absolutely anything to get that connection between the people at the club and the people in the town and surrounds!
I feel the club has to reach out and go into the town and West Norfolk more.....people opening fetes, events, turning on Christmas lights etc etc
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: KES80 on August 02, 2020, 02:36:59 PM
Another nice idea would be to include a monthly fanzine, with some exclusives, just for members.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Mallard on August 02, 2020, 04:13:11 PM
I think the biggest assets the club has for fund raising are the Players and the Management team. 
Now to find a way to utilise those assets to the Clubs benefit.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: dillydilly on August 02, 2020, 06:53:33 PM
No offence to contributors on this forum as they all have the stability and progress of the club at heart.  However, I donít believe that schemes such as cigarette-style cards of the players, photo-ops, etc., would appeal to the wider area of people that we should now be able to interest and attract.  SC has run this club better than any other Chairman, and in a way that a fan-rum club would never be able to better.  We should now be able to attract people who in the past would never have thought of coming to a game, and that is where our attentions should be aimed.  We therefore need reps for all the villages to round up and enthuse new supporters, and THAT is where our efforts should be made to help finance the club.  We must think bigger.....
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 02, 2020, 07:53:02 PM
  We must think bigger.....

Get ya wallet out!

 :scarf:
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Grissles Oleary on August 02, 2020, 11:24:22 PM
No offence to contributors on this forum as they all have the stability and progress of the club at heart.  However, I donít believe that schemes such as cigarette-style cards of the players, photo-ops, etc., would appeal to the wider area of people that we should now be able to interest and attract.  SC has run this club better than any other Chairman, and in a way that a fan-rum club would never be able to better.  We should now be able to attract people who in the past would never have thought of coming to a game, and that is where our attentions should be aimed.  We therefore need reps for all the villages to round up and enthuse new supporters, and THAT is where our efforts should be made to help finance the club.  We must think bigger.....

We are already a fan run club as the bulk of the money taken to run the club is taken from the fans! We have failed over the last few seasons to attract a major sponsor,who will be our sponsor this season,will we attract an actual sponsor or a sponsor that is owner owned? I brought a football club, but actually I  didn't,the fans did!
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Bluboy on August 03, 2020, 06:30:10 AM
No offence to contributors on this forum as they all have the stability and progress of the club at heart.  However, I donít believe that schemes such as cigarette-style cards of the players, photo-ops, etc., would appeal to the wider area of people that we should now be able to interest and attract.  SC has run this club better than any other Chairman, and in a way that a fan-rum club would never be able to better.  We should now be able to attract people who in the past would never have thought of coming to a game, and that is where our attentions should be aimed.  We therefore need reps for all the villages to round up and enthuse new supporters, and THAT is where our efforts should be made to help finance the club.  We must think bigger.....

We are already a fan run club as the bulk of the money taken to run the club is taken from the fans! We have failed over the last few seasons to attract a major sponsor,who will be our sponsor this season,will we attract an actual sponsor or a sponsor that is owner owned? I brought a football club, but actually I  didn't,the fans did!
Listen to his latest pod cast  , your answers on there regarding sponsorship....
Letís be honest isnít every football club run by fans in non league hence no fans no games in the future  but Sc has put in plenty off ££ himself  and look where we are and the journey weíre on .. just need  to embrace the two together ,
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Mallard on August 03, 2020, 07:02:36 AM
Thatís correct SC has pumped loads of cash into his hobby.  Long may it need to continue. As what happens when he stops ?   The fans of Kings Lynn have shown time after time they are not prepared to support SCís level of ambition
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 03, 2020, 08:33:33 AM
The fans of Kings Lynn have shown time after time they are not prepared to support SCís level of ambition

Well, through the gates they are (at least for the time being).

Financially, other than match day spending, I think you could be right.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Mallard on August 03, 2020, 08:39:37 AM
Through the gates ?   SC and MH said on a recent podcast even if they sold 1500 season tickets that would not pay the players wages.   Thatís based on 1500 at reduced season ticket rates. 

We pulled in an average of 1400 last season for a Lynn side that was flying high at the top of the League.  What happens if we are mid table or worse struggling at the bottom? Is the Kings Lynn Fanbase a 2,000 following for a team not challenging for honours ?
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: jesuslinnet on August 03, 2020, 09:28:21 AM
This was posted on twitter only yesterday.
Have the club only just found out?

Calling all local businesses. YOUR football club is lining up with the big guns of non league next season. The likes of Notts County,  Yeovil and Barnet to name but 3 in YOUR Town. Get involved by calling 01553 760060 or mark@kltown.co.uk
#YourTeamYourTown
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Linnet on August 03, 2020, 10:23:38 AM
Indeed Jesus but to be fair it would not have looked so good if it read "Notts County or Harrogate" before yesterday
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: KES80 on August 03, 2020, 10:26:39 AM
Well I have to agree with Mallard.

My feeling is that the whole Lynn area has a low energy feel about it.....almost comatosed sometimes...the Chairman seems to have to spoon feed rich pickings before people are slowly stirred.
It's no coincidence, that the success story has been driven from people from outside, married with a few passionate driven locals(Robbie Back for one).
But where are the marketing initiatives now from the Club at this vital time and where is the back up from the core support ? Surely the Club can't be relying solely on the crowds or a possible, but only possible tv stream to survive... ..they really need to pick up a number of decent sized sponsorships and get the locals motivated and on side.......it requires significant numbers going out and meeting and talking to people....do hope this is on going.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 03, 2020, 10:43:16 AM
it requires significant numbers going out and meeting and talking to people....do hope this is on going.
..................and the right people.

Its no good just sending email's out to people asking them if they would like to sponsor. If only it was that easy........................!
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: KES80 on August 03, 2020, 12:04:17 PM
Spot on B&G....you have to build and forge relationships and that has to be done  by meeting people in the flesh.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: gs50 on August 03, 2020, 12:26:04 PM
Think they missed a trick with the stand season tickets.Supporters should have been given one week to buy tickets at last seasons prices.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: KES80 on August 03, 2020, 12:43:49 PM
Perhaps Lynn could take York's lead and have an open day at the ground, invite potential sponsors from the local business area, show them round, provide a nice quality free meal and a few drinks, meet the Manager, Chairman etc, start the ball rolling
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: TonyM on August 03, 2020, 01:13:29 PM
Kes.

The Trust has a membership of around 80 people. That's all.

If you combine the number of people that have purchased tickets, and also contributed to the purchase of the ticket (i.e. so the cost of the season ticket prize does not have to be taken from the raffle ticket sales), that also gives you a figure of around 80. They may or may not be the same 80.

Compare this number to the amount of individuals that contributed to the Clubs/Fotl's last two fund raising efforts..........and they have 1400 regular supporters to go at.

More beneficial making a small donation to the Club (although its down to the individuals how they donate their own money)? Whys that? What can be more beneficial than 100"% of the Trusts season ticket raffle money raised going to the Club? Even the cost of the prize has been taken care of by kind donations.

Low key, when it can be argued that there's been a 100% take up?   :laughcry:

If the Club and their FOTL could repeat such success, then maybe things could start going in the right direction.
 :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:

B&G, just to pick you up on this, why do would you consider the Season Ticket raffle a success at 67 when it is open to anyone ie all of the 1400 average gate, in the same way as any club / FotL fundraiser?  Maybe this is part of the problem with certain sections of the fan base immediately dismissing any fundraising effort by a particular group when in fact we should all have a similar ultimate goal - the success of KLTFC (appreciate it isn't quite as simple as that as 'success' will be different for different people)
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: TonyM on August 03, 2020, 01:17:45 PM
We are already a fan run club as the bulk of the money taken to run the club is taken from the fans!

Obviously this was partially tongue in cheek but we are a long, long way from fan run / fan owned.  Paying an entrance fee for a product (in any walk of life) is far removed from investing and shouldn't ever really be seen as equivalent, it certainly isn't at truely 'fan run' clubs.  I would also question your definition of 'bulk' as I think the model SC is working to, unfortunately, needs a fair chunk of money from him every season.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: TonyM on August 03, 2020, 01:39:40 PM
No offence to contributors on this forum as they all have the stability and progress of the club at heart.  However, I donít believe that schemes such as cigarette-style cards of the players, photo-ops, etc., would appeal to the wider area of people that we should now be able to interest and attract.

Not unreasonable and a fair indication of where we are and the sorts of funds necessary to maintain that level

SC has run this club better than any other Chairman, and in a way that a fan-rum club would never be able to better. 

Wholly debatable statement and whilst you could argue that given who SC is up against (Dolimore, Bobbins, Chapman et al) makes that title slightly irrelevant, I really don't think we have a model that many would want to emulate (unless you are from Histon, Lowestoft, etc)

We should now be able to attract people who in the past would never have thought of coming to a game, and that is where our attentions should be aimed.  We therefore need reps for all the villages to round up and enthuse new supporters, and THAT is where our efforts should be made to help finance the club.  We must think bigger.....

Whilst the football on offer next season will be the highest standard many of us will have witnessed at the Walks (if fans are able to watch) that doesn't mean the club has a right to expect that fans 'should' come.  Many times in the past a successful side at a lower level has had attendances comparable or better then the following, less successful, season at a higher level.  Tickets have been prices at the upper end of what 'neutrals' might expect to pay to watch NL standard football so generating bigger attendances won't be easy, although I would agree that isn't a reason not aim for them.  A couple of seasons ago there were posters available for 'this months fixtures', maybe something similar could be arranged for this season and your 'village reps' could make sure they are put up around West Norfolk?  Personally I don't know what more can be done - Lynn News/YLP/EDP have good coverage, Radio Norfolk does an excellent job and KLFM cover the Linnets as much as any other sporting side so how do you attract that floating football fan?

Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: dillydilly on August 03, 2020, 11:09:04 PM
You make the place attractive to the thousands of people in this excellent catchment area who enjoy football but have always thought of KLTFC as being too small time, with an undeveloped ground.  That means improving the ground and enthusing the villages.  If we get televised our neat but undeveloped terraces wonít pull in those potential new customers .
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Bluboy on August 04, 2020, 09:34:37 AM
You make the place attractive to the thousands of people in this excellent catchment area who enjoy football but have always thought of KLTFC as being too small time, with an undeveloped ground.  That means improving the ground and enthusing the villages.  If we get televised our neat but undeveloped terraces wonít pull in those potential new customers .
I agree but with development comes cost hard , one as do we establish NL status for 2/3 seasons then dev or get it done now ,
Yes lynn could be good catchment area but I find it hard also as we donít have substantial villages in close proximity to pull them in  etc hopefully get off to a good start and  turn a few heads  :scarf:
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: dillydilly on August 04, 2020, 09:55:25 AM
Donít understand that one, Bluboy.  We have maybe a couple of hundred villages in our catchment area, (thatís a guess - Iíll have a lockdown count-up !).  Plus the beauty of the area is that there are no other pro-clubs to compete with, except for roughly 40 miles in any direction.  What a chance we have to ďpull Ďem inĒ....I think we have too many Linnets who would just as soon be a big fish in a tiny pool, lording it over poorly supported small clubs and feeling proud of our gates of 500 as be in the excellent position we are now at......  We should be able to do it - those people would be attracted, because, in their perception, they have never had the incentive to come to The Walks.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Mallard on August 04, 2020, 10:59:42 AM
I think we are doing well to pull in 1400.  Kings Lynn population circa 45,000.

Harrogate ( just promoted out of the League we are now entering average crowd 1550.  Population circa 75,000..  plus watching football there is loads cheaper.
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Bluboy on August 04, 2020, 11:36:19 AM
Donít understand that one, Bluboy.  We have maybe a couple of hundred villages in our catchment area, (thatís a guess - Iíll have a lockdown count-up !).  Plus the beauty of the area is that there are no other pro-clubs to compete with, except for roughly 40 miles in any direction.  What a chance we have to ďpull Ďem inĒ....I think we have too many Linnets who would just as soon be a big fish in a tiny pool, lording it over poorly supported small clubs and feeling proud of our gates of 500 as be in the excellent position we are now at......  We should be able to do it - those people would be attracted, because, in their perception, they have never had the incentive to come to The Walks.
Couple hundred villages ?? What Iím saying is I drive from lynn to fakenham and no really big populated villages ... and in those villages may have a village footy side on a Saturday, not everyone likes football, or may have Norwich season tickets etc etc also people donít realise the quality of non league footy  at the walks , think Iím 1 of a handful who travel from fakenham way and when I say I watch lynn not many understand why !!  I agree with mallard I really do think 1400-1600 is what loyalty we have where did the extra 2000 go who came to the York game ... if that game couldnít pull more in then I donít know what will ....
Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 04, 2020, 12:23:44 PM
Donít understand that one, Bluboy.  We have maybe a couple of hundred villages in our catchment area, (thatís a guess - Iíll have a lockdown count-up !).  Plus the beauty of the area is that there are no other pro-clubs to compete with, except for roughly 40 miles in any direction.  What a chance we have to ďpull Ďem inĒ....I think we have too many Linnets who would just as soon be a big fish in a tiny pool, lording it over poorly supported small clubs and feeling proud of our gates of 500 as be in the excellent position we are now at......  We should be able to do it - those people would be attracted, because, in their perception, they have never had the incentive to come to The Walks.
Couple hundred villages ?? What Iím saying is I drive from lynn to fakenham and no really big populated villages ... and in those villages may have a village footy side on a Saturday, not everyone likes football, or may have Norwich season tickets etc etc also people donít realise the quality of non league footy  at the walks , think Iím 1 of a handful who travel from fakenham way and when I say I watch lynn not many understand why !!  I agree with mallard I really do think 1400-1600 is what loyalty we have where did the extra 2000 go who came to the York game ... if that game couldnít pull more in then I donít know what will ....

I must admit that, even taking into account the success of last season, I was pleasantly surprised that the gates averaged around 1400. I'm of the belief that unless we are challenging for a play off place again next season, we won't get many more than that despite now being at a higher level. Obviously the virus will dictate what size gates we actually achieve for next season.

With regards to the villages that are around Kings Lynn, its possible to get a list from the Post Office website listing all the surrounding villages. Its something that Web designers frequently use  (all hidden nicely away from sight) to assist getting local traffic to their websites and to make their sites appear high in the rankings for the likes of Google etc.

I would think this has all been done for the Clubs new website. Obviously people know where to find the Club, but if people are searching for gifts/Merchandise/special offers/function rooms/Corporate days etc etc etc, then its a valuable tool to use.

Title: Re: Ground Improvements
Post by: dillydilly on August 05, 2020, 11:50:32 PM
Harrogate catchment 75,000 ?!  We have an unchallenged catchment of about 120,000 !  And we donít have a Leeds Utd or half a dozen other league clubs in close proximity.  Yes , KL may reach 45,000, but itís not just KL people who enjoy football in the area.  Also, re other points that ďthey know where we areĒ and we could offer sponsors facilities for corporate events, a nice meal etc,  I feel the sort of sponsors we need are probably regular users of rather more salubrious hostelries than ours !  But itís also obviously true that this season the virus will decide the ďpull factorĒ rather than the football.  Itís fine to differ, because weíre all trying to find the holy grail.  Has Mark Hearle had any luck ?
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