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Title: Jamar Loza
Post by: Blue Moon on December 18, 2020, 05:47:38 PM
Come on then all you who know about the clubs financial affairs, how much did we get for Loza ?? :dontknow:
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: somerset linnet on December 18, 2020, 05:48:02 PM
Just been posted on Facebook by the club that Jamar Loza has left the club, for an undisclosed fee. Gone back to Woking. Apparently he was unhappy at Lynn. :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Dilligaf on December 18, 2020, 05:59:11 PM
Makes me laugh...all the same people gushing about him on twitter over the last few months....now slagging the lad off.... :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Loza
Post by: TonyM on December 18, 2020, 06:11:34 PM
Don't think there needs to be any 'slagging off' of Jamar, although I think it would be fair to say the signing wasn't a complete success mainly down to the side being chopped and changed meaning he never got to settle into a role.  Equally it did look a strange signing from the off if we were going to get Power back on loan again. 

Will be interesting to see what IC does given there was a fee involved and this also frees up some of the wages budget, does he replace like for like, strengthen elsewhere or settles with the squad he has for now?
Title: Re: Loza
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 18, 2020, 06:15:36 PM

Will be interesting to see what IC does given there was a fee involved and this also frees up some of the wages budget, does he replace like for like, strengthen elsewhere or settles with the squad he has for now?

Or just reduce outgoings in these times of reduced income.  :dontknow:

If so, there's nothing wrong with doing that.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Mallard on December 18, 2020, 06:16:09 PM
Apart from a back up keeper where would you see the budget spent Tony ?  Or maybe we will run with a squad -1.  All helps in these testing times which maybe coming in January, which sees the end of the Govt hand out money.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: dillydilly on December 18, 2020, 06:55:01 PM
Great pity.  Don’t think he was in competition with Power, as he was better inside than on the wing. Space for both.  He became one of the needed nipsters, and will improve Woking.  Again, real pity.  I believe we have slightly too much competition for places.  Where are King and Kelly, for example ?  Two players who are definitely the level required.  King looked Portsmouth level when he came on...
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: dillydilly on December 18, 2020, 07:37:29 PM
Last post this weekend.  i’m getting on my own wick now !  Just meant to add to my last Loza post - I think he, and others, missed out on games because of the fearful inclusion of 8 defensive players in a team.  He prob got fed up with it .... IMHO !!!
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: somerset linnet on December 18, 2020, 08:51:26 PM
Can't be me then Dilly. a. I never use twitter and b. I would never in any circumstance slag a player. I merely repeated what was on the official Kings Lynn Town website.  :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 18, 2020, 09:09:03 PM
Really disappointed to hear that...thought we had just got a good line up sorted with Power and Loza in that line up v Torquay. Think Loza was the sharpest front player in the squad and with his experience of the league would have been a huge asset...in contrast Lynn have a number of front players and midfielders who are not really firing and need to find their feet very quickly now that Jamar has left
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 18, 2020, 09:36:40 PM
Two brilliant goals against Barnet, 2 well taken goals v Woking to turn the game on its head  ........ that's 6 points of the Linnets total without even considering assists....he looked to me like the one thoroughbred in the squad :banghead;
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 18, 2020, 10:17:22 PM
I am more than a little concerned about the squad at the moment.... Marriott seems to be taking a long time to get fit...is his injury more serious ? King seems to be injury and illness prone at the moment, sadly and Kelly hasn't managed any run in the side or real lasting impact in the time that he has been at The Walks. Gashy seems to be getting there thankfully and Southwell and Mitchell always put in a good shift. Power, talented but still learning the game as you would expect.
It seems to me that it's getting close to the time in the season, when it should be becoming clear what the best starting eleven and five subs might be for the league, yet I am a little concerned that we are not much wiser than 12 games ago.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Paul47 on December 18, 2020, 10:45:54 PM
If a player wants to leave then absolutely no point in keeping him. Good luck to him but looks like he’s not treated the club very well.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Mallard on December 19, 2020, 07:06:49 AM
With Loma being the 4th player this season to walk away are there issues in the camp ?   IC prided himself in having a ‘tight’ dressing room last season and we saw the results of that.   This season has seen us throw the towel in at certain games. ( Solihull, Sutton, etc).

Some times the mix doesn’t work
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 19, 2020, 12:40:07 PM
It's a strange squad mix to my mind.
If you were going to sign a 26 yr old forward/winger with strength, pace and goals and experience of over 100 games at NL level, who is at his peak, then I would expect him to play most matches and certainly be ahead of some of the others in the squad, including a younger loanee from Norwich.....but of course, it may not work like that.
 But the squad does seem unbalanced, so that it is a challenge to fit the pieces in the holes.
I guess this first part of the season was bound to be a bit like that, seeing who could make it at this level and who could not.
Perhaps the size of the chasm between NL and NLN has surprised most of us.
Going forward I suspect another 2 or 3 to part company with the club over the next 3 months or so......to be replaced by some with greater experience and nous.
The challenge will be finding them and persuading them to come to the  part time outpost that is Kings Lynn.
I have no evidence to support this, but having seen Jamar's disappointment on the highlights a few times when soft goals were conceded, I wouldn't be surprised if he realised it would be an uphill battle in the lower half of the NL as a part timer this season and difficult for his career to progress from there or he could return to full time Woking on a new 18 month contract, with a chance of promotion and chances of making a step up at some stage.
Sad to see him go.....but a chance for someone else to tie down a role.

Re your point Mall about team spirit.......the squad was always going to have to be broken up at some stage I guess....you can't keep going up the leagues with the same personnel......so Fryatt leaving last term and then Pedro this, must have affected some in the back line...but it's about a new squad evolving now, part old, part new and getting them to gel. The back line seems to be coming together......then the midfield will need looking at....Clunan, Richards, Carey, Jarvis, King, Kelly....we need to find a consistent, dependable line up that gels and contains variety, but can attack and defend with equal alacrity and enthusiasm.....
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: gs50 on December 19, 2020, 02:43:59 PM
listening to Aaron Jones on radio Norfolk last night what's the point in having someone in the squad who is not happy and hence not giving 100 %in future games
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 19, 2020, 09:19:23 PM
Think we all accept that, but why was he not happy is a fair question to ask, when he was happy enough to sign a few months ago.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Bluboy on December 19, 2020, 10:52:11 PM
Well I enjoyed watching him and thought he started showing glimpses of what he could produce and tbh was gutted but now I think what was he about when he signed ?? Like you all say he wasn’t happy but then thinking about it doesn’t this just show the professionalism, desire , hunger and togetherness of the team we have ... look at dayle , Kelly , Carey , even maz who all have spells on the bench they don’t run they all put the team first and fight for a place back in starting 11  ....
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: dillydilly on December 20, 2020, 12:11:22 AM
I think we did start to find the blend required.  Even on paper before the game, the team against Torquay could be predicted to do a lot better than the very defensive line -ups that had been tried before.  We have lost a quick and clever player who had an eye for goal, and he was one of the nipsters we badly needed, particularly when he played more centrally.  If we keep that shape of team, instead of a team of strong tacklers, we will continue to improve.  I agree with KES’s assessment of Jamar, but not of Simon Power, because I don’t think he has anything to learn, as I think football is a simple game, with little to learn !
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Nemesis on December 20, 2020, 08:55:06 AM
Well I enjoyed watching him and thought he started showing glimpses of what he could produce and tbh was gutted but now I think what was he about when he signed ??
Circumstances change. I don't think the players were training Monday and Tuesday mornings when he signed.
Does he still live in Norwich or is it Islington?
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 20, 2020, 12:22:11 PM
I think we did start to find the blend required.  Even on paper before the game, the team against Torquay could be predicted to do a lot better than the very defensive line -ups that had been tried before.  We have lost a quick and clever player who had an eye for goal, and he was one of the nipsters we badly needed, particularly when he played more centrally.  If we keep that shape of team, instead of a team of strong tacklers, we will continue to improve.  I agree with KES’s assessment of Jamar, but not of Simon Power, because I don’t think he has anything to learn, as I think football is a simple game, with little to learn !


Ha ha Dilly.......yes football is a simple game, but if you don't think Power has anything to learn.........
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 20, 2020, 12:49:02 PM
listening to Aaron Jones on radio Norfolk last night what's the point in having someone in the squad who is not happy and hence not giving 100 %in future games
Have to say that I believe Aaron is correct here.

Always been the case with players when they either don't want to be at a Club, or (and these are two different things), would prefer that they were at another Club.

I think we saw evidence of this second half of last season, and to a certain degree have witnessed it again this season.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 20, 2020, 06:21:48 PM
Interesting B & G ....so who of the current squad do you reckon would rather be somewhere else ?
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: dillydilly on December 20, 2020, 11:41:45 PM
What is it Power has to learn ?  In comparison with other players in the squad ?  Why do managers get the sack ?  Do they suddenly forget everything they’ve “learned ?”  We hear the likes of Gary Neville using all he has learned for a couple of hours either side of a match, then he went to Spain as Valencia’s manager, and the team lost virtually every game !  Why didn’t he teach his players something ?!  Even he admitted he “didn’t know what he was doing” !  So what can Power learn ?  He taught Port Vale and Torquay that he could skin ‘em almost at will !  Just my opinion on the game - no offence to anyone - Have a safe Xmas, one and all !
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Nemesis on December 27, 2020, 05:56:24 PM
Jamar Loza
@jamardunga
·
32m
Fake news
 Didn’t get a signing on fee or a 40% pay rise
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 27, 2020, 06:14:14 PM
Jamar Loza
@jamardunga
·
32m
Fake news
 Didn’t get a signing on fee or a 40% pay rise

Oops!

 :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Mallard on December 27, 2020, 06:16:07 PM
Correct.  He didn’t get a 40% pay rise.  It was 42%, according to our Chairman.  Plus a signing in fee.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Paul47 on December 27, 2020, 06:23:09 PM
Who cares how much he is getting, he’s no longer at the club.

Time to move on and talk about the players who are still here and want to be here.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 27, 2020, 06:25:57 PM
What is it Power has to learn ?  In comparison with other players in the squad ?  Why do managers get the sack ?  Do they suddenly forget everything they’ve “learned ?”  We hear the likes of Gary Neville using all he has learned for a couple of hours either side of a match, then he went to Spain as Valencia’s manager, and the team lost virtually every game !  Why didn’t he teach his players something ?!  Even he admitted he “didn’t know what he was doing” !  So what can Power learn ?  He taught Port Vale and Torquay that he could skin ‘em almost at will !  Just my opinion on the game - no offence to anyone - Have a safe Xmas, one and all !



Thanks for asking the question Dilly, I will answer it for you and just like you  I won't charge...this time  :laughcry:

Power will learn over time and with experience to make better choices......when to run, when to pass, when to shoot, when not to, how better to use his body to withstand challenges and hold players off, how he can better.link up with his team so that his efforts, speed and undoubted raw talent leads to greater productivity in terms of clear cut chances and goals.
Football is littered with players with pace who regularly skin players, but who ultimately don't provide the final pass or shot to produce a goal, on a regular enough basis.
Power has the talent to do really well, but he is young and learning as he goes, as one would expect.
If he had nothing to learn he wouldn't be with Lynn, he would be playing in the Championship.
Looking at the season so far, ignore the runs and just look at bare facts.....goals scored and assists made which led to goals
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Mallard on December 27, 2020, 06:35:38 PM
Who cares how much he is getting, he’s no longer at the club.

Time to move on and talk about the players who are still here and want to be here.

Yes who cares how much he’s on.  Who can blame him for taking that kind of pay rise, and boot money.    Maybe in a few weeks if another club come in a offer a few quid more he will be on his bike again.

Have to agree with SC it’s the way it was done that leaves a sour taste.  Shame the boy didn’t have the conkers to just say he was off as another club had come in for him.

Not one of IC’s better signings, as it turned out. 

Yesterday Woking got stuffed 3-0 and Loza was pulled off.  Maybe Woking have over valued him.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Paul47 on December 27, 2020, 06:39:07 PM
Totally agree Mallard. If he doesn’t want to be here than good riddance.

Good we got a fee for him. Looking as his record know he doesn’t seem to hang about anywhere for very long.

Oh well. We move on.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 27, 2020, 06:42:36 PM
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Not one of IC’s better signings, as it turned out. 

Yesterday Woking got stuffed 3-0 and Loza was pulled off. .

What, as well as a  42% pay rise and a signing on fee?
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Mallard on December 27, 2020, 06:46:08 PM
Are you here all week ?  :laughcry:

Good crackers in your house this Christmas.  Was that the problem at Lynn, did they just give him an Orange ?
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: kenny r on December 27, 2020, 08:06:16 PM
Steady now, Mall
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 27, 2020, 09:12:39 PM
Jamar Loza

More apparent fake news :

It's up to me and the other 2 players who have good experience of playing at this level, to take responsibility and help the others through it .......        or words to that effect on a recent post match interview.

Good player but his heart apparently wasn't truly in it, so best he went.......we of course don't know the full story and I can understand that he would be unhappy on the bench, but why not discuss it with management and try and work through it , if you have made the commitment to come only a few weeks earlier.
I have a hunch Woking won't have much of a season ....be nice if Lynn finished above them.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 27, 2020, 09:40:54 PM
Looking at Jamar's feed there is a post there from Bev Asher......
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on December 27, 2020, 10:39:05 PM
Looking at Jamar's feed there is a post there from Bev Asher......

Thanks Kes.

For those of us that don't do Twitter............?


:)
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Nemesis on December 27, 2020, 11:03:30 PM


Thanks Kes.

For those of us that don't do Twitter............?


:)

Bevan Asher
@bev_asher
Replying to
@jamardunga
not surprised
 - hope all is well and you can kick on at Woking
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Mallard on December 28, 2020, 11:03:05 AM
For those of you who want to see what we have lost in Loza, Woking v Eastleigh is live on BT Sports at 12.30
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: dillydilly on December 28, 2020, 11:12:42 AM
Thanks for that, KES !  I know that’s the sort of thing we hear from managers and pundits every time, but I don’t believe it !  Watch a manager, even at top level, or a coach, briefing a sub, ie teaching him what he’s being sent on for.  Turning the pages over - but none of them are listening - just trying to hide their disinterest !  A player with what you call “raw ability”, like Power will always supply more to a team than another who knows all the theory, but doesn’t have the ability.  I don’t think eg, Redknapp or Carragher make sense to players, except on a subbuteo board !  But, good to exchange views.  Power won’t get to a championship team by learning more - only by having great games. All IMHO, and Happy New Year to you !!  Even IC is learning now that you can’t defend by having 8 defensive players defending for 90 minutes, at least not often....
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 28, 2020, 12:12:46 PM
Think you have tripped yourself up on your own Festive Tosh there Dilly, my fellow old friend   :laughcry: :laughcry:.....you say in your last line IC is "learning", but according to your repeated posts,  "there is nothing to learn". :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:

I say this all in a light hearted manner and in the same spirit as you Dilly...no malice etc whatsoever, but....

IMHO Power hasn't had a great game yet at NL level........he has had some really good runs but without the end product.

I think he has scored one goal...direct from a free kick, which he probably meant, tho some will say he whipped in an intended cross.


I also think it's unfair of us to single him out as he is young and performing as well as many in the side.

He and most of the squad don't yet have the experience of someone like Loza who has become streetwise after 100 games or more at the level.


Our team seems to be gradually improving at this level, not by doing the same things, but by learning that different/additional things are required in order to compete.


Warm regards....COYL
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 28, 2020, 02:27:56 PM
For those of you who want to see what we have lost in Loza, Woking v Eastleigh is live on BT Sports at 12.30


Finished 0-0 I see.... didn't watch it........ did Loza get pulled off again ?
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Mallard on December 28, 2020, 03:53:09 PM
It was dire KES.   It must have cost Woking about 10% per touch of the extra 40 plus % they are paying Loza. 
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 28, 2020, 05:56:28 PM
Add to that Mall, the two months wages they will be paying him (without incl the extra 42%) for January and February when all non league football is forced to close down for a mid season break ......so all in all significant savings made by the Linnets
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Grissles Oleary on December 28, 2020, 06:25:43 PM
For those of you who want to see what we have lost in Loza, Woking v Eastleigh is live on BT Sports at 12.30


Finished 0-0 I see.... didn't watch it........ did Loza get pulled off again ?


Good day for Loza then,played for a new team,pay rise and he got pulled off as well. ( The old ones are the best.)  :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 28, 2020, 07:17:01 PM
It's a little bit older than I think you realise Griss :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Grissles Oleary on December 28, 2020, 10:22:31 PM
It's a little bit older than I think you realise Griss :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:

I am now wracking my tiny brain to try and remember who said it originally? :dontknow:
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 28, 2020, 10:29:13 PM
 You can include B & G in the list Griss..... about 5/6 posts ago ...........great minds thinking alike again.......or maybe it's just because we have all been on this forum for yonks  :laughcry:
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Grissles Oleary on December 29, 2020, 02:28:08 AM
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2009/may/21/seven-deadly-sins-football-alf-ramsey-rodney-marsh
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 29, 2020, 07:47:46 PM
 :laughcry: :laughcry: Good read and well  refound Griss.....seems as if Mall may have heard it too , with his ref earlier to the orange.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: dillydilly on December 30, 2020, 10:27:35 AM
I fear that the muddy-pitch, FACup, “Up and at-‘em types will all be back pushing for a team of more tough guy defenders, 2 midfield workers, and 6 hooligans, when we get playing again.  It mustn’t happen.  The team against Torquay changed our fortunes, as predicted by Dilly on seeing the pre-match team sheet.  Should Dilly pick the team when we re-start ?  Of course he should.  He would have told Mourinho he was nuts getting rid of Salah, De Bruyne, Guadrado, etc....  The game is what you can see with the naked eye - not how many cliches you know !  Happy New Year to all !!!.......
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Mallard on December 30, 2020, 11:14:20 AM
Funny game is Football Dilly.  Shady Sam takes his new WBA to Anfield sits 10 behind the ball plays 6-4 formation and comes away with a point.  Few days later plays the same formation at home and gets beat and wiped out  5-0 and was lucky to get nil.

Go figure
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Dilligaf on December 30, 2020, 12:00:37 PM
There are plenty of youth teams out there dilly screaming out for coaches/managers...go offer your unique services to one of them....put your theories into practice....would like to see how you fair the other side of the armchair
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: dillydilly on December 30, 2020, 01:11:11 PM
Hi Mallard and DilligAf, and a genuine Happy New Year to you both.  In answer to the two points raised.  I have “gone figured” the WBA situation, and it is this....  Every game in a hundred, a team defending for the whole match can squeeze a win, but their method WILL lead to their relegation or thereabouts, by season end.   Nine times out of ten, the best team wins.  On Dilligaf’s suggestion, my theory is already put to the test, regularly as clockwork..  the best team wins nearly all the time. so all those teams at the top in any league are there through playing the best football.  They do this by picking match-winners, not stodgers, or “holding players”, or playing a “Number 10”, or a “diamond”.  I’ve touted Leipzig on here for a couple of years, since the great Barca team, and it should be a cracker against Mane and co !!
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 30, 2020, 01:28:34 PM
With the greatest respect (and I genuinely mean those words) Dilly, some of us have different interpretations of words.
If I say physically strong I am thinking of 80% of all players in the NL....you interpret it as "slogger".
If I say ball winner your interpretation is hooligan or something similar.
Football is a simple game but the requirements to be successful are different depending on the league, the available resources etc. Lynn are not able to fund 11 "total footballers" with searing pace and being part time will naturally not be as  strong or as well trained or even as quick as many of the other squads on a man for man basis.......so there have to be compromises.Leipzig would probably adjust the way they play if coming to The Walks on a cold January evening and playing on a boggy pitch.

Finally can I thank you for your posts this last year...they are always interesting,polite and well intentioned and of course you have introduced some new vocab to The Forum.....incl "the nipster". :cheers:
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Mallard on December 30, 2020, 02:29:40 PM
Wishing you the same Dilly.  Watching different ‘styles’ on a football pitch is what what makes this game so interesting.    Remember back to the Fash,Vinnie  Wimbledon who kicked, bullied, verbally abused their way through from the old Div 4 to Div One.  Dave Basset hit something that worked and they stuck to it.   Not the prettiest to watch but it worked for a few year and teams hated playing them.

Football results ain’t that easy to predict.   Otherwise you would have had the old 8 score draws up Dilly :cup2:
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: dillydilly on December 30, 2020, 11:12:35 PM
Well gents - Certainly agree with your assessment of the atmosphere - nothing more than hopefully enjoyable banter.  We do disagree on aspects of the game, but that’s no problem.  Just a quick nip at KES (!) - I do think “strong” is a highly exaggerated cliche in the game.  You’ll hear commentators and pundits saying “showed his strength” in a situation, when it was obvious that it was either balance or nipping through a gap, and with no contact whatsoever, never mind “strength” !  And I don’t think 80% of the NL players are “strong”.  Whenever we’ve been burned it’s by slippery nipsters !  We’ve lost one ( Loza), but if YouTube is right, Gyasi is an ideal replacement nipster - if he can leap the gap up to NL.  Finally, again HNY to you both, but I must continue to advise managers , etc, some/many I believe got the job by impressing Chairmen by cliches like “character” and “strength” in the interview !  That’s why managers are always getting sacked ! (IMVHO!!)
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Mallard on December 31, 2020, 08:45:45 AM
Have to agree with you Dilly about Football Managers and Cliche’s. There must be a course they all go on which teaches them all to use the same old spiel. Everyone must have a bet hate one of these that gets churned out time after time.

I’m gonna set the ball rolling with. ‘I’m looking for a reaction’    This normally gets trotted out after a team has been stuffed and the Manager is hoping the players don’t make him look at a tool in the next game.

Next.....
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 31, 2020, 01:00:10 PM
Well gents - Certainly agree with your assessment of the atmosphere - nothing more than hopefully enjoyable banter.  We do disagree on aspects of the game, but that’s no problem.  Just a quick nip at KES (!) - I do think “strong” is a highly exaggerated cliche in the game.  You’ll hear commentators and pundits saying “showed his strength” in a situation, when it was obvious that it was either balance or nipping through a gap, and with no contact whatsoever, never mind “strength” !  And I don’t think 80% of the NL players are “strong”.  Whenever we’ve been burned it’s by slippery nipsters !  We’ve lost one ( Loza), but if YouTube is right, Gyasi is an ideal replacement nipster - if he can leap the gap up to NL.  Finally, again HNY to you both, but I must continue to advise managers , etc, some/many I believe got the job by impressing Chairmen by cliches like “character” and “strength” in the interview !  That’s why managers are always getting sacked ! (IMVHO!!)


Oh come on Dilly you are pushing your luck now :laughcry: :laughcry:...you are making me think you have never played the game yourself.....NL players don't have physical strength (?) what planet are you on...even your nipsters rely on core strength and significant body and length strength......if you can't see that.....you need more than Specsavers........message me your address, I will send you a magnifying glass  :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on December 31, 2020, 01:05:00 PM
Back to the clichés:

I like "We defended well from front to back".
I especially like this because they seem to realise if they say from "back to front", it sounds even more daft.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Dilligaf on December 31, 2020, 05:40:18 PM
My feelings too KES...messi probably regarded as one of the greatest "nipsters" of all time....have you ever seen his core strength drills??....unbelievable to watch
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: dillydilly on January 01, 2021, 08:58:31 PM
We are always hearing about “Big and Strong” !  It’s such a macho cliche, because they never call a player “small”...  They get round it either by making out he “may have a “low centre of gravity (!!!”), but he’s “ So Strong !!  And who is the tactical genius all teams in the EPL, presumably “the Penalty box co-ordinator” who is employed on about 40 grand a week to shout “AWAY” in a cockney accent, every time the ball gets humped through the air into the Penalty Area ?!!  Do they go on a course, or something  ?!

Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Mallard on January 02, 2021, 05:03:59 PM
Loza had another bad day at the office.   

Booked early,  subbed off after 65mins and Woking lose 1-0 at home

Good piece of business Mr Chairman?
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: KES80 on January 02, 2021, 07:28:16 PM
Thanks for the update Mall.....looks like he's getting pulled off every match.
Title: Re: Jamar Loza
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 02, 2021, 07:34:40 PM
Thanks for the update Mall.....looks like he's getting pulled off every match.

Incredible Stamina!
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