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Title: Tennyson car park
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 10, 2021, 08:43:26 PM
https://www.west-norfolk.gov.uk/news/article/965/walks_car_park_improvements_completed?fbclid=IwAR1DuefmMWjCrTC4w9be1hUDfuwYeKS33IWpYyBz0pqEALdl_Hl9G9Sq358
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on May 10, 2021, 10:58:34 PM
Glad to see you can get 3 free hours for use of the park, was one the last free places to park in town, after they put pay and display on the quayside.
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 11, 2021, 08:38:30 AM
They've made a good job of it. Looks good.

I presume there's no point doing the same at hospital end, if there's thoughts of a new stand at that end.
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: dillydilly on May 11, 2021, 05:42:21 PM
Thatís very good news !  On the Hospital End, good question from B & Q.  We badly need a stand at the Hospital End, covered, and deeper, plus, IMHO, steeper terrace at  the Tennyson End.  I know itís money, money, money, but if we prefer this level or the League, and can sustain it, itís essential.  It would almost certainly be imperative if we are serious about the League, eventually.
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: TonyM on May 11, 2021, 05:49:44 PM
Really can't see that there is the finance within the club or the appetite within the council to spend taxpayer's money on a new stand.  There is also the view that it would just be 'good money after bad' and that any substantial investment would be better spent going towards a new ground (out of town) than developing the Walks which will always be massively compromised with it's location and drainage issues.
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Mallard on May 11, 2021, 06:02:31 PM
With You Tony in that one.  The Walks now has a ground capacity of in excess of 5,000.So until we regularly hit gates of approaching that level then what is the point of a stand to accommodate anymore would be fans.   Letís not forget itís not so long ago we were pulling in 500/600 fans for a home game.    When when we won the NLN The average was around 1400. Even for the top two games that season neither were a sell out, even with a large traveling away contingent
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Non League on May 12, 2021, 10:44:05 AM
I wonder how much the council value the land The Walks is on? Prime real estate where houses could be worth a small fortune. Park views, walking distance of train station that's straight into London. Developers dream.

Ideal for me if money was there to do a good stadium with council backing after selling the stadium land, locate it Greenyard Way, where the road infrastructure is already there. If logistically possible, have the main stand moved over from existing ground, have two terraced ends, and a brand new main stand that has top hospitality facilities. Giving size of land, can even build a few houses on there to recoup some of the money for the council (or go commercial to bring in jobs/investment to Lynn). There's also already a foot bridge going over the trainline so you can walk to the ground from Gaywood area (plus in future big games, links with the schools can see parking used at their places with a small fee going to them so the car network is distributed more away from the actual ground).

Logistically ideal, just unsure if council have that area/land earmarked for housing development. Fylde I always see as the template for new stadiums in the top level of non league if you want to go the full works.
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 12, 2021, 10:59:47 AM
I wonder how much the council value the land The Walks is on? Prime real estate where houses could be worth a small fortune. Park views, walking distance of train station that's straight into London. Developers dream.

Ideal for me if money was there to do a good stadium with council backing after selling the stadium land, locate it Greenyard Way, where the road infrastructure is already there. If logistically possible, have the main stand moved over from existing ground, have two terraced ends, and a brand new main stand that has top hospitality facilities. Giving size of land, can even build a few houses on there to recoup some of the money for the council (or go commercial to bring in jobs/investment to Lynn). There's also already a foot bridge going over the trainline so you can walk to the ground from Gaywood area (plus in future big games, links with the schools can see parking used at their places with a small fee going to them so the car network is distributed more away from the actual ground).

Logistically ideal, just unsure if council have that area/land earmarked for housing development. Fylde I always see as the template for new stadiums in the top level of non league if you want to go the full works.

An idea that has been around for a number of years, in one form or another.

A great chance to build something for the club and the local community. Sooner or later something serious is going to have to happen with the Walks, irrespective of the level the club plays at.

As long as a new stadium doesn't have a bloody running track between the supporters and pitch.

With regards to cost, could it even be self funding? Selling an attractive piece of real estate and using the money to buy and develope agricultural land sounds good.

Saddlebow as a location?   

:dontknow:

Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Attleborough Doug on May 12, 2021, 11:42:11 AM
I'm pretty sure that the Walks stadium and all the land around it known as the 'Walks' cannot be built on or sold for housing development unless an Act of Parliament is passed. It's protected in perpetuity I understand.
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Mallard on May 12, 2021, 12:25:11 PM
Doesnít the Trust has it registered as well as a Community asset ?
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: gs50 on May 12, 2021, 12:39:04 PM
Not the words I would use to describe it.
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: A47 Linnet on May 12, 2021, 02:05:26 PM
Attelborough Doug is spot on it has got a covernant on the ground and should
only used for football or sport. As for the car park being laid at Hospital End that would
be up to the club not the Council.
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 12, 2021, 06:52:48 PM
These Covenants are not as difficult to get removed as they used to be.

If it made the Council a few Bob, and released the Council from their responsibility towards the  Walks Stadium, my money would be on it being possible to do.

Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 12, 2021, 06:56:21 PM
Quote from: A47 Linnet link=topic=5704.msg68376#msg68376
As for the car park being laid at Hospital End that would be up to the club not the Council.

Correct, but so would the Tennyson End, which is why "ownership" was transfered back to Council.
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Ap on May 12, 2021, 07:09:32 PM
These Covenants are not as difficult to get removed as they used to be.

If it made the Council a few Bob, and released the Council from their responsibility towards the  Walks Stadium, my money would be on it being possible to do.

Only runs to 2024 according to a story on the Trust News pages. Would be a massive loss IMHO and any move would have to be sustainable, we don't want a Nene Park situation on our hands. Town centre grounds should be embraced but maybe I'm just a legacy fan!
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 12, 2021, 07:30:19 PM
These Covenants are not as difficult to get removed as they used to be.

If it made the Council a few Bob, and released the Council from their responsibility towards the  Walks Stadium, my money would be on it being possible to do.

Town centre grounds should be embraced but maybe I'm just a legacy fan!

Only a few years ago I would have said the same. If there was a proven plan to show that its possible to bring Walks up to the standard required, I'd love it to work.

Sadly, I don't think that can happen.
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on May 12, 2021, 07:54:06 PM
Iíve always thought a ground near the speedway would be the ideal spot if they were to make an out of town ground, most of the infrastructure is already in place. Or on the Gardman site.
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 12, 2021, 10:20:33 PM
Only runs to 2024 according to a story on the Trust News pages.


AP, I think that refers to the Walks Stadium being registered as an Asset of Community Value, and is nothing to do with the rumoured Covenant.

ACV's have to be re-registered every 5 years.

Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Nemesis on May 13, 2021, 09:33:35 AM
If there is  Covenant saying the Walks Stadium can only used for football or sport why was it necessary to register it as a CSV?
Was it just to preserve it as a stadium rather than a sports field?
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: westlynnmike on May 13, 2021, 10:45:48 AM
I wonder how much the council value the land The Walks is on? Prime real estate where houses could be worth a small fortune. Park views, walking distance of train station that's straight into London. Developers dream.

Ideal for me if money was there to do a good stadium with council backing after selling the stadium land, locate it Greenyard Way, where the road infrastructure is already there. If logistically possible, have the main stand moved over from existing ground, have two terraced ends, and a brand new main stand that has top hospitality facilities. Giving size of land, can even build a few houses on there to recoup some of the money for the council (or go commercial to bring in jobs/investment to Lynn). There's also already a foot bridge going over the trainline so you can walk to the ground from Gaywood area (plus in future big games, links with the schools can see parking used at their places with a small fee going to them so the car network is distributed more away from the actual ground).

Logistically ideal, just unsure if council have that area/land earmarked for housing development. Fylde I always see as the template for new stadiums in the top level of non league if you want to go the full works.

An idea that has been around for a number of years, in one form or another.

A great chance to build something for the club and the local community. Sooner or later something serious is going to have to happen with the Walks, irrespective of the level the club plays at.

As long as a new stadium doesn't have a bloody running track between the supporters and pitch.

With regards to cost, could it even be self funding? Selling an attractive piece of real estate and using the money to buy and develope agricultural land sounds good.

Saddlebow as a location?   

:dontknow:

Saddlebow  :dontknow:

Stick it on the Speedway Arena land  :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: westlynnmike on May 13, 2021, 10:47:52 AM
Attelborough Doug is spot on it has got a covernant on the ground and should
only used for football or sport. As for the car park being laid at Hospital End that would
be up to the club not the Council.

I wonder if Stephen Cleeve still has that "illegal" Parking Meter  :dontknow: :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: gs50 on May 13, 2021, 11:39:45 AM
at least it got the car park done. Wonder how many cars it had ruined over the years
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: dillydilly on May 16, 2021, 11:54:22 AM
Another ground could be good.  I donít go with the idea that we need an over5,000 crowd to justify improved and/or covered terraces.  Their provision might well attract players, too.  How do clubs like Eastleigh pay for their superb modern terrace additions . We have more potential to pull in 5,ooo crowds than most in this league, but the ground needs to be part of the snowball....
Title: Re: Tennyson car park
Post by: Mallard on May 16, 2021, 01:25:07 PM
I would thought a decent road network would be more attractive to players.  Northern based players must love the A17! 
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