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Title: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: westlynnmike on June 04, 2021, 03:14:26 PM
How many of these will still be here when we go Full Time as Stephen Cleeve has stated will happen.

Kingís Lynn Town have confirmed the retained list for the new National 2021/22 League season.

The following players are under contract:

Ross Barrows
Alex Brown
Kyle Callan-McFadden
Sonny Carey
Michael Clunan
Tyler Denton
Tai Fleming
Cameron King
Rory McAuley
Chris Smith
Dayle Southwell
Paul Jones

Exercised option:
Michael Gyasi

Offered new terms:
Aaron Jones
Jordan Richards

Released:
Alex Kiwomya
Sam Kelly
Ryan Jarvis

The club who like to thank those who have been released for their efforts whilst with the club and wish them well with their new clubs.

 
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Non League on June 04, 2021, 03:44:36 PM
I'd have thought Chris Smith would leave if club goes full time. Thought that was one of the reasons he originally joined, the part time fitting around his studies/future work.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: TonyM on June 04, 2021, 04:08:03 PM
Will get on my soapbox again - why oh why were this many offered multi year deals?  Basically 8 defenders on contract already for next season and it was hardly an area of strength last year but the club are now reliant on players leaving 'by mutual consent' (as may apply to Smith and McAuley) or potentially loaning players out to free up budget / squad gaps.

Also don't understand the signing of Gyasi?  Basically he had almost half a season to 'make his case' and I didn't see anything that looked like he could be part of a competitive NL side, sorry if that sounds harsh but think how many times pre-furlough IC talked about 'men and boys' and Gyasi certainly isn't the former in football terms.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 04, 2021, 04:37:53 PM
I think that's about what I expected at this stage........Richards and Jones are worth a place and Gyasi to my mind has shown that he might be.

I expect a number of the contracted players to leave over the next few weeks......Brown, Smith, McAuley. Think Southwell may depend on what forward talent Lynn manage to entice to the Walks.
When everyone was available Clunan was often more of a squad player than first eleven, so whether he is happy with that remains to be seen. Also question marks over King's fitness........so we could well end up with 10-12 and need to bring in say 8/9.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: gs50 on June 04, 2021, 04:46:22 PM
Has Coleman left.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 04, 2021, 05:38:01 PM
No. Coleman and Nash, the two new signings not incl. on list for some reason given thatthe new keeper is
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 04, 2021, 05:41:48 PM
https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/league-two-released-free-vale-5414009

Some options above
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 04, 2021, 06:16:16 PM
Some league clubs have released 15/17, so hopefully Lynn van find a couple of affordable centre halves and strikers out of that lot.

Think it also backs up Tony's point about long term contracts...much of the NL will be full of League 2 players next season......... a squad of former NLN standard players are unlikely to be able to compete with League 2 standard players for example
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: kenny r on June 04, 2021, 06:17:30 PM
Morecambe won the League 2 play off final and two days later released all players and the Manager.

This includes a centre half Nathanial Knight-Percival who was born in Cambridge and whose family still live there.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Mallard on June 04, 2021, 06:52:01 PM
How about Josh Coulson.?  Released by Orient.  Ex Cambridge stalwart
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 04, 2021, 07:40:10 PM
Plenty of good calls out there
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 04, 2021, 07:45:49 PM
However, again as Tony has touched on, Lynn need to off load a few of the on contract players to make space and the concern is that if Covid remains an issue, next season 's non league fixtures may again be affected.......I could easily see a situation where leagues below NLN and NLS were compromised, so not easy to jettison players downwards to lower leagues, if they don't have options
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: dillydilly on June 09, 2021, 12:54:25 PM
Just taken my first look a Sundire, on YouTube.  Yes, he has football in him, and wins the ball well when he doesnít have it.  Looks similar in style to Gyasi.  Iím afraid not many of last years hotch-potch squad ( Covidís fault), looked capable of truly competing in this league, but, with additions of the standard needed, could do a useful ďcompetitiveĒ job.  King was the player who, for me, was obviously capable of being successful at this level, so my fingers are crossed he can reach his best level of fitness.  I also think Southwell would do well in a passing team, one that played to his feet, or through balls, rather than balls pumped high and wide.  I hope we have a team who can play an attacking game, with fluid movement.  Interesting times ahead....
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Wingwizzard on June 09, 2021, 01:27:27 PM
I  personally Think that there will be a huge amount of players kicking around soon that would fit our level  as they drop out of the top 4  leagues  so I think the manager is just waiting for the right people. saying that on what I have seen  a fully  fit Simeon Jackson  would be  striker for us IMO.
 
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 09, 2021, 03:54:11 PM
I  personally Think that there will be a huge amount of players kicking around soon that would fit our level  as they drop out of the top 4  leagues  so I think the manager is just waiting for the right people. saying that on what I have seen  a fully  fit Simeon Jackson  would be  striker for us IMO.


Yes agree on both counts, but also from what IC has said, it appears Lynn maybe a player's 3rd or 4th choice, so it's a waiting game until the players options decrease and Lynn are suddenly a realistic option
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Dazzarugby65 on June 09, 2021, 06:51:11 PM
 :oldman" :farmer:  Nice to see GASHY has found a nice local club close to his home . I feel he is better than the level he is going to be playing at , but he has been there, done it and collected the medals too prove it. Peterborough North Stars gain in a big way.  Good luck GASHY and thanks for the memories, you will always be welcome at KLTFC and hopefully we will get to see you again soon. :oldman" :farmer:
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: dillydilly on June 10, 2021, 12:25:00 PM
Yes, Good luck to MG at PNS, and thanks for the good times.  Here is a chance now for our team to join the modern game, a game that the most successful teams often have no Centre Forward, particularly not a Big One, and especially like the old days, a Big One with No Teeth !  Fluidity is now the benchmark, as we saw too often from opponents in the season just finished.  The former Striker method was OK in FA Cup ties on horrendously muddy pitches.  The approaching In/Out flux of players should be very interesting.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Linnet on June 10, 2021, 01:55:31 PM
Sorry lads Gashy has gone to Peterborough Sports not Peterborough Northern Star
He will be playing in Southern League Premier League Central not UCL so at Step 3 Non League
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: GrahamB on June 10, 2021, 03:01:21 PM
Chris Smith leaves, contract terminated by mutual consent.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: dillydilly on June 10, 2021, 05:41:31 PM
Disappointed Chris Smith has gone.  But changing times.  I thought he was a good player, and it will be interesting to see where he ends up.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Nemesis on June 10, 2021, 07:40:08 PM
Somewhere where he can complete his BEng (Hons) degree to Loughborough University.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 10, 2021, 08:34:17 PM
Def improved while with the Linnets, but IMHO, not quite quick enough or tall enough for what we need at centre half
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Mallard on June 10, 2021, 08:59:35 PM
Chris Smith did a decent enough job for us at NLN.  Thought last season he was a little light weight and could be bullied by strikers at NL.  Was prone to the odd Fau Paux when overplaying.

Wish the lad well.  He was a big part of getting the Club promoted to step 1. 

I guess now June is here we will see some action in the transfer front with Clubs starting to put squads together etc.

Exciting times
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: dillydilly on June 10, 2021, 09:06:39 PM
No offence to MG or RJ, but I think we should not try to replace them with like for like.  Their leaving gives us an opportunity fora quicker, more fluent team, to cope better with the quick and slippery players that this league has in abundance.  It was them who caused our numerous defeats, in general.  We all favour different styles, but all I hope to see this season is opponents trying to keep us at bay, rather than the other way round !
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Mallard on June 10, 2021, 09:18:22 PM
Dilly, that big one with no teeth.  I think I saw her sitting at the bar down the pub tonight.  She asked to be remembered to you.  She had ĎLoveí tattooed on the knuckles of one hand  with ĎHATí tattled on the knuckles of the other.  She was missing a finger.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 10, 2021, 09:38:33 PM
...oh the old hat trick !
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 10, 2021, 09:39:38 PM
Dilly, me old mucker, we already have Coleman for RJ
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 19, 2021, 10:41:41 AM
https://www.kltown.co.uk/2021/06/19/aaron-jones-agrees-new-deal/
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: dillydilly on June 19, 2021, 11:19:12 AM
Morning all, and thanks to KES and Mall for the info about the person sitting at the bar.  She sounds like exactly the Centre-half youíre looking for.  If not, perhaps she has a brother of the same ilk - maybe a Spitfire tattooed on his forehead !Ö. I take the point that Coleman replaces RJ, but I must admit, I didnít really notice him on the streaming last season.  I hope heís quicker than Jarv.  My main concern at the mo is all these friendlies lined up, good ones for a change, but at the moment we have the same team that struggled so much last season.  Not long to go, and new signings essential, but time is moving on at a pace.  Any knowledge out there that I donít have ?
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 19, 2021, 12:35:30 PM
Signings imminent according to the end of the piece above (all presumably with " 'ARD " tattooed on their foreheads Dilly :laughcry:)
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 19, 2021, 12:39:07 PM
One that won't be rejoining Lynn:

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57532440
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Mallard on June 19, 2021, 12:39:19 PM
When does the squad return for pre-season.  Plenty of runs along the beach to kick off with?

Maybe IC will be chucking in a good few trialists in the opening couple of Friendlies.  I guess the likes of Norwich and MK will come and play a different 11 in each half.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 19, 2021, 12:51:36 PM
Maybe too many pebbles on that beach :laughcry:, Sunny Hunny an option tho
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 19, 2021, 01:46:19 PM
Just looking round the clubs, seems most are in the same boat Dilly... little major transfer action so far......Weymouth have added a couple of  youngsters, Eastleigh have kept their keeper, little activity from Barnet, Wealdstone etc
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Mallard on June 19, 2021, 04:29:11 PM
I see after being knockout of the play-offs, Chesterfield have released 13 players.   Leaving them with just 20 players on contract.   Madness for non League football, but thatís the World Kings Lynn are competing in.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 19, 2021, 05:09:56 PM
To me Chesterfield just seemed to build a team by taking the best players from other sides....the manager left Gloucester saying he would only take one player, but then went back for more, played Weymouth, liked Whelan so had him, liked Mitchell at Lynn, took him just before they played at The Walks etc etc. They then had long term injuries to Denton and Asante which affected their season end.

I know it's a ruthless, dog eat dog league dominated in more ways than one, by the wealthy clubs, but I am not a fan of sides that spend absurd amounts and effectively buy their way up the leagues, like Salford  IMO seemed to, ..... . so refreshing that Harrogate and Sutton have done well.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 19, 2021, 06:04:03 PM

I know it's a ruthless, dog eat dog league dominated in more ways than one, by the wealthy clubs, but I am not a fan of sides that spend absurd amounts and effectively buy their way up the leagues...

Agree with you Kes, although I don't mind the clubs spending big if the money has come from what the Club has generated themselves. That way, they will naturally find their own level.

Sooner or later the Clubs that buy their way up the league, run out of steam. Usually big fish in little ponds to start off with, but within a couple of seasons they become small fish in a bigger pond.

Even if the amount of money being put into these Clubs each season remains the same, it will be insufficient to maintain the momentum the Clubs have had in previous seasons.

This can then lead to the floating supporters losing interest, so gates fall. The Benefactor (s) issues the "use it or lose it" warning, loses interest when the Supporters don't respond and the penny finally drops (or runs out of money themselves), and the Club is then on the slippery slope.

Clubs are hungry beasts. Once they have been fed, you can't just stop feeding them without experiencing an adverse reaction.

Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 19, 2021, 06:17:37 PM
Yes agreed.

I know caps on salaries are out of favour.

I would like to see a rule whereby if a player signs for a club during or at the very start of a season, he then has to remain with that club till at least the end of that season
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Dazzarugby65 on June 19, 2021, 07:08:19 PM

I know it's a ruthless, dog eat dog league dominated in more ways than one, by the wealthy clubs, but I am not a fan of sides that spend absurd amounts and effectively buy their way up the leagues...

Agree with you Kes, although I don't mind the clubs spending big if the money has come from what the Club has generated themselves. That way, they will naturally find their own level.

Sooner or later the Clubs that buy their way up the league, run out of steam. Usually big fish in little ponds to start off with, but within a couple of seasons they become small fish in a bigger pond.

Even if the amount of money being put into these Clubs each season remains the same, it will be insufficient to maintain the momentum the Clubs have had in previous seasons.

This can then lead to the floating supporters losing interest, so gates fall. The Benefactor (s) issues the "use it or lose it" warning, loses interest when the Supporters don't respond and the penny finally drops (or runs out of money themselves), and the Club is then on the slippery slope.

Clubs are hungry beasts. Once they have been fed, you can't just stop feeding them without experiencing an adverse reaction.

 :oldman" :farmer: I have to agree with you guys, but this happens in all the leagues from premier down. Chelsea and Man City were 2nd division sides who flouted with odd spells in the top flight of football when I was a child, now they are massively benefactor funded clubs, buying trophies for the cabinet. Closer too home Histon, St. Neots, AFC Hornchurch all had money too burn at one point but then the bubble burst. Hornchurch are now rebuilding again but will they have as much money as before?  Blackburn won the premier league with Jack Walkerís money, where are they now ? at a level more suited too them, I would say. As you say, self funded clubs are no issue for me either, but just buying trophies to me takes away some of the joy and pain that football meant to me as a child. :farmer: :oldman"
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 19, 2021, 07:15:11 PM

I know it's a ruthless, dog eat dog league dominated in more ways than one, by the wealthy clubs, but I am not a fan of sides that spend absurd amounts and effectively buy their way up the leagues...

Agree with you Kes, although I don't mind the clubs spending big if the money has come from what the Club has generated themselves. That way, they will naturally find their own level.

Sooner or later the Clubs that buy their way up the league, run out of steam. Usually big fish in little ponds to start off with, but within a couple of seasons they become small fish in a bigger pond.

Even if the amount of money being put into these Clubs each season remains the same, it will be insufficient to maintain the momentum the Clubs have had in previous seasons.

This can then lead to the floating supporters losing interest, so gates fall. The Benefactor (s) issues the "use it or lose it" warning, loses interest when the Supporters don't respond and the penny finally drops (or runs out of money themselves), and the Club is then on the slippery slope.

Clubs are hungry beasts. Once they have been fed, you can't just stop feeding them without experiencing an adverse reaction.

 :oldman" :farmer: I have to agree with you guys, but this happens in all the leagues from premier down. Chelsea and Man City were 2nd division sides who flouted with odd spells in the top flight of football when I was a child, now they are massively benefactor funded clubs, buying trophies for the cabinet. Closer too home Histon, St. Neots, AFC Hornchurch all had money too burn at one point but then the bubble burst. Hornchurch are now rebuilding again but will they have as much money as before?  Blackburn won the premier league with Jack Walkerís money, where are they now ? at a level more suited too them, I would say. As you say, self funded clubs are no issue for me either, but just buying trophies to me takes away some of the joy and pain that football meant to me as a child. :farmer: :oldman"

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

I did mean to include that it happens at all levels, in my original post.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Mallard on June 19, 2021, 07:38:12 PM
Dazza surely we have to thank Stephen Cleeve and his deep pockets for getting us to the pinnacle of Non League Football.    So letís be careful what we wish for.   Without his input and financing we could well still have been at Step 3

I see recall he has put in somewhere around 150k a year.   A real drop in the ocean compared to the likes of Man City and Chelsea, but he still put it in.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Dazzarugby65 on June 20, 2021, 09:17:37 AM
Dazza surely we have to thank Stephen Cleeve and his deep pockets for getting us to the pinnacle of Non League Football.    So letís be careful what we wish for.   Without his input and financing we could well still have been at Step 3

I see recall he has put in somewhere around 150k a year.   A real drop in the ocean compared to the likes of Man City and Chelsea, but he still put it in.

Agreed Mall, but in each season we have been promoted since the UCL,there have been bigger, better supported and better financed clubs than ourselves. York City and Chester City are the first two I can think of at this moment for example.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Mallard on June 20, 2021, 09:53:10 AM
When we went up from step 5, we were the biggest team in The UCL.   Letís not forget we only gained promotion because Long Buckby ( League winners) declined promotion.  Then we were a top team at step 4 when we pipped Coalville, who blew up at the end of the season.

Promotion from step 3 came via the Play-offs when IC came back to the club, so we had the gods shinning on us at the end of the season ( coupled together with SCís financing).  Then in NLN we went up on PPG, after the season was pulled just  as we were on a poor run of form. 

Stephen Cleeve has supported all of these promotions so letís not think it was done without his financial help.

Iím sure next season he will need to do the same to keep us in The National League.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 20, 2021, 10:59:46 AM
I wonder if there are any plans in place to make the Club self sufficient.  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: dillydilly on June 20, 2021, 07:29:37 PM
Some on here are pointing out that money buys progress, and many clubs use it, then subsequently lose it.  My point is more about football than about the cash angle, though I realise the link.  I believe every team does a ďChesterfieldĒ, all the time.  All teams are formed by taking on players who didnít quite make it in a bigger and more talented team, plus nicking the best players from below.  It describes the whole system since it started at the turn of the 20th century.  Stephen Cleeve is the first one whose generosity has enabled us to make any real progress within that system.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: dillydilly on June 20, 2021, 07:34:43 PM
I meant to add that I like Kesís idea of contracted players having to stay at their clubs throughout a season, and not being allowed to move to another club until it is over.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 21, 2021, 02:23:07 PM
Some on here are pointing out that money buys progress, and many clubs use it, then subsequently lose it.  My point is more about football than about the cash angle, though I realise the link.  I believe every team does a ďChesterfieldĒ, all the time.  All teams are formed by taking on players who didnít quite make it in a bigger and more talented team, plus nicking the best players from below.  It describes the whole system since it started at the turn of the 20th century.  Stephen Cleeve is the first one whose generosity has enabled us to make any real progress within that system.

Hi Dilly.

I wouldn't disagree with most of your post, apart from the last sentence.

Generosity is not the way I would describe it but it's easily proven how "generous" previous owners have also been over the years, with the Clubs that have carried  the Town's name and played at the Walks.

Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 21, 2021, 02:53:09 PM
I really enjoy this forum for the differing viewpoints.......I am chuckling to myself having read Dilly's post and B &G's reply in relation to it !

I disagree with most of dear Dilly's post and infact have most sympathy with the last sentence  :laughcry:

There are certain wealthy teams who do build their teams by largely creaming off the best from clubs around them in the same league,which is personally what I felt Chesterfield did a fair bit of last season, but not too many. Most have a combination of locally found/academy players, plus a few promising players from lower leagues and foreign leagues, and then some from other sides in the same league.

Re the last sentence... personally a big fan of the Trust model, but also a big fan of what SC has brought to the club over the last few years........perhaps instead of generosity, I would use input, energy, tenacity, money, love of the game and some nous too.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 21, 2021, 02:54:28 PM
I am assuming we will have news of the signings in the next 48 hrs ?
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Mallard on June 21, 2021, 04:25:36 PM
Yes has to be any day now KES. One looks very interesting.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 21, 2021, 06:11:27 PM
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Re the last sentence... personally a big fan of the Trust model, but also a big fan of what SC has brought to the club over the last few years........perhaps instead of generosity, I would use input, energy, tenacity, money, love of the game and some nous too.

I'll give you the money theory.

Let's hope it doesn't stop flowing in (or that it already has).

Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Mallard on June 21, 2021, 06:25:38 PM
In fairness B&G. As much as this level is new to the club on the field the same has to apply off it.

Clubs of long standing at this level have a full compliment of money spinners swelling the coffers.

Big monies coming in on Sponsorship deals. A fully up to speed commercial department and a Supporters Club sticking in decent amounts.  Just a few examples.

This will all take time for us to play catch up.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 21, 2021, 06:58:09 PM

Clubs of long standing at this level have a full compliment of money spinners swelling the coffers.

Big monies coming in on Sponsorship deals. A fully up to speed commercial department and a Supporters Club sticking in decent amounts.  Just a few examples.


I'm all for it!

 :scarf:
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 21, 2021, 07:14:53 PM
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Re the last sentence... personally a big fan of the Trust model, but also a big fan of what SC has brought to the club over the last few years........perhaps instead of generosity, I would use input, energy, tenacity, money, love of the game and some nous too.

I'll give you the money theory.

Let's hope it doesn't stop flowing in (or that it already has).

Yes will be interesting to see what level budgets are at for the coming season
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 21, 2021, 07:16:15 PM
Yes has to be any day now KES. One looks very interesting.

You big tease Mall ! :laughcry:

It's an exciting time this as the squad has a complete rebuild
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 21, 2021, 07:19:18 PM
Yes Mall, re the income streams, we do need to see improvements all round...maybe the FOTL is about to morph into a supporters club which will expand to be worthy of the name and the current level
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on June 21, 2021, 07:51:12 PM
In fairness B&G. As much as this level is new to the club on the field the same has to apply off it.

Clubs of long standing at this level have a full compliment of money spinners swelling the coffers.

Big monies coming in on Sponsorship deals. A fully up to speed commercial department and a Supporters Club sticking in decent amounts.  Just a few examples.

This will all take time for us to play catch up.
Mallard there was a superb Commercial department and supporters club 15 or so years ago but despite large sums raised the club still went tits up!
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 21, 2021, 08:22:03 PM
In fairness B&G. As much as this level is new to the club on the field the same has to apply off it.

Clubs of long standing at this level have a full compliment of money spinners swelling the coffers.

Big monies coming in on Sponsorship deals. A fully up to speed commercial department and a Supporters Club sticking in decent amounts.  Just a few examples.

This will all take time for us to play catch up.
Mallard there was a superb Commercial department and supporters club 15 or so years ago but despite large sums raised the club still went tits up!

I remember it well. Really puts our current efforts to shame.

IMHO, a perfect example of why Supporters Clubs should get a say as to where the money raised is being spent, and not just hand it over to the owners to do with as they see fit.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 21, 2021, 08:26:12 PM
Yes, absolutely agree. Maybe there is a possibility (albeit slim) that if we have a decent Supporters Club and The Trust and between them they generate decent sums, that there just be a little bit more supporters input in the running of the club
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Mallard on June 21, 2021, 08:44:48 PM
Thatís external.   Those on the inside have the real power to generate some serious money.

I seem to recall that during our promotion year from the NLN there were weeks when SC was on Twitter begging for a match sponsor and even on the odd occasion that even failed.

The Commercial dept really do need to step up to the plate this coming season.  Talk the Talk and Walk the Walk.

Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 21, 2021, 09:30:55 PM
Who makes up "The Commercial Department" currently ?
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: m a hill on June 22, 2021, 01:10:18 PM
I thought Rory was kicked out for suspected drug dealing
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 22, 2021, 02:11:26 PM
I thought Rory was kicked out for suspected drug dealing

 :dontknow:

I'm lost on this one. I can't quite work out what that's got to do with the price of apples.

Or is that classed as a commercial activity these days?   
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 22, 2021, 02:28:40 PM
Yeah,kinda threw me too........to the extent I thought I'd let someone reply first ha ha...maybe it's just in ref to the original thread title
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Mallard on June 22, 2021, 03:13:34 PM
The way forward to the new Supporters group.  Shoot from the hip. Malcolm isnít going to shy to have his say,  no matter if itís a subject totally unrelated
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 22, 2021, 03:22:35 PM
A ha....now the thread title fiends of the Linnets makes more sense :laughcry:
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 22, 2021, 03:40:09 PM
Can only think that there are some detailed discussions on going re new signings .... it's taking a while, but very understandable I guess.......got to get the best people for the job that they possibly can and of course most players at this level have agents which makes it all more complex.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on June 22, 2021, 04:09:37 PM
A ha....now the thread title fiends of the Linnets makes more sense :laughcry:




O, you noticed!   :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 22, 2021, 04:17:57 PM
Not much gets passed me........unless it can break into a half hearted trot :laughcry:
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: kenny r on June 22, 2021, 05:04:00 PM
Or even 'past'  you! LOL
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 22, 2021, 05:13:45 PM
 :laughcry:thank you for correcting....I do hate it when people get basic grammar  wrong on here......and now I have gone and done it myself..
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: m a hill on June 22, 2021, 05:35:25 PM
I brought up Rory because his name was on the retain list and he shouldnít have been on it dah
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: KES80 on June 22, 2021, 05:46:05 PM
I think he's still on the list but then "suspended" until further notice from the club.... The court case has been put back a few weeks due to time demands on the Crown Court, I believe
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: m a hill on June 22, 2021, 07:30:45 PM
I believe he has been barred from the club
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: westlynnmike on June 22, 2021, 07:44:39 PM
Innocent until proved guilty Malcom?

Suspended not Released or sacked yet.
Title: Re: Retained and Departed Players
Post by: m a hill on June 22, 2021, 08:59:51 PM
I must have mis read when it stated he had been banned from the club
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