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Title: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 13, 2021, 02:18:28 PM
I see clubs have started calling pre season games off because of Covid outbreaks in their squad.   Players having to isolate etc.

So after next Monday, if a club has an outbreak of Covid will the squad’s have to isolate this causing games to be postponed ?
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 13, 2021, 03:10:53 PM
It's going to be utter chaos as case rates zoom up. I guess if all Elite Players are double jabbed they could be exempt from self isolating (?)
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: dillydilly on July 14, 2021, 10:10:36 AM
Much as I hope it’s a great season, I don’t believe anywhere should be opening at the moment.  This thing is not a quitter, and would grab the chance of mutating.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 14, 2021, 11:46:22 AM
Much as I hope it’s a great season, I don’t believe anywhere should be opening at the moment.  This thing is not a quitter, and would grab the chance of mutating.


Fully agree
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 14, 2021, 11:49:20 AM
Much as I hope it’s a great season, I don’t believe anywhere should be opening at the moment.  This thing is not a quitter, and would grab the chance of mutating.


Fully agree

Me too.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 14, 2021, 11:52:14 AM
With the lifting of restrictions on Monday it throws it back on the individual on how they wish to conduct themselves.

My question was based around playing squads.  As in with rising infection rates once one player has Covid will the squad have to self isolate meaning games being called off.   Or will games go ahead despite players having Covid ?
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 14, 2021, 12:03:58 PM
There seems to be a general move towards those who have been double jabbed, no longer having to self isolate :dontknow:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 14, 2021, 12:08:30 PM
So players with Covid can just continue to play, if feeling well enough.   Will testing within clubs still be carried out ?
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 14, 2021, 01:36:49 PM
So players with Covid can just continue to play, if feeling well enough.   Will testing within clubs still be carried out ?

Surely the Clubs have at least a moral responsibility towards their supporters and the public in general.

So, I won't be holding my breath on that one.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 14, 2021, 01:39:13 PM
Lots of unanswered questions with people being unsure on what happens from Monday.

Seems like face masks are to be worn in some indoor spaces but not others.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: TonyM on July 14, 2021, 02:56:16 PM
I think people are trying to make things harder than they really are.  The rules regarding those who are infected (positive test) are pretty much unchanged ie they have to isolate, and this will continue.  What is being proposed is that from the 16th August, those who are double jabbed (not sure if this would include some or all of our squad) would not have to isolate if they have come into contact with a positive case but instead can test regularly to remain at work.  Obviously if they then produce a positive test they would then have to isolate but this easing of 'unnecessary' isolations should mean less fixtures being lost.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 14, 2021, 03:37:06 PM
Some clarity there Tone.  So fingers crossed that clubs don’t lose to many players to positive cases.  Or if they do it doesn’t effect games being called off
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 14, 2021, 03:41:10 PM
Wasn't it said last season that regular testing of the Squad was too expensive?  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on July 15, 2021, 06:40:34 AM
Wasn't it said last season that regular testing of the Squad was too expensive?  :dontknow:

Make them go to their local chemists and get their own. Save a fortune . :countingmoney:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: TonyM on July 15, 2021, 08:34:30 AM
Wasn't it said last season that regular testing of the Squad was too expensive?  :dontknow:

Think we are now in 'different times', if any of the players have kids they will probably be familiar with weekly testing and I know of a number of employers who now insist on weekly / regular testing by employees who come onto site added to the fact that the availability of testing kits is much wider than 6-9 months ago.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 15, 2021, 10:36:01 AM
Wasn't it said last season that regular testing of the Squad was too expensive?  :dontknow:

Think we are now in 'different times', if any of the players have kids they will probably be familiar with weekly testing and I know of a number of employers who now insist on weekly / regular testing by employees who come onto site added to the fact that the availability of testing kits is much wider than 6-9 months ago.

I presume you are referring to the readily available Lateral Flow tests. Previously they were talking about PCR rather than the Anitgen test (i.e rapid testing). Apparently it's the PCR test that are the most accurate and the one's Clubs would need to use to be able to obtain accurate enough results.

Basically, it seems that the Lateral Flow tests are aimed at the "wider community", whereas "groups" should preferably use PCR testing.

I think the cost was originally around £60 per (PCR) test, but presumably it's not as expensive now as it was at the beginning of the Pandemic.

 :dontknow:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: fenlander on July 15, 2021, 03:04:43 PM
I am lead to believe PCR tests can vary in price, with the cheapest now costing around £60 and the most expensive costing over £300. Quite a broad range, but no real sign of a reduction.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 15, 2021, 03:47:22 PM
Two rooms of the clinic I work in, are used for PCR testing.....£160 a pop !
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 15, 2021, 04:13:18 PM
I suppose if  Clubs wants to charge premium prices, they can't really complain if they have to pay premium prices.   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: m a hill on July 16, 2021, 07:00:50 AM
What I can’t understand is people who won’t have the jabs don’t they know they are putting other people in danger we will never beat this virus while people are refusing the jabs imo it should be made compulsory,if not then we will just have to learn to live with it just like we have with the Flu rant over
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 16, 2021, 05:20:09 PM
I would respectfully suggest our current predicament is not so much to do with lack of vaccine take up...which on the whole has been very high and brilliantly rolled out by the NHS...........it is more to do with putting business before health, refusing to lockdown borders before too late, funding an inadequate test and trace system (given to cronies and Tory financial supporters rather than pre existing experts in the field) and childish rhetoric from the PM giving false hope to those gullible enough to believe him. Decisions based on the science/data...my ar*e....1200 scientists from around the world currently saying Monday is reckless and unethical.

The sad irony, is that the best way to look after the economy in a pandemic, is to put health and people first !
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 16, 2021, 05:54:43 PM
What I can’t understand is people who won’t have the jabs don’t they know they are putting other people in danger we will never beat this virus while people are refusing the jabs imo it should be made compulsory,if not then we will just have to learn to live with it just like we have with the Flu rant over

I like your comment on people and their attitude to the vacinne. I'd like to see everyone have the double jab. Would a Covid passport really be so bad?  :dontknow:

Not so sure about making it compulsory though. That could be the thin edge of the wedge. Who knows where that kind of action would end.

As Kes says in his post, 100's of scientists are against the lifting of restrictions next week. Personally I can see it being a disaster. It's far too soon to fully open up, and to ask people to make their own decisions on such a subject.

One of the problems we have seen previously is that too many people didn't think the rules applied to them. Far too selective when it came to what rules they were going to obey, and which ones they woudn't.

Football is a typical example with some favoured supporters being allowed in to watch the club's they support, sponsors allowed to attend and even have match day meal, ex players told they can attend games and if questioned, to say they were part of the ground keeping staff. All when games were supposed to be behind closed doors.

With the above attitudes during the height of the Pandemic, what on earth are we going to get when  people are allowed to make their own decisions?

Maybe we need to be even more careful from Monday, with regards to where we go and who we socialise with.. :dontknow:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2021, 06:02:10 PM
Just seen the Thurlow Nunn League fixture list.  It has been front loaded in the expectation of yet another lockdown of Non League Football.

They have front loaded it that much that half of the fixtures will be played by the end of Nov.  All team will have played each other at least once.

I wonder what provisions have been made at National League level for the non attendance of fans ?   
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 16, 2021, 06:03:24 PM
Just seen the Thurlow Nunn League fixture list.  It has been front loaded in the expectation of yet another lockdown of Non League Football.

They have front loaded it that much that half of the fixtures will be played by the end of Nov.  All team will have played each other at least once.

I wonder what provisions have been made at National League level for the non attendance of fans ?

If they have made provisions, it will probably be a secret..
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 16, 2021, 06:05:59 PM
Surely the Clubs and their owners won’t be mugged off a 2nd time ?  Must be something In writing for ‘what if’. 

Can’t let it happen again.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on July 16, 2021, 06:49:11 PM
I would respectfully suggest our current predicament is not so much to do with lack of vaccine take up...which on the whole has been very high and brilliantly rolled out by the NHS...........it is more to do with putting business before health, refusing to lockdown borders before too late, funding an inadequate test and trace system (given to cronies and Tory financial supporters rather than pre existing experts in the field) and childish rhetoric from the PM giving false hope to those gullible enough to believe him. Decisions based on the science/data...my ar*e....1200 scientists from around the world currently saying Monday is reckless and unethical.

The sad irony, is that the best way to look after the economy in a pandemic, is to put health and people first !

 :clap: Spot on.

You can see it with schools. A big song and dance is being made about the number isolating as contacts, but that’s overshadowing the main story that there are more young people infected than in January, and that the age profile of those being hospitalised is decreasing this time around.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: m a hill on July 17, 2021, 05:29:14 AM
With the numbers rising it’s making me wonder are these the people who wouldn’t have the jabs
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on July 17, 2021, 07:16:51 AM
With the numbers rising it’s making me wonder are these the people who wouldn’t have the jabs
.
Socially distancing correctly would help greatly.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 17, 2021, 08:30:04 AM
That’s kicked into the long grass from Monday.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 17, 2021, 08:34:52 AM
With the numbers rising it’s making me wonder are these the people who wouldn’t have the jabs
.

Or people who previously ignored lock down and social distancing rules?   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 17, 2021, 08:42:11 AM
That’s a bit one sided B&G.   Others higher up the food chain have to take some responsibility.  Not that they will of course.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: dillydilly on July 17, 2021, 09:05:47 AM
Excellent comments, imo, on the “Freedom Day”, and the comparison with about 1200 scientists worldwide being very critical of it.  The PM has convinced so many gullible people that it’s time to reclaim normality, and so many, over recent years, have been convinced that we can have our cake and eat it, wherever and whenever we want.  Very sad, and actually very stupid.  No one is “free” to endanger the lives of others, by taking no further precautions, and grabbing “freedom”, just because they want to .
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 17, 2021, 09:08:35 AM
That’s a bit one sided B&G.   Others higher up the food chain have to take some responsibility.  Not that they will of course.

Everyone should have taken responsibility, not just when it suits them.

Going forward, that's not changed.

Looks like we have flu and Winter vomiting virus to content with as well this winter. Hardly the time for people to ignore their responsibilities or put themselves or others in danger.

If in any doubt, speak to any health care workers and their fears for the future.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 17, 2021, 09:09:46 AM
What odds would you put on another lockdown come Autumn Dilly ?  As with all things Boris I doubt we even have half the full picture.   The truth will out. As they say
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 17, 2021, 01:57:44 PM
What odds would you put on another lockdown come Autumn Dilly ?  As with all things Boris I doubt we even have half the full picture.   The truth will out. As they say

".........................Meanwhile, former health secretary Jeremy Hunt has warned that a long and drawn out third wave of infections could lead to an autumn lockdown.

Speaking on the Today programme on BBC 4 Mr Hunt said the government must be ready to “change directions” and bring back restrictions if Covid-19 infections reach 100,000 a day or more.

“The warning light on the NHS dashboard is not flashing amber, it’s flashing red,” he said. “Covid hospital patients are doubling every two weeks and, according to the Health Service Journal, that means we are heading for about 10,000 Covid hospital patients by the end of August which is about 20 times higher than last year.”

While he said it was unlikely for restrictions to be needed in August, as schools would be closed and many people would be spending more time outside, come September changes could be required to keep the virus under control.



Full article:

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/covid-uk-news-%e2%80%93-live-travel-chaos-as-france-becomes-amber-plus-amid-warnings-of-lockdown-in-autumn/ar-AAMfKxe?ocid=UP97DHP&li=BBoPWjQ


Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: dillydilly on July 18, 2021, 09:51:54 AM
Mall - I believe there will be a real need for another lockdown, but I think the Govt will somehow come up with a reason not to invoke one, because they think more of their image than winning this battle.  I may be wrong, hope I am, but I suspect they believe some people are expendable.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 18, 2021, 10:02:08 AM
..........I may be wrong, hope I am, but I suspect they believe some people are expendable.
If that's true, and continuing along that theme, surely the same could be said about people who have allowed lockdown and social distancing rules to be ignored?   :dontknow:

It's not just the Government that has responsibility to others.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 18, 2021, 12:14:28 PM
The Government have the main responsibility, since many act on their guidance. Much (tho not all, I grant you) of the flouting stems from the consistent " one rule for you minions, one rule for us superiors" that has been seen so many times during the pandemic and has severely undermined the public resolve........and here we go again...Javid has a positive test, Sunak and Johnson pinged by the App, but they don't self isolate......so why should anyone else behave responsibly and toe the line. It's getting to the point, where for the sake of the country and indeed the globe, Johnson and his entourage need to either step down or be removed.... completely out of their depth and no sense of "the greater good".
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: gs50 on July 18, 2021, 12:41:00 PM
Big Business still pulling the strings.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 18, 2021, 01:27:45 PM
Johnson and his entourage need to either step down or be removed.... completely out of their depth and no sense of "the greater good".

In this country, the alternative to Johnson and his crew is truly terrifying!

Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 18, 2021, 01:41:26 PM
Glad you have come out with it  at last B & G and revealed yourself :laughcry: !

I personally think it's gone way past party politics now.......what is happening at this very moment in this country is truly terrifying.... whatever you think about other parties and the way they might handle finances etc.......if this goes on.much longer the British economy will be down the pan, vast swathes of the population will be ill long term and we'll encourage a new variant to form which can evade current vaccines and then  start to export that all around the world. Before that fully happens, most countries will just close their borders, which will bring the UK to a standstill, people fighting over food, riots etc etc.........this is a very very dangerous game the Buffoon is playing
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Coastal linnet on July 18, 2021, 03:01:19 PM
In the words of Frazer from " Dad's Army"
" we are doomed I say doomed".
It's a good job we have still got football to talk about to keep us all cheerful :scarf:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 18, 2021, 03:06:20 PM

I personally think it's gone way past party politics now.......what is happening at this very moment in this country is truly terrifying.... whatever you think about other parties and the way they might handle finances etc.......if this goes on.much longer the British economy will be down the pan, vast swathes of the population will be ill long term and we'll encourage a new variant to form which can evade current vaccines and then  start to export that all around the world. Before that fully happens, most countries will just close their borders, which will bring the UK to a standstill, people fighting over food, riots etc etc.........this is a very very dangerous game the Buffoon is playing

So, are you trying to tell us that if Labour had won the last election, the country would now be in a far better position as it would be in the hands of Corbyn and Abbott?

😂😂😂
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 18, 2021, 03:13:41 PM
Glad you have come out with it  at last B & G and revealed yourself :laughcry: !

That's just a nasty rumour.........no truth in it whatsoever!

 :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 18, 2021, 03:25:45 PM
Big Business still pulling the strings.

More likely big and small business's.

Too early to ease the restrictions to such a degree as they have done, imho.

Monday could well be known as Freedumb day. It seems like its all down to us and how we behave now.

From what I have seen during lockdown, I don't hold out much hope.

I'll go with the opinion of the Scientists..........I think we'll be either locked down or under some other form of severe restrictions by September.

Winter Vomiting Virus, Flu, Covid19...........all forecast to be with us this coming winter. Looks like we are in for a tough one again.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 18, 2021, 04:01:08 PM
Reading in today’s NLP it seems the likes of Stockport, Chesterfield, Wrexham and Notts Co are going full steam ahead in chasing a return to the EFL.  Seems no worries on their part if the season gets to a stage to run without fans.

Hopefully the League has something in place for this scenario and that big clubs don’t force the smaller fish to complete the season come what may.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 18, 2021, 05:07:57 PM
Reading in today’s NLP it seems the likes of Stockport, Chesterfield, Wrexham and Notts Co are going full steam ahead in chasing a return to the EFL.  Seems no worries on their part if the season gets to a stage to run without fans.

Hopefully the League has something in place for this scenario and that big clubs don’t force the smaller fish to complete the season come what may.

I can't see them having anything in place, other than something that will favour the  bigger, richer clubs.

Can you?
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 18, 2021, 05:23:17 PM
I thought Clubs stated that unless something was in place to protect them, going forward then they wouldn’t start the League ?

Must be cause for concern as Lynn supporters were told they wouldn’t get any monies refunded so if in doubt don’t buy a season ticket
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 18, 2021, 06:13:41 PM

I personally think it's gone way past party politics now.......what is happening at this very moment in this country is truly terrifying.... whatever you think about other parties and the way they might handle finances etc.......if this goes on.much longer the British economy will be down the pan, vast swathes of the population will be ill long term and we'll encourage a new variant to form which can evade current vaccines and then  start to export that all around the world. Before that fully happens, most countries will just close their borders, which will bring the UK to a standstill, people fighting over food, riots etc etc.........this is a very very dangerous game the Buffoon is playing

So, are you trying to tell us that if Labour had won the last election, the country would now be in a far better position as it would be in the hands of Corbyn and Abbott?

😂😂😂


You keep making this political B&G..Tory v Labour.......why do people go into tribal mode as soon as someone states what is patently true...ie Boris is just not up to leading a country... there's not going to be an election, so he has to be removed....I am sure there will be discussions to this effect within his party
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 18, 2021, 06:18:00 PM
I thought Clubs stated that unless something was in place to protect them, going forward then they wouldn’t start the League ?

Must be cause for concern as Lynn supporters were told they wouldn’t get any monies refunded so if in doubt don’t buy a season ticket

I was under the impression that this was emphasised at The NL AGM...ie crowds or funding for the league to start and continue.

Can't see many buying a season ticket unless they are.prepared to donate the monies
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 18, 2021, 06:37:47 PM

You keep making this political B&G..Tory v Labour.......why do people go into tribal mode as soon as someone states what is patently true...ie Boris is just not up to leading a country... there's not going to be an election, so he has to be removed....I am sure there will be discussions to this effect within his party

Political? I think that accusation would be better laid at your door than mine.

If Boris is not up to leading the country, who is? Noted that you didn't answer my question about the alternative. Im not saying I'm a Boris fan, but who would you prefer, irrespective of the party they represent.

What other Country in the world would offer their people the choice between Corbyn and Johnson? 
:laughcry:  :laughcry:  :laughcry:


Leadership contests of parties happen on a regular basis, so I'm sure you will be proven correct on that one sooner or later.

Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 18, 2021, 06:45:27 PM
My money is on Gareth Southgate  :laughcry:

Nigel Farage is more Tory than most Conservative
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 18, 2021, 07:20:17 PM

You keep making this political B&G..Tory v Labour.......why do people go into tribal mode as soon as someone states what is patently true...ie Boris is just not up to leading a country... there's not going to be an election, so he has to be removed....I am sure there will be discussions to this effect within his party

Political? I think that accusation would be better laid at your door than mine.

If Boris is not up to leading the country, who is? Noted that you didn't answer my question about the alternative. Im not saying I'm a Boris fan, but who would you prefer, irrespective of the party they represent.

What other Country in the world would offer their people the choice between Corbyn and Johnson? 
:laughcry:  :laughcry:  :laughcry:


Leadership contests of parties happen on a regular basis, so I'm sure you will be proven correct on that one sooner or later.


 :laughcry: :laughcry:

Go on do yourself a favour B&G and come off the fence fully..........Highest number of Covid cases in Western Europe, highest number of deaths,most time in lockdown, highest number of u turns, completely chaotic and shambolic messaging, no semblance of apology or recognition of mistakesetc etc....are you honestly telling me that you think it's acceptable and that there isn't anyone in UK politics capable of doing a better job ?

Within the Tories, I would have thought that one of the elder statesman should take temporary charge... someone who is respected around the globe, has some gravitas and understands the role well...maybe they could pull someone out of retirement/The Lords........
. it's a desperate situation.....I would like to see a Ken Clarke/John Major type character take the helm for a while. As a figurehead, I would also far rather have Drakeford, Sturgeon or Starmer in control, but would share your concerns over some of the current labour politicians supporting the latter.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 18, 2021, 07:55:01 PM
As a figurehead, I would also far rather have Drakeford, Sturgeon or Starmer in control, but would share your concerns over some of the current labour politicians supporting the latter.

I thought you were being serious with your prior posts.

Now I realise you were just pulling my leg all the time!

 :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 18, 2021, 07:59:22 PM
Johnson signed up for Brexit, as leader. Covid came along and he hadn’t a clue what to do.Then again I can’t see any Tory Minsters or indeed backbenchers pushing themselves forward to grab that hot seat. Normally when a Leader makes a Horlicks of something there people waiting in the wings to jump all over it.

I wonder with Covid why no one wants the job.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 18, 2021, 08:13:33 PM
As a figurehead, I would also far rather have Drakeford, Sturgeon or Starmer in control, but would share your concerns over some of the current labour politicians supporting the latter.

I thought you were being serious with your prior posts.

Now I realise you were just pulling my leg all the time!

 :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:



Oh dear, you prefer Boris as a person/figurehead to any of the other 3.

That to me is very concerning....I still think you must be in tribal mentality( and can't think past the fact that they are not Tory )to think like that, as they all to my way of thinking speak with more authority, consistency,honesty and in a much more measured way than Boris.

Still each to their own B&G :laughcry:..it is after all a supposed democracy
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: dillydilly on July 18, 2021, 08:18:43 PM
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT TIME THE PANDEMIC ENDS, TOMORROW ?…….  OK, that was tongue in cheek !  I am completely at a loss to understand how anyone can defend Johnson on ANY aspect of National policy.  He holds almost the world record for deaths, and is looking like he might still be lining up to get a Personal. Best, yet again.  He agreed, signed, cheered, boasted, hurried through Parliament, and won an election by saying it was “DONE”.  Then he welched on it, and blamed the EU in absolutely insulting fashion, criticising them for carrying it out “ properly”.  How anyone can feel anything less than shame for being represented by him, is completely beyond me.  Rant over…..  shame and anger , not…..
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 18, 2021, 09:01:24 PM
As a figurehead, I would also far rather have Drakeford, Sturgeon or Starmer in control, but would share your concerns over some of the current labour politicians supporting the latter.

I thought you were being serious with your prior posts.

Now I realise you were just pulling my leg all the time!

 :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:



Oh dear, you prefer Boris as a person/figurehead to any of the other 3.

That to me is very concerning....I still think you must be in tribal mentality( and can't think past the fact that they are not Tory )to think like that, as they all to my way of thinking speak with more authority, consistency,honesty and in a much more measured way than Boris.

Still each to their own B&G :laughcry:..it is after all a supposed democracy

So you are being serious. Wow!

You've completely lost me with your reference to tribal mentality......I have no idea what you are on about there. Or is it some sort of insult hoping to draw a reaction?

As you say, its a democracy, which means you have every right to believe, however incredulous it will appear to so many others, that you believe Starmer or Sturgeon (talking about democracy, just how many referendums does she want?) could do any better? 

 :clap:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: KES80 on July 18, 2021, 09:48:50 PM
No insult intended re tribal mentality. B & G....
At the end of the day we are all "friends" on here in my book, even if we do have differing, strong views from time to time. I can honestly say I have no strong sense of support for any of the political parties in the UK presently......so I look more towards an individual's abilities of being straight forward, honest, in control, able to handle pressure and criticism, consistent, able to command respect of fellow national leaders and politicians and the public and having genuine concern for quality of life in the country and the expertise and nous to pull it all off.
However, I do think it's true to say that some people don't readily see an individual politician's failings in full, because they have a long standing belief that the party the individual represents is the best option.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 18, 2021, 09:56:44 PM
KES. Are you one who votes for your local candidate or the party/Party leader ?
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on July 18, 2021, 10:30:49 PM
Johnson and his entourage need to either step down or be removed.... completely out of their depth and no sense of "the greater good".

In this country, the alternative to Johnson and his crew is truly terrifying!

Doesn’t need to be the other side change comes from, there’s growing back bench dissent to Johnson, and they’re the ones who did for May. If this unlocking goes derrière over elbow, you could see Johnson being replaced by his own party with someone dull but fairly competent seeming to try and win back trust over a winter of restrictions, like Raab, Sunak, Clark or Leadsom. A swing back towards the centre in preparation for the next election, now that there isn’t a Brexit party flanking them to the right.

And in reminding myself this is a football forum, has their been attendance figures given out for the two friendlies?
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: dillydilly on July 18, 2021, 11:49:56 PM
I’ve heard the figure of 1,600 for the Norwich game, Loughbro’. I do hope our team can compete well this season, because I genuinely think we could be amongst the very best attended teams.  Big crowds are easily imaginable, as long as we’re competitive.  Then we would really take off, because money talks alright !
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on July 19, 2021, 06:50:28 AM
I’ve heard the figure of 1,600 for the Norwich game, Loughbro’. I do hope our team can compete well this season, because I genuinely think we could be amongst the very best attended teams.  Big crowds are easily imaginable, as long as we’re competitive.  Then we would really take off, because money talks alright !

Surely the club would look to make inroads into the large debts it has now, before putting it all into getting to the Football League?  :countingmoney:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 19, 2021, 10:14:23 AM
No insult intended re tribal mentality. B & G....
At the end of the day we are all "friends" on here in my book, even if we do have differing, strong views from time to time. I can honestly say I have no strong sense of support for any of the political parties in the UK presently......so I look more towards an individual's abilities of being straight forward, honest, in control, able to handle pressure and criticism, consistent, able to command respect of fellow national leaders and politicians and the public and having genuine concern for quality of life in the country and the expertise and nous to pull it all off.
However, I do think it's true to say that some people don't readily see an individual politician's failings in full, because they have a long standing belief that the party the individual represents is the best option.

If I'm reading your previous posts correctly, I think (only think) you may have me down as some kind of staunch Tory supporter.

If so, that's completely wrong, and nothing could be further from the truth.
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 19, 2021, 10:18:12 AM
Doesn’t need to be the other side change comes from, there’s growing back bench dissent to Johnson, and they’re the ones who did for May.

That's football..................err, I mean politics!   :laughcry:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 19, 2021, 10:20:12 AM
I’ve heard the figure of 1,600 for the Norwich game, Loughbro’. I do hope our team can compete well this season, because I genuinely think we could be amongst the very best attended teams.  Big crowds are easily imaginable, as long as we’re competitive.  Then we would really take off, because money talks alright !

Could we have (i.e be allowed) to have that many? I thought I had read somewhere that we were limited to 25% capacity.

If so, wouldn't that have restricted us to nearer the 1200 mark?   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 19, 2021, 12:46:51 PM
I’ve heard the figure of 1,600 for the Norwich game, Loughbro’. I do hope our team can compete well this season, because I genuinely think we could be amongst the very best attended teams.  Big crowds are easily imaginable, as long as we’re competitive.  Then we would really take off, because money talks alright !

Surely the club would look to make inroads into the large debts it has now, before putting it all into getting to the Football League?  :countingmoney:

With how the Club has been financed over previous seasons, taking into account who owns some of the major creditor(s), and with all the money that has been granted/loaned to the Club recently (The Club, not an individual), would that actually be a good idea at the moment?   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 19, 2021, 01:22:47 PM
Hmmmmm Good point
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Mallard on July 20, 2021, 03:31:27 PM
I guess all the staff at the Club who were Furloughed are now back on the payroll?
Title: Re: Covid, what happens when ?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 20, 2021, 04:48:55 PM
I guess all the staff at the Club who were Furloughed are now back on the payroll?

I would think that happened a long time ago.
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