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Title: New Staff
Post by: Blueboy on July 30, 2021, 07:39:20 AM
A couple of weeks ago we were told that a replacement commercial manager would be named shortly and also that a new coach would be appointed.  I would have thought that now is the vital time to get these appointments made, but nothing from the club.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on July 30, 2021, 07:45:03 AM
Hopefully the job of CM is being advertised to get the right candidates applying.  Rather than going for the easy option of giving the position to someone because they handy but maybe not suited with that particular role.

As for the new Coach, maybe the right person just isnít available at the moment and IC would rather get the right man than someone who was Ďhandyí
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 30, 2021, 07:58:07 AM
What is Mark's role at the Club these days?
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blueboy on July 30, 2021, 08:11:36 AM
My issue is that now at pre season is when you need both a commercial manager and a coach in place.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on July 30, 2021, 08:57:01 AM
Canít argue with that BlueBoy.   Hopefully Mark Hearle did a lot of the Commercial side selling prior to him quitting the job.

B&G..... no media coverage seems to be coming from Mark Hearle.  Maybe he has left the club and is gainfully employed elsewhere.?
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: dillydilly on July 30, 2021, 08:59:58 AM
I think Blueboy is right.  But, imho, we have never had a CM at the club who gave me any optimism that they would have an impact.  Quite often weíve heard, over the years, of a new appointment, followed by optimism from fans that the ensuing silence is due to plans being formulated, and soon to be put in place, then an announcement that a new CM has been appointed.  Then a new one, again, ad infinitum !  It is hard to sell the ambition of a club that has never made progress, apart from the last 2 or 3 years, of course.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Nemesis on July 30, 2021, 09:16:44 AM
What is Mark's role at the Club these days?
Lynn News 6th July
"Most notably, Mark Hearle has stepped down as commercial manager and taken up a new role as head of operations. He will also act as the club's new programme editor."
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 30, 2021, 09:40:06 AM
What is Mark's role at the Club these days?
Lynn News 6th July
"Most notably, Mark Hearle has stepped down as commercial manager and taken up a new role as head of operations."

I wonder how that's going and what it involves.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: admin on July 30, 2021, 10:12:10 AM
A lot of responsibility.
I would guess it means tearing his hair out on matchdays - although in Mark's case . . .
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 30, 2021, 10:32:33 AM
A lot of responsibility.
I would guess it means tearing his hair out on matchdays - although in Mark's case . . .

If its that stressful, how long will he put up with it?   :dontknow:
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 30, 2021, 12:01:03 PM
Wow, "head of operations".....things really are moving fast at the club....never expected that....extend the changing rooms yes, but have our own theatre... that's another league.......hope Mark knows his ACL's from his lower hamstrings and has a suitably sharp knife :laughcry: :laughcry:

On a very serious note tho, it seems the club might be hampered by SC feeling not many have got his back....seems reluctant to recruit from outside when it relates to day to day running or finances.
I have the greatest respect for MH, who seems willing to take on these rather challenging roles........ challenging they are tho  at this level and require a level of expertise.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: samsdad on July 30, 2021, 02:31:58 PM
The commercial manager role baffles me.. MH is a very decent guy but certainly not one with very much commercial accumen.

Myself amongst others chased to give the club last year in terms of sponsorship, often sending 2/3 emails with no response.

I hear many werent told why they hadn't recieved their sponsored players shirts yet alongside not even being contacted again to see if they wanted to sponsor programmes etc today as they have in their past.

SC does seem to make large steps forward but we still carry on with such simple mistakes which makes Lynn continually look tin pot.

As for justifying the current ticket prices, as much as we love to see Lynn at a higher standard, full time and with a fantastic manager, the match day experience doesn't exactly improve.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Grissles Oleary on July 30, 2021, 03:19:30 PM
Although the football side may have improved since UCL days it seems the facilities and quality of match day fayre has plummeted. :dontknow:
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on July 30, 2021, 03:51:08 PM
What is Mark's role at the Club these days?
Lynn News 6th July
"Most notably, Mark Hearle has stepped down as commercial manager and taken up a new role as head of operations."

I wonder how that's going and what it involves.
As head of Operations that will come in handy during the season if a player breaks his nose, arm, leg etc. Save having to go to A & E.
I haven't got enough fingers and toes to count the times that we have been told in thge past some big news is coming, players signing, sponsors coming on board, commercial managers, etc etc etc.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on July 30, 2021, 03:54:59 PM
I can think back at the number of times Tony M has posted on here about the Non Playing side not keeping pace with IC and the playing side.

Today as we look from the outside in the gap looks massive.   
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: gs50 on July 30, 2021, 04:19:22 PM
Looks like they are after a sponsor for first game of season.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 30, 2021, 04:28:42 PM
Looks like they are after a sponsor for first game of season.

Does anyone have idea how much they want for it? If people were made aware of the cost, they may consider it.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on July 30, 2021, 04:37:55 PM
Why not treat your employees or invite some important clients and sponsor our first game of the season against
@SUFCRootsHall
 - it will be an electric atmosphere with the return of fans and Southendís first ever game in non-league.  A historic moment and one to relax and enjoy

There we go.  Point in case

Surely the Club can be more professional than this.  A random Tweet to try and grab a match day sponsor for the opening day of the season against a relegated League Club.

Come on SC you are better than this.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 30, 2021, 04:53:41 PM
mmmmm....not sure that an electric atmosphere can go hand in hand with relaxing.

 :dontknow:

Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 30, 2021, 05:00:21 PM
Just not good enough......no real attempt to connect with the core fans all pre season and then a limp attempt to try to entice people to the first match..... should be way, way better than this....it seems to be just assumed that The Walks will be full and provide the atmosphere, that the team requires...WRONG...attendance comes from feeling involved, wanting to support YOUR team and liking the match day package and fayre.........next SC will be complaining about the level of attendance......just plain poor in my book
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on July 30, 2021, 05:13:21 PM
How long before SC comes out with use it or lose it story.  Well not for 12 weeks I guess. 

Letís hope he has gauged the mood of the fans correctly in setting admission at such a high level.  If he gets it wrong has he the funds to support it ?
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: samsdad on July 30, 2021, 05:39:49 PM
Last year it was £500 with a 3 course meal. Signed match ball too.

The three course meal isnít amazing but food all the same. Half time you get free drinks but again last year we had an occasion where we werenít served. I love the club but as itís been touched on the match day experience has stayed many levels below what we play at. Simple things like locations to get food/drink havenít exactly excelled, pre season friendlys the food was one side of the ground and that was it.

I feel half the time these are the small fixes that are overlooked.

Our hall of fame has three players.. why not engage the fans to vote on new members? I understand asking more money to push the club forward but the fans also need something out of this
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 30, 2021, 06:23:10 PM
Just not good enough......no real attempt to connect with the core fans all pre season and then a limp attempt to try to entice people to the first match..... should be way, way better than this....it seems to be just assumed that The Walks will be full and provide the atmosphere, that the team requires...WRONG...attendance comes from feeling involved, wanting to support YOUR team and liking the match day package and fayre.........next SC will be complaining about the level of attendance......just plain poor in my book

All of this would presumably come under the remit of the Commercial Manager. This is such an important job at this level. Its not one for volunteers. It requires a full time salaried position. It needs to be an all year job, not be closed for business when the season ends.

If anyone feels that the Club can't afford this, that would surely mean that we are punching above our weight and that we are at least one step too high.

Investment needs to be on going off the pitch as well as on it, to ensure long term viability.

Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 30, 2021, 06:28:54 PM
Agreed, Samsdad.....it has to be a two way street.

The meals provided should be a good standard........but for those who can't afford that there should be a quality burger stall and a good quality jacket potato stall in the ground, with a selection of soft drinks, teas and coffees, all at reasonable prices.

There should be greater emphasis on club merchandise too....have some offers on scarves, hats etc
Give a free club mug to the first 50 through the gate and I am sick of going on about masks bearing the club logo.

It just seems like there isn't anybody at the club, thinking of positive initiatives, to get fans onside....it really isn't rocket science...........with the lack of a commercial side worthy of the name, it puts greater emphasis on getting good attendances.......   I think there needs to be a wake up call....I believe this coming season is make or break for the club, I really do.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 30, 2021, 06:30:19 PM

Our hall of fame has three players.. why not engage the fans to vote on new members?

What? Let the supporters have a voice?

Wherever would that end.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 30, 2021, 06:31:02 PM
Just not good enough......no real attempt to connect with the core fans all pre season and then a limp attempt to try to entice people to the first match..... should be way, way better than this....it seems to be just assumed that The Walks will be full and provide the atmosphere, that the team requires...WRONG...attendance comes from feeling involved, wanting to support YOUR team and liking the match day package and fayre.........next SC will be complaining about the level of attendance......just plain poor in my book

All of this would presumably come under the remit of the Commercial Manager. This is such an important job at this level. Its not one for volunteers. It requires a full time salaried position. It needs to be an all year job, not be closed for business when the season ends.

If anyone feels that the Club can't afford this, that would surely mean that we are punching above our weight and that we are at least one step too high.

Investment needs to be on going off the pitch as well as on it, to ensure long term viability.


Quite agree
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: kenny r on July 30, 2021, 06:52:57 PM
Pre-2009 there was a very popular Vice President's Club ( probably 50 VPs at that time) where the matchday sponsors mixed with the VPs. Tea / coffee and biscuits at half time and basic hot food after the game and a very lively atmosphere.
There was also a pre-match carvery for supporters which was always a sell-out. I don't think it produced a huge financial return as it was priced to sell BUT it gave supporters a feeling of involvement and opened up other income streams.

I can't see any of the above happening again, sadly.

Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 30, 2021, 07:13:22 PM
Pre-2009 there was a very popular Vice President's Club ( probably 50 VPs at that time) where the matchday sponsors mixed with the VPs. Tea / coffee and biscuits at half time and basic hot food after the game and a very lively atmosphere.
There was also a pre-match carvery for supporters which was always a sell-out. I don't think it produced a huge financial return as it was priced to sell BUT it gave supporters a feeling of involvement and opened up other income streams.

I can't see any of the above happening again, sadly.

An experienced Commercial Manager, not interfered with and left to their own devices, would be onto all these kind of things. It would be like second nature to them.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on July 30, 2021, 07:35:09 PM
Agreed, Samsdad.....it has to be a two way street.

The meals provided should be a good standard........but for those who can't afford that there should be a quality burger stall and a good quality jacket potato stall in the ground, with a selection of soft drinks, teas and coffees, all at reasonable prices.

There should be greater emphasis on club merchandise too....have some offers on scarves, hats etc
Give a free club mug to the first 50 through the gate and I am sick of going on about masks bearing the club logo.

It just seems like there isn't anybody at the club, thinking of positive initiatives, to get fans onside....it really isn't rocket science...........with the lack of a commercial side worthy of the name, it puts greater emphasis on getting good attendances.......   I think there needs to be a wake up call....I believe this coming season is make or break for the club, I really do.

Apparently it's £1k per game to have your burger wagon in the ground. That would price most people out.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on July 30, 2021, 07:54:58 PM
Pre-2009 there was a very popular Vice President's Club ( probably 50 VPs at that time) where the matchday sponsors mixed with the VPs. Tea / coffee and biscuits at half time and basic hot food after the game and a very lively atmosphere.
There was also a pre-match carvery for supporters which was always a sell-out. I don't think it produced a huge financial return as it was priced to sell BUT it gave supporters a feeling of involvement and opened up other income streams.

I can't see any of the above happening again, sadly.
Somewhere about 2004/5 the meals that Les used to produce upstairs were amazing. Going through divorce at the time these meals were very welcoming along with bringing friends and family. At that time good commercial manager, amazing clubshop (according to Peterborough, Cambridge Utd and Wimbledon, real supporters club with away travel to all games and the social events including the 3 day events in the marquee at the end of the season. EVERY game was sponsored prior to the season starting. When i sponsored games or matchballs in those days it was not DEMANDED in cash as was my last experiences with this regime. Yes that club went tits up but the supporters experience under this regime is crap.
Try hiring the Blue and Gold. You will need a mortgage. Use your own DJ and you have to pay extra to plug into the electric supply. Something is seriously wrong.
People need to smell the coffee.

The FA should NEVER allow one person to own a club without a board as back up. But then who would be daft enough to want to be on that board.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Stamford Linnet on July 30, 2021, 08:39:41 PM
Myself amongst others chased to give the club last year in terms of sponsorship, often sending 2/3 emails with no response.

I hear many werent told why they hadn't recieved their sponsored players shirts yet alongside not even being contacted again to see if they wanted to sponsor programmes etc today as they have in their past.

Indeed - as above Iíve not been contacted about player sponsorship considering Iíve sponsored a player for the last 2 years. Also a bit disappointed not to receive my player sponsored shirt at the end of the season!! Hereís hoping for a decent season on the pitchÖ.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 30, 2021, 08:48:00 PM
I have to say, that I can't really believe, half of what I am reading......£1000 to have your burger van in The Walks......if that's true it's simply ludicrous IMO.
There has been a whole season gone by, where somebody with some basic commercial nous could have planned this all out and weighed things up, to give the fans (the club's greatest  financial asset), the best possible experience on a match day, to ensure they attend in huge numbers and willingly part with their hard earned.......
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Grissles Oleary on July 30, 2021, 08:51:17 PM
It would seem to me that the ethos of the club is to extract maximum cash from the fans with the minimum of effort and return for the fans? :dontknow: :bankrupt:
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 30, 2021, 09:01:03 PM
Well should that be the case Griss, they could well be found out this coming season. Desperate for the support pitchside and desperate for the income, they will find people need enticing back into football grounds after the last 15 months of Covid. Some will be scared to come, some will have now found alternative things to do on a Saturday afternoon and many have been hit financially and will find it hard to justify the Stamford Bridge prices, as Mall puts it.

If the overall package inside the ground isn't right, attendances will struggle I feel
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: samsdad on July 31, 2021, 06:27:58 AM
Myself amongst others chased to give the club last year in terms of sponsorship, often sending 2/3 emails with no response.

I hear many werent told why they hadn't recieved their sponsored players shirts yet alongside not even being contacted again to see if they wanted to sponsor programmes etc today as they have in their past.

Indeed - as above Iíve not been contacted about player sponsorship considering Iíve sponsored a player for the last 2 years. Also a bit disappointed not to receive my player sponsored shirt at the end of the season!! Hereís hoping for a decent season on the pitchÖ.

Still yet to hear when I am likely to receive my shirt... I had to chase 5 times to find out I wasn't getting it when I expected also.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: samsdad on July 31, 2021, 06:30:05 AM
It would seem to me that the ethos of the club is to extract maximum cash from the fans with the minimum of effort and return for the fans? :dontknow: :bankrupt:

This is how it feels more often than not.

I wholeheartedly appreciate what SC has done for the on-field side of the club, IC is doing an incredible job and we have seen some fantastic players BUT other elements do sour the experience.. Being a Lynn fan has taught me to appreciate the ride as I am sure there are some bumps in the road to come but often the shortcomings around matchday experience can't help but leave a negative taste.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blueboy on July 31, 2021, 08:20:17 AM
I think a lot of issues come down to trust. Does SC really trust the people he appoints to do jobs, or is he all the time looking over their shoulder watching and waiting for a mistake to happen. I think this was possibly the issue when IC left a couple of years ago. If you appoint people let them get on with the job.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on July 31, 2021, 09:57:25 AM
As a one man band I do wonder how much advise SC takes from the people around him?.
 
Mind they all seem to have remained quite loyal to him. So he canít be all bad.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: rod on July 31, 2021, 10:17:42 AM
So many obvious missed opportunities to maximise income and make supporters feel involved with the club and its on and off field activities.

A community club?!
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 31, 2021, 10:21:03 AM
I think a lot of issues come down to trust. Does SC really trust the people he appoints to do jobs, or is he all the time looking over their shoulder watching and waiting for a mistake to happen. I think this was possibly the issue when IC left a couple of years ago. If you appoint people let them get on with the job.

Or could it be the people appointed feel that they have to be continually looking over THEIR shoulders?   :dontknow:
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on July 31, 2021, 10:27:45 AM
Good to see you back posting Rod.  Missed ya.

Just had a phone call from a long term Sponsor at the Club.   The suspicion that many had are true re-Mark Hearle.  He has indeed left the club.   

Now will the Club go down the route of employing the staff who are the best qualified person (S) for the job and not just grab at someone who is handy and will work for peanuts  but are so obviously not the right person for the job.

This is Step 5 of the best Football Structure in the world and as such demands a 100% professional approach.   We have gone full time in terms of playing side yet we still seem to be very hesitant about employing full time staff behind the scenes.

Prepare to be underwhelmed, well at least partly.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 31, 2021, 10:37:41 AM
Well something's clearly not right in the set up at the moment...just look at the comments on here....all reasoned, all applauding the on field achievements and grateful for that, but at the same time , many peoples' feel good factor really soured by the match day experience. It really does smack of fear somewhere in the system. Fear of letting someone loose or fear of acting on one's own initiative......who knows which side it's on. There is a famous saying in Chinese Medicine, that "fear knots the Ki".......ie it interfers with the natural flow of energy and stops things happening that otherwise might.

Seems to me like the Ki is blocked massively somewhere !!!


I hope someone at the club is reading this thread, takes it in a positive way and urgently acts upon it....could make a big difference for everyone this season
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on July 31, 2021, 10:44:00 AM
It seems all can see the issues at the Club but the only person who has it within their power to do something about it doesnít seem bothered.

Please SC start getting some round pegs in some round holes.  You have far better qualified people at your finger tips to carry out these jobs rather than just hand them out to people who just happen to be floating around the club making all the right noises.

Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: admin on July 31, 2021, 12:04:21 PM
MarkHearle69
@kltfcmedia
With handovers of some roles now complete,  I can confirm I will be leaving my roles at @officialKLtown after Tuesday evenings game, having served my notice to leave a few weeks ago.
I wish the Chairman,  Ian and  his staff, the players and all off field staff all the best . or the future. I'd also like to thank everyone over the past few years who have ensured I have enjoyed some great times. I will be along when I can and will edit the match programme as promised. Thank you all very much. Mark #UTL #WeAreLynn
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: macfleetwood1 on July 31, 2021, 12:12:43 PM
I did consider buying a season ticket, but not at that price. Mark had the club at heart, and I wouldn't be surprised that he could see a backlash coming over the prices, and advised a reduction, which was ignored. Which is why he has left the club? Its not a fact, its just my opinion. I also think we should have stayed part time, we would have learnt a lot from last season, it would have been cheaper, and we would have held our own. But time will tell, and that debate is for another day. Hope I'm wrong but I fear the worst. 
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: gs50 on July 31, 2021, 12:27:02 PM
I think we should have done what Dover did and stopped playing.At least we wouldn't be tied to the government for 20 years.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 31, 2021, 01:10:29 PM
I think we should have done what Dover did and stopped playing.At least we wouldn't be tied to the government for 20 years.

I think there's many that would agree with you on that one. It could well have been better for the Club, but not necessarily for the Chairman.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 31, 2021, 01:18:02 PM
Mark had the club at heart, and I wouldn't be surprised that he could see a backlash coming over the prices, and advised a reduction, which was ignored. Which is why he has left the club? Its not a fact, its just my opinion.

Sometimes people have to stand up and be counted. If you are correct on that one, then well done Mark.

It's not "having the Club at heart" when you just nod in the right direction or agree to things that you know are wrong, just because you want to protect (or gain) a position at the Club.

So, well done Mark and good luck in your new job.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 31, 2021, 01:28:54 PM

Just had a phone call from a long term Sponsor at the Club.   The suspicion that many had are true re-Mark Hearle.  He has indeed left the club.   

Now will the Club go down the route of employing the staff who are the best qualified person (S) for the job and not just grab at someone who is handy and will work for peanuts  but are so obviously not the right person for the job.

This is Step 5 of the best Football Structure in the world and as such demands a 100% professional approach.   We have gone full time in terms of playing side yet we still seem to be very hesitant about employing full time staff behind the scenes.

Prepare to be underwhelmed, well at least partly.

Its a good opportunity to change things for the better. It seems that Mark leaving is not a spur of the moment thing, so there's been enough time to get  an experienced  person on board. I don't suppose we will have to wait for long to see who's going to be doing what, but I fear that it will just be shuffling the existing pack again and more of whats been going on for the past few years.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 31, 2021, 01:49:00 PM
IMO SC needs to balance out the priorities....seems utterly senseless to have a number of analysts on board measuring performance, assessing opposition etc, but no commercial manager and no one looking after the match day experience... that's a recipe for limited income and ultimately disaster
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: gs50 on July 31, 2021, 02:20:17 PM
Seems to me at moment relying totally on match day income which is why prices are so high. Need to sort out Commercial side quick.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on July 31, 2021, 03:05:00 PM
Seems to me at moment relying totally on match day income which is why prices are so high. Need to sort out Commercial side quick.

IMO SC needs to balance out the priorities....seems utterly senseless to have a number of analysts on board measuring performance, assessing opposition etc, but no commercial manager and no one looking after the match day experience... that's a recipe for limited income and ultimately disaster

 :clap: :clap: :clap:

It's similar to Mark's other role, on the Media side of things. Sadly we seem to be light years behind some of out NL friends (and even North and South). A well worked media side would assist the Commercial side of things. A higher profile would make the club packages easier to sell.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Oberon on July 31, 2021, 03:21:12 PM
I sponsored THREE players and still havenít received my shirts! Iíve been told they are in the box office but wonít be signed as the players have now left! This is an appalling way to treat a sponsor. Surely it would have been a good idea to post me the shirts, along with a letter thanking me for my support and giving me details of this seasonís sponsorship opportunities (not that I will be putting another penny into a club that treats its sponsors so badly).
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: dillydilly on July 31, 2021, 03:39:14 PM
Firstly, I think SC has been superb for this club.  His outlay must have been huge, and his ambition and determination to progress has been second to none, in the history of the club, imho.  But one thing hasnít changed, and I think gs50 hit the nail on the head.  We have always thought small, and internally.  Iíve said on many occasions over the years that we only ďsellĒ to the people in the ground.  I donít believe food and drink bring in much income, so isnít the hub of the problem.  Commercial Manager, yes, though at present we canít expect to attract a really good one, and then either devise a competition that can sell outside the club, or join forces with other ( non-football included) initiatives trying to attract ďpaying puntersĒ as well.  And again, my party-piece, more cover and terraces, plus, advertising of the club, and games, to attract the thousands of fans of the game in this area, who are not attracted by the facilities at the moment.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 31, 2021, 04:03:29 PM
...and whist food and drink may not be a big earner, for many they are an important part of the match day experience.....and given what people are paying to enter the ground, they are entitled in my view, to have that provided....goes along with comfort and safety in the ground, family atmosphere, no foul language, no racist chants, reliable and reasonable stewarding........all areas that at one time or other have been weak and should have been sorted by now.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on July 31, 2021, 04:13:20 PM
Fail to prepare, prepare to fail and all that.

How many so called commercial Managers have we had ? A good few I would say in SCís time with the Club.   To keep doing the same thing and expecting a different result is crazy.

Put a package together to attract the right person and the applicants will be there.  Pl55 about with the same MO and it wonít work.  History tells us that.

As for the media side. Again put a package together to attract a Greg Plummer a Chris Lakey, the guy who does the YLP now.  Have we done that ?  I understand that J Heaphy has been handed the role.   Again why are we not getting people who know the job to do the job. Nothing against Heaphy but this looks another back scratching from within the Club.  Was the job advertised or was it just handed out to someone who is there hanging around the place ?
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: dillydilly on July 31, 2021, 04:21:10 PM
All good to have in place, KES, but not money spinners.  And, to be honest, I donít think they should be priorities, apart from trained stewards, because most people who attend games at the moment live fairly close by - why not have a bite or a cuppa before they come ?  Beer wonít sell much, if people have to drive home.  I see you made a point or two on the ďthreadĒ today, so presume you watched the game.  Any impressions of the team or players ?
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: rod on July 31, 2021, 04:38:29 PM
Top of the league for season ticket prices. Treating loyal supporters increasingly just as paying customers. Either the owner is incredibly naive or he has access to seemingly unlimited funding?
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Angle of the North on July 31, 2021, 05:24:39 PM
www.jobsinfootball.com.         Try keyword. Kings Lynn
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on July 31, 2021, 05:33:57 PM
Now isnít that more like it.   Hopefully the position is already filled and the club can maximise its potential.

Then we need a press officer.  One that has the experience.  Need to cover single points of failure to make chances seamless.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on July 31, 2021, 05:50:28 PM
Just been to Banbury v FC United  Both supporters owned clubs. £10 admission.  Local Brewery supplied  beer trailer.  Entertainment after game. Over to you Grissles. :cheers:
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blueboy on July 31, 2021, 05:57:14 PM
I never believed when I started this post that there would be so many responses most appropriate and relevant.  I was just wondering if now would be an appropriate time for all parties, and by that I mean SC, Trust and FOTL to sit down and try and find some common ground. I am sure that there are some people on here who like me are not connected with any group and therefore impartial, who would be willing to help broker the talks.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on July 31, 2021, 06:40:27 PM
Good post Blueboy. How would you start to broker talks when potential club  liabilities, are circa £1m plus.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 31, 2021, 06:50:25 PM
All good to have in place, KES, but not money spinners.  And, to be honest, I donít think they should be priorities, apart from trained stewards, because most people who attend games at the moment live fairly close by - why not have a bite or a cuppa before they come ?  Beer wonít sell much, if people have to drive home.  I see you made a point or two on the ďthreadĒ today, so presume you watched the game.  Any impressions of the team or players ?


Say re Southend at home Dilly.......if Covid doesn't scare people off, I reckon if you include the Southend fans, there will be as many at the ground who have travelled 30 miles plus to get there as there will be those that live round the corner.......so I don't think you argument stacks up....by saying it's not a money spinner, you are just taking the same attitude as those in charge of the club.......and there are plenty on here who are not happy and live locally....many locals want a long afternoon of football....drink before, snack at half time, drink after....... surely it's not too much to ask.


Re my points on the thread.... they were directed at the media dept.....for an NL club to manage one tweet after 20 mins to say the score was 2-0(when Stratford had already mentioned both goals...so old info), one tweet at half time and one at the end of the game, I guess was efficient 😁, but to me, very disappointing.....if I wasn't a Lynn fan, I'd be tempted to use the term tin pot.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 31, 2021, 06:56:10 PM
www.jobsinfootball.com.         Try keyword. Kings Lynn



Very, very pleased to see that.........remit covers much of what people have been touching on here...... including fan engagement.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Jamie on July 31, 2021, 07:02:13 PM
All good to have in place, KES, but not money spinners.  And, to be honest, I donít think they should be priorities, apart from trained stewards, because most people who attend games at the moment live fairly close by - why not have a bite or a cuppa before they come ?  Beer wonít sell much, if people have to drive home.  I see you made a point or two on the ďthreadĒ today, so presume you watched the game.  Any impressions of the team or players ?

Re my points on the thread.... they were directed at the media dept.....for an NL club to manage one tweet after 20 mins to say the score was 2-0(when Stratford had already mentioned both goals...so old info), one tweet at half time and one at the end of the game, I guess was efficient 😁, but to me, very disappointing.....if I wasn't a Lynn fan, I'd be tempted to use the term tin pot.

I wouldnít usually respond, and shouldnít have to justify myself but my Dad has been in hospital and only recently discharged hence why I didnít go to Stratford. Iím sorry family takes precedence over a pre-season friendly. Iíll make sure it doesnít happen again, if he ends up in hospital I wonít bother seeing him.

Be nice if people thought thereís a reason why things donít happenÖ.guess that too much to ask.

My one & only comment on the subject. Hereís to a good season.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: KES80 on July 31, 2021, 07:20:06 PM
Thanks Jamie for your reply and I am sorry to hear about your Dad and I wish him well.
There was an apology at outset on the club's twitter feed that due to illness and work there would be limited updates........but my comments are not really directed towards you, but the club....surely a plan B has to be in place for a full time NL club.... that's the point I made at the time and I still think it's a fair one.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blueboy on July 31, 2021, 07:22:27 PM
Marcus, good point, but I meant in helping to broker talks, not any deal.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on July 31, 2021, 07:32:37 PM
Hard to see any deal, with anyone, with liabilities like that involved. Fire fighting for survival  more like.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on July 31, 2021, 07:50:51 PM
I sponsored THREE players and still havenít received my shirts! Iíve been told they are in the box office but wonít be signed as the players have now left! This is an appalling way to treat a sponsor. Surely it would have been a good idea to post me the shirts, along with a letter thanking me for my support and giving me details of this seasonís sponsorship opportunities (not that I will be putting another penny into a club that treats its sponsors so badly).
Oberon and Sams Dad. I doubt that you will ever see the shirts promised as the kitman came to see me weeks ago to change the names on the backs of the shirts of the players that have left. Obviously i refused, for one the existing names will bleed and ruin the shirts attempting to take the names off and 2 being treat like a piece of s**t in the past including SC broadcasting to the world on his podcast at the end of 2020 that Gordon Chilvers is not busy at Double G Clothing and will be closing down at the end of the year. (2020). Well SC we are busier than ever especially with the supply of football kits, especially Joma that is good enough for Norwich City in the Premier but common as muck for KLTFC to wear.
So sorry Oberon and SamsDads unless there is a serious change you will not get your promised shirts.
Yes you are right Oberon it is no way to treat a sponsor but don't i know it 1st hand.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Angle of the North on July 31, 2021, 08:20:17 PM
Is there anyone who has received a sponsored player's shirt over the years?   I am still waiting for Lee Stevenson's shirt from his first spell at Lynn.   2004, if memory serves.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Bluboy on July 31, 2021, 10:48:21 PM
I sponsored THREE players and still havenít received my shirts! Iíve been told they are in the box office but wonít be signed as the players have now left! This is an appalling way to treat a sponsor. Surely it would have been a good idea to post me the shirts, along with a letter thanking me for my support and giving me details of this seasonís sponsorship opportunities (not that I will be putting another penny into a club that treats its sponsors so badly).
Oberon and Sams Dad. I doubt that you will ever see the shirts promised as the kitman came to see me weeks ago to change the names on the backs of the shirts of the players that have left. Obviously i refused, for one the existing names will bleed and ruin the shirts attempting to take the names off and 2 being treat like a piece of s**t in the past including SC broadcasting to the world on his podcast at the end of 2020 that Gordon Chilvers is not busy at Double G Clothing and will be closing down at the end of the year. (2020). Well SC we are busier than ever especially with the supply of football kits, especially Joma that is good enough for Norwich City in the Premier but common as muck for KLTFC to wear.
So sorry Oberon and SamsDads unless there is a serious change you will not get your promised shirts.
Yes you are right Oberon it is no way to treat a sponsor but don't i know it 1st hand.

Oh dear Ö I also sponsored a player last season and tbh felt a little flat with the whole participation of going so Ö I shall not be going down that route again (a) still no shirt (b) didnít do as I asked in the programme regarding name (c) I was expecting to be contacted to see if I would this season Ö nothing (d) I know with cov 19 but I personally think a message of thanks from the player or staff would go along way again nothing Ö Iíll support the club by buying a season ticket but my other fund  for football will now go to my away travel .

Very really do I knock kltfc as I really do enjoy be there , but this year I feel thereís something lacking , Jamie does really well in his roll etc in keeping us updated but I feel heís restricted from no news from the powers above  this year I really do think SC need to start interacting more Ö evening with Sc , IC  or even some players doing a QnA night , also howís the new snack bar going to work when away fans are there ? Personally £7 for saison chips n drink expensive think Boston when I went there had more variety and reason £ Ö.. ok if you read thanks and hopefully see you all at the walks
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 01, 2021, 01:08:26 AM
There was an apology at outset on the club's twitter feed that due to illness and work there would be limited updates........but my comments are not really directed towards you, but the club....surely a plan B has to be in place for a full time NL club.... that's the point I made at the time and I still think it's a fair one.

With you on this one Kes. No plan B. Never seems to be one. If someone is not available someone should step in. That should be the case for any position at the Club. We are a NL full time club. Need to act like one from top to bottom, all the time.

Can you see it happening elsewhere:

LN's.

Sorry, Greg Plummer is not available so no Sports news this week.

EDP.

Sorry Chris Lakey is not available so no Sports news this week.

IC

Sorry, we have three players carrying injury and I didn't arrange any subs, so we'll be starting  with 8 players at today's game.

Sorry, the Kitman wasn't available to wash the kit, so we'll be the ones in skins today.


Proof that the top prices in this League don't result in top service for the supporters who after all, are who the updates are (presumably) supplied for.

There's always going to be things that crop up in life to spoil the plan (ask WLM). That shouldn't mean, and must not mean, it doesn't then get done.

Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: samsdad on August 01, 2021, 02:10:45 AM
I really hope the sponsored shirts do arrive, will be the final nail if not.

Relieved but also sad that others have suffered the same, it took me 5-6 emails and chasers to get my original reply of I wonít recieve it til friendlys are complete.

May be worth a few of us chasing too see what reply we get.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on August 01, 2021, 07:16:23 AM
Sorry to hear of the illness of the reporters Father.  Hoping he makes a full recovery.

However itís back to the single point failure.  Surely at this level there are contingency plans in place at the Club so that if person A is unavailable then person B covers etc.  Just common sense and called being organised. 

It just backs up what I was saying in an earlier post about having the right people in the right positions not just giving jobs to people because they just happen to be floating around the club but have no experience or background to take on such jobs.

Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on August 01, 2021, 08:50:53 PM
In the mid 2000s and before twitter feeds etc, Radio Norfolk could not make all away games so they organised through the Supporters Club that either Stephen Hooks or myself would be their contacts for away goals, half time and full time reports.
With modern technology in the 2020s it is a disgrace that again the fans cannot be kept up to date on matchday.
Going back to no cover available when this type of thing happens, (hope your dad is on the mend Jamie), what happens in the future if SC is hospitalised for instance. Who else knows EXACTLY what goes on behind the scenes?
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on August 01, 2021, 09:17:38 PM
Maybe itís better that no one does Gordon.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: kenny r on August 01, 2021, 09:48:00 PM
Some of us know exactly what happens from an operational point of view on matchday as we did it for many years and I doubt that much can have changed over the intervening years.

Just get everything in place and create the right atmosphere to part people  enjoyably and painlessly from their money!

Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on August 01, 2021, 09:53:55 PM
Some of us know exactly what happens from an operational point of view on matchday as we did it for many years and I doubt that much can have changed over the intervening years.

Just get everything in place and create the right atmosphere to part people  enjoyably and painlessly from their money!
Only the regime Kenny R. Thats the only change.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Ap on August 01, 2021, 10:03:29 PM
In the mid 2000s and before twitter feeds etc, Radio Norfolk could not make all away games so they organised through the Supporters Club that either Stephen Hooks or myself would be their contacts for away goals, half time and full time reports.
With modern technology in the 2020s it is a disgrace that again the fans cannot be kept up to date on matchday.
Going back to no cover available when this type of thing happens, (hope your dad is on the mend Jamie), what happens in the future if SC is hospitalised for instance. Who else knows EXACTLY what goes on behind the scenes?

You might be on to something with the retro theme there Gordon. Perhaps SC plans to start selling Pink Uns from the Walks at 6PM on a Saturday so those who couldn't travel to away games can find out how we got on!
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 01, 2021, 10:53:48 PM
In the mid 2000s and before twitter feeds etc, Radio Norfolk could not make all away games so they organised through the Supporters Club that either Stephen Hooks or myself would be their contacts for away goals, half time and full time reports.
With modern technology in the 2020s it is a disgrace that again the fans cannot be kept up to date on matchday.
Going back to no cover available when this type of thing happens, (hope your dad is on the mend Jamie), what happens in the future if SC is hospitalised for instance. Who else knows EXACTLY what goes on behind the scenes?

You might be on to something with the retro theme there Gordon. Perhaps SC plans to start selling Pink Uns from the Walks at 6PM on a Saturday so those who couldn't travel to away games can find out how we got on!

£25 quid a copy.
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on August 01, 2021, 11:21:08 PM
With a £1 additional donation thats not an opinion ?  So really isnít a donation
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on August 02, 2021, 05:30:50 PM
New one in.   Stadium Manager.   

https://www.kltown.co.uk/2021/08/02/


Will he be doing all the cooking as well, using that ĎHobí :laughcry:



CLUB CONFIRM NEW STADIUM MANAGER
Jamie Heaphey
August 2, 2021
4:46 pm
The football club are pleased to announce the appointment of Stuart Murphy as Stadium Manager.

Stuartís role will see him oversee the day-to-day running of the stadium, including the cleanliness and general appearance, as well as opening the stadium for the many hires that are booked during the week.

Speaking on the appointment Stuart said ďI am really looking forward to getting started in the role ahead of the new season in a couple of weeks time. I am a lifelong football supporter and to have the chance to to be working at The Walks for the club as they prepare for another season of National League football is very exciting.

I would also like to place on record my thanks to Mark Hearle who has helped me get the bearings of the hob and made sure the handover of the role has been as smooth as possibleĒ

Stuart will be overseeing his first match day at the ground tomorrow evening when Peterborough United visit The Walks in the Linnets final home friendly of the summer (7.30pm kick off)
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 02, 2021, 05:35:55 PM
New one in.   Stadium Manager.   

https://www.kltown.co.uk/2021/08/02/


Will he be doing all the cooking as well, using that ĎHobí :laughcry:

Hand over of the job (hob)?

I never knew Mark Hearle had the title of Stadium Manager as well as all the other ones he seemed to hold.

Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 02, 2021, 05:41:34 PM



Will he be doing all the cooking as well, using that ĎHobí :laughcry:



From what I have heard, that particular skill may come in very useful! 

Freudian slip?   :dontknow:
Title: Re: New Staff
Post by: Mallard on August 02, 2021, 06:00:33 PM
Good Luke Stuart in your knew roll
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