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Title: Southend Tickets.
Post by: macfleetwood1 on August 06, 2021, 10:37:31 AM
I see they have been allocated 988 tickets. Also seating included. Does anyone know what our ground capacity is fixed at? There are so many different figures. Its also important that the Stewards are clued up, at the posh game I went to sit in my normal seat at the hospital end, and told 1 was on the wrong side.  After 3 other fans behind me managed to convince the Steward, its no relation to the position of the QE ,at the Tennyson End.
We will be on trial for this match, its important we are on the game in more ways than one.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: westlynnmike on August 06, 2021, 10:47:41 AM
Much confussion about seats in the Stands, mainly caused by the "Block" lettering at the top. They bear no relation to the "Section" lettering printed on the Tickets.

I have emailed KLTFC and Mark Hearle replied that this was one of the tasks on the list to be addressed before the 2021-22 Season starts.

So "Watch this Space".

 :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 06, 2021, 11:23:06 AM
Why do something today, when it can wait until tomorrow?   :laughcry:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: 1906 on August 06, 2021, 12:08:40 PM
Southend fan here. There seems to be some confusion at our end about segregation. Some reports seem to be saying the terrace is segregated, while some are saying the seats are but the terrace isn't, etc.

We've sold about 800 terrace tickets and no doubt a couple of hundred seats so far, and that was reported last night by KL so that's after just one day of sales (although clearly most people would have eager to snap them up quick as there's a worry there wont be enough).

If there isn't segregation it does concern me a bit. It only takes a couple of idiots, and unfortunately we do have our fair share and spirits will be very high having not been to football for so long.

A bit of clarity from those ITK would be much appreciated!
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 06, 2021, 01:26:23 PM
The terracing is segregated on the opposite side of the ground from the Stand. You have half of your segregated area under cover towards the corner flag and the rest in the open behind the goal line in the same corner, if that makes sense. There is a toilet block and segregated access to the food outlet. Access to your area is through a separate gate.

As far as I am aware there is no segregation in the Stand ( but don't trip over a Zimmer or walking stick!)

We are looking forward to your visit as I am sure you are.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: gs50 on August 06, 2021, 01:43:31 PM
Don't understand problem with seats I purchased two tickets and states section block, row and seat number.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: 1906 on August 06, 2021, 04:53:58 PM
The terracing is segregated on the opposite side of the ground from the Stand. You have half of your segregated area under cover towards the corner flag and the rest in the open behind the goal line in the same corner, if that makes sense. There is a toilet block and segregated access to the food outlet. Access to your area is through a separate gate.

As far as I am aware there is no segregation in the Stand ( but don't trip over a Zimmer or walking stick!)

We are looking forward to your visit as I am sure you are.

Thanks Kenny, we certainly are looking forward to it. While the level is not where we wanted to find ourselves (our last away game fans could attend was at Rotherham), it has certainly been a long time without football for everyone.

As you may be aware we have been far and away the worst team in English professional football for about two and a half years now, and while there are a few people with their head in the sand thinking we're going to challenge for promotion, most of us are very realistic about our chances this season and for me, winning more than we lose and a few good away wins and maybe a little cup run would be fantastic after the miserable few years SUFC fans have had.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 06, 2021, 05:24:46 PM
1906 whatís it down to in as much why the club finds itself in the Non League structure ?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: 1906 on August 06, 2021, 09:00:53 PM
It's a good question and I could be here all night.

The short answer is the club is run by a property developer, who took over 23 years ago with an eye on the very valuable land Roots Hall is sited on. He proposed a new stadium, about 3/4 of a mile to the north east. So far, so good. Roots Hall is a fantastic traditional ground, but it is falling apart.

Unfortunately, this proved to be a little trickier than he first imagined, for reasons I won't bore you with, and we are now more than 2 decades later with no new stadium, and the chairman having spent the best part of £20million covering the club's losses.

In 2016/17 under Phil Brown we spent fairly big, certainly at a foolish level for us, to push for The Championship, but missed out on the playoffs by a point. This relatively successful season was achieved with big name (Simon Cox, Anton Ferdinand, Nile Ranger,Marc Antonie Fortune to name a few) but ageing players with no resale value. We also dropped a few heavy contracts on players on the wrong side of 30, some of whom have actually only just left.

We failed to go up, and we then spent the next couple of years trying desperately and unsuccessfully to cut our cloth. Chris Powell suffered greatly from having to cut what he could (which happened to be some of the more important players in the dressing room) while being unable to do anything about the players sat on three year deals on big wages. He was sacked, and we went downhill fast, making a series of panickly appointments while giving them absolutely nothing to work with. The result was we had to off most of our senior pros during the 19/20 season, and we finished it with a load of U23s on the pitch, most of whom are still with the club.

Last season was the final nail, an utter farce. The chairman for once made a shrewd managerial appointment but too late, with less than a month until the start of the season. He criminally left him under a transfer embargo, forcing him to start the season again with mainly a load of kids and whoever he could beg, steal and borrow as other clubs had snapped up all the decent free agents. Unsurprisingly we were rock bottom with something like 5 points in early December.

Molesley was slowly turning things round, sacrificing style for a tactic designed to frustrate far superior opponents and nick the odd win and draws. Unfortunately, we had absolutely no firepower all season and while things did improve, it was not enough to save Molesley. Brown game in and while there was the expected slight upturn in form, an absolutely criminal 2-0 defeat to our arch rivals (ever the one to pass the buck, he has blamed this defeat on our match analyst who he promptly dismissed) Colchester, which basically relegated us.

In the background, the club has been left utterly neglected and skint, failing to pay players on time, facing winding up orders, being placed under transfer embargoes, and treating people terribly at every turn. It's a downward spiral that has lasted the best part of four years, but there is hope on the horizon that with a deal struck between the council and the club easing our financial situation, things might have bottomed out. If planning permission is finally granted for the stadium, there is hope that the owner's work here will be done, and he will be able to sell the club to a more reliable and competent custodian.

OK, maybe it wasn't such a short answer.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 06, 2021, 09:13:59 PM
Ta 1906.   Always interesting to hear how Clubs fall from Grace or the opposite seeing in fancied Clubs succeeding.

Hopefully there is an upturn for your club just around the corner ( after Aug 14th of course)
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 06, 2021, 10:24:17 PM
Very interesting post 1906......thank you. (Thanks Mall for asking.............that awful downward spiral shrouded often in mistrust has happened to many a club, including one in Blue and Gold in the not too distant past)
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: rod on August 07, 2021, 10:18:17 AM
Sad but also a great advertisement for community based clubs run with the direct involvement of a supporters Trust?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 07, 2021, 10:28:09 AM
Interesting that 2 previous Southend Managers have Norwich connections.   Rob Newman and Kevin Bond.

Also a previous Shrimpers Manager had both Norwich and Kings Lynn connections..... Peter Morris.

Also forgotten the late Bobby Moore was once Manager at Roots Hall.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 07, 2021, 12:32:24 PM
We (literally) bumped into Bobby Moore when we played Gravesend in our Southern League days. He was Manager of Southend and was having a look at a centre half playing for Gravesend.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 07, 2021, 07:09:41 PM
1906, that makes a good read. Many thanks.

£20,000,000 to end up in the same league and level as Kings Lynn.

Maybe people chasing the dream of league football at all costs, should take note.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 07, 2021, 07:26:33 PM
1906, that makes a good read. Many thanks.

£20,000,000 to end up in the same league and level as Kings Lynn.

Maybe people chasing the dream of league football at all costs, should take note.

I bet they don't.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 07, 2021, 08:11:16 PM
1906, that makes a good read. Many thanks.

£20,000,000 to end up in the same league and level as Kings Lynn.

Maybe people chasing the dream of league football at all costs, should take note.

I bet they don't.

Probably not.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Bluboy on August 07, 2021, 10:54:52 PM
Iíve read somewhere on a site itís no segregation even standingÖ surely a recipe for trouble canít have pockets of fans everywhere !!!
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 08, 2021, 07:19:30 AM
Iíve read somewhere on a site itís no segregation even standingÖ surely a recipe for trouble canít have pockets of fans everywhere !!!
Calling K9  :phone:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 08, 2021, 09:28:15 PM
Some interesting comments on Sarfend forum.

https://www.shrimperzone.com/forums/threads/kings-lynn-and-wealdstone-tickets.107824/page-12

Apparently the Walks has a capacity of 8,000!



Copied and pasted one of the posts, but all pages of the thread ( Kings Lynn and Wealdstone tickets) makes interesting  reading if People have the time.



Mr Browns Ghost


So who has just received an absolutely shocking email from KingsLynn football club about the purchase of tickets within the main stand??




Iím contacting you today because we believe you may be away supporters booking seated tickets in the home section. We are this season segregating every fixture and donít at this moment in time have any away seating to allocate. However we understand that some people do indeed require a seat and we can accommodate your ticket allocation if you are needing this.



If you do require a seat and want your ticket to remain in force you need to contact us before 16:00 Monday 16th August 2021 and tell us your age and reasons why you require a seat. Any ticket holder that fails to respond to this email will find their tickets cancelled and you will be refused access to the ground on the day of the fixture.



Zoe Sandle

Box Office Manager

Kingís Lynn Town Football Club

Tel: 07887757704

Email: zoe.sandle@kltown.co.uk
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 08, 2021, 09:31:12 PM
Iíve read somewhere on a site itís no segregation even standingÖ surely a recipe for trouble canít have pockets of fans everywhere !!!

Apparently all our games this season will have segregation.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 08, 2021, 09:37:25 PM
How do you segregate Southend fans when we are selling tickets to them in places all over the ground?

As for their fans having to phone up to inform Zoe of their age and why they need to sit down, is this some kind of joke ?   How many are gonna just tell her what she needs to hear.

This all seems an accident waiting to happen. We are mixing with some big boys now.  People need to feel safe when attending a game of Football.

Think the Club needs to come out with a much better system of buying tickets than this. Surely Lynnís H&S Officer must be all over this one.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 08, 2021, 10:49:24 PM
Well, IF there are ANY flimsy measures in place at this level, within any club, they are likely to be quickly  highlighted and sanctions and fines could follow. Let's hope the club is "watertight". From the off we are entertaining an ex League side, whose fans, players and management expect certain standards.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: gs50 on August 09, 2021, 10:03:54 AM
When you register to buy tickets you have to give your age .surely  the away team should  be allocated so many tickets in main stand and rest is for home supporters.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 09, 2021, 10:49:40 AM
Can you imagine what will happen if 40 or so Sarfend supporters turn up with tickets to the stand, but are then refused entry?

A quick walk around to 800 of their fellow supporters to inform them how they have been treated, and all hell could break loose.

How on earth was this allowed to happen? 


Club:  "If you do require a seat and want your ticket to remain in force you need to contact us before 16:00 Monday 16th August 2021 and tell us your age and reasons why you require a seat".

What age has go to do with being allowed to sit in the stand is beyond me. Many parents with children prefer the stands for safety reasons. Have we just invented Ageism in football? You don't have to be a certain age to want to enjoy your football from a sitting position.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 09, 2021, 06:07:03 PM
According to Southend fans forum they have bought over 1200 tickets so far.  How many will the corner away section hold ?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 09, 2021, 07:35:37 PM
I have always thought the segregated area to be too small and I think it will totally inadequate for certain games this season.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 09, 2021, 07:44:07 PM
In addition Ken, I think it's a bit mean...I don't know if you agree, but the view from that corner isn't great....I would advocate giving more of the covered terrace opposite the main stand.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 09, 2021, 07:46:59 PM
 In fairness KES. watching any game from behind a goal is not the best.  Iíd never stand/sit behind a goal now.  You see half a game from there.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 09, 2021, 07:50:39 PM
That was my thought actually. I think it rained heavily during the Boston game and a lot of people had to stand and endure it as the covered section was rammed.

As far as position and view are concerned, I think it is quite common for the visiting supporters to be ' tucked away'. The last time I went to Carrow Road the visitors had a small section adjacent to the hotel.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 09, 2021, 08:02:30 PM
Yes, true and of course they have less influence on the atmosphere within the ground if tucked away
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Grissles Oleary on August 09, 2021, 08:04:36 PM
Any mention of ticket sales to Lynn fans? :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 09, 2021, 08:12:54 PM
Yes, agreed we could do with some Lynn fan ticket info....only seen the initial twitter post of over 1500 tickets sold incl. 800 for away terrace.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on August 09, 2021, 10:59:33 PM
Yes, agreed we could do with some Lynn fan ticket info....only seen the initial twitter post of over 1500 tickets sold incl. 800 for away terrace.

Based on the current numbers, does that mean there is a fair chance Southend will have more fans in than Lynn?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: dillydilly on August 10, 2021, 12:08:28 AM
I really hope the club, stewards, and police are on top of this.  If we wish to stay at this level, and now weíre here, most would, we MUST get some real sponsorship, or generosity, to build additional terraces and steps to be added to existing terraces, plus cover, or there is a danger that we simply wonít be able to cope.  There is the large flat area at the Old Hospital end of the main stand, that MUST acquire a substantial terrace as soon as possible.  We canít have large areas like that, that cannot house spectators, because there are bigger crowds waiting to come once Covid subsides, and big clubs arrive.  If we compete on the field, many more local fans are also likely.    Are there grants for such erections, available for H & S purposes ?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Grissles Oleary on August 10, 2021, 12:50:44 AM
I really hope the club, stewards, and police are on top of this.  If we wish to stay at this level, and now weíre here, most would, we MUST get some real sponsorship, or generosity, to build additional terraces and steps to be added to existing terraces, plus cover, or there is a danger that we simply wonít be able to cope.  There is the large flat area at the Old Hospital end of the main stand, that MUST acquire a substantial terrace as soon as possible.  We canít have large areas like that, that cannot house spectators, because there are bigger crowds waiting to come once Covid subsides, and big clubs arrive.  If we compete on the field, many more local fans are also likely.    Are there grants for such erections, available for H & S purposes ?


Investment in the ground and facilities is long overdue,I think that it is possible to extend the covered terrace opposite the main stand,albeit not massively? :dontknow:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Nigel nigle on August 10, 2021, 07:45:08 AM
It was the same when York City came to Lynn that although they had their areas of terracing, there were York fans in the main stand and with no trouble in that area.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Rootshallbloke on August 10, 2021, 07:53:34 AM
Morning Linnets

I think my user name makes it clear I'm a Shrimper and very much looking forward to this game. It's already been said that we will be bringing a few of the faithful along, and after so long without watching live football I reckon we all, you and us, will be up for this match. The weather forecast is looking good so it should be ideal for a good game of football. Yours is a new ground for us so are there any eateries near the ground or is it part of the complex only? Similarly, some of ours will be looking for watering holes, so are there any you would recommend? Cheers all, see you on 21st.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: 1906 on August 10, 2021, 09:42:40 AM
Away end now sold out - do you think any more tickets will be provided for visiting supporters?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 10, 2021, 09:48:36 AM
Gris, I think the terracing opp the stand already stretches almost to the corner flag so not much room there. The obvious place for new terracing, or preferably a stand is behind the hospital end and I think the Football Foundation is the place to look for funding.
If a stand was built in the correct manner there would still be room for car parking underneath.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 10, 2021, 10:03:33 AM
Surely it needs regular crowds of 5,000 to warrant a new stand being built.   Southend maybe will bring say 1200.  Will 3,800 Lynn fans turn up for this one?   Be interesting to know how many tickets have been sold for the Southend game, in total
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Tupist on August 10, 2021, 10:09:14 AM
What's the chance of all the home sections being sold out?

Wouldn't it be sensible to allocate all the Tennyson Rd end (or even the North Stand) to away fans  when a big following is expected?

Paying £21 to be packed in a corner seems a bit of a rip off and very Borehamwoodesque.


Bank Holiday Monday could prove interesting!!!!
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 10, 2021, 12:29:32 PM
Mall, I thought SC mentioned in a podcast that we will be required to increase the seating capacity sometime.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 10, 2021, 12:33:48 PM
Kenny, I would have thought it more prudent to payback the debt SC has run up in the Clubs name without potentially lumbering it with even more debt by building a new Stanís that could well not be needed.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 10, 2021, 12:46:12 PM
Mall, I can't disagree with that sentiment but the Football Foundation gives grants, not loans.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 10, 2021, 01:31:35 PM
Nice to see Stan getting a mention...gone but not  forgotten :laughcry:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 10, 2021, 03:47:43 PM
Mall, I can't disagree with that sentiment but the Football Foundation gives grants, not loans.

Get that Kenny but would they stump up the full amount of a % of the cost?  Would the Council be prepared to support it and slap it on the rates. The Club would have to contribute a certain %, I assume. Thatís the bit thatís raises a flag.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 10, 2021, 05:40:34 PM
70%of eligible costs up to 400k, by the looks of it....so on a covered area costing 250000 club would need to find 75k...... don't think The Trust or Friends are quite ready for that.

Does The National Lottery provide separately for this type of thing ?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 10, 2021, 07:07:47 PM
70%of eligible costs up to 400k, by the looks of it....so on a covered area costing 250000 club would need to find 75k...... don't think The Trust or Friends are quite ready for that.

Does The National Lottery provide separately for this type of thing ?

Use the loan money.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 10, 2021, 07:23:48 PM
Don't think you can........thought it had to be used to support day to day activities and to keep club afloat, rather than an extra investment.... probably ok if it was a grading requirement.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on August 10, 2021, 08:29:37 PM
I really hope the club, stewards, and police are on top of this.  If we wish to stay at this level, and now weíre here, most would, we MUST get some real sponsorship, or generosity, to build additional terraces and steps to be added to existing terraces, plus cover, or there is a danger that we simply wonít be able to cope.  There is the large flat area at the Old Hospital end of the main stand, that MUST acquire a substantial terrace as soon as possible.  We canít have large areas like that, that cannot house spectators, because there are bigger crowds waiting to come once Covid subsides, and big clubs arrive.  If we compete on the field, many more local fans are also likely.    Are there grants for such erections, available for H & S purposes ?
That large parcel of land was part of the ground until the mid-late 60s. Used to be a scoreboard there that we used to climb at half time to give the scores from the then Division 1.
In the early 2000s when on the management committee i am sure that the materials were bought for a covered standing area behind that goal and the last i heard the materials were stored on the docks. Heard nothing more about that though.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 10, 2021, 09:08:22 PM
That's really interesting and the sort of info that only someone who has been around the club for some time and been deeply involved would know about Gordon.......I wonder if anyone in the current regime is aware ? (There are many potential negatives in alienating those, that in the past have "supported the club in a variety of ways"......loss of potentially useful historical information being just one of them )



Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 10, 2021, 09:14:05 PM
Ps Remember the score board and having to check which letters/numbers related to each match by looking at the programme, if memory serves me
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: admin on August 10, 2021, 09:39:40 PM
Remember it well
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Steve C on August 10, 2021, 09:52:12 PM
I believe a lad named Pooley used to put the scores up on the scoreboard.

Also vaguely recall another set of alphabet letters down the Tennyson Avenue end of the ground, was it on the wall of the covered standing area opposite the main stand towards the corner flag or in the vacinity??
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 10, 2021, 11:01:13 PM
Kes, there is a wealth of experience out there which could have been used for the benefit of the Club and Community.

Sadly too many bridges have been burnt for that to happen now and that is a huge shame.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 11, 2021, 10:06:18 AM
I see the club is looking at finding a way to accommodate another 300 Sarfend fans at the ground.   800 in the corner, X ( unknown number) amount in the main stand.   Now a likely 300 elsewhere.

I really hope the club has all its ducks in a row for this one.  Get it wrong and the knock on effect could have repercussions for the season.

By Shrimpers fans taking seats in the main stand and now 300 more being offered elsewhere does this indicate Lynn fans are not buying into it in the way the club had hoped ?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 11, 2021, 10:22:34 AM


I really hope the club has all its ducks in a row for this one.  Get it wrong and the knock on effect could have repercussions for the season.



Yep. If our segregation and crowd control are not up to scratch when the big Clubs come calling (not saying they're not, only time will tell), it could cause major problems. i.e. future reduced capacity, ban on away fans etc.

The financial impact of that happening would be enormous. The H & S guy could well hold the future of the Club in his hands.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: gs50 on August 11, 2021, 12:06:15 PM
Hope people stick to the seats they purchase in the stand and not a fre for all how it used to be.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: rod on August 11, 2021, 12:08:07 PM
Kes, there is a wealth of experience out there which could have been used for the benefit of the Club and Community.

Sadly too many bridges have been burnt for that to happen now and that is a huge shame.

Kenny, you are so right about that. It is ludicrous that people like Gordon and there are others, have been alienated.

By the way i have never met Gordon but am very aware of his all round contribution to the club over many years.

A true supporter!!
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: dillydilly on August 11, 2021, 02:26:00 PM
Good to see ideas now being discussed.  I believe this is a major requirement area, because it is easy to imagine chaos, if our crowd grows, and hopefully it will, and the big clubs in this league bring the kind of numbers that we expect - actually even bigger numbers, if we are in a challenging position in the league.  But I canít understand why people are only mentioning additions to the small stand, and/or behind the Hospital End goal.  Agreed the Hospital end does need extra steps, absolutely. But - There is a gaping unused area between the Main Stand and the Hospital End corner flag.  At one time there was a terraced standing area there.  It could easily accommodate a very good standing terrace again, bigger than before, and erected on H & S grounds.  I canít imagine many clubs not utilising that area.  As far as Iíve seen there is just a barbecue thingy there, on odd occasions, which seems ridiculous to me, particularly for the level weíre now at.  Rant over - for now !!!
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 11, 2021, 04:23:36 PM
That is a very good suggestion Dilly. There are specialist companies which provide either terracing or seating additions to stadia.

Grants of up to 70% of the project cost are available from the Football Stadia fund to National League clubs.

Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 11, 2021, 04:58:35 PM
Kenny, donít you think there is enough debt sloshing around the Clubs accounts.  How many times in the last 50 years has The Walks sold out ?( genuine question)
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: TonyM on August 11, 2021, 06:05:27 PM
Dilly, as Mallard has implied why spend (money we don't have) on a terrace that it could easily be argued we don't need?  There are loads of 'projects' around the Walks that we 'could' do but for me unless they open up additional revenue streams for the club it would be very difficult to justify any investment on the current site. 

One of the things that is holding the club back is off-field revenue so any upgrading of the facilities needs to have this firmly as part of the business case for investing ie if we did upgrade the hospital end could other facilities be included in that upgrade that would generate an income stream (a better sized clubhouse) or allow activities that are currently housed in the main stand (possibly the changing rooms which always seem to be a problem) to be moved to allow more income to be derived from the main stand?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 11, 2021, 07:16:25 PM
Mall. I am not advocating anything. As Dilly said anything which encourages discussion is to be welcomed, particularly with the dearth of info from the Club at the moment.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on August 11, 2021, 08:40:04 PM
Kes, there is a wealth of experience out there which could have been used for the benefit of the Club and Community.

Sadly too many bridges have been burnt for that to happen now and that is a huge shame.

Kenny, you are so right about that. It is ludicrous that people like Gordon and there are others, have been alienated.

By the way i have never met Gordon but am very aware of his all round contribution to the club over many years.

A true supporter!!
Rod, firstly many thanks for those kind words. I am sure that we have met at some point possibly the BIG clubshop (now demolished) functions organised in the past, Supporters lunches etc etc. When Buster took over my first words to him were my advice is free its up to you if you want to listen and use it. Unfortunately there were mistakes made on their side such as purchasing new kits that suited speedway riders and were unacceptable by the FA. If only they had listened.
Same advice was offered to SC but the first time that we were alone he was far more interested in asking the history of Gary Setchell a person i had known since his birth as i played football with his father. Obviously i was not prepared to be grilled on that subject. He must have found someone else to source info as Setch left the club.
Just to put the record right it was Double G Clothing that left KLTFC after over 20 years of sponsorship and volunteering on my behalf. Not KLTFC dumping us. That was a massive decision to make but with what we know now it was the right one.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Badger on August 11, 2021, 10:48:08 PM
The most important thing we should consider is how do we accommodate the extra supporters from the away side at the Walks that will obviously come to support them.  The answer is straight forward in my opinion, keep the open terrace at the Tennyson Road end as it is but extend the covered standing area from that corner to the halfway line.  At least it is then possible for people who have traveled a long way to get some protection from the elements and not have to travel home wet, and cold.  Home supporters do have other areas in the ground to go to including the other half of that covered stand.

Regards - Badger  :oldman"
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 11, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Maybe we should suggest to the Sarfend supporters that they bring their own Gazebo's   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Grissles Oleary on August 11, 2021, 11:39:47 PM
Maybe we should suggest to the Sarfend supporters that they bring their own Gazebo's   :dontknow:

Or umbrellas? :rain: :rain: :rain: :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: m a hill on August 12, 2021, 01:23:26 AM
That would work
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 12, 2021, 12:04:15 PM
That's probably the easiest and most cost effective option, Badger. 

  Hope you are keeping well.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: A47 Linnet on August 12, 2021, 12:32:14 PM
I donated money in Feb and still sould get four more tickets and
a mate needs five, the ticket office is not being very helpfull at
the moment. I have passed it on to Stuart as the ticket office
is on holiday. What a place this, Mark Hearle would have helped
he has left a big hole all the contacts he made will now go out of
the window, what mess, I also had it confirmed to me that SC does
ask for a £1,000 to run a Burger bar at ground he clearly is
not quite with It thought it was some one with a wind up when I
first heard this, I think Mark Hearle could see the light and got
out.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 12, 2021, 01:10:28 PM
Suddenly, its appears there are lots of people that have become very surprised with whats happening (or not happening) at the Club!   

Where have they suddenly come from? Where have they been hiding? Why have they suddenly become so vocal on social media (that's if you can you become vocal on social media)?

After all, nothing has really changed.   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 12, 2021, 01:42:38 PM
Think everything is heightened and expectations raised with the club now being full time and NL.   ......and quite right too IMO.......the failings on the infra structure and supporting the fans is really coming to the fore and will bite back before too long, if it isn't already, in terms of income and crowds
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 12, 2021, 02:05:10 PM
Doesnít help having a Chairman who is serving a ban for 5 years worth of misdemeanours on Social Media.

Maybe itís the clever ones who have cut their ties and moved on.  Well from official posts anyway.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: dillydilly on August 12, 2021, 02:19:51 PM
Canít understand the idea that weíll be spending money on terracing we donít need. That may have been true in the UCL, or the Southern League, but now, with size of clubs that are about  to come here, I think itís essential.  If we compete in the league, the gates may swell enormously.  The terrace behind the Tennyson Road goal isnít good enough.  It is far too flat, and needs several more steps, if that is the ď AwayĒ end.  If we travel to a ground at NL level, we would expect more than a corner view on virtually flat ground.  The cash required should pour through the gates to pay for the 30% of the cost that we would have to find.  And the flat ďbarbecueĒ area between the Main Stand and the Hospital End corner flag could accommodate loads more paying customers.  It all depends on us competing in the league, though, I admit.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 12, 2021, 03:12:23 PM
Spend nothing unless we are confident we can stay up. If we don't, there does not seem to be a lot of sense in putting the club in further debt when the Ground is just about adequate for NL North or South.

If the payments on current loan are not met, which I believe is on record as saying we can't afford to pay back (have to be careful here, as someone seems to like deleting posts/tweets when it suits) and the worst happens, then the ground is adequate for SPL.

A season of extreme caution is required imho, especially as the Pandemic still holds the world by the throat. We mustn't forget that there is still the possibility of a further lockdown, although thankfully that does appear to be receding at the moment.

If we are put in lock down again or we have to live under restrictions of some sort, I really can't see any more grants, or even cheap loans being offered. That means no money to pay existing costs, let alone additional ones, however small they are.

If people really want to spend money on the ground, now is probably the time to join the FOTL's and assist then in raising money for such projects. So hopefully, the matter of the on line application form will be addressed soon.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: m a hill on August 12, 2021, 05:18:21 PM
The gentleman who was going to fix the online payments has resigned so Iam back to square one on that one but someone will step forward and help get it sorted,so we need a new secretary that can help.Thanks for the plug B&G and you are so right the more fans that join the Surporters club the sooner we can move forward
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 12, 2021, 06:29:26 PM
Is that a committee member who has left Malc ?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 12, 2021, 06:48:19 PM
The gentleman who was going to fix the online payments has resigned......

Is that Josh?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: dillydilly on August 12, 2021, 07:11:55 PM
I fully agree with Blue and Goldís post.  No majorr outlay until we really are on top of Covid.  I stand corrected on my suggestion, but was actually referring to a post Covid era.  At the moment the virus puts everything else on the back-burner.  Have to say, though, although I appreciate the efforts of FOTL volunteers, and wish them every success, I donít believe the ground improvements will come from that source, as the money required is more than they could expect to raise.  Plenty of other areas in which their efforts will be hugely appreciated.  But the ground improvements need big sponsorship and grants from relevant companies.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 12, 2021, 07:18:37 PM
I fully agree with Blue and Goldís post.  No majorr outlay until we really are on top of Covid.  I stand corrected on my suggestion, but was actually referring to a post Covid era.  At the moment the virus puts everything else on the back-burner.  Have to say, though, although I appreciate the efforts of FOTL volunteers, and wish them every success, I donít believe the ground improvements will come from that source, as the money required is more than they could expect to raise.  Plenty of other areas in which their efforts will be hugely appreciated.  But the ground improvements need big sponsorship and grants from relevant companies.

Wasn't the current Stand paid for by a previous supporters club?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on August 12, 2021, 07:58:05 PM
Yes Blue and Gold in the mid 50s the then Supporters Club did pay for the main stand to be built. Nearly 70 years on and it will need some very serious money to update and also add to around the ground.
Bring back John Fincham as commercial manager, ex bank manager and what he didn't know wasn't worth knowing.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 12, 2021, 07:59:57 PM
Wasnít Fincham involved at the Football Club in Attleborough ?  Maybe after he left Lynn
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 12, 2021, 08:26:23 PM
Bring back John Fincham as commercial manager........

You'd wish that on John?   :dontknow:

 :laughcry:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: m a hill on August 12, 2021, 10:15:54 PM
B&G  yes it was
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 12, 2021, 10:51:55 PM
B&G  yes it was


Thanks M A.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: happymondays on August 13, 2021, 08:12:41 AM
As a Kings Lynn fan for over 30 years I feel the need to clarify what I think is most fans position on next Saturdays game.The club has totally mismanaged the situation regarding ticket sales ,fan segregation, social media updates and general advertising and arrangements etc etc.I have been following the Southend forums and we as a club are seen as a bit of a joke.Away fans are the life blood of football and create an amazing atmosphere and should be welcomed and encouraged but also segregated.The magnitude of this league and all of the upcoming games should have come as no surprise to anyone especially the people running the club but it appears to be a calamity. As we know our fans do turn out for big games and I can guarantee there will be crowd issues especially in the main stand if somebody doesn't take control of this quickly.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Henry18 on August 13, 2021, 09:58:08 AM
Good Morning guys,

Southend fan here in peace, Iím just wondering if anyone could shed some light on best places to park nearby to the ground, Iím coming in my van so canít be anywhere with a height restriction, I saw somewhere that we can use the station car park if someone could confirm this.

Thanks in advance really looking forward to this away day
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 13, 2021, 10:26:53 AM
Good Morning guys,

Southend fan here in peace, Iím just wondering if anyone could shed some light on best places to park nearby to the ground, Iím coming in my van so canít be anywhere with a height restriction, I saw somewhere that we can use the station car park if someone could confirm this.

Thanks in advance really looking forward to this away day

Parking will be a nightmare, van or car. I wouldn't even attempt to head directly to the ground by car. Station car park is very small, although it is right next to Morrisons.

In your case, with a height restricted van, you may want to park on the side of road on the Hardwick Estate (where the Kentucky and B and Q are), and walk to the ground. Its not far (even if you don't manage to find the shortcut).

In fact, Tesco's and Sainsbury's are not really that far from the ground either (10 minute walk at a guess).
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Henry18 on August 13, 2021, 10:33:45 AM
Good Morning guys,

Southend fan here in peace, Iím just wondering if anyone could shed some light on best places to park nearby to the ground, Iím coming in my van so canít be anywhere with a height restriction, I saw somewhere that we can use the station car park if someone could confirm this.

Thanks in advance really looking forward to this away day

Parking will be a nightmare, van or car. I wouldn't even attempt to head directly to the ground by car. Station car park is very small, although it is right next to Morrisons.

In your case, with a height restricted van, you may want to park on the side of road on the Hardwick Estate (where the Kentucky and B and Q are), and walk to the ground. Its not far (even if you don't manage to find the shortcut).

In fact, Tesco's and Sainsbury's are not really that far from the ground either (10 minute walk at a guess).

Thank you very much for the advice itís much appreciated.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: happymondays on August 13, 2021, 12:41:11 PM
The solution is pretty simple
1/Section A in the main stand away fans only
2/Away standing to be extended behind the goal (Tennyson end)
3/More match day stewards
4/A well informed police force
What's difficult here lol



Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on August 13, 2021, 08:59:56 PM
Bring back John Fincham as commercial manager........

You'd wish that on John?   :dontknow:

 :laughcry:
I was only jesting. I think John is a legend of the local banking industry and his time as commercial manager at KLFC.
Unfortunately John was in Papworth hospital during the lockdown and very unwell at the time but if there is anyone who would stand up to SC (nobody else is) then John would of been the man.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on August 13, 2021, 09:05:20 PM
Good Morning guys,

Southend fan here in peace, Iím just wondering if anyone could shed some light on best places to park nearby to the ground, Iím coming in my van so canít be anywhere with a height restriction, I saw somewhere that we can use the station car park if someone could confirm this.

Thanks in advance really looking forward to this away
Parking will be a nightmare, van or car. I wouldn't even attempt to head directly to the ground by car. Station car park is very small, although it is right next to Morrisons.

In your case, with a height restricted van, you may want to park on the side of road on the Hardwick Estate (where the Kentucky and B and Q are), and walk to the ground. Its not far (even if you don't manage to find the shortcut).

In fact, Tesco's and Sainsbury's are not really that far from the ground either (10 minute walk at a guess).
A better idea is the roadside parking on the Horsley Fields industrial estate PE30 5DD which is a 10 minute walk to the ground.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 13, 2021, 09:06:57 PM
Unfortunately John was in Papworth hospital during the lockdown and very unwell at the time but if there is anyone who would stand up to SC (nobody else is) then John would of been the man.

That's a big problem Gordon.

Some so desperate to hang onto their links with the Club, however tenuous that may be,  they are prepared to close their eyes to all that's wrong.

Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on August 13, 2021, 09:13:18 PM
Unfortunately John was in Papworth hospital during the lockdown and very unwell at the time but if there is anyone who would stand up to SC (nobody else is) then John would of been the man.

That's a big problem Gordon.

Some so desperate to hang onto their links with the Club, however tenuous that may be,  they are prepared to close their eyes to all that's wrong.
Would you like to know who will be the next to jump ship?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 13, 2021, 09:16:05 PM
Unfortunately John was in Papworth hospital during the lockdown and very unwell at the time but if there is anyone who would stand up to SC (nobody else is) then John would of been the man.

That's a big problem Gordon.

Some so desperate to hang onto their links with the Club, however tenuous that may be,  they are prepared to close their eyes to all that's wrong.
Would you like to know who will be the next to jump ship?

More importantly, do these people know that there's something in the pipeline?  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Mallard on August 13, 2021, 09:21:41 PM
Itís been one big boys club for a while. Did sort one or two out when they were asked to pay admission to get in.   Didnít go down well that one.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 13, 2021, 09:24:27 PM

A season of extreme caution is required imho, especially as the Pandemic still holds the world by the throat. We mustn't forget that there is still the possibility of a further lockdown, although thankfully that does appear to be receding at the moment.

If we are put in lock down again or we have to live under restrictions of some sort, I really can't see any more grants, or even cheap loans being offered. That means no money to pay existing costs, let alone additional ones, however small they are.


Apparently two games already called off due to squad members testing positive.

We're not out of the woods yet! Let's hope all Clubs are as stringent with their Covid testing!
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on August 13, 2021, 09:30:39 PM

A season of extreme caution is required imho, especially as the Pandemic still holds the world by the throat. We mustn't forget that there is still the possibility of a further lockdown, although thankfully that does appear to be receding at the moment.

If we are put in lock down again or we have to live under restrictions of some sort, I really can't see any more grants, or even cheap loans being offered. That means no money to pay existing costs, let alone additional ones, however small they are.


Apparently two games already called off due to squad members testing positive.

We're not out of the woods yet! Let's hope all Clubs are as stringent with their Covid testing!
Club doctors should refuse to participate at any club if they are not happy with the vaccination programme. Then there would be even more serious issues on matchday!
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 13, 2021, 09:41:43 PM

A season of extreme caution is required imho, especially as the Pandemic still holds the world by the throat. We mustn't forget that there is still the possibility of a further lockdown, although thankfully that does appear to be receding at the moment.

If we are put in lock down again or we have to live under restrictions of some sort, I really can't see any more grants, or even cheap loans being offered. That means no money to pay existing costs, let alone additional ones, however small they are.


Apparently two games already called off due to squad members testing positive.

We're not out of the woods yet! Let's hope all Clubs are as stringent with their Covid testing!
Club doctors should refuse to participate at any club if they are not happy with the vaccination programme. Then there would be even more serious issues on matchday!


Hopefully the H and S Guy is still his own man and keeps an eye on things as he did before.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: m a hill on August 14, 2021, 01:26:58 AM
In my humble opinion the vacation should be made compulsory,donít the people who are not having the jabs are spreading this deadly virus
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 14, 2021, 07:23:18 AM
In my humble opinion the vacation should be made compulsory,donít the people who are not having the jabs are spreading this deadly virus

Is SC  on a compulsory vacation then?
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 14, 2021, 08:46:55 AM
In my humble opinion the vacation should be made compulsory,donít the people who are not having the jabs are spreading this deadly virus

Compulsory vacations.

I think you'll get the vote on that one!

 :laughcry:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 14, 2021, 09:54:18 AM
Fiendish idea !  :laughcry:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: KES80 on August 14, 2021, 10:22:54 AM
Have to say that that is one conspiracy theory that I haven't heard before.

Is there a direct correlation then Malcolm, between people refusing to holiday and  those going down with Covid ? Kinda flies in the face of self isolation advice.

Think you will find that lax border control, pursuit of herd immunity, inadequate test and trace and poor lockdown timing has contributed more to deaths than people not taking holidays or refusing jabs.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 14, 2021, 10:27:23 AM
In my humble opinion the vacation should be made compulsory,donít the people who are not having the jabs are spreading this deadly virus

Compulsory vacations.

I think you'll get the vote on that one!

 :laughcry:


Fiendish idea !  :laughcry:


Do you think there's any chance of getting an on line application form put on the website?

Guaranteed a big take up!

 :scarf:
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: m a hill on August 14, 2021, 01:34:50 PM
I know we are dragging our feet on this but when you ask people to implement it and they do nothing,il have to take the  flack but it is now in the hands of someone else and Iím sure he wil get the job done
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: 1906 on August 14, 2021, 07:36:19 PM
As a Kings Lynn fan for over 30 years I feel the need to clarify what I think is most fans position on next Saturdays game.The club has totally mismanaged the situation regarding ticket sales ,fan segregation, social media updates and general advertising and arrangements etc etc.I have been following the Southend forums and we as a club are seen as a bit of a joke.Away fans are the life blood of football and create an amazing atmosphere and should be welcomed and encouraged but also segregated.The magnitude of this league and all of the upcoming games should have come as no surprise to anyone especially the people running the club but it appears to be a calamity. As we know our fans do turn out for big games and I can guarantee there will be crowd issues especially in the main stand if somebody doesn't take control of this quickly.

I think there's an element of our (Southend's) support who have refused to accept that we are where we are. If anyone is the joke, we are. We are a club that averages gates of 7,000. If you plonked us back in League One now, we'd probably be in the top half of clubs on attendance. The fact our football club is in non-league is a massive indictment on how it has been run, and so anyone accusing you of being a joke is, in my opinion and many others, somewhat lacking in self reflection.

Personally I found your online ticketing site to be an absolute breeze. If you contrast it to the pain in the arse I had getting tickets to the west ham U23 friendly at Roots Hall (let's ignore the fact our ticketing line is still selling away tickets to Rotherham and Ipswich according to the automated message), it seems you're getting things right on that score. Perhaps in hindsight dangling the extra 300 tickets and then deleting the tweet rather than the club holding its hands up and saying it wasn't possible was a mistake. But mistakes are made and will I am sure be learnt from.

I understand you have progressed through the leagues massively over the last few years and you should be congratulated for finding yourselves at this level. We, or specifically our chairman, should be beaten with a big stick in front of a paying audience at the end of the pier for us finding ourselves at this level. But that is football, and don't we all love it.

So I wouldn't take any notice of the moans of a few fans who seem to think we're still in the big time. It might take a few months for them to get back down to earth.

I can't wait for the game and to watch proper football again with family and friends. I'll be up early, as many of us will, in town for the 10.35am arrival from King's Cross and in search of decent ale and some good conversation with some of your fans. I think it will be a fascinating insight into what we have got in store over the next nine months, and it's all part of the journey.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 14, 2021, 07:43:35 PM
That is a very well put together post and gives us all food for thought.

As regards ale the FENMAN pub is directly across the road from the station ( someone will correct me if it is closed) and the pubs near the ground are the LORD NAPIER, LIVE AND LET LIVE, and the LONDON PORTERHOUSE which are small, small, and smaller!

There is a Wetherspoons in the town centre.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: 1906 on August 14, 2021, 07:47:46 PM
Cheers Kenny. What say you about the Crown and Mitre, on the riverside? That's where I'm looking at and potentially a stop at a micropub or two on the walk to The Walks.

Will be avoiding Spoons if I can.
Title: Re: Southend Tickets.
Post by: kenny r on August 14, 2021, 08:16:41 PM
Roger at the Crown and M always has a good selection of ales and the setting is superb especially if the tide is high ( could be a song).

Roger is one of those ' grumpy old men' so be prepared to give it back.
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