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Title: Southend (21st August)
Post by: TonyM on August 18, 2021, 01:53:40 PM
So, just three days until the big kick-off (COVID permitting) and we can all get back to worrying about what happens for 90 minutes on that patch of grass at the Walks and (temporarily) forget about everything else at the club and maybe the world in general.

In the absence of any news coming out of the club, we have to assume Culverhouse will be limited to the squad he has had during pre-season plus the recent addition of Rowley from Chesterfield.  Not sure where we are on the injury front after Alfreton but assuming everyone (bar Jones) is fit do we think he will go for 3 or 4 at the back and how many of Dilly's nipsters should he pick?

Personally I would go for:
                Jones
   McFadden, Fernandez, Bird
Barrows, Coleman, Sundire, Denton
                  King
         Omotayo, Morias

leaving a bench of Fleming, Bowry, Clunan, Rowley, Gyasi

To be fair, I have no idea as to which two from three of the new centre halves are better / are more likely to form a partnership and we do still look short of a forward on the bench.  My main hope for the season is that we can somehow get back to playing some of the football that IC encouraged at steps 3 and 2 but we got so far away from last season due to a mix of not replacing  players who couldn't handle the step up and recruiting players who didn't fit that pattern, hopefully the off season will have gone some way to addressing both issues but the squad does look paper thin
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 18, 2021, 02:35:57 PM
Looks about right Tony.  Think Iíd go with Bowry for Fernandez.    We do look painfully thin in terms of numbers.    Is that down to not being able to find the right bodies,lack of budget  Or players not wanting to come ?

What is the story with Alex Brown, injured, moved on ?

Iím going for a 2-2 draw.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: TonyM on August 18, 2021, 02:54:04 PM
...What is the story with Alex Brown, injured, moved on ?

Potentially was on trial with Altrincham but I have just looked and he is not listed in their squad.  Also they have a current squad photo on their website unlike Lynn where you can play the 'who is still with us' game  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 18, 2021, 03:02:22 PM
Yes, I would accord with that line up Tony. Bowry was injured during pre season Mall..
I suspect since he has not featured much so far, that he could well be on the bench for Saturday.

Didn't know the Alty angle on Brown...thanks for that Tony. Brown has ,I believe, one season left on his Lynn contract.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 18, 2021, 03:22:33 PM
Good point re- Bowry, KES.

Canít believe IC is happy going into a season this thin on players. I guess the lad Gascoigne goes into the mix as well

Have we got anyone out wide to collect those over hit crosses ?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: TonyM on August 18, 2021, 03:37:38 PM
Good point re- Bowry, KES.

Canít believe IC is happy going into a season this thin on players. I guess the lad Gascoigne goes into the mix as well

Have we got anyone out wide to collect those over hit crosses ?

To be fair to Gascoigne, he looked very lightweight when he got his chance last year and could probably do with a year playing senior football at a lower level (step 3?) regularly as opposed to getting the odd spot on the bench at Lynn, I would say the same for Fleming too but given the depth of the squad we probably can't afford one less body at present.

As for the over hit crosses, both full backs have found the net in pre-season so can we assume they will have a more advanced role this season?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 21, 2021, 08:28:46 AM

King's Lynn Town FC
@officialKLtown

10h
2,500 tickets sold for the game against
@SUFCRootsHall
 Football is back.  There are just 10 premier seats left to sell and 260 standard seats.  Hospitality is sold out - please arrive early so no one misses kick off.


Apparently 1500 Southend fans in that figure
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: m a hill on August 21, 2021, 08:44:48 AM
Bring it on
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 21, 2021, 09:01:19 AM
To right Malc.  First game of the season.  You canít wack it.    Good opportunity for FOTL to make a few bob as well, with a captive audience like that.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: dillydilly on August 21, 2021, 10:08:05 AM
Good luck to the team, and consequently the fans.  Canít have an opinion on your nipster query, TonyM, because the nipsters in the club havenít been assessed at Dilly headquarters, as I havenít seen any of the newbies yet.  Dillification of the selection always hopes to see a team with players capable of keeping the opponents on the back foot for as much of the time as possible, because I believe that, in the tide and flow of the playing waves, it is better to have attackers defending, when necessary, than defenders attacking.  Prediction, on guesswork, until analysis can be made at headquarters - KLTFC 1 Sarfend 2Ö.  but, like all on here, Iíd love that score to be reversed, and hopefully increased !
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 21, 2021, 02:42:55 PM
1-0 to Lynn, via an 89th minute penalty.

 :scarf:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 21, 2021, 04:57:31 PM
2683 attendance. Massive V Sign to SC?  :cheers:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 21, 2021, 05:02:06 PM
Massive V Sign to SC.

I thought we lost!
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 21, 2021, 05:08:04 PM
Massive V Sign to SC.

I thought we lost!

Read again :yellow card:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 21, 2021, 05:11:24 PM
Massive V Sign to SC.

I thought we lost!

Read again :yellow card:

I thought V was for victory?   :laughcry:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 21, 2021, 05:29:30 PM
No shame in going down to a narrow opening day defeat against a Club the size of Sarfend.  Imagine being a Barnet fans this evening.

As for the gate.   I donít see it as a V to SC.  More the fact the fans of a certain age might feel unsure about being in a stadium with 2,500 others.  Plus in the last 12 months people will be in the habit of doing other things of a Saturday afternoon.

It might take a while to build the home support back up.  Think itís crucial to get the Clubs PR machine crank up to deliver. 
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: dillydilly on August 21, 2021, 05:36:14 PM
Donít get the vitriol against SC.  Heís the major part of why weíre now at this level !  Keep the faith.  But I do think we badly need creative midfielders and genuine goal scorers.  Still believe, and will accept the flack for it, that in a team that can get men up in numbers, therefore creating openings, Marriott or Southwell would retrieve their eye for goalÖ.. ??!!
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 21, 2021, 05:38:50 PM
 No Vitriol here  You're entitled to your spin Mallard.  Falls short of the much lauded 4000 + gate. Has the bubble
finally burst.  Please discuss. :cheers:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 21, 2021, 05:43:05 PM
Just as well we signed Linton with Morias now off-pitch for the next 3 games.

Anyone heard anything re King.

Personally thought the midfield looked on paper a little lightweight.

If Lynn are running with a squad of 19 incl Fleming and Gascoigne and with Jones still recovering, then the remaining 16 need to be fit and available whenever possible, because that is the 11 and the 5 subs with no room for manoeuvre.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 21, 2021, 05:49:52 PM
Poor attendance nothing to do with covid  I'm afraid it's to do with apathy towards the pricing and the poor marketing of the game.A creative midfielder is a must Clunan was busy but needs help and  the sending off was stupid from our lad.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 21, 2021, 05:51:21 PM
No Vitriol here  You're entitled to your spin Mallard.  Falls short of the much lauded 4000 + gate. Has the bubble
finally burst.  Please discuss. :cheers:

I really did think we would be 4000 there today. Really surprised we missed that figure by a country mile.   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 21, 2021, 05:55:04 PM
Donít forget to factor in Marcus we are smack bang in the middle of the holiday season plus with so many millions having been furloughed over the last 18 months then expendable money is not as free as perhaps it once was.

Sure maybe a few have baulked at the prices SC has set but I feel the answers are more wide spread than just that.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: newlinnet2019 on August 21, 2021, 05:58:20 PM
2683 attendance. Massive V Sign to SC?  :cheers:

Well what does one expect when one hikes up the price of everything!

Will anyone take note.....I very much doubt it.

So more Southend supporters than linnets there.
I thought you were supposed to try to attract your local community supporters.
 :banghead;
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 21, 2021, 06:08:36 PM
As I said to my mate today if you charge the highest price then you have to deliver the best experience. I had to find  my own seat as the stewards didn't have a clue and the hospital end gate wasn't even fully open at the end lol the tannoy sounded knackered...I think Phil Browns suit cost more than our match day operations
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 21, 2021, 06:15:43 PM
Nobody is listening.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 21, 2021, 06:24:39 PM
Is there anybody still there to listen ?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 21, 2021, 06:26:03 PM
Donít forget to factor in Marcus we are smack bang in the middle of the holiday season plus with so many millions having been furloughed over the last 18 months then expendable money is not as free as perhaps it once was.

Sure maybe a few have baulked at the prices SC has set but I feel the answers are more wide spread than just that.

Fair enough Mallard, but why would someone think they can increase prices on what is not an essential item, when they are fully aware that people have been furloughed and money is not as free as it once was? Surely that would point to a price decrease being required rather than an increase.

If people are put off by fear of Covid, or the price, surely there's a course of action that could be taken for both problems. 

Do you think any demographic research has been performed prior to prices being fixed?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: newlinnet2019 on August 21, 2021, 06:31:47 PM
so many millions having been furloughed over the last 18 months then expendable money is not as free as perhaps it once was.

Ifs that's the case Mall then why would you then set the prices so high and try to get blood out of a stone.

I recently read up about a certain person's past dealings and must say I weren't very impressed!
Does a leopard ever change it's spots.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Coastal linnet on August 21, 2021, 06:37:00 PM
Second highest National League attendance today.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 21, 2021, 06:42:52 PM
By Southend fans in our ground
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 21, 2021, 06:46:06 PM
Second highest National League attendance today.

Yes, but that doesn't alter the fact that it looks as if many of the locals stayed away.

If it had been Barnet/Wealdstone/Weymouth, we could  well have seen only 1200 for the opening game of the season.

As nice as it is to see the big boys bring 1500, maintaining and increasing the home fan base has surely got to be the main priority.  :dontknow:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 21, 2021, 06:55:02 PM
1200 x23 =27600

1800x18=32400


Really just depends on levels of away support each week  and how much you are prepared to sacrifice home advantage for cash I guess
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 21, 2021, 06:55:49 PM
Like the maths Kes
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 21, 2021, 06:58:21 PM
4000 x 15 = 60.000
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 21, 2021, 07:18:44 PM
Don't forget it's NON league  football being discuss here.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 21, 2021, 07:23:29 PM
I figure the people who are going to turn up every home game will pay the admission asked.    The others will turn up a limited amount of times a season and still still pay the ticket price.   

Then you have the winning mentality factor.   When you are up there battling the casual supporter will be tempted to come and again pay the ticket price.  These people will never be regulars no matter how much cheaper you make it.   

People are talking about 15 quid admission.  What is it at the mo ? £15.  Are people really put off by just 2 quid ?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 21, 2021, 07:35:24 PM
Everyone has their tipping point Mall....... personally I reckon no Covid Concerns would add  150-200 to today's gate.  I think some have made a decision before the season start that prices have gone too high to attend regularly and some who used to come say a dozen times a season have decided to make it less.......that probably knocked another 200-300off the gate. I reckon at least 350-400short on today's match....would have expected at least 1500-1600 from Lynn and possibly 1800, and a total gate of 3000-3300.


If we are at home to Wealdstone on a cold, wet evening the attendance could be pretty low for this league if more aren't encouraged to go.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Owldtup on August 21, 2021, 07:36:37 PM
Must say that I agree completely with Mallards comments on the crowd. As one of those of a particular age group I,m still unsure of large crowds and the covid effect. Many people are also away at this time of year during school holidays . Listening to the Radio Essex commentary once the Linnets got going they gave a good fist of a game. Donít normally comment on the forum but believe The Linnets have done brilliantly to get this far and hope they maintain their present status which would have not been possible without SC and his team.
Always a football fan.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 21, 2021, 07:45:40 PM
KES on a wet Tuesday night v Wealdstone I donít know if you could actually make it cheap enough to get a decent crowd in.

Ticket price might be one issue, but also a lot of Lynn fans have travel in ( like thee and me).  Petrol is at £1.33 a litre.  Maybe we should ask for petrol to be at prices of a year ago as it makes it too expensive to travel to the Walks.

All kind of factors will effect the gate.   Canít really blame Cleeve for all of them
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Owldtup on August 21, 2021, 07:53:30 PM
Perhaps itís worth remembering that the large contingent of Southend fans travelled and paid the admission fee.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 21, 2021, 08:09:35 PM
So the simple question is ...Why are we the most expensive and what is the justifying logic.......
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 21, 2021, 08:13:11 PM

Ticket price might be one issue, but also a lot of Lynn fans have travel in ( like thee and me).  Petrol is at £1.33 a litre.  Maybe we should ask for petrol to be at prices of a year ago as it makes it too expensive to travel to the Walks.


Carpool.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 21, 2021, 08:14:27 PM
Perhaps itís worth remembering that the large contingent of Southend fans travelled and paid the admission fee.

Yes that's the one time they will have to all season !
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 21, 2021, 08:21:23 PM
KES on a wet Tuesday night v Wealdstone I donít know if you could actually make it cheap enough to get a decent crowd in.

Ticket price might be one issue, but also a lot of Lynn fans have travel in ( like thee and me).  Petrol is at £1.33 a litre.  Maybe we should ask for petrol to be at prices of a year ago as it makes it too expensive to travel to the Walks.

All kind of factors will effect the gate.   Canít really blame Cleeve for all of them




I am a big fan of what SC has achieved at the club and actually don't think I blamed him for anything in the thread...... merely stated a fact that everyone has their  financial tipping point and expressed my view, that for some that point may have been reached.

But then of course Mall you know and appreciate that already, cos you are just enjoying playing both sides  :laughcry: It was you after all who questioned whether SC had got his pricing policy wrong in an earlier thread :laughcry:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 21, 2021, 08:34:05 PM
KES. I will always question things. Itís part of the make up.  I will also be prepared to listen to an alternative point of view and respect anyone who has one.  I have also been known known to change my view on some subjects.  Good to keep an open mind.

£25 for seating at NL level is a lot.  Then again if people pay it the SC is justified.  As an example I paid more than 25 quid for a round of 4 drinks last week.  Didnít stop me buying another round later in the evening.

People have the choice.  Donít wanna pay it ok, donít go. 

Like you itís a 2.5-3 hour round trip for me to watch at The Walks.  So I have to factor that in when deciding where I want to go and watch my football
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 21, 2021, 08:37:51 PM
However, I do have major concerns about fans feeling  not connected with the club and IMO that is a big area that SC needs to work on, to maximize fan involvement and financial returns.

Btw did anyone on here order an online programme......if so have you received it yet.........minevwill be Monday at the earliest.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 21, 2021, 08:42:40 PM
As an example I paid more than 25 quid for a round of 4 drinks last week. 


Either you were in London........or we live in different worlds my friend.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 21, 2021, 08:48:37 PM
I paid 60 for 4 cocktails last weekend in Cambridge but I was 6 storeys up on a rooftop terrace so my point is I was paying for top quality which is what I received.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 21, 2021, 08:56:04 PM
Well I wasnít for sure on firm ground.  Captive audience.


Interesting results today.

Setchís Bedford 3-0 FA Cup winners over St Neots.  Lowestoft with Jarv Hendo and Hawkins thrashed 6-1 at Tamworth.   Heacham winners again over Wroxham Res.  Wroxham first team convincing 5-0 winners at Lakenheath with Joe Taylor on the scoresheet with a cracker.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 21, 2021, 09:10:31 PM
Yes   interesting stuff....also  Mulbarton Wanderers beat Hadleigh United 1-0 to progress in the FACup.


Also York lost 4-0 to Gloucester in NLN and are now bottom..... pressure on the manager already..tough job that one... expectations so high
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Loughborough Linnet on August 21, 2021, 09:14:55 PM
So the simple question is ...Why are we the most expensive and what is the justifying logic.......

I think itís because it was decided we needed a bigger budget to compete in this league, and so prices went up to increase the budget. Basing decisions on what SC wants the club to be,  rather than what it can afford.

It is worth remembering the pricing structure last year was never really put to the test.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 21, 2021, 10:27:36 PM
KES. I will always question things. Itís part of the make up.  I will also be prepared to listen to an alternative point of view and respect anyone who has one.  I have also been known known to change my view on some subjects.  Good to keep an open mind.

£25 for seating at NL level is a lot.  Then again if people pay it the SC is justified.  As an example I paid more than 25 quid for a round of 4 drinks last week.  Didnít stop me buying another round later in the evening.

People have the choice.  Donít wanna pay it ok, donít go. 

Like you itís a 2.5-3 hour round trip for me to watch at The Walks.  So I have to factor that in when deciding where I want to go and watch my football

You bought a round of drinks???????

 :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Kevin Holland on August 21, 2021, 10:42:29 PM
So the simple question is ...Why are we the most expensive and what is the justifying logic.......

New facilities?

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Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 21, 2021, 10:57:29 PM
So the simple question is ...Why are we the most expensive and what is the justifying logic.......

New facilities?

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Is JC back on board?   :laughcry:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: 1906 on August 21, 2021, 11:07:50 PM
Evening Linnets, Southend fan here, had a great time visited the Eagle then the Crown and Mitre shame about the landlord forced us elsewhere to Wenn's. A great time at the Walks, well done by police (we've had issues at Portsmouth and Oxford etc in the past) and great reception from home fans. As for thegame well we won but maybe we could have had more, on another day you might have got something. good luck for the season and it was emotional having you hosting our first non league match in 101 years
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: samsdad on August 21, 2021, 11:43:05 PM
Football wise. Quite pleased what I saw today, the lesser team in spells but promising none the less against a team that will no doubt be challenging for the title.

Question tho.. apart from the food available at the away end.. was there anywhere for food for the home fans?

I may moan about this a lot but Steven cleeve really does not cater or care about the home fan?! £21 a ticket.. yes to support full time football and yes the football at times today was of a good quality but the match day experience. We queued from 2.30 and didnít see a single match day programme being sold or anywhere to get hot food?

Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: m a hill on August 22, 2021, 12:40:42 AM
There was a lad in red jacket near the first pylon selling programs on a table so how did you miss him
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Rootshallbloke on August 22, 2021, 06:38:57 AM
Morning Linnets. I share the views of 1906, the travelling faithful had a great day out, although I think we were going to enjoy ourselves regardless of the score line! No complaints on your ground, apart from the length of your grass maybe, stewards and the police were friendly and welcoming and as for the game itself, on another day the score could have been 4-3. One financial point worth mentioning, I travelled up with the Shrimpers Trust coaches, three of them, and we had to park at the Gate House Pub (for free) as your club wanted to charge £40 per coach to park at the ground.

Good luck for the rest of the season. Keep playing your passing game football, but cut that grass as it will make for a better game for your lads.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: samsdad on August 22, 2021, 07:36:04 AM
I didn't see anyone by the entrance we came in by.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: m a hill on August 22, 2021, 08:32:19 AM
Which entrance did you come in bye  I want to know  so I can fix it for future matches
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 22, 2021, 09:48:31 AM
On the subject of crowds and entry costs.  I was reading that Boreham Wood season ticket sales are down to just 308 from 446 two years ago.   So itís not just a cost scenario for people not attending.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 22, 2021, 09:54:52 AM
No, I think that's a fair point...lots of factors.......Covid fears, lack of money for some and people just having got out of the routine..... hopefully, if the Covid situation doesn't affect crowds due to restrictions, we will see home crowds gradually climb, tho being realistic it may be next Spring before things hopefully start to return to a consistent new normal
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 22, 2021, 10:13:42 AM
Iím with you KES.  I donít think we can compare today with the past few years.  All bets are off.  We donít really know what actual fallout from Covid will be on Clubs like Kings Lynn and others who have an elderly fanbase.

At SC has that Gov loan money to prop us up this season.   I guess while other clubs have wealthy backers to keep pumping money in.   Iím
Not sure SC is in their League.   Which does make you wonder why he doesnít bring in other investors.

Any ideas to why he seems reluctant to let go of any % of the Club when it would appear to benefit the club and lighten his load.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: macfleetwood1 on August 22, 2021, 10:24:55 AM
I think he would gladly welcome new investment, but check on line his past history, and ask yourself, would you?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: rod on August 22, 2021, 10:51:04 AM
So the simple question is ...Why are we the most expensive and what is the justifying logic.......

I think itís because it was decided we needed a bigger budget to compete in this league, and so prices went up to increase the budget. Basing decisions on what SC wants the club to be,  rather than what it can afford.

It is worth remembering the pricing structure last year was never really put to the test.

Increasing the price of something does not always result in the desired outcome of higher revenue?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 22, 2021, 10:54:44 AM
If you were the only fox in the chicken coop...would you invite in any other foxes.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Coastal linnet on August 22, 2021, 11:46:30 AM
This year I converted from being a Norwich season ticket holder to buying one for Lynn with the idea of watching live football on a Saturday afternoon followed by watching Norwich getting thrashed on Match Of the Day.
It was my first conversion since being changed from town gas to North Sea gas in the distant past. I arrived at the ground early  and after being body scanned and no offensive weapons or even chocolate bars or crisps I was allowed in. I have a sear in the stand and asked the steward where my seat was. He gesticulated widely in the direction of area c and I used my alphabetical skills ( practiced recently in helping my great nieces in learning to read) to find my seat which had a homemade sticker with the name of the previous incumbent on.
To the football ! A decent game. Lynn man of the match: Paul Jones.
A number of good Lynn performances; Rowley ( 2nd in m.o.m. considerations)
Like to see more of Gyasi ( a player running at defences is always exciting to watch)
Disappointing aspect: Morias' tackle and red card ( an awful challenge)

Overall, a good afternoon. After being locked down, locked in, locked up etc
it was good to be out in the fresh air!

P.s. to keep the cost down I had an enjoyable all day breakfast at Morrisons and come
December I can use my bus pass to travel to and from games.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Nemesis on August 22, 2021, 12:18:08 PM
I arrived at the ground early  and after being body scanned and no offensive weapons or even chocolate bars or crisps I was allowed in.
I wonder if the club will be fined for the flare incident.
I don't know why people do it, it could result in 3 months in prison.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Watford mick on August 22, 2021, 01:41:01 PM
Have to say thought we competed very well against a Southend side who looked a bit sharper than us for the first hour and marked us very tight
Switched off for their goal but thought defensively we looked  better than we have done for several years .
On another day might have nicked one at the end but overall can see things improving as the season progresses  .
Also   anf just my opinion     thought we looked a lot more dangerous when gyasi came on and started to run at them
Buy overall    good performance against a very hard working and organised team
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Rootshallbloke on August 22, 2021, 02:54:47 PM
A slightly uncomfortable thought, not for you guys but for the Club's stewards and security. There have been several reports on our board today that our fans on the covered terrace were on the receiving end of coins and liquids lobbed by some of your home fans standing close to them. By nature we are a noisy bunch but not known for violence but it probably wouldn't have taken much more for our lads to be over the wall and having a chat. Your club will undoubtedly have away fans that may not be inclined to let it go. Shame because it was a great day out and you deserve credit for making it so.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Bluboy on August 22, 2021, 10:23:16 PM
A slightly uncomfortable thought, not for you guys but for the Club's stewards and security. There have been several reports on our board today that our fans on the covered terrace were on the receiving end of coins and liquids lobbed by some of your home fans standing close to them. By nature we are a noisy bunch but not known for violence but it probably wouldn't have taken much more for our lads to be over the wall and having a chat. Your club will undoubtedly have away fans that may not be inclined to let it go. Shame because it was a great day out and you deserve credit for making it so.
Sorry to hear of that incident, which is a shame as after all the build up hype about segregation etc I thought how pleasant the day was with both sets off supporters mixed  , I think you share a view with many a lynn fan about that part of segregation itís way to close and personally should have netting up to stop objects thrown Ö unfortunately if something isnít done can see a major incident if it carries on !!
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 23, 2021, 12:55:48 PM
Just seen the highlights......for the first time I think we look like a proper NL outfit.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: TonyM on August 23, 2021, 02:02:30 PM
Will leave my thoughts about off-field matters for another post (think it might be a long one)

On the field I thought we did well and like KES said, we looked like a proper NL side, albeit I think both teams will finish bottom half this season.  The two new centre halves looked better than what we had previously and McFadden looked better with them alongside him.  Both wing backs had good games and Jones pulled off some good saves when we pushed forward and left ourselves open at the back later on but disappointed that he adopted the Mair MO of not coming for crosses at any point during the game.  Thought the midfield two came out second best and not sure Sundire pushed his case for replacing either of them for the next game.  Rowley looked very good and most of our good play in the first half went through him, sticking him out on the wing when we changed formation didn't help him or the side imo.  Up front, IC said on Radio Norfolk that they were too far apart and I think that is probably an understatement and why this wasn't pointed out (or acted upon) during the game is anyones guess.  I didn't think any of the subs made much of an impact, Gyasi runs around quickly but no real end product and the others stuggled to get up to the pace of the game and I don't think the change in shape helped us as much as Southend adopting a 'sit back and hit them on the break' attitude.
 
Moving forward we looked a lot more solid at the back and the wing backs provided good outlets, unfortunately IC also said that this was it for the squad so we do look very thin if we get injuries and / or silly suspensions, maybe Linton will take his opportunity over the next three games?  Would like to see another midfielder in but if the budget won't allow it then we will just have to live with what we have but we have to try and move the ball quicker although that also needs better movement from those in front of them - hopefully another week of full-time training will address some of this ready for another couple of tests this coming weekend.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: m a hill on August 24, 2021, 06:26:40 AM
Nicki when you say who donít like S C on what do you base it on ,have you met the man who has taken our team to where we are today, I for one never thought our team would be playing the likes of Chesterfield and Notts County if you would have said to me 10 seasons ago we would be playing in the conference I would have said that will never happen but here we are and a professional team and the man you donít like has got us there
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Dazzarugby65 on August 24, 2021, 06:37:13 AM
 :farmer:
Nicki when you say who donít like S C on what do you base it on ,have you met the man who has taken our team to where we are today, I for one never thought our team would be playing the likes of Chesterfield and Notts County if you would have said to me 10 seasons ago we would be playing in the conference I would have said that will never happen but here we are and a professional team and the man you donít like has got us there

 :farmer: :oldman" I take it that Buster Chapmans reign did nothing too help us on our way then?  :oldman" :farmer:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 24, 2021, 07:11:36 AM
Malc,  I think Culverhouse has had a little to do with where we are. Letís not forget when IC left Our owner appointed Simon Clark to take us further along in the pyramid. We all know how that turned out.   Thankfully Robbie Back not only steadied a sinking ship but he also managed to get Culverhouse to come back.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 24, 2021, 08:19:29 AM
Nailed it Nikki
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: dillydilly on August 24, 2021, 09:05:18 AM
Just watched the highlights, and was surprised.  IC has brought in some decent players.  The GK did very well, and Mariaís Andy Rowley looked very useful additions.  Dillification may have been a little pessimistic, S the team actually looked nippy and mobile.  Big support from locals justified for future games,Ö.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: northwootton on August 24, 2021, 09:42:09 AM
Hands up anyone who really believes the current position is sustainable.  Obviously Mr Hill does - anyone else apart from the owner?  ďInvestingĒ money in the club now is putting good money after bad I fear.  Sums raised by The Friends, believe me, wonít even scratch the surface.  The current scenario has been played out many times before by others and it only ends one way.  When that will be is anyoneís guess, but in my opinion it will be sooner rather than later.  Letís hope Iím wrong.  Not so sure that the well know phrase ďevery little helpsĒ is applicable in this case. Any other views?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 24, 2021, 10:04:13 AM
Totally agree the debt is too big to now address so its being brushed undert the carpet. There is no transparency within the club with the accounts etc.So we are now in a position of charging the highest admission in the league , delivering a poor matchday experience and a threat of the powers that be doing a moonlight flit anytime soon.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 24, 2021, 10:08:02 AM
Hands up anyone who really believes the current position is sustainable.  Obviously Mr Hill does - anyone else apart from the owner? 

I wouldn't put any money on it that even the owner believes that!   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: TonyM on August 24, 2021, 10:29:19 AM
Hands up anyone who really believes the current position is sustainable.  Obviously Mr Hill does - anyone else apart from the owner?  ďInvestingĒ money in the club now is putting good money after bad I fear.  Sums raised by The Friends, believe me, wonít even scratch the surface.  The current scenario has been played out many times before by others and it only ends one way.  When that will be is anyoneís guess, but in my opinion it will be sooner rather than later.  Letís hope Iím wrong.  Not so sure that the well know phrase ďevery little helpsĒ is applicable in this case. Any other views?

This will sound hypocritical but I completely agree with your analysis whilst also having signed up to the 12th Man scheme because I believe in IC and his squad and it is my eyes a (very, very small) way of showing a bit of extra support (and yes, I know the money all goes to the financial black hole that is 'the club').  That is the lot of a football fan, even after the so-called reset of COVID doing completely irrational things in the name of supporting the club.  Unfortunately we find ourselves at step 1 without the resources or infrastructure to support that level and, it increasing appears to be, very little idea of how we might move towards getting the structures and finance in place to even support step 2.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Ytsejam on August 24, 2021, 10:47:05 AM
Hands up anyone who really believes the current position is sustainable.  Obviously Mr Hill does - anyone else apart from the owner?  ďInvestingĒ money in the club now is putting good money after bad I fear.  Sums raised by The Friends, believe me, wonít even scratch the surface.  The current scenario has been played out many times before by others and it only ends one way.  When that will be is anyoneís guess, but in my opinion it will be sooner rather than later.  Letís hope Iím wrong.  Not so sure that the well know phrase ďevery little helpsĒ is applicable in this case. Any other views?

That is so sad but TRUE!!
The crowds are not going to be enough to sustain the club. We canít expect away numbers like Saturday too often during the season and even 1500 home fans each week (which with the admission price isnít going to happen) is not going to be anywhere near enough.
For me too sadly, itís just a matter of when, not if, the Ďbig bangí happens 😞
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 24, 2021, 01:10:52 PM
Yes, it is a major concern..........but what can we do..........the sums involved are vast and without a decent Cup run and a Commercial Director to get a couple of major sponsors on board or a complete sell out to someone extremely rich, it's difficult to see the situation improving.

I have just decided to stay in the moment and enjoy each matchday when it comes............hurrah my Southend match programme has just come through the door !
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: dillydilly on August 24, 2021, 04:35:56 PM
My last piste was incomprehensible due to typos that I didnít check.  So, just to say, the highlights surprised me.  I agree with KES andd others that we looked like a NL side.  We were a lot more cohesive and ďnippyĒ, ( dare I say).  The GK looked good, though the whole game might have shown that he didnít come for crosses.  Morals and Rowley looked the nipsters weíve lacked, and that will be even better if we include Gyasi with them.  A friend who went told me it was poor, but he only likes 50s FA Cup type football, the ball lumped up to big ugly strikers with no teeth.  We can be ok, if we keep picking mobile, not stodgy teams.  The fans will return, if and when we win a coupleÖ.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 24, 2021, 04:36:34 PM
I see Wealdstone's ticket allocation to Southend, when Southend visit The Vale is set at 800. All tickets sent to the Southend club, for them to give out before the game.

No ticket sales for any fans on matchday
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Grissles Oleary on August 24, 2021, 04:59:19 PM
Nicki when you say who donít like S C on what do you base it on ,have you met the man who has taken our team to where we are today, I for one never thought our team would be playing the likes of Chesterfield and Notts County if you would have said to me 10 seasons ago we would be playing in the conference I would have said that will never happen but here we are and a professional team and the man you donít like has got us there

He couldn't have got the team there without the fans,their cash has probably matched his? Could slightly change the words to the song, You'll get by with a little help from your friends.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 24, 2021, 05:30:47 PM
Also in IC's words....the crowd at The Walks has driven us on to where we are now or similar........which given the emphasis Southend have put on their crowd making the difference on Saturday begs an important question  :

Do you limit the away support and put more emphasis on giving the team the benefit of feeling they have got a passionate home crowd( who outnumber the away support) behind them...or do you sell out and  partly sacrifice home advantage for immediate cash.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 24, 2021, 05:45:57 PM
Away fans are a must and the more the better as they create the buzz everybody knows that.Equally they should be segregated and catered for correctlyI.Its the powers that run our clubs job to get our support at a steady 2.500 every game.
It's really not rocket science how to achieve this.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 24, 2021, 05:55:29 PM
............. here we are and a professional team and the man you donít like has got us there

I think the supporters have also played a massive part in getting us where we are. Without sufficient support,  Football Clubs are nothing and will ultimately fail.

Any Football Club Chairman that chooses to ignore supporters rather than engage with them, will have to accept that sooner or later.

Common sense?   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 24, 2021, 06:02:31 PM
Away fans are a must and the more the better as they create the buzz everybody knows that.Equally they should be segregated and catered for correctlyI.Its the powers that run our clubs job to get our support at a steady 2.500 every game.
It's really not rocket science how to achieve this.

On that basis we should have sold 4200 tickets to Southend...their following is 7000.......that would have added even more to the buzz and still left enough for the 800 Lynn fans
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 24, 2021, 06:27:17 PM
Hands up anyone who really believes the current position is sustainable.  Obviously Mr Hill does - anyone else apart from the owner?  ďInvestingĒ money in the club now is putting good money after bad I fear.  Sums raised by The Friends, believe me, wonít even scratch the surface.  The current scenario has been played out many times before by others and it only ends one way.  When that will be is anyoneís guess, but in my opinion it will be sooner rather than later.  Letís hope Iím wrong.  Not so sure that the well know phrase ďevery little helpsĒ is applicable in this case. Any other views?

Going to need a lot of first class travellers coming to the Walks  to sort that debt out
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 24, 2021, 06:39:38 PM
Kes ...the limit on away fans should be let's say 1500 .They should  have half  of the North stand and half of the Tennyson end but correctly segregated.
This leaves ample room for 2500 home fans +.This would maybe create a very atmospheric North stand for the more boisterous lads.
There could be a sectioned off area in the main stand of 100 seats max for away season ticket holders or for those who struggle to stand.
These measures would be permanent so everybody home and away knows the score .Lynn would still be able to cater for more home fans if needed.
People just need to pull their heads out of  their bums and get things moving or we as a club are going one-way .
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 24, 2021, 06:44:58 PM
Kes ...the limit on away fans should be let's say 1500 .They should  have half  of the North stand and half of the Tennyson end but correctly segregated.
This leaves ample room for 2500 home fans +.This would maybe create a very atmospheric North stand for the more boisterous lads.
There could be a sectioned off area in the main stand of 100 seats max for away season ticket holders or for those who struggle to stand.
These measures would be permanent so everybody home and away knows the score .Lynn would still be able to cater for more home fans if needed.
People just need to pull their heads out of  their bums and get things moving or we as a club are going one-way .

Which particular people are you talking about Bez?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 24, 2021, 07:00:05 PM
More Shaun Ryder to be honest...what do you mean ?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 24, 2021, 07:06:47 PM
Kes ...the limit on away fans should be let's say 1500 .They should  have half  of the North stand and half of the Tennyson end but correctly segregated.
This leaves ample room for 2500 home fans +.This would maybe create a very atmospheric North stand for the more boisterous lads.
There could be a sectioned off area in the main stand of 100 seats max for away season ticket holders or for those who struggle to stand.
These measures would be permanent so everybody home and away knows the score .Lynn would still be able to cater for more home fans if needed.
People just need to pull their heads out of  their bums and get things moving or we as a club are going one-way .


Yes, I would agree, that would be a reasonable crowd split
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 24, 2021, 07:15:08 PM
Kes ...the limit on away fans should be let's say 1500 .They should  have half  of the North stand and half of the Tennyson end but correctly segregated.
This leaves ample room for 2500 home fans +.This would maybe create a very atmospheric North stand for the more boisterous lads.
There could be a sectioned off area in the main stand of 100 seats max for away season ticket holders or for those who struggle to stand.
These measures would be permanent so everybody home and away knows the score .Lynn would still be able to cater for more home fans if needed.
People just need to pull their heads out of  their bums and get things moving or we as a club are going one-way .

Which particular people are you talking about Bez?

Is he the one who just  asses around at the front ?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 24, 2021, 07:16:43 PM
It's an acquired skill ...can you play the maracas lol
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 24, 2021, 07:22:13 PM


Is he the one who just  asses around at the front ?

Ideal volunteer material!  😂

As long as he don't "step on" any toes.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 24, 2021, 07:30:14 PM
Kids for a quid with an adult
Concessions 25 % discount
Promote and advertise the club and games
Look after fans (home and away)
Pay match day personel the correct rate
The target should be a steady 2500 home fans




Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 24, 2021, 07:38:55 PM
Kids for a quid with an adult
Concessions 25 % discount

Entrance cost?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 24, 2021, 07:43:10 PM
What did Stephen Cleeve have to say in his article for Saturdayís game ?
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 24, 2021, 07:45:47 PM
Admission needs a fiver off surely
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 24, 2021, 07:49:55 PM
Kings lynn main stand concession price is 21
Sheffield United concession price 21
Now let that sink in !!!
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 24, 2021, 08:02:15 PM
Kings lynn main stand concession price is 21
Sheffield United concession price 21
Now let that sink in !!!

Justification for a £1 price hike then?   :laughcry:
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 24, 2021, 08:05:29 PM
What did Stephen Cleeve have to say in his article for Saturdayís game ?
Did he have a piece in the Edp on Saturday?   :dontknow:

Lakey had this to say:


A crowd of 2,683 is not to be sniffed at, but with a vantage point well above the tunnel, it was clear Lynn fans were heavily out-numbered. Southend rammed their allocated area and the main stand was effectively theirs as well. A guesstimate would be not far short of 2,000 visiting fans were there for a game which, thankfully, went off without trouble. It was the first open house since March last year Ė but rough maths suggests a lot less than 1,000 Lynn fans were there. Well done to them. But for whatever reason many hundred more stayed away. That needs to change.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Mallard on August 24, 2021, 08:12:28 PM
No article from SC in the EDP last Saturday.  Thatís what made me ask what he had to say in the programme.  If he did an article.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 24, 2021, 08:24:44 PM
More Shaun Ryder to be honest...what do you mean ?


The people that you referred to with heads and bums.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: happymondays on August 24, 2021, 08:52:19 PM
As in S.C and anyone else who is driving  the current philosophy. I am going on Monday but one game at a time at the moment.
Title: Re: Southend (21st August)
Post by: KES80 on August 24, 2021, 08:59:47 PM
No article from SC in the EDP last Saturday.  Thatís what made me ask what he had to say in the programme.  If he did an article.



No article from SC in the Southend issue...... according to Mark Hearle, SC will return to the programme for Chesterfield.

There are articles from MH, Backie and MAH tho.
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