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Title: Future games
Post by: happymondays on August 22, 2021, 07:53:25 AM
Some ideas for the game and going forward
1/Kids for a quid when accompanied by an adult is a must
2/Any game advertised and promoted professionally
3/Large sign at both ends of the ground a week in advance of the next home game .
4/Paid stewards
5/An away section in the stand that is known and segregated correctly.
6/The Tennyson avenue end needs to be a fully away end for security but also so the away fans are not crushed in a corner.
7/Programmes can stay at 3.50 but have a 50/50 number printed free inside.
We are now full time and want to keep going forward but we will not accomplish this with 1200 home fans as its obviously unsustainable.
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: macfleetwood1 on August 22, 2021, 10:30:54 AM
All good ideas, good luck with it. Things like deaf ears come to mind.
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: Westhamlinnet on August 22, 2021, 11:47:55 AM
All good ideas. Certainly a need to decrease prices for oaps and under 18s. I know several regular elderly attenders who are not going anymore due to a combination of factors in part fear of covid, increasing ill health but also due to high prices. Perhaps a scheme could be introduced for regular fans a 3 match ticket. Buy tickets for two  matches at full price and get third free. Surely it is better to have more home fans in ground they will spend money on drinks etc
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: Mallard on August 22, 2021, 11:59:43 AM
How will lowering the prices help with ill health or being apprehensive with regard to Covid ?
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: Westlandallstar on August 22, 2021, 12:13:14 PM
Some ideas for the game and going forward
1/Kids for a quid when accompanied by an adult is a must
2/Any game advertised and promoted professionally
3/Large sign at both ends of the ground a week in advance of the next home game .
4/Paid stewards
5/An away section in the stand that is known and segregated correctly.
6/The Tennyson avenue end needs to be a fully away end for security but also so the away fans are not crushed in a corner.
7/Programmes can stay at 3.50 but have a 50/50 number printed free inside.
We are now full time and want to keep going forward but we will not accomplish this with 1200 home fans as its obviously unsustainable.



All good ideas, many (if not all) which wont be listened to. The biggest issue i found is having away fans in every section of the ground. Surely make the away end bigger or sort the system so away fans cant buy tickets for the home ( hard one i know). As for paid stewards, the ones in the blue (contracted stewards) are paid i believe in the region of £45 per match were as Kings lynn stewards are paid NIL.

Many positives to take away from the game and of course there is always things which can be improved upon. UTFL
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: rod on August 22, 2021, 12:28:14 PM
If price is not an issue the sky's the limit?
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: Westhamlinnet on August 22, 2021, 12:34:57 PM
I said that price is the main reason for some of course it will not impact on fear of covid or increasing ill health but attending football is a habit and once broken the link is hard to re establish. I believe it is £16 for OAPs to attend notts county
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: Dazzarugby65 on August 22, 2021, 12:36:02 PM
All good ideas. Certainly a need to decrease prices for oaps and under 18s. I know several regular elderly attenders who are not going anymore due to a combination of factors in part fear of covid, increasing ill health but also due to high prices. Perhaps a scheme could be introduced for regular fans a 3 match ticket. Buy tickets for two  matches at full price and get third free. Surely it is better to have more home fans in ground they will spend money on drinks etc

 :farmer: :oldman" Pricing needs reducing for all, not just a few, l stayed away due to price yesterday. I could afford to attend but have decided not to attend due to total amount needed to fund my afternoon at the Walks. I await all the comments about not buying food or drink or a programme,I live out of town so need transportation to matches and car parking charges and I consider this all part of the experience but there is a ceiling as to what I am prepared too pay and KLTFC have now passed that mark.  :farmer: :oldman"
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: Mallard on August 22, 2021, 12:43:09 PM
All good ideas. Certainly a need to decrease prices for oaps and under 18s. I know several regular elderly attenders who are not going anymore due to a combination of factors in part fear of covid, increasing ill health but also due to high prices. Perhaps a scheme could be introduced for regular fans a 3 match ticket. Buy tickets for two  matches at full price and get third free. Surely it is better to have more home fans in ground they will spend money on drinks etc

Sorry but I can’t see where you were saying the main reason was the price.   Health surely comes way above cost.  So to that end admission should surely come bottom of your suggested 3 reasons
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: Mallard on August 22, 2021, 12:45:35 PM
I seem to recall SC did a trial where the price was reduced and it did nothing to increase the overall gate receipts.

Surely a couple quid over the top aint that bad.  Plus remember a £1 of that goes to repaying the Clubs massive loan
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: m a hill on August 22, 2021, 12:50:30 PM
Nail on Head Mallard
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: gs50 on August 22, 2021, 01:06:32 PM
Don't think supporters can accept that home support averages between 600 to 1500 not in there thousands. The only criticism I would have is if you are going to sell seats with numbers then the seats have got to be numbered.
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: KES80 on August 22, 2021, 01:16:21 PM
If you can justify and can afford the money you will go....if you can't you won't.

I don't really buy this "it's only a couple of quid over the odds" argument.

Once the price goes above a person's threshold, that is it...whether it's by a quid or £50, as Dazza's eloquent post demonstrates.

Secondly if you are looking to attract new people/families to the ground, then every pound does matter....again as demonstrated by the Norwich fan who posted on here to say it was too expensive for him to come to Southend.


As I see it there are 2 choices.
The first is maximize the price and hope to rely on the core of 600-1500(as gs puts it) sticking with it  for the season, or

look to connect more with the potential fan base, market things better, improve the match day experience, have some offers on pricing and try to build the attendance and ultimately the revenue that way.
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: Mallard on August 22, 2021, 01:30:22 PM
Success will bring in the 1500 plus a few floaters.  However if we struggle then it will be die hardship of 600.  Mid table will bring it somewhere in the middle.  As a club, today that’s where we are at.

Loads could be done to promote the Club to the local community and beyond.  To do that you have to employ the right people, who know what they are doing, and not done good old boy who just hangs around the club looking for crumbs from the table.  We have seen enough of them and what they can or cannot bring to the party.
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: kenny r on August 22, 2021, 01:57:31 PM
How about A games for the teams which have a large travelling support and B games for the rest. Price B games 20% lower than A games.

That way Mr C maximises his revenue from the opposition supporters but allows more locals to see their team in action against the poorer supported visitors.

A little research should allow the Club to decide how to classify yhe games.
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: happymondays on August 22, 2021, 02:26:56 PM
Well the word is our next home opponents have a similar or larger support than Southend and its a Bank holiday.
The club have 8 days to sell this game and  improve security and the match day experience.
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 22, 2021, 03:04:58 PM
If you can justify and can afford the money you will go....if you can't you won't.

I don't really buy this "it's only a couple of quid over the odds" argument.

Once the price goes above a person's threshold, that is it...whether it's by a quid or £50, as Dazza's eloquent post demonstrates.

Secondly if you are looking to attract new people/families to the ground, then every pound does matter....again as demonstrated by the Norwich fan who posted on here to say it was too expensive for him to come to Southend.


As I see it there are 2 choices.
The first is maximize the price and hope to rely on the core of 600-1500(as gs puts it) sticking with it  for the season, or

look to connect more with the potential fan base, market things better, improve the match day experience, have some offers on pricing and try to build the attendance and ultimately the revenue that way.

Maybe connecting more with the fan base is work in progress   :dontknow:  :

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12645692
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 22, 2021, 09:01:17 PM
If you can justify and can afford the money you will go....if you can't you won't.

I don't really buy this "it's only a couple of quid over the odds" argument.

Once the price goes above a person's threshold, that is it...whether it's by a quid or £50, as Dazza's eloquent post demonstrates.

Secondly if you are looking to attract new people/families to the ground, then every pound does matter....again as demonstrated by the Norwich fan who posted on here to say it was too expensive for him to come to Southend.


As I see it there are 2 choices.
The first is maximize the price and hope to rely on the core of 600-1500(as gs puts it) sticking with it  for the season, or

look to connect more with the potential fan base, market things better, improve the match day experience, have some offers on pricing and try to build the attendance and ultimately the revenue that way.

Maybe connecting more with the fan base is work in progress   :dontknow:  :

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12645692

Hmm.  So this is Mr Cleeve's only appointment then?  How's that work, i thought he had his fingers in many pies. :cheers:
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: LUFC1992KLFC on August 22, 2021, 10:05:20 PM
I don’t like complaining and I always try to make my posts thought provoking rather than insulting.
However…….
Yesterday was a mess.
No marketing of game (prior)
The stadium looks a **** hole.
Considering only 1500 home fans getting in was shambles.
Lack of bar staff was ridiculous even though staff tried best.
Lack of stewards cost when minor disturbance and loads of police drafted in.
PA system is broken.
No food at 7 sisters end.
Away fans having to climb barriers to avoid crush.
Gate at 7 sisters end only partially opened after game meaning fans had to squeeze out.
Price for single person probably not issue, however you notice the lack of family and kids?
On positive game was good in my opinion.
Now, our next home game is against another big boy. You would of thought the market machine would be in full swing taking on field positives to build up the crowd. Can’t say I seen anything!!!!
Mr cleave needs help!!
Either a competent team of employees or re evaluate and reach out and get a team of appreciated helpers and in turn engage with fans.

Title: Re: Future games
Post by: Walks In The Sunshine on August 22, 2021, 11:29:05 PM
For future games, one of my concerns is segregation - and I mean proper segregation.

As has been said, the Tennyson Road end should be all away fans only,

Saturday, there was an element of colourful characters from another Norfolk club (We can all guess who I mean) and there was a spot of bother just after half time.

We will get some (more) big away followings at The Walks this season and I fear things could get worse if said "colourful characters" continue to come to Lynn - because at the end of the day it will be the club itself which is fined / docked points.

Selling tickets on the day of the game isn't a bad idea to get more fans in, but those fans need to be in the correct area's of the ground - as we move up the leagues, gone are the days of moving to which goal we are attacking
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: Westlandallstar on August 23, 2021, 09:46:07 AM
I don’t like complaining and I always try to make my posts thought provoking rather than insulting.
However…….
Yesterday was a mess.
No marketing of game (prior)
The stadium looks a **** hole.
Considering only 1500 home fans getting in was shambles.
Lack of bar staff was ridiculous even though staff tried best.
Lack of stewards cost when minor disturbance and loads of police drafted in.
PA system is broken.
No food at 7 sisters end.
Away fans having to climb barriers to avoid crush.
Gate at 7 sisters end only partially opened after game meaning fans had to squeeze out.
Price for single person probably not issue, however you notice the lack of family and kids?
On positive game was good in my opinion.
Now, our next home game is against another big boy. You would of thought the market machine would be in full swing taking on field positives to build up the crowd. Can’t say I seen anything!!!!
Mr cleave needs help!!
Either a competent team of employees or re evaluate and reach out and get a team of appreciated helpers and in turn engage with fans.


Can't say I disagree with much of this, one thing I would like to point out so the 'lack of stewards' people don't want to be a steward because of the way they are treated by the club told one thing by one person told another by someone else. Its a real kick in the teeth when outsiders come in and do the same job and are paid £45 to £60 a game when our own stewarding team gets nothing. We were told Saturday any disturbances were being dealt with by the police hence why there so many officers present. The clubs upside down and inside out currently and needs to be fixed fast. A lot of staff are getting fed up with it. Myself included.
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: happymondays on August 23, 2021, 10:17:23 AM
Totally agree...just been reading the Chesterfield forum with the main discussion being the admissions cost and what you get for it which is crammed into a corner with a rubbish view.They are already aware of coaches being charged £40 and the trouble some Southend fans had at the walks.Home and away fans are not stupid and all the issues are not going away.
Title: Re: Future games
Post by: kenny r on August 23, 2021, 01:18:19 PM
When I walked from the Stand to the hospital end toilets about 10 mins before halftime there were probably 20 people with half empty glasses standing behind the wooden screen.  They could well have been the group that caused the trouble.

So had they been served alcohol during the game? I thought that finished many seasons ago.
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