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Title: Financial Waffle
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 30, 2021, 08:42:07 AM
Full page in EDP today.  :sad: :countingmoney:
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Mallard on August 30, 2021, 09:40:19 AM
Just SC giving his reasons for charging what he does for Football at Lynn.  Must be some reason for him to devote a whole column to the subject.   Is he concerned by the numbers buying tickets ?
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Loopy,linnet on August 30, 2021, 09:59:48 AM
Full page in EDP today.  :sad: :countingmoney:
you stick to FC Utd your a traitor to Lynn
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on August 30, 2021, 01:21:39 PM
Full page in EDP today.  :sad: :countingmoney:
you stick to FC Utd your a traitor to Lynn

That's a big word for you Loopy. Can you explain what  traitor means?
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 30, 2021, 01:32:38 PM
Is it possible for somone to post the said article please?
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Mallard on August 30, 2021, 06:07:36 PM
https://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/kings-lynn-owner-cleeve-on-ticket-prices-8279192


Think there are several points in SCís article that are worth discussing

Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: happymondays on August 30, 2021, 07:34:10 PM
S.C programme notes did make me chuckle..what a joker he really is !!!
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Mallard on August 30, 2021, 08:15:47 PM
Happy can you not see where the guy is coming from
In terms of admission costs ?   Yes itís expensive but thatís the cost to fans in Kings Lynn if they want to watch this level of Non League Football.    In fairness itís lucky the club doesnít have to pay rent ( other than peppercorn) for The Walks or it could be even more expensive admission.
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 30, 2021, 08:17:15 PM
Were the program notes the same as the edp article?
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: happymondays on August 30, 2021, 08:28:12 PM
Admission costs need to be lower and have a U.S.P that will appeal to the football fan and occasional football fan in the town.S.C can bang on all he wants but he has totally missed the point and as the crowds slip perhaps he can increase the prices to cover any more lost fans lol.
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on August 30, 2021, 08:30:39 PM
Admission costs need to be lower and have a U.S.P that will appeal to the football fan and occasional football fan in the town.S.C can bang on all he wants but he has totally missed the point and as the crowds slip perhaps he can increase the prices to cover any more lost fans lol.

Personally, I believe that to be a fair assessment.
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Nigel1505 on August 31, 2021, 05:54:29 PM
B and G. Here here.
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: gs50 on August 31, 2021, 06:11:58 PM
SC kept playing last season instead of joining Dover and its the fans who are having to pay for this error. Unless prices come down I will pick and choose games I watch .




Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Mallard on August 31, 2021, 06:20:48 PM
Thatís the problem with sole ownership.  One person decides the fate of many.  Many felt we should have taken the 12 point deduction and not lumbered the club with over half a million debt, but itís done now.
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Bluboy on September 01, 2021, 01:18:29 PM
Thatís the problem with sole ownership.  One person decides the fate of many.  Many felt we should have taken the 12 point deduction and not lumbered the club with over half a million debt, but itís done now.
Thing is would fans still stayed away if we was on -12 points ?? Would we of been able to attract the type of players we have ? I understand some view of admission £ but I cant see how weíve lost 1000 fans say because off that , tbh Iíve been disappointed by our 2 home game attendances  I honestly thought easily 3k each game but what will Wealdstone, Dover be ? Wrong side of 1500 Iíd say !
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on September 01, 2021, 04:00:39 PM
Thatís the problem with sole ownership.  One person decides the fate of many.  Many felt we should have taken the 12 point deduction and not lumbered the club with over half a million debt, but itís done now.
Thing is would fans still stayed away if we was on -12 points ?? Would we of been able to attract the type of players we have ? I understand some view of admission £ but I cant see how weíve lost 1000 fans say because off that , tbh Iíve been disappointed by our 2 home game attendances  I honestly thought easily 3k each game but what will Wealdstone, Dover be ? Wrong side of 1500 Iíd say !

Our next three home games are:

Dagenham and Redbridge

Wealdstone

Barnet

The first game is live on BT Sports, so although its against the League leaders, it will probably have an impact on the gate. I don't believe Dagenham supporters are renowned for travelling to away games in great numbers anyway.

The second game is Wealdstone, who have seen a big increase in average home gates since last season, but have played both Woking and Southend.  I don't believe Wealdstone supporters travel in any great numbers when playing away either  :dontknow:

Barnet game is on a Tuesday night. The dreaded Tuesday night away game, so I really can't see a lot of travelling supporters for that one.

I would expect that Lynn supporters will well out number visiting supporters for all three games, but really wouldn't be surprised if the average gate for the three games is well short of the 1500 Bluboy mentions.

Time will tell.

Time to get the Media machine out there promoting the games as hard as they can!
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: happymondays on September 01, 2021, 04:22:42 PM
If the first 2 home games were a measure against admission cost versus value for money and a great matchday experience then I'm afraid it's an epic fail both for home and away fans.
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: gs50 on September 01, 2021, 05:49:25 PM
Cheaper to get bt sport for month
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Anton on September 02, 2021, 03:21:54 PM
It's simple really! If you're winning fans will pay the cost what ever that cost may be. If you're losing people will stay away and won't pay a high price for a ticket. A dedicated fan fan will pay  regardless of results and ticket prices. Lets face it, how many football clubs make money or break even. Sponsorship is the key in many ways. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: happymondays on September 02, 2021, 08:47:40 PM
First home game against a top side after a year of no live football ...what's the excuse for the poor turnout  then ?
Start of the season so loyal fans would be in abundance wouldn't they !
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Mallard on September 02, 2021, 09:33:27 PM
Maybe a bit like the perfect storm.

Lynn have a large number of older fans.  Who maybe donít feel comfortable in being in a stadium with a lot of people.

People havenít been attending football for maybe 18 months so the Ďhabití is no longer there and have found other things to occupy their Saturday afternoons.

Also I have heard and read of several people who will longer pay the admission fee and no longer thinks itís value for money.

SC can bang on about people needing  to pay a higher price if they want this standard of Football but if the punters arenít buying into his Ďdreamí then he has a problem to get them back on side.

Lynnís big gates come when they are fighting at the top of the table.  Maybe the Chairman thinks that an average team at Step one will only bring in around 1,000 home fans.

Just an opinion.  What do others think
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: mike20382 on September 04, 2021, 01:46:41 PM
Thatís the problem with sole ownership.  One person decides the fate of many.  Many felt we should have taken the 12 point deduction and not lumbered the club with over half a million debt, but itís done now.
Thing is would fans still stayed away if we was on -12 points ?? Would we of been able to attract the type of players we have ? I understand some view of admission £ but I cant see how weíve lost 1000 fans say because off that , tbh Iíve been disappointed by our 2 home game attendances  I honestly thought easily 3k each game but what will Wealdstone, Dover be ? Wrong side of 1500 Iíd say !
I would have to stay away simply because I cannot afford it. Really sad but this is the reality.
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: m a hill on September 04, 2021, 02:53:38 PM
Apply to Runce And Evans if your case is needy they will get you tickets
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on September 04, 2021, 05:04:30 PM
Apply to Runce And Evans if your case is needy they will get you tickets


Is it as easy as that?   :dontknow:

I think its Rounce, not Runce.
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: happymondays on September 04, 2021, 06:13:33 PM
I will have a season ticket then lol
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: m a hill on September 05, 2021, 06:06:45 AM
Spitting hairs on my spelling doesnít become you
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Mallard on September 05, 2021, 07:28:23 AM
Or even Splitting Malc.  Thatís not spelling thatís a different word, Malc    :coffee:
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on September 05, 2021, 09:33:29 AM
Spitting hairs on my spelling doesnít become you

It wasn't meant to be correcting  the spelling, more to point out that the name of the sponsor is Rounce and not Runce. I'm sure that kind of thing is important to the owner Luke, who I have known for 30 years.
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: KES80 on September 05, 2021, 12:43:19 PM
I have heard of spitting feathers, but spitting hairs is a new one on me...sounds like more effort, but less dramatic, hardly worth the effort :laughcry:
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Mallard on September 05, 2021, 03:25:00 PM
You been watching too much Fake Taxi KES  :laughcry:
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Paulos on September 05, 2021, 03:49:43 PM
Maybe one day he will finally realise that running a "business" you need to find other ways of generating income & not being over reliant on the fans, who you are alienating by pricing them out of going.
Those travelling to away games have a look around these full time teams and the amount of advertising you see around the place & in their programmes, because these are established clubs with a commercial side to compliment the gate the receipts. And to the people that are going to argue there's not enough businesses in lynn there clearly is & there's no doubt smaller towns in this league that still manage to do it with probably less available.
£23 to sit in the stand, madness....
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: m a hill on September 05, 2021, 04:17:26 PM
At least I have made a few off you smile I will have to keep it up now I have started something
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: kenny r on September 05, 2021, 04:22:27 PM
It's no wonder there are so many empty advertising spaces opposite the Stand.  £500 one year....asking for  £1500 the next!

That is absolute madness and not surprisingly most people said NOOOOO.

 I wager the majority of advertisers would have said yes to £750   :banghead;
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Mallard on September 05, 2021, 04:53:55 PM
If SC has got it all wrong in terms of pricing then he may well have to hold his hands up and admit to having got it wrong and adjust things accordingly.

I seem to recall an advert being out there for a new CM, maybe two months back, yet seemingly no appointment.    Which club at this level can afford to operate without one ?

Bizarre
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on September 05, 2021, 06:07:16 PM
The Club is owned by a professional money maker. Why waste money on another.? :countingmoney:
Title: Re: Financial Waffle
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on September 05, 2021, 07:49:28 PM
It's no wonder there are so many empty advertising spaces opposite the Stand.  £500 one year....asking for  £1500 the next!

That is absolute madness and not surprisingly most people said NOOOOO.

 I wager the majority of advertisers would have said yes to £750   :banghead;

Even that is an absolute crazy 50% increase Ken. When businesses have had an atrocious 18 months because of covid and lockdowns like KLTFC have had. How many of those companies have had a half a million pound bail out?
Don't forget i also know how much the actual board costs along with the printing so even contemplating asking for £1500 is disgraceful.
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