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Title: Wealdstone
Post by: KES80 on September 25, 2021, 05:15:29 PM
That is a result that should send tremors thro the Club.

Losing at home to a rel weak team who were reduced to 10 for the second half. As they put it , "a vital win" for them and a real blow to Lynn's chances. Matches against beatable sides don't come up that often in this league....when they come up, you have to pounce on them.

Can't help feeling a new forward is required urgently, because with a young side confidence can quickly fall away
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: dillydilly on September 25, 2021, 05:30:51 PM
Fully agree, KES.  Bleak prospects, Iím afraid.  Goal scorer needed is the one point that unites us all.  I feel a bit sorry for IC and SC, because there is a lot of luck in football, and they donít have total control of it.  On the plus side, the chances are coming, and we are better, certainly than last season, and itís is possible that a regular scorer could show we are still, just, on an upward path.  Iím not ramming my solution down any throats, but I would certainly like to see Marriott, or perhaps Joe Taylor receiving the ball in or near the opponentís penalty boxÖ.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Mallard on September 25, 2021, 05:31:58 PM
IC said he wanted to be competitive against all teams.  Somehow we need to move on to the next stage which has to be finding the back of net.  Hopefully now we have a Commercial Director onboard that will trigger an increase in revenue to bring in someone who can find the back of the net.

The biggest worry about today ( defeat apart) is just 885 fans turning out.  This must be a massive concern to SC.   Canít see this figure improving unless we start getting results. 
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: KES80 on September 25, 2021, 05:39:28 PM
I agree Dilly....throw Joe Taylor in..... someone who is used to scoring......as said before think Marriott is a ship that has sailed...... there must be another forward around,be it Lowestoft,Kettering etc who is a regular scorer at that level who would love a chance at NL level... let's get them in and give them a go, before the situation becomes irretreivable........things can fall away quickly in this league..next up Altrincham and Maidenhead....at least 2 points required......once the little run of easier games goes, you're back to the games where you just hope to be competitive and are unlikely to get much. These games against the Wealdstone's and Weymouth s are so pivotal.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: KES80 on September 25, 2021, 05:49:47 PM
The big concern must be that neither of the long contact forward signings are really making much of an impact in terms of what they are ultimately.paid for ie goals.

This league is brutal. Lynn have improved hugely in goal and across the back line , but if they can't score, they will go down. All the other sides in Lynn's mini league had a free hit.last season too....and they have all improved too.


I am really disappointed and surprised that Lynn couldn't find a way past 10 man Wealdstone today.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on September 25, 2021, 05:52:58 PM
IC said he wanted to be competitive against all teams.  Somehow we need to move on to the next stage which has to be finding the back of net.  Hopefully now we have a Commercial Director onboard that will trigger an increase in revenue to bring in someone who can find the back of the net.



I've only just been told about this. Nice to see it happening at last. Is the new guy full time employed by us or just a Consultant?


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....throw Joe Taylor in..... someone who is used to scoring......

That's an option that really needs trying soon.

Fully agree, KES.  Bleak prospects, Iím afraid.  Goal scorer needed is the one point that unites us all.  I feel a bit sorry for IC and SC, because there is a lot of luck in football, and they donít have total control of it. 

I fear we have used up our share of luck in the previous two seasons.






The biggest worry about today ( defeat apart) is just 885 fans turning out.  This must be a massive concern to SC.   Canít see this figure improving unless we start getting results.


Yes, thats no good for a NL gate, but I think this was always likely to happen. We've been here before. Win and they will come. Lose and they won't, irrespective of what level the Club is at. If we've got all the right people in the right places, from top to bottom, there's plenty of time to turn it around. Lets see what happens in the week coming.


Marriott scored in Barnet's 3-1 win today.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: happymondays on September 25, 2021, 06:00:58 PM
The talk in the town is the admission cost and that's it simple as that .Real football fans know the time of day and have lots of connections with other clubs and fans.I was chatting to a QPR season ticket holder in the week and he actually laughed when I told him our pricing structure.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Ytsejam on September 25, 2021, 06:03:26 PM
Sadly this season is going exactly as I predicted and feared! To think that some in here and at the club were "expecting" a mid table finish at worse!, is mind boggling! Scoring goals this season, just like last season, is proving to be the Achilles heel but you don't get efficient and clinical strikers at this level without having to splash some reasonable dosh and even then, still get lucky.
Crowds (which already are nowhere near enough to keep the club going this season) will continue to plummet and sadly I think there is a chance the club may not even survive until the end of the season and if it does, its going to be in a horrendous financial state :(
Sad times and real worries.

Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: gs50 on September 25, 2021, 06:09:28 PM
Don't think we have progressed from our par time days in fact I think we're better. We are totally lacking up front and need sorting quick even if it means shipping out players. Where was sense in playing from back when they parked all players along penalty area. Clueless is only word to describe today.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Coastal linnet on September 25, 2021, 06:26:03 PM
Todays highlights.
The sausage and chips.
Aaron Jones return from.injury
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: westlynnmike on September 25, 2021, 06:37:27 PM
At the risk of repeating myself - When are we going to have a player on the far side to collect the long ball, overhit ball, rebound out from the box etc. etc.  :dontknow:

We have a good 1/2 a dozen such happenings today and not one collected and recycled back into the attack.

We spent a lot of time building from the back, going across the pitch then back a few yards. Time wasted and the Wealdstone defence had time to reorganise the depth of their defence.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on September 25, 2021, 08:41:51 PM
The talk in the town is the admission cost and that's it simple as that .Real football fans know the time of day and have lots of connections with other clubs and fans.I was chatting to a QPR season ticket holder in the week and he actually laughed when I told him our pricing structure.
I'm sure that the majority of people think the admission price is too high, but I really don't think it is as simple as that. Major factor maybe, but not the only issue.

For example, I don't think the admission price would effect the lack of sponsorship and such things as low commercial activity.

Some Supporters have spoken about the admission price on other social media platforms and have said they won't attend games. Although I think its unlikely, let's see if the Club  take the supporters opinion on board. If they don't, I hope they don't just ignore their comments.

Commercially, the Club have now appointed a person with experience to head things up, so there could be a big improvement seen very quickly. More money in for the Club, more money for IC to get the right person in to start putting the ball in the back of the net.

People have previously said that off field activity has not kept up with on field progression in recent seasons. I don't think many will disagree with that. An effort to rectify this now appears to be happening, and the Club looks as if its at least trying to get  the right people into the right jobs, and not  just appoint people who are just hanging around.

A bit of a change going on at the moment. Off field now starting to go in the right direction, but on field it seems to be going the wrong way, for now at least.

If he's given what he needs, IC is the man to sort the latter out.

 :scarf:
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on September 25, 2021, 08:50:15 PM
Todays highlights.
The sausage and chips.

An important highlight!   :cheers:
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: gs50 on September 25, 2021, 09:10:01 PM
Who is the commercial appointment
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Realist on September 25, 2021, 09:25:27 PM
If the attendance does not increase as the level of the game climbs, then it is a sure indicator that the club has gone beyond the level it should be. Histon , Rushdon etc etc ...The public either do not like the price or there just is not the interest, until a play off final or cup run is on offer. Two levels to high....
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Dazzarugby65 on September 25, 2021, 10:23:14 PM
Todays highlights.
The sausage and chips.

An important highlight!   :cheers:

Yes,but it was bought from the crossings chip shop  :red card:
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on September 25, 2021, 10:32:25 PM
Todays highlights.
The sausage and chips.

An important highlight!   :cheers:

Yes,but it was bought from the crossings chip shop  :red card:
Lol. Obviously a community chip shop!   :laughcry:
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Walks In The Sunshine on September 25, 2021, 11:56:18 PM
A trend is developing here - if you don't take your chances while you are on top, it will bite you in the a**e

Same against Dagenham, same today

Played some good stuff today, but all the possession in the world doesn't count for much if you don't convert the chances.

Junior Morias - just a poor mans Leon Mettam for me - he averages one goal in five appearances throughout his career, so he's due one soon (hopefully!!).......I'd love nothing more than to be wrong about him and for him to go on a goalscoring run and end up with 20+ goals this season - but can anyone se it happening??
Twice today (one offside) he failed to even hit the target from six yards out, he was moaning at his team mates too, I'm really not convinced with him

The crowd - 885 isn't great, but what was even worse was hearing Wealdstone's support and we didn't even muster one song all match - have the ultra's had enough?? They are our most vocal section of support, but didn't see any of them there today

Really frustrating today as Wealdstone were ****e.......and ****e with only ten men too, so we really needed a result
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Bornandbred on September 26, 2021, 07:57:45 AM
Strikers=goals=fans=£££😀⚽
HAPPY DAYS!!
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Bluboy on September 26, 2021, 09:05:39 AM
I do like to think Iím a half glass full and pro everything the club do Ö but today at the game was thinking how flat the club has become .. awful crowd , no atmosphere, and I must say though weíre full time some off those players seemed non interested , no urgency, lack off belief.. defence looks comfortable (or better)  but our forward line are huffing puffing goldy gets criticised but Iím yet to see what the lad from Wycombe bring to the side , and when junior is deep weíve nothing up front . Personally Iím no IC but why not bring gyasi on instead of sundire I think he would of caused more problems and more direct . Really miss king  Ö feel our spine of the team has left and no one there to rally them Ö
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Mallard on September 26, 2021, 09:33:27 AM
In our NLN ( and lower days) we had a predominately locally based squad.  Fans could relate with the Jarvís, Gashís etc it all felt right.   Now we are at step one then players came in from here there and everywhere.  No link up or connection with the fans.   Maybe we need to give the transition a bit longer to see if there will be a bond.

I thought yesterday was our first Ďmust winí game of the season.  Sadly we came up short.  Now the next two look vital.  We are already in the relegation places so that could become a theme for the season.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Coastal linnet on September 26, 2021, 10:00:18 AM
Once Lynn went behind there didn't seem to be anyone on the pitch to gee the rest of the team up. Captain Clunan was vocal, but with the ref not the rest of the te
am.  The players are now full time ( why?) There seemed to be a greater commitment when the team were part time ( e.g. MG putting in a decent weeks work as a tree surgeon travelling to training/ matches twice a week)  what does a day look like for a silly time National League footballer? How long does a training session last each day. There's only so much analysing/ scrutinising that can be done?
I thought the enthusiasm/ energy/ pride in wearing the shirt was evident with Aaron Jones when he came  on.
 
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: gs50 on September 26, 2021, 10:01:18 AM
At the moment think there is no atmosphere in the stadium .Looking from the grandstand didn't see a single bannersurrely this group of supporters haven't  stopped coming.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Ytsejam on September 26, 2021, 10:59:58 AM
If the attendance does not increase as the level of the game climbs, then it is a sure indicator that the club has gone beyond the level it should be. Histon , Rushdon etc etc ...The public either do not like the price or there just is not the interest, until a play off final or cup run is on offer. Two levels to high....

I fear you are spot on. At this level Lynn are inevitably going to struggle ON the pitch to keep their heads above water, full time or not, and the facts are that at these admission prices, unless the team is winning, a lot of people who have come for years on and off, are not going to turn up.
I canít see the current situation being sustainable for long but I just hope we donít fall down as far as the two clubs you mentioned did, when sadly, things go ďbangĒ!
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Mallard on September 26, 2021, 12:33:28 PM
It would seem the fans are not of the same mind as the Chairman in wanting ( supporting) Step one football.   

Seems like itís more exciting to a middle size fish in a medium size pond.  Than being a tiddler in a huge one.

Maybe we should have taken the 12 point deduction and been 500k better off.  This can only sit at one persons door
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: gs50 on September 26, 2021, 01:16:09 PM
Yes don't really understand this one minute we were going to stop playing and i think it took everyone by surprise with change of direction including the manager.Must have been a reason perhaps only Chairman will know.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Mallard on September 26, 2021, 01:53:58 PM
Red or black GS.  That seemed to be the reason.  If we get relegated this season with a 500k plus debt.  Then we will know if the Ďgambleí came off.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Realist on September 26, 2021, 02:41:21 PM
If the attendance does not increase as the level of the game climbs, then it is a sure indicator that the club has gone beyond the level it should be. Histon , Rushdon etc etc ...The public either do not like the price or there just is not the interest, until a play off final or cup run is on offer. Two levels to high....

I fear you are spot on. At this level Lynn are inevitably going to struggle ON the pitch to keep their heads above water, full time or not, and the facts are that at these admission prices, unless the team is winning, a lot of people who have come for years on and off, are not going to turn up.
I canít see the current situation being sustainable for long but I just hope we donít fall down as far as the two clubs you mentioned did, when sadly, things go ďbangĒ!
The Key word you added to my post, in reply is sustainable...with these attendance without a sustained sponsor, then yes Bang is the result.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: KES80 on September 26, 2021, 06:24:32 PM
https://www.wealdstone-fc.com/post/match-report-kings-lynn-0-1-wealdstone

Thought you might like to read W's report on the game...... highlights it pretty well  I feel.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on September 26, 2021, 07:33:08 PM
https://www.wealdstone-fc.com/post/match-report-kings-lynn-0-1-wealdstone

Thought you might like to read W's report on the game...... highlights it pretty well  I feel.

Estimating only around 700 Lynn supporters there!  :rain:
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Mallard on September 26, 2021, 07:51:03 PM
Thatís back to the UCL days under Busterís ownership at step 5. That 700 would include season ticket holders as well
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on September 26, 2021, 08:17:09 PM
Thatís back to the UCL days under Busterís ownership at step 5.

I'm not paying £7 to watch UCL football.  :laughcry:
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Grissles Oleary on September 26, 2021, 08:26:51 PM
Thatís back to the UCL days under Busterís ownership at step 5.

I'm not paying £7 to watch UCL football.  :laughcry:


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Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Walks In The Sunshine on September 26, 2021, 10:41:57 PM
Fans could relate with the Jarvís, Gashís etc it all felt right.   Now we are at step one then players came in from here there and everywhere.  No link up or connection with the fans.   Maybe we need to give the transition a bit longer to see if there will be a bond.

These are exactly the thoughts I'm thinking.

I'm not saying the current crop are a bunch of mercenaries, but there doesn't seem to be many who will "fight for the shirt"

Aaron Jones, when he came on yesterday acknowledged the crowd immediately and played with passion - and I didn't see that from any of the others.

I'm not saying the players play to lose, but I do question the effort to win??

As Mallard says, we loved players like Gash, Jarvis, McCauley, Fryatt, Hendo, Street - even Lee Stevenson & Dan Quigley because we felt they loved playing for the club and would always give their all.
.
The current crop may gel, but they have to understand they are in for a scrap this season.

I hope they have the desire for it
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Grissles Oleary on September 26, 2021, 11:04:34 PM
Fans could relate with the Jarvís, Gashís etc it all felt right.   Now we are at step one then players came in from here there and everywhere.  No link up or connection with the fans.   Maybe we need to give the transition a bit longer to see if there will be a bond.

These are exactly the thoughts I'm thinking.

I'm not saying the current crop are a bunch of mercenaries, but there doesn't seem to be many who will "fight for the shirt"

Aaron Jones, when he came on yesterday acknowledged the crowd immediately and played with passion - and I didn't see that from any of the others.

I'm not saying the players play to lose, but I do question the effort to win??

As Mallard says, we loved players like Gash, Jarvis, McCauley, Fryatt, Hendo, Street - even Lee Stevenson & Dan Quigley because we felt they loved playing for the club and would always give their all.
.
The current crop may gel, but they have to understand they are in for a scrap this season.

I hope they have the desire for it

Always nice to have a beer with Mr Quigley,that guy managed to turn extreme hate into admiration. :cheers:
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: rod on September 27, 2021, 10:40:08 AM
Fans could relate with the Jarvís, Gashís etc it all felt right.   Now we are at step one then players came in from here there and everywhere.  No link up or connection with the fans.   Maybe we need to give the transition a bit longer to see if there will be a bond.

These are exactly the thoughts I'm thinking.

I'm not saying the current crop are a bunch of mercenaries, but there doesn't seem to be many who will "fight for the shirt"

Aaron Jones, when he came on yesterday acknowledged the crowd immediately and played with passion - and I didn't see that from any of the others.

I'm not saying the players play to lose, but I do question the effort to win??

As Mallard says, we loved players like Gash, Jarvis, McCauley, Fryatt, Hendo, Street - even Lee Stevenson & Dan Quigley because we felt they loved playing for the club and would always give their all.
.
The current crop may gel, but they have to understand they are in for a scrap this season.

I hope they have the desire for it

Always nice to have a beer with Mr Quigley,that guy managed to turn extreme hate into admiration. :cheers:

Where is he now??

Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Blueboy on September 27, 2021, 01:40:39 PM
At work I should imagine!!!
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on September 27, 2021, 07:43:19 PM
AFC Leamington i believe.
Now 31 years old.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on September 27, 2021, 07:49:49 PM
AFC Leamington i believe.
Now 31 years old.

That was also the most up to date information I could find as well.
Title: Re: Wealdstone
Post by: Linnet on September 27, 2021, 08:08:52 PM
Has moved on it seems

From 2020

https://sortitoutsi.net/football-manager-2020/person/90044119/dan-quigley


Also  this season
https://fulltime.thefa.com/displayTeam.html?divisionseason=634137876&teamID=521267205#tab-2
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