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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: TonyM on November 05, 2021, 01:43:43 PM
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So, aside from the off-field issues around tomorrow, what are we looking for on the pitch?
IC has said he has a fully fit squad apart from Tyler Denton, not sure if this means Bird is back in contention with no follow up question raised at the press conference. He is one of the players being put forward for Football Focus so maybe that will be his contribution tomorrow but would be good to see his return to the starting XI. I would also hope this means Millwall have allowed Davis to be part of the team tomorrow. Given Taylor is cup tied I would go with the Omotayo/Morias combination up front to give them more minutes together but whether they can become an effective combination is probably still open to debate. Lets just hope for a good performance and what looks to be a sizable crowd will have something to get behind
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I am hopeful that Lynn will still be in the hat at the end of play. With a big crowd behind them, I think it will be a very creditable 2-2 draw.
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Sounded like a damn good effort. I think, and hope, the player standard starting to improve. Have faith SC and IC, still need a goalscorer(s), but we can still get up this league.
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Good second half and an unfortunate deflection resulting in their goal. Lynn players can all hold their heads high, great effort. We can all take encouragement from today's performance.
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Same old story.
Poor first half, go a goal down, the opposition make it hard for us.
Can't we start playing from the kick off?
Or maybe start games at 4o'clock!🙄
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Decent crowd today but we are now replaying the same game over and over again...groundhog day
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Once again, close but no cigar....such a shame.
It feels as if every home match has ended 0-1.
Similar pattern again today as the opener against Southend (albeit against better opposition)
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The biggest worry for all and sundry is not only are we not scoring goals in real terms we are creating sod all. Our approach play is all very pretty but it’s all pointless without some kind of end result.
Even over at Norwich they have adjusted away from playing ‘Farkeball’. Maybe it’s time for ‘Cullyball’ to be changed.
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What was the attendance today ?
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Must have been 2500+
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What was the attendance today ?
Decent, so we don’t need to know.
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What was the attendance today ?
Maybe they haven't decided yet. :dontknow:
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Farke sacked by Norwich. Poor from Norwich that. Results driven business
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Farke sacked by Norwich. Poor from Norwich that. Results driven business
Sometimes.
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Not at Lynn, it seems, Mallard
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What was the attendance today ?
Maybe they haven't decided yet. :dontknow:
Remember as it's FA Cup, Walsall get half the gate receipts
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Lynn find themselves in a similar position to Norwich but SC would really pee the fans off if he sacked IC
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He'd pee himself off! Would be an admission of guilt. :dontknow:
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What was the attendance today ?
Maybe they haven't decided yet. :dontknow:
Remember as it's FA Cup, Walsall get half the gate receipts
After any fines that come in due to the crowd trouble probably just about break even then!
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I've been saying since the start of the season the gap between opposing fans is too small.Its almost comical and very nearly kicked off big time yesterday.
Sort it before Grimsby arrive as there will be no gap after 5 minutes lol.
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If the male Lynn "fan" that punched a punched a female security staff member in the face, knocking her to the ground and cutting her badly just under the eye, is reading this (can read at all), I hope you feel very proud of yourself. As I do the other one, that punched a male security staff member. The only clever thought you had all day, was to leg it afterwards.
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Never mind Grimsby, what about Wrexham next week, expect at least 1500 from Wales. They average over 4000 away from home.
You need at least a 30% increase in space. Also they will expect some tickets for seats.
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Very true ...all the big games are major flashpoints
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These games need to be made all ticket and away supporters numbers limited.
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Just segregated correctly ...All of the Tennyson end and half of the North stand with a bigger neutral zone.Comfortably accomadate 1500 away fans safely and still retain a good atmosphere.
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Just segregated correctly ...All of the Tennyson end and half of the North stand with a bigger neutral zone.Comfortably accomadate 1500 away fans safely and still retain a good atmosphere.
That's far too sensible.
It's been suggested many times that teams with a big traveling support, should have the whole Tennyson end.
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What was the attendance today ?
Maybe they haven't decided yet. :dontknow:
Remember as it's FA Cup, Walsall get half the gate receipts
After any fines that come in due to the crowd trouble probably just about break even then!
https://www.lynnnews.co.uk/sport/crowd-disorder-at-linnets-fa-cup-tie-9224517/
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What was the attendance today ?
Apparently, “around 2000”.
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If the male Lynn "fan" that punched a punched a female security staff member in the face, knocking her to the ground and cutting her badly just under the eye, is reading this (can read at all), I hope you feel very proud of yourself. As I do the other one, that punched a male security staff member. The only clever thought you had all day, was to leg it afterwards.
Saw those two.
All match they were looking for aggravation.
They were p*ssed as farts as were their counterparts.
It's great boosting the attendance, but matches like Saturday always attract a few "savoury" characters who you've never seen before (and often never see again) at The Walks
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If the male Lynn "fan" that punched a punched a female security staff member in the face, knocking her to the ground and cutting her badly just under the eye, is reading this (can read at all), I hope you feel very proud of yourself. As I do the other one, that punched a male security staff member. The only clever thought you had all day, was to leg it afterwards.
Saw those two.
All match they were looking for aggravation.
They were p*ssed as farts as were their counterparts.
It's great boosting the attendance, but matches like Saturday always attract a few "savoury" characters who you've never seen before (and often never see again) at The Walks
Completely right, however, I would add, there were many regular offenders involved on Saturday also. Some of an age, whereby it's apparent that no improvement will ever be forthcoming. And over the past few seasons, there also seems to be a willing number that will replace those that we'll "never see again". A sad sign of the times or a King's Lynn problem? We are certainly gaining a reputation throughout the league and beyond that we really don't want.
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They need to be found and banning for life especially the one that hit the lady steward
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A disappointing crowd when maybe 1,000 more might have been reasonably expected to attend?
Why?
Some.elderly supporters still probably fear being in such close proximity with others over a couple of hours or so but perhaps the risk of getting caught up in hooligan activity at 'big games' is also a factor?
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A disappointing crowd when maybe 1,000 more might have been reasonably expected to attend?
Why?
Some elderly supporters still probably fear being in such close proximity with others over a couple of hours or so but perhaps the risk of getting caught up in hooligan activity at 'big games' is also a factor?
Fully agree Rod.
My comment from Friday.
Also, although I'm sure that seeing a League team at the Walks is an obvious attraction to many, the bigger crowds and the "hassle factor" that can bring with it also makes it less appealing to others.
I think the gate will be around the 3k though.
If the true figure was only around 2000, as has been suggested, that's a very disappointing figure! :dontknow:
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There was 2500 + Saturday definitely
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I am a season ticket holder who chose not to attend on Saturday.
Reasons that deterred me( in no other particular order)
Price of the ticket.
The knowledge that the salient action would be on BBC and watching " Final Score" could follow some of the other matches.
Attempted to buy ticket at the last home fixture but wasn't able to.
The pre match press conference particularly the contribution from IC.
The fact that many think Covid is over and the use of face coverings in enclosed spaces( e.g. the loos would be non existent).
Some good results on Saturday. Buxton beating York away with Nathan Fox and Theo Richardson in the team. Also St Albans beating Forest Green.
(4,000 home fans!),lots of families at the game and most importantly
No apparent inappropriate behaviour.
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Club Twitter Post
Your Official Attendance for yesterday’s
@EmiratesFACup
game is 1934 (698
@WFCOfficial
Don't shoot the messenger.
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https://fanbanter.co.uk/video-kings-lynn-fan-punches-steward-during-fa-cup-tie-against-walsall/?fbclid=IwAR3EIga_FU-5-fYjGEgsfn7LCzv1hDsuUJ4UAdTay-4fABJGXShTDlFCl9M
WTF? :dontknow:
:banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
We've previously seen and heard about the abuse these Stewards receive, week in and week out.
They do this job for free!
As with most things, I have my doubts that anything is likely to be done about it until it effects finances.
With an even bigger crowd expected next week, if I was the Chief Steward I would seriously consider withdrawing my teams services for the time being. Let the Club get Professionals in.
Are the Stewards consulted by the H & S guy with regards to the segregation of fans? I've not heard one supporters say that they think the segregation is adequate, but numerous ones that say it is woefully inadequate. If the Stewards are not consulted, this needs to be addressed straight away. They are the ones on the front line and are the ones that have to put up with this aggressive behavior. They should know what works and what doesn't.
If the Stewards have previously been consulted, and were happy with what has been put in place, then what was agreed with regards to segregation did not appear to work.
The Stadium needs to be a safe place to visit, for supporters and Staff/Volunteers.
Who wants to go to a football match and get a punch in the face? :dontknow:
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Volunteers shouldn’t be put on the frontline like this. The segregation is inadequate, the neutral area should be widened and staffed by professional security, no disrespect to our stewards, and a couple of 4 legged Police officers with 2 legged as back up. Otherwise the club is heading for a nasty reputation and a points reduction we certainly don’t want
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Volunteers shouldn’t be put on the frontline like this. The segregation is inadequate, the neutral area should be widened and staffed by professional security.
Yes, that's the very least that needs doing.
I have to ask what the hell the H & S guy is thinking about allowing Volunteer Stewards into such a dangerous "neutral area" in the first place. Such an obvious flash point!
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Just hope to God someone at the club is taking all this on board & working on this before there's more flashbacks this weekend, get a huge fence up that can't be climbed over or something, why is it so hard to sort really!? :dontknow:
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Volunteers shouldn’t be put on the frontline like this. The segregation is inadequate, the neutral area should be widened and staffed by professional security.
Yes, that's the very least that needs doing.
I have to ask what the hell the H & S guy is thinking about allowing Volunteer Stewards into such a dangerous "neutral area" in the first place. Such an obvious flash point!
Agree , but we’ve had other teams with bigger followings and no trouble as those morons who attended Saturday was elsewhere , defiantly a big neutral zone needed . Also I heard it isn’t as easy to give ( or is but comes at a cost ) the whole tenny end and half of the other as it’ll need other safety complications and more toilets and food outlets , turnstiles etc …. So back to cheaper option widen neutral zone .
Sad as all this does regarding Saturday is get us all tarred with the same brush and can make away days for us intimidating , spoke to a lot of Walsall and was all a good friendly bunch as is 99% of us :scarf:
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Just hope to God someone at the club is taking all this on board & working on this before there's more flashbacks this weekend, get a huge fence up that can't be climbed over or something, why is it so hard to sort really!? :dontknow:
I say widen the zone , away fans already have a poor view
Makes me laugh as they’re all billy big bolx behind a fence and yet can’t jump a 3 ft wall to have a proper go just hope there’s no aggro Saturday not a name to be tarnished with
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Perhaps you need to ask the said H&S man how much £££ he takes out of the club, I know he personally puts in many hours a week planning for each match and attending SAG meetings to ensure the club can have anyone in. You all come and go for 3 hours a fixture and have your opinions not knowing the full facts of what goes on behind the scenes. The volunteer stewards at kings Lynn are a fantastic team and work extremely hard for the fans and the club itself. It would be great when the day comes that the club can function with them but at the moment that’s not possible due to the qualifications required and covid slowing up the process.
The segregation line initially was going to go floor to ceiling but the SAG put a stop to this as it would affect people’s view and it’s not allowed with the sight line regulations….. daft I know.
Mr Cleeve does take this matter seriously and plans are being looked at to remodel what is currently in situ.
But if you keyboard warriors think you can do it better drop Jamie Farr a line and I’m sure he’ll let you have the reins for a fixture….. which by the way isn’t just 12 till 19:00 on a Saturday
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Walsall at home to Swindon in the 2nd Round.
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Perhaps you need to ask the said H&S man how much £££ he takes out of the club, I know he personally puts in many hours a week planning for each match and attending SAG meetings to ensure the club can have anyone in.
Completely irrelevant to the point being made. Nobody has said that he doesn't work hard at it.
It does not matter if he earns zero or 100k, spends 10 minutes or 10 days on it. If that role is taken on (his choice, nobody forces him to do it), then it's got to be done correctly. Legally and morally. Obviously what was in place was not sufficient or the incident would not have happened.
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Thanks for the clarification, Insidelinnet but that could have come from the Club months ago.
Why does the Club not engage with the fans on matters like this and get them onside. :scarf:
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Yeah yet again someone at the club not being able to take constructive criticism. I know in my job if I was in charge of doing something & it didn't quite work out I'd come under fire from a lot of people but would accept it as I had ultimately failed at what I'd set out to achieve & be the bigger man & hold my hands up. It was never said (I don't think) that the job must be difficult or questioned anyone's work ethic, however after 9 home games the problem still exists & nothing seems to have changed & from a customer point of view it's a very big worry with such a potential large away following on Saturday expected, that the sane problem might occur again & will subsequently put people off attending. Maybe if the club had said they are looking at ways to put this right it would put people's minds at ease but again we get nothing and we don't see any changes week after week that is why it's being challenged.
There's 22 clubs in this league who must have the same problem I'd be looking at what others do for ideas on how to rectify what could be a very serious problem one day if this weekends events weren't bad enough.
But then we only pay the biggest ticket prices in the league i guess with that though we're not allowed to voice any concerns we have again we're just being keyboard warriors :coffee:
I was sure this was a "fans discussion forum" :dontknow:
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Surely Jamie Farr can see what everyone else can see. There were issues with the set up from the York City games of two years ago.
Surely it is up to Jamie to be proactive rather than reactive. Anyone can see it’s an accident waiting to happen.
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Crowd trouble is not a new problem for gods sake it's been happening on a large scale across the country since the 70s.The problems at Lynn have been obvious for a long time and should have been sorted 2 years ago as we climbed up the football ladder.
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Surely Jamie Farr can see what everyone else can see. There were issues with the set up from the York City games of two years ago.
Surely it is up to Jamie to be proactive rather than reactive. Anyone can see it’s an accident waiting to happen.
I’m sure Jamie Farr can see that there were issues and I believe he even took a couple of hits himself at the weekend. From what’s been posted and how the club seems to work at the minute I would say his hands are somewhat tied… by both the SAG meeting committee and by the chairman.
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Hard to disagree with much of that CurlyDaisy.
If someone gets into the ground on a U16 ticket there is naming and shaming. This incident, once again, has gone without comment on a certain Twitter account. :dontknow:
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Hard to disagree with much of that CurlyDaisy.
If someone gets into the ground on a U16 ticket there is naming and shaming. This incident, once again, has gone without comment on a certain Twitter account. :dontknow:
Well no comment from SC is probably a good indication that it’s being taken seriously by police (hopefully anyway). That or he genuinely isn’t worried as it’s not losing him any money.
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But there's nothing from that area of a general nature, that wouldn't compromise any investigation.
What is planned? A comment as to how it won't be tolerated. Anything.
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One of the other major problems is that in the stand it is impossible to understand anything the announcer is saying. It is either his diction or the equipment.
God forbid if there was ever a major problem it could be a real issue
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Surely Jamie Farr can see what everyone else can see. There were issues with the set up from the York City games of two years ago.
Surely it is up to Jamie to be proactive rather than reactive. Anyone can see it’s an accident waiting to happen.
I’m sure Jamie Farr can see that there were issues and I believe he even took a couple of hits himself at the weekend. From what’s been posted and how the club seems to work at the minute I would say his hands are somewhat tied… by both the SAG meeting committee and by the chairman.
Surely in his position if he is being hamstrung by others in his attempts to get things to the required standard then he is compromising himself and his reputation.
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One of the other major problems is that in the stand it is impossible to understand anything the announcer is saying. It is either his diction or the equipment.
God forbid if there was ever a major problem it could be a real issue
Agreed
Its terrible even at close range
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Maybe the mystery 500+ missing from the gate Saturday could buy a new tannoy system 🤔
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Maybe the mystery 500+ missing from the gate Saturday could buy a new tannoy system 🤔
Missing 500? Not sure where you were watching from but 2000 looked a realistic figure - lots in the Walsall area (but not as many as some NL visitors) but it wasn't anywhere near as packed in the main stand as we have seen at 'big' games, even in the second half when it was raining.
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I was sitting in the stand and 1900...no chance.There was officially just under 700 away .So 1300 in the rest of the ground ??
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EFL club turns up for an FA Cup game and it doesn’t attract 2,000 fans.
Food for thought.
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EFL club turns up for an FA Cup game and it doesn’t attract 2,000 fans.
Food for thought.
Very much so. Even if it was 2,500, that's still a light gate for a visiting league club and the excitement of the FA Cup.
People appear not to have bought into the dream in the numbers required.
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Stockport had an away following of 5500 at Bolton Sunday...now that's support
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True, but they are only 20 miles apart :-)
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https://www.lynnnews.co.uk/news/youth-17-charged-over-crowd-trouble-at-kings-lynn-town-fa-9224856/
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Agree with tonym
Behind both goals was fairly empty and pictures of the main stand I’ve seen again still many seats available, we got 2500 v Boston and you can see the diff all around .
Shame though as for a efl side to only attract 2000 is really disappointing do agree with what’s said about selling it to the people off lynn and surrounding villages especially with city playing away , could we off done more on radio Norfolk and correcti me if wrong I suppose no klfm /local stations to give air time to the build up , could of got more schools involved etc tickets for pupil and parent … like mallard says food for thought or has the fa cup lost its appeal even at this level .
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So for the York game there was double the amount in the ground according to official figures...so that's 2000 fans missing in action at the moment.
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So for the York game there was double the amount in the ground according to official figures...so that's 2000 fans missing in action at the moment.
My frustrations to … blame COVID / admission I still can see it would keep 2000 away
I honestly thought this season we would of been averaging 2500 I thought we’d all buy into the National league and able to be there pitch side … tbh I’ve been a s/t for years now and I find we a lynn have the hardcore following of 1000 or so .wonder if city went down we may have a few who fancy National league for a season
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Imo people will back a winning side if we had been winning then the fans would have turned out but we are not winning
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The ground is to small to escape from the foul mouthed aggressive groups that gather at most games.
It is hardly a family day out , even for the classic father and son it is grim. Then the elders wanting to watch a football match in stable condition become vulnerable and concerned, Toxic..sort them out now...
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Nail struck firmly on the head there Malc. However other clubs work on a fan involvement where the punters feel very much part of the club. Plus Clubs offer a full match day experience.
After all you have your rough seasons as well as your good. SC has a lot to put right at the Club. I’m sure he has identified at lot of the issues. Just seems a massive ask for one person. Still that’s the boat he has decided to row.
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Other clubs at this level have far bigger terraces, so separation of fans is much easier. Away fans also get a much better view than they do at our ground. Our ground development over many decades has been very poor, so putting it right now that we are at a level that needs it, is very difficult. We don’t have a real terrace at either end, so supporters, in winter, are likely to get a cold wet experience, with a very poor view. Aren’t there any local firms that could just at least give us proper steps ? When we allowed a very decent terrace at the Hospital End to disintegrate, we caused opposing supporters having to stand closer to each other, in other areas of the ground. We also have the flat area that is used for virtually nothing between the Main stand and the Hospital End corner flag, where a terrace would be built by nearly every club at this level. I know it’s money, but it’s alsoorganisation by people who think bigger than we’ve ever had.
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There used to be terrace standing between main stand and hospital end. Became unsafe I think and was taken down.
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Other clubs at this level have far bigger terraces, so separation of fans is much easier. Away fans also get a much better view than they do at our ground. Our ground development over many decades has been very poor, so putting it right now that we are at a level that needs it, is very difficult. We don’t have a real terrace at either end, so supporters, in winter, are likely to get a cold wet experience, with a very poor view. Aren’t there any local firms that could just at least give us proper steps ? When we allowed a very decent terrace at the Hospital End to disintegrate, we caused opposing supporters having to stand closer to each other, in other areas of the ground. We also have the flat area that is used for virtually nothing between the Main stand and the Hospital End corner flag, where a terrace would be built by nearly every club at this level. I know it’s money, but it’s alsoorganisation by people who think bigger than we’ve ever had.
Maybe a suggestion can be put to the FOTL,many of the terraces you can get come in sections,so could be purchased on section at a time? Also the Trust could use their ground improvement fund again? Obviously they would have to become part of the gound and registered as such so they belong to the ground and not the lessee. :dontknow: