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Title: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Badger on November 05, 2021, 03:11:27 PM
When Ian was first brought into the Club it was stated in the Media that he didn’t like talking to them because he didn’t feel comfortable doing it.  After match summaries when he has done them have been fine but they don’t last as long as the Press conference earlier this week.  After he said his piece on that occasion, he could have, in my opinion, left the table and then maybe all this speculation (in some cases not complimentary) could have been avoided.  He should be left alone and left to do what he does best and we all know what that is.  Both players said they had had a good enjoyable week training and were looking forward not only to Saturday but beyond.  There are many good reasons to get a win on Saturday but it won’t be the end of the world if we don’t.  We still have plenty to look forward to. Regards - Mic Brock (Badger)  :oldman" a supporter for 75 years and proud of it.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: m a hill on November 05, 2021, 03:32:03 PM
I couldn’t agree with you more Mick
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: John H on November 05, 2021, 04:12:40 PM
Very well said Badger, I totally agree with you.
IC is one of the best managers in this league and we owe him a lot for bringing the quality and level of football we have now got.
We are not going to get promotion year on year. Success this season is and always has been, to stay in this league. I am confident we will achieve that. As for tomorrow, its the FA Cup and if we take the game to Walsall like we did in the second half against Boreham, we have every chance of getting a good result.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Mallard on November 05, 2021, 04:35:44 PM
No doubt about it.  IC is an exceptional coach at this level.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Sam Spade on November 05, 2021, 05:30:01 PM
The second best thing the Owner of the club did was to appoint IC in the first place. The best thing the owner did was to realise the mistake of 'letting him go' and not being too proud to contact IC and persuade him to return.

Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: KES80 on November 05, 2021, 05:30:54 PM
Personally I would say IC is a very talented coach and as this level is fairly new to him, he is having to take on very swiftly what works and doesn't work with the personnel he has at his disposal.

Just as there is a huge jump in playing ability from NLN to NL, so there is a huge jump in coaching ability. IC is now competing with some talented and very savvy coaches.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on November 05, 2021, 05:36:25 PM
The second best thing the Owner of the club did was to appoint IC in the first place. The best thing the owner did was to realise the mistake of 'letting him go' and not being too proud to contact IC and persuade him to return.

.......or allow Backie to contact him and getting him to agree to return.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Mallard on November 05, 2021, 05:42:14 PM
No doubt Backie brokered that deal.

Now here’s an off the wall thought.  How about allowing IC to concentrate on his forte of coaching players ( after all thats his background at all clubs, Grantham apart) and bring in an experienced Manager to work with him.  Looking at yesterday’s press Conference he looks to need some help and guidance
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on November 05, 2021, 05:45:19 PM
No doubt Backie brokered that deal.

Now here’s an off the wall thought.  How about allowing IC to concentrate on his forte of coaching players ( after all thats his background at all clubs, Grantham apart) and bring in an experienced Manager to work with him.  Looking at yesterday’s press Conference he looks to need some help and guidance

Help and  guidance, or a bigger playing budget.  :dontknow:

I can't see things changing as far as results go, unless some sort of change is made.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Grissles Oleary on November 05, 2021, 05:46:58 PM
No doubt Backie brokered that deal.

Now here’s an off the wall thought.  How about allowing IC to concentrate on his forte of coaching players ( after all thats his background at all clubs, Grantham apart) and bring in an experienced Manager to work with him.  Looking at yesterday’s press Conference he looks to need some help and guidance

He doesn't need an experienced manager to work with him,he has picked his team in Bazza and Backie! He needs to be given the freedom to run the team as he sees fit,and if Mr Cleeve cannot fund his dream then IC cannot be responsible for that dream becoming a nightmare! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Realist on November 05, 2021, 06:03:36 PM
Personally I would say IC is a very talented coach and as this level is fairly new to him, he is having to take on very swiftly what works and doesn't work with the personnel he has at his disposal.

Just as there is a huge jump in playing ability from NLN to NL, so there is a huge jump in coaching ability. IC is now competing with some talented and very savvy coaches.
I do not get this bit from your post "he is having to take on very swiftly what works and doesn't work with the personnel he has at his disposal."
He has at his disposal what he decided to bring to the club...surely he had plan in mind on each individual, and did not just gather a bunch and then , as you say "take on very swiftly what works and doesn't work with the personnel he has at his disposal."...You are correct about the other stuff, and indeed he may be one of the least experienced MANAGERS at this level, which may be telling now. All in all though on the theme he has done well and the memories of the current regime are good, just looking a little out of it all lately.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: KES80 on November 05, 2021, 06:53:57 PM
No doubt Backie brokered that deal.

Now here’s an off the wall thought.  How about allowing IC to concentrate on his forte of coaching players ( after all thats his background at all clubs, Grantham apart) and bring in an experienced Manager to work with him.  Looking at yesterday’s press Conference he looks to need some help and guidance
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Not so off the wall....I seem to remember suggesting an experienced mentor a few days ago......thought you were against it due to costs :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: KES80 on November 05, 2021, 07:01:11 PM
Personally I would say IC is a very talented coach and as this level is fairly new to him, he is having to take on very swiftly what works and doesn't work with the personnel he has at his disposal.

Just as there is a huge jump in playing ability from NLN to NL, so there is a huge jump in coaching ability. IC is now competing with some talented and very savvy coaches.
I do not get this bit from your post "he is having to take on very swiftly what works and doesn't work with the personnel he has at his disposal."
He has at his disposal what he decided to bring to the club...surely he had plan in mind on each individual, and did not just gather a bunch and then , as you say "take on very swiftly what works and doesn't work with the personnel he has at his disposal."...You are correct about the other stuff, and indeed he may be one of the least experienced MANAGERS at this level, which may be telling now. All in all though on the theme he has done well and the memories of the current regime are good, just looking a little out of it all lately.

What I was actually meaning was that because IC is finding his feet at this level, over pre season he recruited and hoped the personnel would be good enough to see us mid table........that hasn't yet worked out, either because the players are not quite as good as hoped, or because they are rel. young and need time to learn how to win at this level, or because it's a new team taking tome to gel., or a combination of these factors. However, IC doesn't have time...he needs results now, so has to find a way to get results with the players he has at his disposal.

Hopefully that makes it clearer for you.

Apart from that bit of your post, the rest was ok !!!!
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: KES80 on November 05, 2021, 07:11:34 PM
No doubt Backie brokered that deal.

Now here’s an off the wall thought.  How about allowing IC to concentrate on his forte of coaching players ( after all thats his background at all clubs, Grantham apart) and bring in an experienced Manager to work with him.  Looking at yesterday’s press Conference he looks to need some help and guidance

He doesn't need an experienced manager to work with him,he has picked his team in Bazza and Backie! He needs to be given the freedom to run the team as he sees fit,and if Mr Cleeve cannot fund his dream then IC cannot be responsible for that dream becoming a nightmare! :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;

Not true as I see it Griss.......... Wealdstone and Weymouth are currently living the dream ...one is part time and one has a similar squad size to Lynn. IC knew over the Summer, that if they got the squad selection wrong the consequences would be severe..... hasn't SC funded the dream of full time squad, with digs for players, analysts etc. We all know and feel another striker is required and hope that happens, but to my eyes that is moving the goalposts of the original dream.....and there has to be a limit to how many times you can keep moving the goalposts, when you have the limited income streams that Lynn have. IC is responsible for having the right players in the squad for a given budget, surely, that's not SC's remit.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: LUFC1992KLFC on November 05, 2021, 07:20:22 PM
Culverhouse is a good coach and tactician. On our rise he has been head and shoulders above the competition. Now there are many in this league equally as good and or better.
With average or below average players at this level we have no advantage over the others.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Mallard on November 05, 2021, 07:28:25 PM
KES. Looks like you have upset a certain Edp correspondent with your comments about the questions asked to IC.  He ain’t happy with you.

As for getting a Manager in to work with IC.  Maybe  a John Still type.  Someone who  knows what it takes to compete at this level.  Hopefully IC is not like he was in this press conference in front of the players in the dressing room.  He looked totally demotivated.

As for the cost.  Well SC has spent a pretty penny to get this far. So he knows how much it will take to get back to this level if we were to get relegated this season.  I don’t recall saying we can’t afford it.  If SC wants to keeps at this level then it’s got to be found.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: KES80 on November 05, 2021, 07:42:47 PM
KES. Looks like you have upset a certain Edp correspondent with your comments about the questions asked to IC.  He ain’t happy with you


Please expand Mall, I am intrigued.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: happymondays on November 05, 2021, 07:46:03 PM
Who's pretty penny was it ......
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Mallard on November 05, 2021, 07:46:24 PM
Read his Facebook page. Quoting  your post
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: KES80 on November 05, 2021, 07:58:03 PM
Well firstly I am rather pleased he reads this Forum, because there's some really good fair minded debate on here, with most people genuinely wanting the best for the club  and with little pandering or pussy-footing around.

I haven't read his post as I am not really a Facebook user, but as my post has been highlighted, I might have a look. Rather than post there, why not come on here if he feels he wants to challenge something I have said and we can have an adult debate.

I won't post any more in the interest of fairness, until I have seen the context of his post.

Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Mallard on November 05, 2021, 07:59:41 PM
He says he’s not a member so can’t reply, and won’t be  :laughcry:
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: KES80 on November 05, 2021, 08:12:08 PM
Maybe I am looking for the wrong person as I can't see the post on Facebook.......be clearer Mall or give me alink...cheers
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on November 05, 2021, 08:26:10 PM
Maybe they should have let young Sam Plummer ask a few questions

Confidence of youth so not afraid to ask searching questions, and not so distant from the everyday supporter, which hopefully would lead to relevant questions that the supporters would like the answer to.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Mallard on November 05, 2021, 08:31:06 PM
Yes no tip toeing around the Manager cos he happens to be in a strange mood. For example when did Chris Lakey ask a question on what is going on with Cameron King ?  Or has some mutual  back scratching been done on that one ?
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: KES80 on November 05, 2021, 08:33:44 PM
He says he’s not a member so can’t reply, and won’t be  :laughcry:

That's a shame.

Have reviewed my post and fully stand by it.


Have just seen your post B & G while I was typing......yes no searching or in depth questions , so we learn nothing of real relevance to the pressing matters at the club.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on November 05, 2021, 08:51:18 PM
He says he’s not a member so can’t reply, and won’t be  :laughcry:

That's a shame.

Have reviewed my post and fully stand by it.


Have just seen your post B & G while I was typing......yes no searching or in depth questions , so we learn nothing of real relevance to the pressing matters at the club.

I guess that’s at least one less edp being sold in future!  🤣
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: KES80 on November 05, 2021, 09:25:19 PM
...if journos aren't asking the questions that fans want answers to, then why would fans pay for the paper or subscribe to output ?  The one guy that has stood out for me was the one that did 3/4 interviews with IC for the club, the last one being about 6 weeks ago, if memory serves me..... really asking the questions that fans wanted answering...and done in a professional and adult manner and IC was really engaged in the conversation.


Given how this thread has developed, what's really ironic is everyone on our street has had a free EDP stuffed through their door today (hours before we had our traditional November 5th communal bonfire celebration infact).
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: KES80 on November 05, 2021, 09:58:38 PM
Maybe I am looking for the wrong person as I can't see the post on Facebook.......be clearer Mall or give me alink...cheers

 :thanks: Mall
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on November 05, 2021, 10:10:12 PM
Given how this thread has developed, what's really ironic is everyone on our street has had a free EDP stuffed through their door today (hours before we had our traditional November 5th communal bonfire celebration infact).

 :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:

Very good.

 :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Grissles Oleary on November 05, 2021, 11:56:18 PM
Probably because this forum is full of bloody moaners,bloddy trust just want the club to fail so they can move in and bring UCL football back to king@s Lynn with Setch in charge,bring back Defty and Quigley! :oldman" :banghead;
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on November 06, 2021, 08:29:33 AM
I still wouldn't pay £7 for it!   :laughcry:
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: dillydilly on November 06, 2021, 09:09:13 AM
I wish IC and SC all the best for today, and the future.  I don’t, however, believe that there is enough in football for any manager to be an “ expert”.  That’s why they all end up getting the sack, four or five times over.  The best ones don’t ever get involved in the daft pretence if complicated tactics.  Watch Pep G’s answers and smirks to Geoff Shreve questions !  Carragher and Neville talk rocket science to players, most of whom don’t understand a word they say ! (and no wonder !)  And as for those flip chart photos before a sub comes on, the players are more intent on wetting their half and taking a swig out of the bottle.  Good players win games, poor ones don’t, not even if they’re in “ a diamond” !!  Imho, and COYL
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: TonyM on November 06, 2021, 10:59:51 AM
I wish IC and SC all the best for today, and the future.  I don’t, however, believe that there is enough in football for any manager to be an “ expert”.  That’s why they all end up getting the sack, four or five times over.  The best ones don’t ever get involved in the daft pretence if complicated tactics.  Watch Pep G’s answers and smirks to Geoff Shreve questions !  Carragher and Neville talk rocket science to players, most of whom don’t understand a word they say ! (and no wonder !)  And as for those flip chart photos before a sub comes on, the players are more intent on wetting their half and taking a swig out of the bottle.  Good players win games, poor ones don’t, not even if they’re in “ a diamond” !!  Imho, and COYL

Dilly, firstly in response to your post on another thread, please keep posting, not because I agree with you but because it is a good thing to have alternative views expressed as no-one (not even members of the press) are always right. 

As for your final sentence above, whilst better players will win more games than poor players, good teams will almost always overcome poor teams.  As an example, Sutton had nowhere near the 'best' players in the division last season but they had a system that suited the players at their disposal (and had been brought in to play that system) and it worked so success is probably a combination of players and systems.  Where we struggled last season is that the recruitment was poor - not necessarily in the players we got (although some weren't NL standard) but in that they didn't suit IC's preferred style and whilst this season's recruitment has been better I still think there are some square pegs being pushed into round holes.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: dillydilly on November 06, 2021, 01:49:25 PM
Disagree, TonyM.  I don’t think Sutton had a system that suited the players.  I believe they had the players to suit the system, which was simply to score more goals than the opposition.  We’never hear Pep G talking “systems”, because he wants all his players to move all over the place, all the time.  Never mind - all opinions.  I hope for 2-1 today, but suspect 1 x 3 !……
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: dillydilly on November 07, 2021, 12:14:47 AM
What was Dilly saying about managers all get sacked ?  I presume Daniel has as much tactical “ knowledge”now as he had when he took Norwich up.  So has he suddenly forgotten it all ?  No, like all managers, he needed money, a good eye for a player, and,luck.  Swapping managers doesn’t hurt,.  All he needs is money and contacts.  Even the so-called “Special One” actually had no clue about players, which he proved spectacularly when he got rid of Salah, De Bruyne, Lukaku, Cuadrado, Janujay, for Gawd’s sake.  We all agree though, that our team are now competitive.  Keep reading we play good but uncreative football.  I’m not sure that’s true.  It would be if we had King, or Kelly back, and I see that Nathan Fox was on the winning side against York today.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Nigel1505 on November 07, 2021, 01:19:26 PM
With the amount of injuries we have had this season, IC has been able to field  about  two thirds of a squad. Lets wait and see how we get on when all are fit.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: kenny r on November 07, 2021, 02:56:45 PM
Especially the lad Barrett. He has close control and a range of passing to open up defences....as long as the rest of the team can read him.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: KES80 on November 07, 2021, 02:57:06 PM
I do understand the point you are making Nigel and Lynn have been a little unlucky with injuries.

Given the nature of the league though, I will be surprised if we see everyone in the squad fit at the same time.
Title: Re: Ian Culverhouse
Post by: Grissles Oleary on November 07, 2021, 04:24:17 PM
Especially the lad Barrett. He has close control and a range of passing to open up defences....as long as the rest of the team can read him.

If he keeps fit he will the best signing of the season.
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