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Title: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: westlynnmike on January 09, 2022, 11:12:37 AM
Woking game called off due to waterlogged pitch and weather forecast not brilliant over the next few days.

What are the chances of the Notts County (rearranged) game on Tuesday evening going ahead? Mind you they will have all day to get the mops, buckets and brushes working.
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 09, 2022, 12:31:47 PM
Woking game called off due to waterlogged pitch and weather forecast not brilliant over the next few days.

What are the chances of the Notts County (rearranged) game on Tuesday evening going ahead? Mind you they will have all day to get the mops, buckets and brushes working.


......and to mobilise the abled body and willing volunteers.

Let's hope they are on to it now, and a call for assistance isn't made at 11 o'clock Tuesday morning.

 :scarf:
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: Mallard on January 09, 2022, 12:42:22 PM
Letís hope for some fine weather, a  good crowd and TW continuing his 100% home record
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: Coastal linnet on January 09, 2022, 01:28:04 PM
Whether the game is on or off an early decision will be needed
to prevent unnecessary travel.
Regarding a bit of mud; I can't remember my P.E. teachers at the QBS in Wisbech cancelling our x country runs along Halfpenny Lane due to the weather.
Also, there seems to be a lack of flexibility. Notts County were given the opportunity to play the postponed game on the Tuesday after Bank Holiday but declined.
which was a shame as many were still on holiday at that time and
would have helped with crowd numbers. Yesterday, there was the suggestion to delay the kick off until four but again apparent lack of flexibility.

Can local refs be used to do match day pitch inspections to help in early decision making.

Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: Blueboy on January 09, 2022, 01:57:33 PM
Coastal Linnet it always used to be that if a local referee inspected the pitch then he had to be at the same level as the match referee. Chances are if there are any officials at that level in the area then they would be on their way to a fixture.
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: rod on January 09, 2022, 04:15:30 PM
We are becoming an increasingly risk averse, wimpish society!
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: gs50 on January 09, 2022, 04:30:42 PM
According to SC Twitter pitch was playable at 4 with both teams prepared to play.listened to Radio Norfolk yesterday and it was said by commentators that there was no way Notts County game should have been called off.
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: TonyM on January 10, 2022, 06:00:31 PM
Pitch inspection at 11am, does anyone know if Rob Whitton was the original ref, if it is the same guy then I would say there is next to no chance of it going ahead, any other ref then with the forecast we should be in with a good chance of seeing some football tomorrow night.

https://www.kltown.co.uk/2022/01/10/pitch-inspection-scheduled-ahead-of-notts-county-game/
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: macfleetwood1 on January 11, 2022, 11:24:04 AM
There is no rain forecast after lunch 12ish,  fingers crossed.
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 11, 2022, 12:01:22 PM
How long does a pitch inspection take to do?
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: admin on January 11, 2022, 12:15:30 PM
11 am pitch inspection done and passed and another a 2pm
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 11, 2022, 12:49:16 PM
11 am pitch inspection done and passed and another a 2pm

 :scarf:
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: rod on January 11, 2022, 12:53:09 PM
Why is it that referees are seemingly the only people.qualified to determine whether a pitch is 'playable'?
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: TonyM on January 11, 2022, 01:19:38 PM
Why is it that referees are seemingly the only people.qualified to determine whether a pitch is 'playable'?

Because it is part of their duties, in the same way assistant referees check the nets before a game.  Someone has to be responsible and who else would you suggest?
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: rod on January 11, 2022, 01:37:54 PM
Why is it that referees are seemingly the only people.qualified to determine whether a pitch is 'playable'?

Because it is part of their duties, in the same way assistant referees check the nets before a game.  Someone has to be responsible and who else would you suggest?

Checking the nets is surely a fairly black and white situation, whereas determining whether a pitch is playable brings many issues into play, leaving much to individual interpretation, unless an objective judgment is made against a set of consistent criteria????
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: TonyM on January 11, 2022, 01:58:13 PM
Why is it that referees are seemingly the only people.qualified to determine whether a pitch is 'playable'?

Because it is part of their duties, in the same way assistant referees check the nets before a game.  Someone has to be responsible and who else would you suggest?

Checking the nets is surely a fairly black and white situation, whereas determining whether a pitch is playable brings many issues into play, leaving much to individual interpretation, unless an objective judgment is made against a set of consistent criteria????

Unless you are thinking there should be independent pitch assessors surely the person best positioned to make 'an objective judgement' is the match referee.  That said, I thought the ref got it wrong on Boxing Day, mainly based on the consistency criteria as we have seen other games go ahead in similar conditions but I still think it was his decision to make, sometimes refs will make decisions that we don't agree with (those who stand near me will atest that I don't always concur with the officials) but that is the nature of having individuals doing the job
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: Mallard on January 11, 2022, 02:28:22 PM
With the World of blame culture that we live in a ref worth his salt is always going to err on the side of caution. 

We have recently seen the case of jockey Freddie Tylicki to see what can happen, by someone making a poor decision
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: TonyM on January 11, 2022, 11:17:56 PM
Well, I wasn't the only one who disagreed with some of Mr Whitton's decisions this evening, most notably the penalty that wasn't with Notts County adding insult to injury by going straight down the other end to take the lead.  County had some good individuals and opened us up a number of times but seems like an opportunity missed.

Positives for me tonight were Clunan (outstanding), Scott who looks a good find and the general intensity we showed in the first half.  Unfortunately even though Omotayo had a better game and got his first league goal he still doesn't look like someone who is going to help a side to escape relegation, same can probably be said about the other three forwards who came on as subs in the second half.  You can understand why Widdrington (jnr) has been brought in as he gave us a bit more edge in the centre but struggled with the pace of the game, particularly when County upped their game second half. 
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: Mallard on January 12, 2022, 10:58:00 AM
Just listened to TWís post match interview.  He did seem a little disappointed with the result.  Which is a good sign as not many could have seen us expecting anything from this one.

Full steam ahead for a result at lowly NLS side Tonbridge. 

Have to say I was a little disappointed with a couple of sly digs TW had, indirectly at IC.  Culverhouse did win back to back promotions for us.  Including a NLN title.  Letís hope Tommy can win something with us during his time.
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: TonyM on January 12, 2022, 01:36:59 PM
Just listened to TWís post match interview.  He did seem a little disappointed with the result.  Which is a good sign as not many could have seen us expecting anything from this one.

Full steam ahead for a result at lowly NLS side Tonbridge. 

Have to say I was a little disappointed with a couple of sly digs TW had, indirectly at IC.  Culverhouse did win back to back promotions for us.  Including a NLN title.  Letís hope Tommy can win something with us during his time.

Not sure there is much to disagree with Mall, link here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W23MhENCZ30

As for the digs I think he is spot on that the system that Omotayo was asked to play in didn't suit him, the big question is can TW find such a system (I have my doubts, particularly at step 1 but we will see).  It was also a fair point about having a lot of 'similar' players, again going back to the recruitment both this year and last which just wasn't good enough and as for players being 'programmed' I think IC's record speaks for itself, whether you call it programming or philosophy it worked well at the Walks at steps 3 & 2. 

No further comment about players coming in / going out which is a disappointment given TW's history but maybe he is also finding the recruitment difficult for whatever reason (availability, location, £s or a combination of all three)
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: Mallard on January 12, 2022, 02:45:31 PM
The way it came across Tony is that Gold didnít fit the system of IC and in a few short weeks TW has waved a magic wand and turned him into what we are missing. Not sure how you feel but Iím not convinced Gold is a NLP player no matter what the system.

Just maybe Tommy is convincing himself and anyone who will listen that Gold is the answer to his striking problem and doesnít need to bring anyone else in.

Also on the subject of having to many of the same Ďtypeí of player then we can expect a few to be on the way. Presumably.
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 12, 2022, 05:14:13 PM
The way it came across Tony is that Gold didnít fit the system of IC and in a few short weeks TW has waved a magic wand and turned him into what we are missing. Not sure how you feel but Iím not convinced Gold is a NLP player no matter what the system.

Just maybe Tommy is convincing himself and anyone who will listen that Gold is the answer to his striking problem and doesnít need to bring anyone else in.

Also on the subject of having to many of the same Ďtypeí of player then we can expect a few to be on the way. Presumably.

If you can't find a decent striker to sign, there's nothing wrong in bigging up the confidence of the ones you already have. Motivational Management.   :scarf:
Title: Re: What Chance Notts County Game Going Ahead on Tuesday Evening?
Post by: TonyM on January 12, 2022, 05:22:27 PM
The way it came across Tony is that Gold didnít fit the system of IC and in a few short weeks TW has waved a magic wand and turned him into what we are missing. Not sure how you feel but Iím not convinced Gold is a NLP player no matter what the system.

Just maybe Tommy is convincing himself and anyone who will listen that Gold is the answer to his striking problem and doesnít need to bring anyone else in.

Not sure who TW was trying to convince (fans, Gold or even himself) but I think you may have got that last sentence back to front - maybe he can't bring anyone else in so therefore Omotayo is the answer to our striking problems by default and no, I am far from convinced there is any sort of system that makes him into a NL centre forward.  I would agree with one thing TW said about him though, he was very good at defensive headers last night but that can't be a justification for playing someone, again maybe TW just finding positives where he can?

Also on the subject of having to many of the same Ďtypeí of player then we can expect a few to be on the way. Presumably.

TW has signed three which now means we have fit players not even making the bench so you would imagine so, I did say the other week that I thought the comment TW made about being impressed with everyone smacked a bit of not wanting to upset players who he may need in the short term but can't see the point in keeping some of the loanees (McGavin, Fernandez and Linton) when they are getting limited game time.
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