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Title: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Walks In The Sunshine on January 16, 2022, 10:59:51 PM
I read all posts on here and there are some interesting - albeit cryptic sometimes - opinions on our chairman.

Whether admin could create a poll here, but I'm just interested in who thinks he is good for the club and therefore a fan of him and those who think he is not good for our club

To start the ball rolling, I'm a fan (still) as I think he gets a few things wrong, but essentially has done a good job

So a YES from me
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on January 17, 2022, 06:13:47 PM
No from me.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: happymondays on January 17, 2022, 06:16:43 PM
About as much of a fan as I am of Boris Johnson
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Mallard on January 17, 2022, 06:44:03 PM
For balance we have to thank him for helping to deliver one of the best season we have had ( winning the NLN).  Then we have had this season.   It was such a shame he couldnít keep pace with stuff off the field to match the on field exploits. Then again a lot of that was down to the people he employed.   Ultimately the buck stops with SC.

When the full financial picture is revealed will tell us how good a job he has done.

In conclusion Iím settling for splinters in my arris from sitting on the fence
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Sam Spade on January 17, 2022, 09:21:16 PM
 
For balance we have to thank him for helping to deliver one of the best season we have had ( winning the NLN).  Then we have had this season.   It was such a shame he couldnít keep pace with stuff off the field to match the on field exploits. Then again a lot of that was down to the people he employed.   Ultimately the buck stops with SC.

When the full financial picture is revealed will tell us how good a job he has done.

In conclusion Iím settling for splinters in my arris from sitting on the fence

"Down to the people he employed"?
  I trust you mean the ones that were announced in a fanfare and then never heard of again.  Rather than some of the more recent departures who put up with the Owner's hopeless interference far longer than most could have endured.       (And some of the remaining, longstanding, virtual 'volunteers' still working hard against the odds)
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: m a hill on January 17, 2022, 09:54:57 PM
Iíve got to say for all he has done for the club, ok heís got a lot of the things wrong sometimes not all his fault, I really think the page has been turned. We now have a catering manager who really knows whatís sheís doing ie the bar pricing is pulling in customers and food is now available. We have a new Team Manager who I hope will turn the results around so my answer will be yes
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 17, 2022, 10:29:18 PM
Iíve got to say for all he has done for the club, ok heís got a lot of the things wrong sometimes not all his fault, I really think the page has been turned. We now have a catering manager who really knows whatís sheís doing ie the bar pricing is pulling in customers and food is now available. We have a new Team Manager who I hope will turn the results around so my answer will be yes

Too little too late?   :dontknow:


Nice to see you posting again Malcolm. Not heard anything about Fotls recently. Any updates on what they are doing and have achieved since you last posted about them? We see and hear what Grissles has been up to, but not a lot else.

 :scarf:
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: m a hill on January 18, 2022, 12:58:16 AM
Well the FOtLSC are planning several events in the coming mths including nights with Ex players,group nights etc you will be hearing a lot more from Griss you is now our Events Manager and is doing a great job. We are trying to get fans more involved with the FOTLSC and I know it wonít be easy to win them over in these trying times but at least we are trying to do something different
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Mallard on January 18, 2022, 08:21:38 AM
Sam Iím sure you know as much as any about those who have achieved and those, shall we say have under achieved.  The commercial side.  The number of people who have been involved there that have failed to deliver.  Itís a long list. Do we even have anyone in that area now ?

I do feel sorry for SC.  Then again some of it he had brought upon himself by trusting certain individuals to do things that have not been delivered.  I guess  being a one man band has a price.

Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 18, 2022, 09:20:29 AM
Well the FOtLSC are planning several events in the coming mths including nights with Ex players,group nights etc you will be hearing a lot more from Griss you is now our Events Manager and is doing a great job. We are trying to get fans more involved with the FOTLSC and I know it wonít be easy to win them over in these trying times but at least we are trying to do something different

Thanks Malcolm.

When it comes to enthusiasm for such things, Griss is your man. He won't keep his head down just because the going gets tough.

By the way, did you ever get that on line application form sorted? Did/are the Club co-operating and helping you with that?
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: little John on January 18, 2022, 11:05:46 AM
I remember at the Weymuff game SC he would  do "Whatever it takes" to put it right. ....  I'm still waiting.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 18, 2022, 11:41:18 AM
It was such a shame he couldnít keep pace with stuff off the field to match the on field exploits. Then again a lot of that was down to the people he employed.   Ultimately the buck stops with SC.

When the full financial picture is revealed will tell us how good a job he has done.



"Down to the people he employed"?
  I trust you mean the ones that were announced in a fanfare and then never heard of again.  Rather than some of the more recent departures who put up with the Owner's hopeless interference far longer than most could have endured.       (And some of the remaining, longstanding, virtual 'volunteers' still working hard against the odds)


One of the (many) definitions of the "Peter Principle"?  :dontknow:

A recipe for disaster unless "Parkinson's law" is applied by any individuals it effects.

Problem is, the latter is usually something that the former haven't got the ability to do.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Non League on January 18, 2022, 02:08:45 PM
In the middle for me, but heading towards No. What he has done for the club up till early 20-21 season was great. Yes there were mistakes along the way, but that's often part & parcel of owning a club at this level as a one man band. Problems though for me started with the lights of football league just one promotion away. Reality was club of Lynn size is never going to get promoted anytime soon without the right infrastructure, so he wanted the club to run at this level before it could walk. Said it at the time when club went up, it should've concentrated on getting the foundations down, where if club went down first season, it was in a position to be challenging promotion back first time of asking, that now won't happen because the core of the group has been lost.

It was also a chance by doing that, becoming a respected club where likes of Norwich, Ipswich & P'Boro (but mostly Norwich with closer links) trust to send their better youngsters to play to get that first team competitive football. That's seemingly lost.

Whilst pandemic had some negative impacts on the club, it also had some major positives by both promoting the club to this level, and allowing 2 seasons to play. It could've been used to bled in youngsters, give players time to learn and prove themselves at this level. That free hand is now lost.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: little John on January 18, 2022, 02:45:08 PM
Talking about town sive,  Forest Green have done well.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: AXV on January 18, 2022, 05:04:34 PM
Talking about town sive,  Forest Green have done well.
Forest Green have done exceptionally well, but they do have an energy mogul at the helm
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: FenRam on January 18, 2022, 05:33:07 PM
It pains me to say but Lynn are nowhere as big a Club as some think - while the pricing may have deterred a few the attendances have been abysmal overall.

There just isnt enough of a fan base to support Football at this level
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Grissles Oleary on January 18, 2022, 06:14:36 PM
It pains me to say but Lynn are nowhere as big a Club as some think - while the pricing may have deterred a few the attendances have been abysmal overall.

There just isnt enough of a fan base to support Football at this level

You're right,we have gone very quickly from being a big fish in a small pond to a small fish in a big pond,but with the right pricing structure we could see I believe we could see regular 1500+ gates,but the performance on the pitch needs to improve. Things off the pitch are improving very slowly,but remember we are in unchartered territory?  :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on January 18, 2022, 08:15:54 PM
Talking about town sive,  Forest Green have done well.
Forest Green have done exceptionally well, but they do have an energy mogul at the helm
Yes but we have a supposed valuable wine specialist, fake champagne specialist and dodgy land dealer as ours!
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Dazzarugby65 on January 18, 2022, 09:34:14 PM
Talking about town sive,  Forest Green have done well.
Forest Green have done exceptionally well, but they do have an energy mogul at the helm

This is true, and I believe he is a Norfolk boy. IF ONLY. :banghead;
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 19, 2022, 09:09:28 AM
Talking about town sive,  Forest Green have done well.
Forest Green have done exceptionally well, but they do have an energy mogul at the helm

This is true, and I believe he is a Norfolk boy. IF ONLY. :banghead;

And when he calls time on it, as most of them do sooner or later, what then for the Club?
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Mallard on January 19, 2022, 01:00:57 PM
They will have enjoyed the ride and something to look back on.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Loopy,linnet on January 19, 2022, 02:12:38 PM
Nothing wrong with cleeve heís got the club to the highest itís been heís chucked his money at it just a shame managers canít Chuck it on the right players to win games ,cleeve has his faults no different to anyone else
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Mallard on January 19, 2022, 02:38:56 PM
Good call Loopy. Yes he did make the brave decision of sacking Setch to bring in IC which saw us rise up into  the NL.   He didnít get everything wrong without a doubt.   
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 19, 2022, 02:49:08 PM
Nothing wrong with cleeve heís got the club to the highest itís been heís chucked his money at it just a shame managers canít Chuck it on the right players to win games ,cleeve has his faults no different to anyone else

Maybe, but it is Cleeve that appoints these Managers.

The only one he didn't appoint was (back to back) Setch.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Bluboy on January 19, 2022, 07:55:17 PM
For me I like the guy and has given us some great highlights over his reign.. I do feel for him since covid hit heís had to make tough decisions and only time will tell wether right or wrong ones , had not the pandemic happened I feel our support and approach would of been so different and think our crowds wouldíve not been so affected. HoweverÖ. Heís trying to get things right off the pitch but he really did need to get us involved more and more engaging with the fans so much couldíve been done to help with many a good idea he do have a self destruct button for s/media but what he donít realise the flack it gives us /club Ö only time will tell just hope his past doesnít haunt us .
 
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on January 19, 2022, 08:23:46 PM
Hope it doesn't haunt us?????? Surely it does every single day with the most important fact of all. NOBODY with any money and who can read will have anything to do with KLTFC while SC is at the helm. There is a huge amount of industry within a 10 mile radius of Kl but not one of them will sponsor KLTFC because of the ridiculous amounts of money asked for the pleasure of doing so. Business people talk amongst themselves and the amount of times i have heard he asked for £100k, well i was offered at £75K etc etc.
The commercial side that should be exploring every avenue bringing in sponsorships etc usually lasts about 7 days before the latest incumbant leaves. Famous scouts (who allegedly founded Rooney), who cost KLTFC a small fortune and found NOTHING.
You all keep listening to the spiel but the final result is always the same. ZILCH.
Take off your blinkers people. If anyone has all the programme notes from day 1 i guarantee even a tiny percentage have ever come to anything.
As for Setch getting the sack, in the February i was driving SC to Harlow Football Club to meet Joma. One of the conversations was Gordon do you think i should sack Setch. Obviously i refused to give an answer to that question. On the way home Gordon stop at McDonalds for a meal. He even held the door open for me but to tell me on going inside i haven't any cash or cards with me Gordon!!!!!
Said it before i can write a book.
I will call it "Wakey wakey KL Supporters".
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Mj on January 19, 2022, 08:59:26 PM
Think sour grapes would be more fitting
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: rod on January 19, 2022, 09:33:40 PM
Closer to fact than fiction and very few, if any,  sour grapes.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Mallard on January 19, 2022, 10:30:07 PM
Surely a small price to pay Gordon for the privilege of sponsoring the Club.  I remember he had three offers on the table at one time.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Grissles Oleary on January 19, 2022, 10:56:26 PM
Surely a small price to pay Gordon for the privilege of sponsoring the Club.  I remember he had three offers on the table at one time.

What did happen to that table? :dontknow:
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 20, 2022, 12:02:57 AM
Surely a small price to pay Gordon for the privilege of sponsoring the Club.  I remember he had three offers on the table at one time.

What did happen to that table? :dontknow:

Was offered a lot of money for it. Someone could see it was a very important table. Used to belong to the Academy, so it's worked its way up to this level. It's now gone onto better things and fulfilling its dreams. Club would have preferred for it to stay but won't stand in any tables way if it wants to progress its career.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Mallard on January 20, 2022, 07:04:53 AM
Last I heard the table had been made redundant through lack of use and had retired to the Countryside where it was being used in a potting shed.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 20, 2022, 09:53:45 AM
Last I heard the table had been made redundant through lack of use and had retired to the Countryside where it was being used in a potting shed.

Two different storyís on this one.

One is that itís being used as a treatment table in Norwich, the other that itís in a potting shed in a rehabilitation centre in Swaffham.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: rod on January 20, 2022, 10:01:27 AM
Or perhaps it was just a figment of someone's imagination?
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Gordon Chilvers on January 20, 2022, 09:10:33 PM
Think sour grapes would be more fitting
The only sour grapes are from the dodgy wine deals!
Me i am on cloud nine, enjoying my football more than anytime under the current regime.
Here is another fact for you. When we bailed out the club in the October and sponsored both the 1st team and the Reserves  i asked if my and my business partners grandsons could be the mascots for the final 1st team home game of the season. Yes Gordon, how does £150 sound. I immediately turned that down and at the end of the season the 2 boys had a great day mostly thanks to the attention given them by Ian Culverhouse and the players!
MJ when next in Newmarket get your blinkers serviced!
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: daleh on January 22, 2022, 03:39:55 PM
I'm not critical of SC because with clubs of our status and size they inevitably need a strong money man (or woman) at the top. By definition they are likely to be egotistic, opinionated and ,probably, hedonistic.  They put their money in (or guarantee loans) and they want things done their way. We, the supporters, go along for the ride and usually ignore the excesses of the owner's character whilst things are going well. When events take a down turn (as now) all the old annoyances and anger start to resurface. Until the club becomes a 'community owned' entity it will always be thus I feel. I wish I knew how this is done ????
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on January 22, 2022, 03:55:54 PM
The owners dream, is not necessarily the locals dream  Please discuss.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 22, 2022, 04:25:54 PM
The owners dream, is not necessarily the locals dream  Please discuss.

It's certainly not mine. Never was.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Bluboy on January 22, 2022, 07:42:16 PM
The owners dream, is not necessarily the locals dream  Please discuss.

It's certainly not mine. Never was.
Isnít it everyoneís dream to see your team playing at a high level , personally covid has put the  dampnerís on progress etc would just of been nice to consolidate a place before dreaming even bigger  Ö interesting times between now and first game of next season to come !!  NLS would be my starting point , as much as I believe in the great escape think my tyres getting a slow puncture  :dirtbike:
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Mallard on January 22, 2022, 08:22:51 PM
Gap is now 13 points plus goal difference.  Maidenhead won today.

I wonder at what point SC starts preparing the club  for next season.  Or has it already started?

On what we have seen so far, will TW be the right man to lead us?
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Bluboy on January 22, 2022, 10:54:16 PM
Gap is now 13 points plus goal difference.  Maidenhead won today.

I wonder at what point SC starts preparing the club  for next season.  Or has it already started?

On what we have seen so far, will TW be the right man to lead us?
Agree  5 wins just to get out of the zone weíre looking at 10 wins out of 22 games Ö
 Yes weíre have a more attacking attitude to our games but I look at our squad with loan players and high earners i wonder how much of a clearance we need and tbh who would you keep ??? Coleman, clunan , 2x Jones , Ross , Kyle , Barrett, for me perhaps 1or2more but canít remember if theyíre here on loan or not 🙄 as for TW Iíll save my judgment until may but so far 7/10
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: TonyM on January 23, 2022, 10:35:23 PM
The owners dream, is not necessarily the locals dream  Please discuss.

It's certainly not mine. Never was.
Isnít it everyoneís dream to see your team playing at a high level ...

Bluboy, I have to say I am with B&G (and Marcus) in that NL isn't my dream, at least not currently with the way it has been achieved - basically gambling with the future of the club with unsustainable financial doping to get us to NL that has meant we were totally unprepared to function at this level with pretty predictable results.  Appreciate there are a range of views on this with plenty willing to 'enjoy the ride and ignore the consequences' but at the last fans forum SC seemed genuinely surprised that there were some there who would be happier building a more sustainable model at step 2 without risking it all chasing a dream which we have seen elsewhere often ends badly
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Bluboy on January 23, 2022, 11:18:56 PM
The owners dream, is not necessarily the locals dream  Please discuss.

It's certainly not mine. Never was.
Isnít it everyoneís dream to see your team playing at a high level ...

Bluboy, I have to say I am with B&G (and Marcus) in that NL isn't my dream, at least not currently with the way it has been achieved - basically gambling with the future of the club with unsustainable financial doping to get us to NL that has meant we were totally unprepared to function at this level with pretty predictable results.  Appreciate there are a range of views on this with plenty willing to 'enjoy the ride and ignore the consequences' but at the last fans forum SC seemed genuinely surprised that there were some there who would be happier building a more sustainable model at step 2 without risking it all chasing a dream which we have seen elsewhere often ends badly
Totally understand where your coming from , my concerns was after the first NL season and no major income for a year was going full time and seeing the core ripped out of the side and then getting players who tbh here for the full time dollar , are we really any better of ?? Then look at the costing of that and now supporting that with only 800/900 fans coming in god knows what mess the books would be in if it wasnít for  the bigger away followings , like I said shouldíve walked before we ran in this league
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Loopy,linnet on January 26, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
The owners dream, is not necessarily the locals dream  Please discuss.
your dream Marcus UCL Football
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Loopy,linnet on January 26, 2022, 10:31:47 AM
The owners dream, is not necessarily the locals dream  Please discuss.

It's certainly not mine. Never was.
another happy in UCL
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 26, 2022, 12:40:32 PM
The owners dream, is not necessarily the locals dream  Please discuss.

It's certainly not mine. Never was.
another happy in UCL

 :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:

Making it up as you go along. Nobody has said anything remotely like that and you are the only person to mention the UCL (although you may like to ask yourself why the previous Club had to play in the UCL a few seasons ago).

 :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:


Using a similar logic, are you saying that you are happy for a Club to play at a level it obviously can't afford, and then be in danger of going bust, as long as you can have a couple of years watching your club playing in the NL? 

Just wondering.   :dontknow:
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Mallard on January 26, 2022, 01:28:26 PM
Kings Lynn are a mid table Step 3 Club.   Anything below we are underachieving anything above and we are punching.

Talking of the UCL.  Fans use to turn up in big numbers to watch us to stick to the likes Kempston, Holbeach etc.   So obviously there was plenty who did like that level.... even though we never won it.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on January 26, 2022, 01:50:13 PM
Kings Lynn are a mid table Step 3 Club.   Anything below we are underachieving anything above and we are punching.

Talking of the UCL.  Fans use to turn up in big numbers to watch us to stick to the likes Kempston, Holbeach etc.   So obviously there was plenty who did like that level.... even though we never won it.

Further proof if needed that just chucking money at it very rarely works. Big fish, small pond and we still needed the wind to be in our favour to get promoted, even at that level.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: rod on January 26, 2022, 01:51:29 PM
Winning games, ideally with a couple of local players in the team will usually attract bigger gates than will a consistently underperforming side in a higher league.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: TonyM on January 26, 2022, 02:21:24 PM
Kings Lynn are a mid table Step 3 Club.   Anything below we are underachieving anything above and we are punching.

Interesting view to start a discussion but I think a well run club at the Walks should be capable of operating sustainably above that (be that playoff step 3 / lower half step 2) and if it did get some momentum then could certainly build to become a solid step 2 side.  Unfortunately as the previous regime (Bobbins etc) showed a poorly run side can't operate at the level, at least not if it has to pay it's taxes and Buster could only make mid table at step 3 pay but again there was little to no fan involvement in his set up so maybe that is the missing element to enable a higher level operation viable.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: MARCUS ROSE on January 26, 2022, 04:33:53 PM
The owners dream, is not necessarily the locals dream  Please discuss.
your dream Marcus UCL Football

That's my dream sorted then. Now what's your dream Loopy ?  Now don't be shy,  a sensible answer is always welcome.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Mallard on January 26, 2022, 04:43:05 PM
Kings Lynn are a mid table Step 3 Club.   Anything below we are underachieving anything above and we are punching.

Interesting view to start a discussion but I think a well run club at the Walks should be capable of operating sustainably above that (be that playoff step 3 / lower half step 2) and if it did get some momentum then could certainly build to become a solid step 2 side.  Unfortunately as the previous regime (Bobbins etc) showed a poorly run side can't operate at the level, at least not if it has to pay it's taxes and Buster could only make mid table at step 3 pay but again there was little to no fan involvement in his set up so maybe that is the missing element to enable a higher level operation viable.

We can always achieve more,  but with the current infrastructure in place I feel itís a step 3 set up. Then again we could achieve more with maybe  something along the lines of Wrexham where people have come in with big money and fans have bought into this.  Iím just basing it on what we see at the club currently and for the last X number of years.



Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Grissles Oleary on January 26, 2022, 05:59:16 PM
Won't be long before Heacham reach UCL status, real derby game that one? :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Anton on January 26, 2022, 07:22:27 PM
The way I see it is, Makes no difference how much money you spend if you don't spend it wisely. Some of the players we have are a waste of space in my opinion.  One of the biggest problems we have is where we are located in England, however I can't see what difference it makes, but over the years it has :sad:  We had a better following when we were in a lower division, although we were winning games then.   Maybe this league is beyond our scope unless we have the infrastructure. SC has done a lot for this club and has got to where we are today..Can we go any further with our present set-up, I doubt it. Something has to change one way or another.  :laughcry:
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Mallard on January 26, 2022, 09:42:24 PM
Well maybe Tommy has been brought in to get us out of this League.  Come May I think he will have accomplished that.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Anton on January 27, 2022, 01:02:09 PM
Can't see how we can avoid the drop Mallard! If we did then next season we would need a change most of our players.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: TonyM on February 01, 2022, 01:48:50 PM
Interesting comments from the Borehamwood chairman in last weekends programme notes, wonder if SC read them?  https://www.borehamwoodfootballclub.co.uk/uncategorized/chairmans-notes-kings-lynn-town-h/

Couple of quotes to highlight with my thoughts at the end of each.
* "Throughout my tenure Iíve always tried to think of the bigger picture, by improving not only the things the fans wanted on the pitch but also the structures that would allow the club to thrive off the pitch, in terms of an ever-improving facility and a vision that will I hope stretch itself to one day put us in the Football League."  - not putting the cart before the horse
* "When I look back to my inexperienced arrival here in 1999, I have to acknowledge that I failed to improve things on and off the pitch quickly enough in those very early years ... because we all worked so hard together to overcome many of my shortcomings, that I learnt so quickly, and itís a fact that when I did get things wrong which was often, you always stood by me because, as I said earlier, ďgod loves a trierĒ and for that you will always have my eternal thanks" - working together seems to be the message, even for a club predominantly owned and funded by a sole benefactor
* "that it was the supporterís patience and trust, that allowed me to stand the test of time as your Chairman" - moral for us all there?

Now, there may well be a bit of rose tinted glasses by Mr Hunter when looking back over his tenure and the fact that they are going to Bournmouth in the cup next weekend will help that 'warm glow' but equally there are some valid points in there too.
Title: Re: Stephen Cleeve - Are You a fan Yes/No
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on February 01, 2022, 01:50:28 PM
Interesting comments from the Borehamwood chairman in last weekends programme notes, wonder if SC read them?  https://www.borehamwoodfootballclub.co.uk/uncategorized/chairmans-notes-kings-lynn-town-h/

Couple of quotes to highlight with my thoughts at the end of each.
* "Throughout my tenure Iíve always tried to think of the bigger picture, by improving not only the things the fans wanted on the pitch but also the structures that would allow the club to thrive off the pitch, in terms of an ever-improving facility and a vision that will I hope stretch itself to one day put us in the Football League."  - not putting the cart before the horse
* "When I look back to my inexperienced arrival here in 1999, I have to acknowledge that I failed to improve things on and off the pitch quickly enough in those very early years ... because we all worked so hard together to overcome many of my shortcomings, that I learnt so quickly, and itís a fact that when I did get things wrong which was often, you always stood by me because, as I said earlier, ďgod loves a trierĒ and for that you will always have my eternal thanks" - working together seems to be the message, even for a club predominantly owned and funded by a sole benefactor
* "that it was the supporterís patience and trust, that allowed me to stand the test of time as your Chairman" - moral for us all there?

Now, there may well be a bit of rose tinted glasses by Mr Hunter when looking back over his tenure and the fact that they are going to Bournmouth in the cup next weekend will help that 'warm glow' but equally there are some valid points in there too.

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