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Title: Lynn win
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 02, 2022, 05:16:50 PM
3-0 away win for the Linnets.
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Nigel nigle on May 02, 2022, 05:29:38 PM
Just seen the goals on BT Sport and Omatayo and Charles took their goals well from some poor, poor defending. Lifts the spirits a bit. If only ...

Aldershot had a 10 point deduction
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Saddlerlinnet on May 02, 2022, 06:44:53 PM
Good win pity they couldn't play like this during the main part of the season or when the pressure was on towards the end. No pressure today but perhaps a few looking to enhance themselves in the end of the season shop window -or am I just a cynical old brummie
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: little John on May 02, 2022, 10:13:03 PM
No.....
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: dillydilly on May 03, 2022, 09:22:37 AM
SC and TW appear to have done it….arrived at a team and system that can genuinely compete at this level.  That is a real achievement, considering the low performance level they came from.  What a pity it took so long.  Fingers crossed they are both here next season, and that they can increase our goal-scoring potential, enough to make a real challenge for promotion,
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Mallard on May 03, 2022, 09:33:04 AM
Listening to TW’s interview sounds like Woking were a team of giants, but we were the better ball players.   The Slippery Nipsters won the day
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 03, 2022, 11:31:39 AM
SC and TW appear to have done it….arrived at a team and system that can genuinely compete at this level.  That is a real achievement, considering the low performance level they came from.  What a pity it took so long.  Fingers crossed they are both here next season, and that they can increase our goal-scoring potential, enough to make a real challenge for promotion,

A real achievement indeed. The future suddenly looks a lot brighter.

Now lets hope lessons have been learnt, and that solid foundations are put in place for the future rather than trying to build something on sand and a quick fix. Hopefully the Club management don't get carried away and try to do too much too soon.

Personally I'd rather go for long term sustainability, even if it means remaining at step 2 for a couple of seasons, and not go for a "flying by the seat of your pants" promotion push, with all the dangers that could involve (and I understand that's a difficult balancing act).

I don't know what our financial state is compared to other Clubs at step 2, but with that 500k loan to service I think its fair to say the Club has a financial hole to dig itself out of. Our gates next season should be higher than many of our competitors but unless they have got similar debts to service, the income we generate compared to many of them will be nullified.

A couple of seasons of consolidation will also give the new Sales Director a fighting chance. He/she has probably got a tougher job than Tommy has! Hopefully the person that takes this on will also be given the chance to prove what they can build, and not be judged on the results after only two or three months in the job. There's lots of bridge building to do there if its going to be a success.

FOTL and Trust now working together, and that appears to be mainly down to the new blood on the FOTL committee, and joint ventures no longer being blocked from that quarter.

Lots to look forward to, despite the relegation.   :scarf:

Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Sam Spade on May 03, 2022, 12:24:07 PM
On getting promotion to National League North, I believe that IC's first aim was not to get relegated and expected to take a couple of seasons to 'consolidate' Lynn's status at the level, reassessing after every 10 games.

In some ways, the impact of the Covid PANdemIC has taken Lynn back to where this plan could be implemented again.

"As you were"
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: TonyM on May 03, 2022, 02:14:35 PM
Now lets hope lessons have been learnt, and that solid foundations are put in place for the future rather than trying to build something on sand and a quick fix. Hopefully the Club management don't get carried away and try to do too much too soon.

Personally I'd rather go for long term sustainability, even if it means remaining at step 2 for a couple of seasons, and not go for a "flying by the seat of your pants" promotion push, with all the dangers that could involve (and I understand that's a difficult balancing act).

I don't know what our financial state is compared to other Clubs at step 2, but with that 500k loan to service I think its fair to say the Club has a financial hole to dig itself out of. Our gates next season should be higher than many of our competitors but unless they have got similar debts to service, the income we generate compared to many of them will be nullified.

A couple of seasons of consolidation will also give the new Sales Director a fighting chance. He/she has probably got a tougher job than Tommy has! Hopefully the person that takes this on will also be given the chance to prove what they can build, and not be judged on the results after only two or three months in the job. There's lots of bridge building to do there if its going to be a success.

FOTL and Trust now working together, and that appears to be mainly down to the new blood on the FOTL committee, and joint ventures no longer being blocked from that quarter.

Lots to look forward to, despite the relegation.   :scarf:

Agree with all of the above, hopefully the more positive end to the season (relegation was always likely when TW joined with only Aldershot's mid season collapse taking things this late in the season) will encourage SC to schedule in another fans forum.  He has always gone for the quick fix option and encouraged the 'EFL dream' but maybe having had his fingers burnt by two 'difficult' years in the NL, if more fans turned up with comments like those expressed above we might take a different path, appreciate SC might still want to do his own thing, his way but maybe he he will see this as an opportunity to reset.
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Mallard on May 03, 2022, 03:52:06 PM
B&G/Tony. I really hope you are right.  I wonder what odds you would give me on you guys repeating the same thing this time next year.?

It’s the cynic in me but I keep thinking of Spots and Leopards.
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Mallard on May 03, 2022, 04:18:48 PM
SC comes across as a lone wolf.  Have to admire both B&G and Tony for their faith that things will change.  I’d love to know what they are basing that view on.  Can’t be history.

Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 03, 2022, 05:04:05 PM
SC comes across as a lone wolf.  Have to admire both B&G and Tony for their faith that things will change.  I’d love to know what they are basing that view on.  Can’t be history.

I think the word used was "hope".
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Mallard on May 03, 2022, 05:19:16 PM
Bob  or no ?

Your hope maybe well founded  I just cannot see any kind measure from the past that leads you to that conclusion.   If anything quite the opposite.  Look at the numerous false dawns that have been put out there in the past.  Have a read of the programme notes, a listen to the podcasts.  It does paint a sorry picture. 
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Saddlerlinnet on May 03, 2022, 05:44:54 PM
I agree with Mallard.i think the club are in dire straits financially and lack of real assets on the playing side. Unfortunately I can see next season being a real struggle on the field and can only hope the club tries to reconnect with many disillusioned fans. The lack of communication and interaction with the fans has been shocking
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: TonyM on May 03, 2022, 06:02:15 PM
Bob  or no ?

Your hope maybe well founded  I just cannot see any kind measure from the past that leads you to that conclusion.   If anything quite the opposite.  Look at the numerous false dawns that have been put out there in the past.  Have a read of the programme notes, a listen to the podcasts.  It does paint a sorry picture.

Mall, you know what they say - 'it's the hope that kills you'.  In all seriousness, you may well be right and I know of plenty who think the current regime is incapable of change and I don't think B&G or myself have concluded that any, let alone all, of the necessary changes will definitely happen, merely that we hope some do. 

From a personal point of view, the biggest change the club could make, at least in the short term, is developing a better relationship with the fanbase.  This doesn't need to be seats on the board (because there isn't a board) but there are plenty of recommendations in the Crouch report and good practice elsewhere in football (at our level) to draw upon that would benefit both the club and fans.
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 03, 2022, 06:03:44 PM
Bob  or no ?

Your hope maybe well founded  I just cannot see any kind measure from the past that leads you to that conclusion.   If anything quite the opposite.  Look at the numerous false dawns that have been put out there in the past.  Have a read of the programme notes, a listen to the podcasts.  It does paint a sorry picture.


I agree with Mallard.i think the club are in dire straits financially and lack of real assets on the playing side. Unfortunately I can see next season being a real struggle on the field and can only hope the club tries to reconnect with many disillusioned fans. The lack of communication and interaction with the fans has been shocking


Hope springs eternal.

 :scarf:
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Mallard on May 03, 2022, 06:20:22 PM
Saddler

SC doesn’t seem to want to let go of anything and appears to Micro manage everything. Something I find very strange, what with his fondness for comments in program, podcast, Twitter and the Norwich paper, is that he lets the Media department do their own thing. It’s a department that is sadly lacking and miles behind other Clubs efforts. He really needs to take this under his wing and up the game which in turn means there will be more interaction between club and supporters. This is very much the shop window for the Club.  He needs a new window dresser. 

The whole Club needs stripping back and then reassembled.  However SC will probably think that there isn’t an issue.




Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Anton on May 04, 2022, 12:13:06 PM
Most Football clubs at this level struggle financially.  The gates won't pay anywhere near the cost of running a club.  What you need is really good sponsors who are in for the long term and can see whats possable in the future. The problem with Lynn as it is, won't get good sponsors with this set up. From nest season start afresh with better understanding between SC, the Manager and the fans and all who is involved.
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 04, 2022, 05:52:11 PM
Most Football clubs at this level struggle financially.  The gates won't pay anywhere near the cost of running a club. 

I can't see why not, with all these ex League players only wanting £400 a week!
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Mallard on May 04, 2022, 06:56:46 PM
Which ones of those did we get at £400 a pop ?

I guess next years plans and what went wrong this year SC will deal with in his next podcast.   I thought he was doing one every Month.   Not heard one in April.  No surprise really.   
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Blue_and_Gold on May 04, 2022, 07:43:27 PM
Which ones of those did we get at £400 a pop ?

I guess next years plans and what went wrong this year SC will deal with in his next podcast.   I thought he was doing one every Month.   Not heard one in April.  No surprise really.

If he or the Club wants to be involved in such things as Podcasts, they need to be on a regular basis (as is his Norwich paper column), and not just when there is an axe to grind.

Supporters need to know know that they can rely on him/club. Regular communication goes a long way to achieving this. Not saying this is the best route to take but if you tell supporters it’s going to be monthly, then monthly it should be.
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Mallard on May 04, 2022, 07:57:51 PM
Was thinking maybe Malc could do a FOTL podcast to let people know of the functions/fund raisers they have planned over the summer.  Hope the weather stays fine for them
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: AXV on May 05, 2022, 01:11:02 PM
Most Football clubs at this level struggle financially.  The gates won't pay anywhere near the cost of running a club. 

I can't see why not, with all these ex League players only wanting £400 a week!

These ex league players could earn more at the Subway down the road
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Grissles Oleary on May 05, 2022, 03:38:24 PM
Most Football clubs at this level struggle financially.  The gates won't pay anywhere near the cost of running a club. 

I can't see why not, with all these ex League players only wanting £400 a week!

These ex league players could earn more at the Subway down the road

Gold is allegedly on 900 a week? :bankrupt:
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: AXV on May 05, 2022, 08:16:56 PM
Most Football clubs at this level struggle financially.  The gates won't pay anywhere near the cost of running a club. 

I can't see why not, with all these ex League players only wanting £400 a week!

These ex league players could earn more at the Subway down the road

Gold is allegedly on 900 a week? :bankrupt:

32% of his career goals(10years) have come under TW
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: dillydilly on May 06, 2022, 12:10:36 AM
Mallard - The slippery nipsters usually do.  Salah, Mane, Diaz, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta  !  Sign ‘em up !  No seriously, we are at last competitive in most matches at NL level.  We could have a good season next year.  I prefer reality to false optimism, but I’m crossing fingers that we can be optimistic for next season…..  We shall see…..
Title: Re: Lynn win
Post by: Linnet on May 06, 2022, 10:31:37 AM
Most Football clubs at this level struggle financially.  The gates won't pay anywhere near the cost of running a club. 

I can't see why not, with all these ex League players only wanting £400 a week!

Thats  an awful stat about him AXV  So he has only scored 30 goals in 10 years and we signed him?

These ex league players could earn more at the Subway down the road

Gold is allegedly on 900 a week? :bankrupt:

32% of his career goals(10years) have come under TW
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