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« on: September 17, 2021, 11:06:07 PM »
Maybe I am speaking out of turn.
Why's that? Whose turn is it?  
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« on: September 17, 2021, 08:40:18 PM »
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« on: September 16, 2021, 11:26:04 PM »
Replying to Gordon’s post. I remember well, you and Kevin running the club shop etc. and running it as a proper supporters club should be run. The “Friends of the Linnets” is in my view, farcical. Hitherto it appears to have been run like a secret society. I think supporters have now begun to realise that “investing” any money into the club is putting good money after bad. The current owner has saddled the club with unmanageable debt. In my view it is delusional to think that a small sum raised by a few supporters will make any difference. Using the fans as a cash cow has, I believe, failed already judging by the poor attendances of home supporters so far. To use a phrase loved by the owner “kerching”, I think might well be exhausted- let me suggest another he might like to use “chickens coming home to roost”.
For all the money raised by supporters the old club still went pop with huge debts to HMRC (and probably others) and that was playing at a lower level than we are now and without a pandemic to tip them over the edge. It looks like we have always seemed to attract owners who hope that the club is some sort of sleeping giant and if we could only get to step x the fans will turn out in their droves which will justify the 'investment' to get there, unfortunately that doesn't appear to be any more true now than it did under Bobbins, although not sure he did much investing of his own money.
Two good posts, and in my opinion highlights the problems we have had before, and by the looks of things, could be having again. It's a bit difficult to know exactly where we are financially, mainly due to the Carousel accounting being used. However when its previously been said, prior to taking a loan, that we can't afford to pay it back, I think we can all have an educated guess where we stand. No lessons from history appear to have been learnt in Kings Lynn. A "sleeping giant". How many times have we heard that term over the years? Utter nonsense! That term needs consigning to the same heap as where all the other BS is stored.
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« on: September 15, 2021, 05:16:49 PM »
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« on: September 14, 2021, 08:48:40 AM »
I believe we had 40 plus members at the last committee meeting and 75 in the 100 club, the membership is nowhere near enough for a Supporters club but it’s early days. It’s early days so I expect numbers to rise, it’s only £5 to join I would like it to rise to 200 plus then we would have a Supporters Club
I would have thought it would be easy enough to get the majority of people that are in the 100 Club, and who are not already members of the fotl's, to join. After all, its only a fiver.
Maybe its just a case of approaching them individually, rather than waiting for them to contact the fotl's.
Nail on head
Have you got a committee member that deals with the membership (i.e. a membership secretary)? If so, that sounds like a job for him/her.
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« on: September 14, 2021, 08:46:41 AM »
Sounds like a bit of a chicken and egg scenario. If events were to be held, would it then convince supporters to join FOTL's?
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« on: September 13, 2021, 03:39:07 PM »
Covid in Altrincham camp game off.
O dear....  Here we go again!
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« on: September 12, 2021, 09:01:30 PM »
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« on: September 11, 2021, 03:38:58 PM »
I believe we had 40 plus members at the last committee meeting and 75 in the 100 club, the membership is nowhere near enough for a Supporters club but it’s early days. It’s early days so I expect numbers to rise, it’s only £5 to join I would like it to rise to 200 plus then we would have a Supporters Club
I would have thought it would be easy enough to get the majority of people that are in the 100 Club, and who are not already members of the fotl's, to join. After all, its only a fiver. Maybe its just a case of approaching them individually, rather than waiting for them to contact the fotl's.
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« on: September 11, 2021, 03:35:14 PM »
One would hope that the owner has done his sums and knows what is needed to compete at this level and indeed where the funds would come from to support it.
Here’s a few ideas what he maybe looking toward.
FA Cup run
NL payment ( each season)
Outside ‘investment’
His own pocket.
At the outset SC declared his intention of bringing EFL Level to the Walks. Surely as an experienced businessman he has done his homework on how this could be achieved. Or maybe he is just flying it by the seat of his pants.
No CM in the building, admission prices that are seemingly not attractive to some would indicate our owner has other cards up his sleeve to make the thing work.
Having been banging on about infrastructure on here for years, I take no pleasure in seeing where the club now finds itself, off the field at least. Mall, in answer to your question, maybe SC thought that (to misquote Kevin Costner) 'if he built it, they would come' which seems to have been a massive miscalculation, not helped by COVID or the speed at which we progressed from step 3 to 1. Basically there is a core of fans who will go to the Walks regularly, which has probably had a net growth during SC's tenure (up to maybe around 800-1000?), plus there is a much wider group who will come to 'big games' or when the team is doing well and there is certainly more of these now that the club's profile and that of the opposition is much higher but just not sure they will turn out if we are in a relegation scrap after Christmas.
In terms of where the money comes from now, the NL payment is already budgeted for and I would imagine SC's 'pocket' is only so deep, personally I think outside investment looks unlikely (unless it comes with a change in ownership) so we are probably hoping for a cup run which would be a welcome 'sticking plaster' but certainly can't be relied upon every season. The underlying problem is that we achieved promotion through financial doping and IC's management and neither of these are now things that can give us an edge at step 1 - there are owners with much, much deeper pockets and/or clubs with much larger fanbases and/or managers of comparable stature to IC which is why the weaknesses elsewhere at the Walks are now more clearly visible imo.
Seems to me we need a few more donations by people that are prepared to sponsor things at the ground at 25k a time, but do not want to have their name disclosed or (as was so in the last case) put on the Stand that they sponsored. I wonder if the Chairman has anymore of these up his sleeve.
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« on: September 10, 2021, 10:38:36 PM »
I thought that when I said members I thought it was quite obvious I meant committee members
The question asked about the total number of members. No mention of committee members was made in that particular post. I thought by your post that you may have been confused, hence my question on the matter. So, there are now 9 committee members (well done). What's the total number of Fotl's members you now have?
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« on: September 10, 2021, 08:18:57 PM »
We are up to 9 members now still need 3 to make up a full committee
Malcolm. Is that 9 FOTL's members in total, or do you mean you have 9 committee members?
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« on: September 10, 2021, 07:29:51 PM »
I thought the Yeovil game was live last year or am I misunderstanding
something. The gate will interesting first game with not as many suppoters#
from away team my guess is 700-900 I hope I'm proved wrong.
I HOPE that you are being on the pessimistic side with that "guestimate" otherwise SC is going to go bonkers with a crowd that small for just the second home game of the season against the league leaders!
I don't think he'll be far out with the higher figure. 900 ish.
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« on: September 09, 2021, 08:33:47 PM »
Tony,
Are you the new FOTL committee member?
In a word, no, but as a member of both the FotL and the B&G Trust I try to support events / fundraising activities as and when I can. Would love to see more fans engaged with one or both organisations.
Thanks Tony. Do you know the name of the new Lady Secretary?
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