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General Discussion / Supporters Club
« on: July 07, 2025, 10:33:45 AM »
Good morning all.

This arrived via a PM this morning.

If anyone would like to respond either on the forum or by a pm to me, I'll be only too happy to pass your interest (or lack of it) on to the people involved.

If you answer via PM your names will not be disclosed. I'll only inform them of the number of people that responded.

 :scarf:


Hello.
I wonder if you can help us please?
A few supporters are interested in forming a Supporters Club with the aim of forging closer links with the club with events and fund raising.We'd like to include the Ladies team and the Academy in this if there is enough interest as we believe these have been neglected in the past.
We have had a very brief chat with someone involved at the club and they liked the idea.
Before we go to a lot of trouble we wonder if you could help us by posting something so we can gauge the interest with the supporters.Would you mind posting for us and asking the question?We don't wish to disclose our names just yet in case there is no interest but all will become clear if there is.
Thank you.

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General Discussion / Re: Fakenham
« on: July 05, 2025, 06:05:25 PM »
1-1 at half time.

Lynn win 4-1.

A couple of goals for Gold.

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General Discussion / Re: New Season 2025-26
« on: July 04, 2025, 02:23:05 PM »
The obvious answer is to allow for pitch prep.

The Fenmen must be ahead of the game on pitch prep then.

Well they should be. Their season starts before Lynn. FA Cup on 2nd August.

As I said, ahead of the game. Good for them.

Plus a few bob in the coffers for pitch hire.

Its all good.

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General Discussion / Re: New Season 2025-26
« on: July 04, 2025, 12:01:17 PM »
The obvious answer is to allow for pitch prep.

The Fenmen must be ahead of the game on pitch prep then.

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General Discussion / Re: Fakenham
« on: July 04, 2025, 12:00:00 PM »
All details are on Fakenham Fc twitter KO3pm no mention of price. No mention of price.


..............but so good they named it twice.

 :laughcry:

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General Discussion / Re: Fakenham
« on: July 04, 2025, 10:58:48 AM »
How much is admission tomorrow

Just checked Fakenham site.

No mention of the game, let alone entrance costs.   :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: New Season 2025-26
« on: July 04, 2025, 10:58:06 AM »
Why are we playing Wroxham at Wisbech?

Is it a marketing ploy to try to convert some Fenmen to Linnets?

Does anyone know the answer?   :phone: :dontknow: :dontknow:

The truth is out there...................(que theme from the X Files)   :laughcry:

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General Discussion / Re: New Season 2025-26
« on: July 03, 2025, 06:06:02 PM »
Why is  friendly with Ebbsfleet on the 26th not on the Friendly list ?
Now on the fixtures list.

Media team must have missed that one.   :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: Trust update 2nd July 2025.
« on: July 03, 2025, 05:44:21 PM »
As a long term Trust supporter and business member, i'll support any decision the Trust makes,  but would like to be kept up to date.

No emails, no letters, no notification about any recent developments so hopefully will be added to the current mail list.

Kev

There is an agreement to keep negotiations between TSI and the Trust board confidential.

Basically it sounds as notification to Trust members is down to when Bal see's fit.

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General Discussion / Re: Trust update 2nd July 2025.
« on: July 02, 2025, 06:39:46 PM »
Although i'm no expert on all the financial matters being discussed primarily by one or two posters isnt it about time the alternatives are considered without TSI involvement. The Trust would not be in a position to take on the Club with all the debt that would come with it even if they had the money would they want to or have the expertise to run it on their own. So naysayers lets have some workable alternatives or I guess you would rather the Club go bust and start as a phoenix Club again.

Naysayers.  😂😂😂

Trust have never said they wanted to run the club themselves. Quite the opposite. They always wanted to be involved with the business community when it comes to being involved with the Club.

Unfortunately having the conditions attached as have been suggested means that won't happen. Even if it did happen initially, it would be on Clubs terms and discretion.The Trust could give their 95k to the Club one day, and be pushed out the next. We have heard nothing about the Trust members interests being protected.

The Trust have always previously advocated sustainable football up to now. They know that playing at this level  is not sustainable and the Club will need more money pumped in, thereby increasing the debt further. It's estimated that another 200k will be needed this coming season.

As questions are being asked, can I ask one? How do you think a 500k DCMS loan and repayment of 500/700k (depending on who you believe) can be serviced by the Club?

Also there have been others interested in becoming involved with the Club in very recent weeks. That's documented so it's not (or wasn't) a case of no TSI, no football.

These other parties being involved presumably wouldn't suit TSI as it would probably mean they would have no hope of recovering their money (if indeed they are legally entitled to it). They are obviously (somehow) holding all the cards at the moment so in the case of any other party being interested, they can dictate on this matter and presumably this would have to suit TSI's (not the Club) agenda.

Basically, other options can't be considered unless TSI grants permission.

Where did you get the idea that anyone would like to see the club go bust and a Phoenix Club formed? You're the first to suggest that. That's just introducing a scenario into the mix with no justification.

No expert on financial matters? Is that really true m'lud?

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General Discussion / Re: He wouldn't, would he ?
« on: July 02, 2025, 05:38:10 PM »
Morecambe owner sacks club board 'to avoid administration' - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c23gp0py2vgo

Of course he would.

Silly money at the root of the problem again.

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General Discussion / Re: Trust update 2nd July 2025.
« on: July 02, 2025, 04:20:30 PM »
This has to be a time, if ever there was a time, for asking searching questions, until as much is unearthed, as is possible. With the information that’s currently available (to the likes of me at least )it appears as if nothing really stacks up currently.

I am just bemused as to why anyone, particularly a successful businessman,would want to throw these sorts of sums at a club in a remote part of a foreign land that has huge debts, little in the way of assets and could still be a way from breaking even. What could the motive be ? To stop all the confusion why not just tell us the motive behind it all and back it up with hard facts. Simple answers to simple questions.


Apparently, Cleeve was a very good Salesman!

😂😂😂

What a load of baloney!

We all know what Baldricks apple crumble smelled like!

Presumably TSI have got a 5 year plan in place. As they are hoping to get the Trust involved (or at least get their 95k), maybe they could share details of that with us all.

That should show how they plan to pay back the 1.2 million plus that the Club owes. Surely there must be a plan (maybe a very cunning one).

With regards to breaking even, it's been said that we are playing at least one level, maybe two levels too high to achieve this.  :dontknow:

Time will tell on this one.  With the history of the club, maybe this could be true.  :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: Trust update 2nd July 2025.
« on: July 02, 2025, 04:13:23 PM »
Obviously Cleeve and his company still own the football club, because approval has only just been granted for TSI to take over the club. Once all the relevant documentation has been completed, no doubt the details at Companies House will be changed. As for the Trust, I dont think they have ever said that all their funds would be used and I am sure that's part of the discussions that will be taking place.


The deal from Bal was for the whole 95k. Always been the case and very well documented. To me, the option of them only having part of it until we have seen their work in progress is an idea that should be considered.

As Bal has asked for Trust money prior to the deal being concluded, I can't see this happening. Thankfully his request was dismissed.

You could be right about why TSI have not taken over the club yet (presumably you mean by taking over Cleeves shares) due to waiting for DCMS approval. However, Companies House should already have been informed who CONTROLS the Club. For some reason they haven't been. Companies House are more concerned with who controls it rather than who owns it. Registering who has control is mandatory and has nothing to do with the DCMS situation.

Look up PSC on Companies House website.

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General Discussion / Re: Trust update 2nd July 2025.
« on: July 02, 2025, 02:18:13 PM »
Typical negative comments from some. Why not wait until all is normalised before making comments or go to the meeting and ask questions rather than speculating on here.

I guess you could say the same things about typically stupid questions by some. If there is anything in particular that's been posted that you believe is unjustified or would like further clarification on, please ask on here and I'm sure you'll be replied to.

A forum is for discussions. If people don't want to discuss or read things then maybe they should reconsider if social media is really for them.

Obviously there is an element of the fan base that would just like the Trust's 95k to be given to the Club irrespective of whats currently going on. Good job that these people didn't get their way earlier and when Cleeve was in control, or all this would be academic.

There are already some major points of concern that need answering right away.  Some big red flags waving in our faces. Hopefully these are being taken into account during the negotiations.

Regarding asking at meetings, Bal was asked two very important question at the last meeting. He side stepped one and gave a ridiculous reply to the other. Why should the next meeting be any different?

People should keep in mind that The Trust are being asked to get into bed with someone they know nothing about, and who gave over half a million pounds to Stephen Cleeve (well allegedly, we have seen nothing to prove that).

Why did a supposedly very wealthy, self made, intelligent businessman want to do that? A vast majority of supporters didn't want to give Cleeve £10 on the numerous occasions that the begging bowl came out. Why didn't they want to do this? Why were they so reluctant? Yet here we have someone not giving £10, but (allegedly) half a million! It's hardly surprising people are asking questions.

WHY? What was the real agenda when Jo became involved? I mean, half a million quid!!!!!!

Supporters should therefore keep asking as many questions as possible via as many platforms as possible, and when they like.

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