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General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: May 26, 2020, 03:26:41 PM »
Michael Gash has committed himself to the club for the coming season.
Gash, who will be 34 in September, signed in July 2017 and has made 130 appearances for Lynn, scoring 36 goals.

Good news for the Club and for Gash.

Think it’s only Kelly, Clunan, Jarv, Richards, Marriot and Gash left to sign ( or not).   Be interesting to see who stays and who goes on 20/30% less money.

You talked that one up Mallard. Norwich Jungle drums been busy this morning?  :dontknow:

General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: May 25, 2020, 03:59:17 PM »

How are clubs possibly going to pay players if some (or all) of the 20/21 season is behind closed doors? 

Tony, that's a very good question and obviously one that needs answering. I would think the simple answer is, that the majority can't.

Some Chairman have said they won't be subsidising their clubs during the pandemic with some saying they wouldn't be continuing to personally fund their clubs beyond this season, even prior to the pandemic. Lets not forget that it looked very tight for quite a few clubs even before this seasons loss of revenue due to no gate receipts.

Even if some sort of miracle is performed for this season, as Phil Hodgkinson has said, people need to worry about what happens after that.

Potentially no income from pre season friendlies, no advance season ticket sales, no (or presumably very little) advertising revenue. And that's all following on from a massive financial black hole from this season.

I think you mentioned a few weeks ago that some Clubs may be looking at some form of administration, as a way of carrying on. I believe that would usually incur a two step demotion, but how can that happen? They can't realistically demote 50-60 clubs!   :dontknow:

It's by no means fun, but it is all very interesting.

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 24, 2020, 08:40:11 PM »

BBC Sport

English football's pyramid will be destroyed unless the game starts to plan for the financial impact of Covid-19 beyond the 2019-20 season, says Huddersfield owner Phil Hodgkinson.

Hodgkinson thinks as many as "50 or 60" clubs could go bust.

He says he is looking at a "worst-case scenario" of no fans allowed in stadiums for the 2020-21 season.

"The problem is not whether we finish [this] season or not, it is what happens after that," he told BBC Sport.

Having previously owned National League North side Southport, Hodgkinson has experience of the hand-to-mouth existence of many lower-league clubs.

"If we don't come to an agreement there will be no football pyramid. There are clubs I know of that are only still trading because they are deferring wages and [tax] and other creditors. They will need paying at some point," Hodgkinson said.

"There is an absolutely real, stark probability that if something isn't agreed now within football to ensure all clubs can pay their bills and get through to the point where income is resumed, you will be looking at 50 or 60 clubs ceasing to exist. Genuinely, I am talking about that many."

'What is football going to do to ensure the entire pyramid survives?'

Hodgkinson says Huddersfield, three points above the Championship relegation zone, want the season to restart "when it is safe", with clubs set to return to training on Monday.

But he says the game "is not looking at the bigger picture", with the main focus being on restarting the current season.

"It will cost each club between £150,000 and £200,000 for testing to get to the end of the season," he said. "But what happens after that?

"We have been told by the government that there will be no large gatherings until there is a vaccine and that is likely to be in 2021. That means football clubs will lose a vast proportion of their income outside of any broadcast money, which is likely to be significantly reduced or clawed back anyway.

"In normal revenue, we are looking at losing between £7m and £10m. The claw-back for TV is going to be £10m-£30m. That is just us. So, what is football going to do to ensure the entire pyramid survives this? The discussion is being avoided. For the next three, six or 12 months clubs are going to have no income."

One solution Hodgkinson has suggested is reducing players' wages at every level of the game.

"The players are not to blame," he said. "But the reality is, the players have to be part of the solution because if clubs go bust, their contracts won't get met anyway.

"They may not like me saying this, but [players' union] the PFA need to put in place salary cuts of between 30% and 50% for all players at all levels until such a time as crowds are allowed back into football stadiums and income streams return.

"These are ideas. They may not be the right ones. But something has to be done because everyone knows what is coming and people are just sticking their heads in the sand.

General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: May 22, 2020, 07:44:59 PM »
Listening ( nearly 2 hours long) to some of Stephen Cleeve’s latest podcast he is suggesting that player contracts will be discounted by between 20-30% next season.  He also was suggesting that there might only be 10 home games in the season ( the reason why he won’t take fans money for season tickets) in a very Limited season.   Reading various articles it seems there won’t much be much, if any lower level Football In this Country before Christmas.

I seem to recall the Chairman saying the Lynn players are not expecting wages until the season gets under way.   So is that much of a big deal to start putting the squad together ?

...........................................when Gloucester's chairman came out yesterday saying he has negotiated pay cuts for some of his players and won't sign anyone on more than they are on this season it does concern me that we are maybe jumping the gun. 

Lower league efl clubs being asked to run on 20 player squad. Looks as if there wil be lots of players looking for new clubs and probably a race to the bottom for them.

Clubs could well be in the driving seat for once. They could now be in a position to pick and choose who they want and what they are willing to pay.  :dontknow:

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 20, 2020, 03:21:55 PM »
Blue and Gold, I agree, but Deeney has a 5 month old with breathing difficulties, so understand his and others with family issues. But Rose, who has suffered with depression in the past, should understand, and his comment last week about "not giving a fxxx about the nations morale" smacks of being insensitive at the very least. Incidentally somebody who met his cousin was told by that cousin that he has always been an opinionated gob****e

Rose was only used as an example as he came up first in the news. There's plenty of others voicing their opinions about Project restart.

I'm also sure that there are others such as Deeney who are concerned about their families, and I can't say I blame them.

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 20, 2020, 01:29:31 PM »
So what does Danny Rose think the front line staff have been doing for the past 7 weeks? Just to let him know that they have been working, many without having tests on a regular basis, like he will be getting. So if he doesn't want to " risk his health for peoples entertainment " then that's fine, as long as he doesn't expect to get paid.

Of course, that's a valid point.

Rose is far from being alone with his opinion/comments.

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 20, 2020, 01:23:45 PM »
As Matthew Syed said on Radio 5 last week - footballers will be working in one of the safest working environments in the UK with all the testing and protocols that have been put in place.  The difficulty will come when some of the players do 'stupid' things outside of that environment which will put themselves and others at risk.

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 20, 2020, 09:33:36 AM »
After watching the sterile fayre served up from the Bundesliga at the weekend I wouldn’t get to excited about the return of Premier League Football.

Danny Rose says Premier League stars being treated like "lab rats" over restart.

Danny Rose believes Premier League stars are being treated like “lab rats” as they prepare to play through the coronavirus pandemic.

The Newcastle defender, on loan from Spurs, said: “People are suggesting we should go back to football, like we’re guinea pigs or lab rats.”

Rose’s comments come as six players across three clubs tested positive for the virus out of 748 in the first wave of top flight testing.

His fears also came as it emerged the Professional Footballers’ Association has asked the Premier League to conduct extra research into the possible effect of Covid-19 on black, Asian and minority ethnic players.

Speaking to The Lockdown Tactics podcast as Phase One of Project Restart begins this week, Rose added: “We’re going to experiment (in) this phase and see if it works or not.

“I can just imagine people at home saying, ‘Well they earn that amount of money so they should be going back’.”

The Premier League’s medical adviser, Mark Gillett, insists the league will be monitoring the risk to BAME players.

He said: “We will do everything we can to mitigate against [the risk] … as more information becomes available.

Burnley confirmed their assistant manager Ian Woan provided a positive test for coronavirus in Sunday's tests.

The 52-year-old was not displaying any associated symptoms prior to receiving his test results.

He will now self-isolate for seven days under guidance from the Premier League, with fresh tests expected to be scheduled for Monday.

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 20, 2020, 09:03:10 AM »
After watching the sterile fayre served up from the Bundesliga at the weekend I wouldn’t get to excited about the return of Premier League Football.

More concerned about my grand kids going back to school and my daughter as a teacher.

If my children were still of school age, they wouldn't be returning. The Authorities could do and say what they want, but my children would remain at home at the moment.

The news this morning is all about the doubts that Schools will now re-open as planned.

General Discussion / Re: Willing Buyer
« on: May 19, 2020, 11:38:06 PM »
Eels on Wheels with Jumbo Mills ?

I thought Jumbo moved to Oz.  :dontknow:

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 19, 2020, 08:28:20 PM » should wait..

I couldn't agree more!

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 19, 2020, 06:39:18 PM »
Meanwhile, back in the Premier.

748 Premier players and staff from 19 clubs were tested for the virus over the past two days.

6 players from 3 clubs were tested positive!

Each club had 40 test kits, and some didn't use their full allocation.

The remaining clubs were tested today with the results back tomorrow, so the figure for positive tests could be higher than the 6 quoted.

Health officials claim its possible that 1 in 400 of the general population of the UK may have (or had) the virus.

According to my calculations, 6 positive from 748 tests is nearer to 1 in 125.

So, for some reason, do Premiership players belong to a higher risk group?   :dontknow:

Have some Premiership players (or their families) been ignoring social distancing and lock down rules?  :dontknow:

If the tests were carried out in lower leagues, would the results be similar?  :dontknow:

Why didn't clubs use the full allocation of test kits, when they have been in such short supply? Are they afraid what the results would show?  :dontknow:

Apparently some players refusing to return. I can't say I blame them!

General Discussion / Re: Willing Buyer
« on: May 19, 2020, 10:56:56 AM »
As most of us are aware, in football there's many subject that are discussed but never actually happen. Then there's the other matters that are mentioned, where the people involved have no intention of carrying them through.

As you say Mallard, good for selling a few papers.

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 15, 2020, 04:58:52 PM »

Your previous prediction of Barrow up, Wealdstone up, with Brackley moving South to allow Bury in the North is not looking to be a million miles away.

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