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General Discussion / Re: Consider this......
« on: March 30, 2020, 10:35:30 AM »
Locked down, so more time to read items from sources I wouldn't usually follow.

I think its fair to say that many are expecting a very different world when the current crisis is finally over (whenever that may be), and not just with regards to football. All sorts of things will have to change and the billions of pounds that is being returned to the taxpayer will obviously have to be recouped over a period of many years to come. How we go about our everday life is going to change and effect us all one way or another, and not just finacially.

I've just read an article by Maidstone Chairman. He seems to have managed to get his head around this to a certain degree.

He is of the opinion that non league football needs to press the reset button. i.e. going part time, as their wil be fewer people buying season tickets, fewer advertisers, fewer sponsors etc. Basically a lot less money available for people to spend on football (and of course other pastimes and even things in general).

He continues by saying that some Clubs have made it difficult for themselves by existing on an owner subsidy for years and now the owners are having  trouble funding Clubs because their own business's are experiencing financial problems themselves.

He goes on to say that there are too many clubs in the country, TV money is expected to be less, so even less will filter down the leagues. The league structure will have to be different in terms of Clubs travelling from one end of the country to another (every cloud.........).  He expects to see Clubs go the wall and when one does, it could have a domino effect.

Doom and gloom? Maybe but imo if this is coming from a Chairman of a Club, this kind of warning as to what we can expect has to be listened to.

If you tie that in with what our Govt , its Officials, scientists and health specialist are saying regarding life in general, then going forward, then things could get even worse as far as football is concerned.

It sounds to me that the lockdown will be extended, with some thinking as far as June. Social distancing could go on even longer, maybe as long as 18 months.

If that happens its goodbye to next season, but by then I suupose we will all have far greater concerns than football and even the individual football clubs we support.

Who knows whats to come. We are entering uncharted territory. If people think that this will not get far worse before it gets better, ask yourself if you ever thought we would be in our current position only a matter of 6 weeks ago?

#stay safe.

 :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:
# Cheer up!

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General Discussion / Re: INCOMING.
« on: March 30, 2020, 10:34:12 AM »
https://youtu.be/JvuLuQmthGY

Some clips of Alex Brown.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 30, 2020, 10:26:42 AM »
Try and keep positive! Things are tough enough as it is without all this miserable guff.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 29, 2020, 08:59:55 AM »
Firstly, I need to say that I am a fan of the Trust... it's ideals and what it aims to provide....
however, I am hugely grateful to SC and what has been achieved under his tenure. It seems to me that the rapid success on the field has in some ways disempowered the likes of the Trust and FolL......the sums involved now in terms of what is required to support a step1 or 2 side are massive in comparison to what the Trust for example can offer.........and at this stage is 」60k likely to be enough to resurrect the club if it went under ?...however laudable the intent ?  If the answer to this is no, then is there a legitimate case for the Trust to reconsider its role ?
You're right: the trust in its current form is a virtual irrelevance.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 27, 2020, 02:07:32 PM »
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For sale,best offer towards club funds.
Perhaps you could use them to raise money for that pint that you still owe me Griss :cheers:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 27, 2020, 11:20:15 AM »
When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, Blame the Trust.

Seriously though, whenever there's trouble at mill, it seems to fuel an anti Trust campaign.
Is this just a smoke screen? to divert attention, only the instigators will know.  But it seems to much of
a coincidence to me.

Stan
 " A few have apparently compromised but the majority have said pay me me what I知
Owed."

I too read that somewhere last night. But tonight it seems to have disappeared. Hmm dirty tricks dept?
"I too read that somewhere last night. But tonight it seems to have disappeared."  Comedy gold Marcus!  :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
A reliable source informs me that the original reference was on the club website at some point so I apologise for doubting the integrity of the person who made the original post: Mallard and also Marcus.
I still don't think that you can assume that players can necessarily afford to take a pay cut, however: life ain't that simple.

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 27, 2020, 11:09:16 AM »
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town-manager-paul-lambert-defers-wages-1-6581320

Nice gesture from Paul Lambert at Ipswich to try to keep others in a job.

 :clap:  :clap:   :clap:
It is a nice gesture but he can obviously afford to do it.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 27, 2020, 09:07:46 AM »
When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, Blame the Trust.

Seriously though, whenever there's trouble at mill, it seems to fuel an anti Trust campaign.
Is this just a smoke screen? to divert attention, only the instigators will know.  But it seems to much of
a coincidence to me.

Stan
 " A few have apparently compromised but the majority have said pay me me what I知
Owed."

I too read that somewhere last night. But tonight it seems to have disappeared. Hmm dirty tricks dept?
"I too read that somewhere last night. But tonight it seems to have disappeared."  Comedy gold Marcus!  :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 26, 2020, 11:22:06 AM »
A few have apparently compromised but the majority have said pay me me what I知
Owed.   Only about 25% of the players will qualify for the Governments 80% wages scheme.  Plus of course the Club will have staff to pay 12 months a year.
What is your source for this? If this hasn't come directly from the chairman then it's no more than gossip which will undermine supporters' willingness to contribute themselves. If you don't have cast iron evidence for this statement then you should withdraw it.

The email trail the club has released on the website.
Would you please post on here what was said as I can find nothing about this on the club's website or the chairman's Twitter.
Admin. Would you please delete Mallard's original post as I believe it is unnecessarily provocative.

And so are you Stan.
Very constructive Jesus!

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 26, 2020, 09:17:47 AM »
A few have apparently compromised but the majority have said pay me me what I知
Owed.   Only about 25% of the players will qualify for the Governments 80% wages scheme.  Plus of course the Club will have staff to pay 12 months a year.
What is your source for this? If this hasn't come directly from the chairman then it's no more than gossip which will undermine supporters' willingness to contribute themselves. If you don't have cast iron evidence for this statement then you should withdraw it.

The email trail the club has released on the website.
Would you please post on here what was said as I can find nothing about this on the club's website or the chairman's Twitter.
Admin. Would you please delete Mallard's original post as I believe it is unnecessarily provocative.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 26, 2020, 07:51:38 AM »
https://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/kings-lynn-town/king-s-lynn-player-s-generosity-1-6577517

This article suggests that the players are being perfectly reasonable.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 26, 2020, 07:47:43 AM »
A few have apparently compromised but the majority have said pay me me what I知
Owed.   Only about 25% of the players will qualify for the Governments 80% wages scheme.  Plus of course the Club will have staff to pay 12 months a year.
What is your source for this? If this hasn't come directly from the chairman then it's no more than gossip which will undermine supporters' willingness to contribute themselves. If you don't have cast iron evidence for this statement then you should withdraw it.

The email trail the club has released on the website.
Would you please post on here what was said as I can find nothing about this on the club's website or the chairman's Twitter.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 26, 2020, 04:32:03 AM »
A few have apparently compromised but the majority have said pay me me what I知
Owed.   Only about 25% of the players will qualify for the Governments 80% wages scheme.  Plus of course the Club will have staff to pay 12 months a year.
What is your source for this? If this hasn't come directly from the chairman then it's no more than gossip which will undermine supporters' willingness to contribute themselves. If you don't have cast iron evidence for this statement then you should withdraw it.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 26, 2020, 04:29:09 AM »
And as I've said before, players may depend upon their income from football. All people tend to spend in relation to their income: mortgages, cars etc. It's all so easy to post a couple of references to players from other clubs offering to take pay cuts and then making the generalisation that Lynn players must do the same! Everyone's personal situation is different. I still don't have any confidence in this line of argument. It's unjustified and will simply discourage fans from contributing: a point that I have made before.

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General Discussion / Re: Food for Thought
« on: March 25, 2020, 12:45:04 PM »
Thank you for taking the trouble to give this thorough overview of the situation. I hope the powers that be read it carefully.

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