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General Discussion / Re: u21/RESSIES
« on: June 10, 2021, 10:04:45 PM »
KES, of course itís disappointing to see old traditions being lost along the way.  I make no apologies for wanting to see them survive.  Thatís what we were use to. 

So with the new U19 squad that will be developed each year will that gap from that level of games to First team Football not be even greater than it would when we had a Reserve team ?

KES you seem a wise old sage.  Help me out here.  I did ask Beard but he didnít seem very forthcoming with the ideas for the  way forward in terms of what is deemed successful.

Apologies, wasnít intentional. What exactly was it that you asked? Iím being lazy instead of finding the post.

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General Discussion / Re: u21/RESSIES
« on: June 10, 2021, 01:12:34 PM »
What I mean is I doubt many NL teams are thinking ďwell we better have a reserve side to keep the community happyĒ. Canít imagine thatís at the forefront of their thought process.

I'm sure your 100% correct on that one. That's nothing to be proud of though.



Itís whatís best for the club at the end of the day and If this is the way forward for them then letís see how it goes.


Maybe. I guess that must be the Owners thinking and personal opinion behind this decision. Desperate times call for desperate measures and all that. Short term thinking as far as I'm concerned though.

Also, its not just a case of players coming through to first team. The Academy is partly living off of the Reserves history. Some of the senior figures involved with the Academy had lengthy and successful years with Reserves which the Academy will now benefit from. Where are the future likes of Stuart going to come from now?   :dontknow:

Reserves were full of local players. The Walks Stadium is a local asset which the Clubs gets at a Peppercorn rent. I bet the other NL Clubs that you mention look on in envy at the low costs that Lynn have compared to them when it comes to Stadium costs. Would the Academy even exist if the Club had to pay full market rate (maybe even the Club  :dontknow: ) For this reason alone, the Club should support local players and have a proper Reserves team.

To be honest Iím sure youíd find 99% of the time a Reserve side is there to support the first team and also to get the experience needed to make the step up. As it stands now, the step  is too big and therefore it doesnít serve much benefit. Previous years I could fully accept that it was worthwhile. You canít just run a reserve side for the sole purpose of keeping the community happy.

But anyway as others and myself have said previously, we donít actually know the longer term plan yet. Just seems to be everyone is instantly negative no matter what happens.

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General Discussion / Re: u21/RESSIES
« on: June 10, 2021, 11:21:04 AM »
I also donít think youíll find many NL clubs who use their Reserves side to be part of the community?

Really? That's a shame then.

At Lynn there has always been a lot of local players representing Reserves. Therefore I would suggest that was at least part of the Club being part of the Community.

You probably weren't around when Chapman tried to get rid of Reseves team, or to see how local people and sponsors rallied around to ensure reserve football survived.

What I mean is I doubt many NL teams are thinking ďwell we better have a reserve side to keep the community happyĒ. Canít imagine thatís at the forefront of their thought process. Itís whatís best for the club at the end of the day and If this is the way forward for them then letís see how it goes.

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General Discussion / Re: u21/RESSIES
« on: June 09, 2021, 10:48:17 PM »
I donít really see it as a fair comparison with some of these names being chucked around. The reserves at the point of say Mark and Dom were at Step 5 and the First Team probably Step 3? Not really the same as National League to Thurlow Nunn Division. The gap in levels is a lot bigger these days.
I also donít think youíll find many NL clubs who use their Reserves side to be part of the community? In my opinion if the Reserves side is of no benefit to the First Team, then explore other options. Which seems to be whatís happening here.

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General Discussion / Re: u21/RESSIES
« on: June 08, 2021, 11:09:07 PM »
Think we just need to wait and see what the official line is, but personally as I have said before on here, I see little point in having a ressie/u21 side in the Thurlow Nunn.......the gap is way too big from there to NL. So to me , having the Academy playing other Academies and scrapping entry in the Thurlow Nunn makes perfect sense.

Completely agree with this re the size of the gap. As sad as it is to see it removed, for the bigger picture itís the right move by the club now theyíre operating at NL level.

Are you saying the rumour is true?  :dontknow:

If Mr Chilvers sources are as reliable as he mentions, which Iím assuming they must be for him to feel confident enough to post about it. Then the rumour appears to be true. But letís wait and see! Could all be terrace talk as they say

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General Discussion / Re: u21/RESSIES
« on: June 08, 2021, 10:39:00 PM »
Think we just need to wait and see what the official line is, but personally as I have said before on here, I see little point in having a ressie/u21 side in the Thurlow Nunn.......the gap is way too big from there to NL. So to me , having the Academy playing other Academies and scrapping entry in the Thurlow Nunn makes perfect sense.

Completely agree with this re the size of the gap. As sad as it is to see it removed, for the bigger picture itís the right move by the club now theyíre operating at NL level.

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General Discussion / Re: u21/RESSIES
« on: June 08, 2021, 09:40:22 PM »
Beardsmore you seem to be speaking as someone very close to the Youth set up so surely you would have been consulted and asked for your opinion ?

Which is ......, scrap it or go with it ?

I went to the trials back in April/May whenever it was. So would obviously understand concerns, but it really wouldnít influence whether I signed mine up or not. Itís all opinions though i guess, some may have the complete opposite view. Iíd imagine if we looked into it, not many clubs at this level have a team playing at that step in the ladder? But could be wrong

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General Discussion / Re: u21/RESSIES
« on: June 08, 2021, 09:26:38 PM »
Based on what youíve just said I personally canít see how removing a team playing at Step 6 is going to influence anyoneís decision on signing up to the Academy? My kids went and it wouldnít affect my choice of whether to do it or not. Of course I do understand what youíre saying about their being no bridge between 19s and First Team, but before everyone starts getting negative, we donít actually know whatís being discussed behind closed doors. Canít imagine it would be done without a plan in place. 

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