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General Discussion / Re: Play off final today.
« on: May 14, 2023, 09:37:11 PM »
How can it be deserved when they finish 24 points behind top teams whats tyhe point in having a league.
I totally agree with you GS50. ProMotion via a play off should never have replaced automatic promotion, but instead should have provided 1 additional promotion. I do wish Kidderminster well in the National League, I just donít think the current NLN play off system is correct and would like to see the top two go up automatically, with the 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th go into play offs. That old mean more teams being relegated from the NL to accommodate.
We got to the NL and because of covid, we were given a Ďfreeí season, but if anything was learnt, it didnít show because we got relegated in our second season. That is the really disappointing thing, because itís so hard to get back.
Iíve watched Lynn since the late 60ís, but do feel very much like you GS, what is the point in playing 46 games and after that you may have to play a team that finished more than 20 points above, or below you to decide a promotion spot. I wonít be watching Lynn next season to the same extent I did this season, unless the play off structure changes.

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General Discussion / Re: Heartbreak for Linnets.
« on: May 07, 2023, 10:53:53 PM »
Our biggest game of the season coincided with our worst performance of the season - we didn't turn up.

However, Kidderminster were very good.

As for the Play Offs....... I have no problem with them - at the start of the season, all teams know the situation, which therefore makes it fair.

We had the chance to gain automatic promotion (as does every club at the start of the season) but unfortunately couldn't quite achieve it.

It's all "if's, buts and maybes" but a draw at home in the Fylde match instead of a one goal defeat, would have seen us champions
No, they are not fair. They should never have been a replacement for an automatic promotion, they should have been for an additional promotion spot. Yes, all teams know how the play offs work, I just think they should have kept the same automatic places and created an extra one fir the play offs. Good luck to Kidderminster, they were the better team today, but we were the better team over the 46 league games, which obviously counts for nothing.

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General Discussion / Re: Heartbreak for Linnets.
« on: May 07, 2023, 09:24:20 PM »
Congratulations to Kidderminster, they were the better team today and deserved to win. Do Kidderminster or Brackley deserve to play National League football next season, no they donít. Teams with the most league points should go up. I wish Kidderminster FC and their fantastic fans good luck for the final.
We have done really well this season, with some great performances, today we were outclassed.

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General Discussion / Re: Kidderminster it is
« on: May 04, 2023, 07:50:14 PM »
If two teams are to be promoted, then it should be the two teams with the most points over the season, the teams that rightly earned their promotion. Thereís no play off to decide relegation. That could work too, bottom team relegated automatically, then have three games involving the 6 that finished above bottom and the losers all get relegated. Not going to happen, because the bottom 4 deserve to be relegated, like the top 2 deserve to be promoted.


Whereas I understand where you are coming from, the play offs have the potential of giving the Club an extra (circa) 10k paying customers through the gates over the three games. Big money spinner for those involved and could even be a bit of a financial life line to some clubs.

Also, it does keep the season alive and gives clubs something to play for. This season has been the very best example of that, with both the title and the play off places still up for grabs on the final day.

Yes, its a bit of a lottery (the same could be said for penalty shoot outs), but its probably the best of the options available.
Yes, I understand the reasoning, however it shouldnít have replaced automatic promotion places, instead it should have been an addition. Have the two, or three automatic promotion places and then have play offs for one additional place. Whether that be from say 4 teams who were just outside a promotion place, or say 6 teams, with the other 2 teams coming from the league below who just finished above the automatic relegation places. That way, one extra team could get promoted, with another team getting relegated. Either way, the top finishing teams rightly get promoted, but the incentive is still there for others.
Ok, subject closed, good luck to the Linners for Sunday. My friend says we will win 2-0, with Coulson and Clunan scoring. I will take that.

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General Discussion / Re: Kidderminster it is
« on: May 03, 2023, 11:11:40 PM »
If two teams are to be promoted, then it should be the two teams with the most points over the season, the teams that rightly earned their promotion. Thereís no play off to decide relegation. That could work too, bottom team relegated automatically, then have three games involving the 6 that finished above bottom and the losers all get relegated. Not going to happen, because the bottom 4 deserve to be relegated, like the top 2 deserve to be promoted.

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General Discussion / Re: Kidderminster it is
« on: May 03, 2023, 08:24:39 PM »
Yep, thatís why you have to ask if the play offs are really fair, 24 points is the equivalent of 8 wins.  Itís County are in the same scenario as us, so if there is any justice both us and County will gain promotion through the play offs. The leagues should have a rethink and go back to the teams that got the most points over the season being promoted.

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General Discussion / Re: Kidderminster it is
« on: May 03, 2023, 05:15:22 PM »
Not guaranteed two more games Mallard, we have to beat Kidderminster first.

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General Discussion / Re: Kidderminster it is
« on: May 02, 2023, 10:07:47 PM »
Both us and Kidderminster are on great form, so should be a good contest. Certainly going to be tough and I think the first goal will be very important. Personally, I donít agree with playoffs, we got 24 points more than Kidderminster, that is huge, but has counted for very little. However, it is the way so we must use our home advantage and hopefully come out triumphant. Should be another good attendance, as Kidderminster will be well backed by their fans, can see it being 3000 plus.
Really hope we can get to the final, albeit Iím away on that day and wouldnít be able to make it. Is Ben Stephens available or not after being sent off. Not sure if it would take effect from the start of next season, or the play offs.

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General Discussion / Re: Title slips away from Linnets.
« on: April 30, 2023, 10:46:33 AM »
Firstly, congratulations to Fylde and I wish them well in the National League.
The play offs are not a fair way to decide who else gets promotion, it just isnít. It should be based on the 46, or whatever it is, league games. Take Notts County as a prime example, if they donít get promoted, it would be a travesty. You donít have play offs to decide any relegation, letís do away with the play offs completely.
Canít see that happening any time soon though. Hoping that Alfreton are our opponents for next Sunday, Kidderminster, like ourselves are on a very good run.

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General Discussion / Re: Saturday
« on: April 26, 2023, 10:03:09 PM »
Yes Linnet, their current form is very impressive. Not lost in 6 and only conceded in one of them.

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General Discussion / Re: Saturday
« on: April 26, 2023, 09:08:43 PM »
Great that Bradford look like winning tonight to keep their hopes alive. Remember they beat us at the Walks 1-0 a few years ago, when we were top and they were bottom. I watched the Curzon v Fylde highlights and have to say that Fylde looked pretty good, hopefully Bradford wonít give them a 2 - O lead inside 5 minutes.

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General Discussion / Re: Saturday
« on: April 26, 2023, 08:21:39 PM »
Canít see anything other than a Fylde win at Bradford, but should they draw and we win, that would see us champions. If it is to be tge play offs, then with home advantage weíve got a good chance, but hope that we would go with a more attacking line up. If Bradford win tonight, they would still have a chance of avoiding relegation, but would need to win Saturday. There wonít be as many there Saturday as there would have been if Fylde hadnít won last night, but would be good to push 1800. I think we will beat Curzon, so maybe Bradford could help us out.

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General Discussion / Re: Curzon Ashton
« on: April 24, 2023, 08:51:48 PM »
Whatever happens on Tuesday itís going to go down to the wire.  Canít ask for anything more than a climax like that at the end of the season. 

If we donít make it then at least we get a 2nd bite of the cherry via the play offs.  Letís hope the Walks is packed for Saturday.
Very true Mallard. It would be great to go into our last game knowing that a win would give us the title, so hoping Fylde donít win tomorrow. I think they will beat Bradford. Our game v Curzon wonít be a given either, but if it was in our hands, then we couldnít ask for any more. And as you say, if it were to be tge play offs, at least we would potentially have two home games. Had we have gotten a draw v Fylde, it would have been so different, shame TW didnít leave a bit earlier.

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General Discussion / Curzon Ashton
« on: April 23, 2023, 06:09:40 PM »
After watching the highlights of Curzon v Boston, Iím confident they can get at least a draw against Fylde on Tuesday. They have now gone 1O games unbeaten and a draw for them v Fylde would take them up to 5th and a play off spot. They scored a penalty v Boston, so hopefully TDH has watched that, just in case.
Our game against Curzon will of course be a tough game, but if they prevent Fylde from winning Tuesday, at least we know what is needed. Would be great to not be involved in the play offs, even with home advantage, I still have memories of Slough, Chippenham and Redditch.

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General Discussion / Goals at Darlington
« on: April 23, 2023, 01:39:14 PM »

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