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Messages - MARCUS ROSE

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General Discussion / Re: Next Season
« on: July 31, 2020, 09:11:40 PM »
Hmm, looks like the "divide & conquer" tactics, re the support base, used by past & present owners is now bearing fruit. 

General Discussion / Re: Awards Ceremony
« on: July 23, 2020, 08:37:36 PM »
Did the Old Bill lay on a dispersal order?  :laughcry:

General Discussion / Re: Champions
« on: July 06, 2020, 09:40:44 PM »
Think if you click on the photo KES you can see that Social distancing has been pushed aside, while the photo is taken.   Difficult to have a group photo while maintaining Social distancing. 

The Lord Napier.... Where the Linnets & their fans drink.,......would make a grab ad in next years Match day Programme  :laughcry:

Just add the photo to the Nap's ad on the Trust website.  Perfect.  :cheers:

General Discussion / Re: Wigan
« on: July 02, 2020, 09:09:00 PM »
Think we can count ourselves lucky that Stephen Cleeve has said he is not prepared to continue to bankroll the club and wants to see it become self sufficient.   I guess thatís why we are getting so many appeals to the fans for funds.


General Discussion / Re: Wigan
« on: July 01, 2020, 08:21:29 PM »
Hasnít there been a couple of takeovers there in recent months from Overseas Investors ?

Only 4 weeks ago, an Asian shareholder increased his shareholding in the Club to 75%, effectively taking over control of the Club.

Club has apparently posted a £9,000,000 loss.

Previous owners sold to current owners citing one of the reasons as being "it was dissatisfied with the loss-making finances of the Championship................".

The current owners have now said something similar, "unsatisfactory financial performance of the club, due to the punishing economics of the Championship..........."

What they mean is,  spent money they never had, trying to keep up with the big boys.  :countingmoney:

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: June 19, 2020, 10:50:46 PM »
I couldnít agree more ,there needs new incentives on how to raise money and new blood is needed to come up with ways of doing it

Over to you Grissles.  :countingmoney:

General Discussion / Re: War Chest appeal.
« on: June 06, 2020, 08:59:05 PM »
People will support the war chest ,only members of trust wonít who would happily see Cleese fail ,I honestly hope trust never get their greedy grubby hands on the club ,Cleese reaches out for support ,trust want shares greed

Do you mean John Cleese AKA Basil Fawlty?   :laughcry:

General Discussion / Re: War Chest appeal.
« on: June 02, 2020, 10:58:46 PM »
If Mr Cleeve wants to copy supporter owned clubs, why not copy one, which last season set a weekly team budget of under £3k. Recruited a squad of hungry young players, who reached 2nd place in their league and turned the clubs finances round. Resulting in a monthly surplus being made, until covid reared its head.  Who's supporters were happy to have a team to watch, with anything else a bonus. Can't see this happening at Lynn can you?

Mentioning Darlington, Gateshead etc is just an attempt to make the appeal for cash, more acceptable to more people.  The figures speak for themselves. Supporters who own, or have a say in the running of their club, are more generous when funds are needed. Take FCUM.  £15k Crowdfunder for pitch improvements, target reached in 2 days, with £32k raised in a month when it ended.
I think the target has been set to high, given that the other appeals since lockdown started, appear to have only reached £5k. There's no harm in asking, but most Linnets have short arms & long pockets.  :countingmoney:

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 15, 2020, 10:29:38 PM »
EFL league 2 vote to end season and use unweighted PPG....if that is followed through to National League then Lynn top of North.Has to be consistent treatment in  N ,S and NL, so can see Barrow, Wealdstone and Lynn going up

"consistent treatment" would surely be all leagues voided, like the rest of non league football.

General Discussion / Re: Venue cancellation
« on: May 09, 2020, 10:07:08 PM »
What are everyoneís views on something I saw on Facebook a day or two ago.

So I was going to have a 40th birthday party at King's Lynn Town Football Club but it was obviously cancelled due to government advice. I asked for a refund and was refused,  but offered to rebook in 12 months. I declined as Iím not working at the moment and the money is more important than a party. After Stephen Cleeve the owner acknowledged there was no terms and conditions they still refused a refund. After many emails back and forth and even pointing out that accoarding to the CMA Iím entitled to a full refund, Iím now being ignored, this maybe because theyíre not there but there was no out of office automated email.
Iím not one to name a shame but it is unprofessional and a blatant flouting of consumer rights.
I have attached a link for the advice from the CMA on the website for those of you affected in a similar way.
I also now feel like I have no alternative to report them to the CMA

What are your views? 

"Investors may not get back the capital they invested"   :cheers:

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: May 04, 2020, 10:41:28 PM »
I'm with Dilly and Mallard.

Draw a line under it all. No promotions, no relegation's.

My view entirely. Solidarity with the lower leagues.

Going forward I feel the governing bodies need to set ceilings for each level of English football. Ceilings for maximum squad wages, ceilings for manager and staff salaries etc and these need to reflect where we are now and where football as just a sport should sit in society.
Even if they only rely on market forces, there will probably be a lot less money around to pay such silly amounts.
It will be interesting to see how players respond to this, and also how Managers will cope when they have less to offer the Players when in comes to wages.

Then you'll see how good the manager really is. But there will still be the senseless Chairman/owner prepared to gamble it all, and more, on 32 red.  :countingmoney:

General Discussion / Re: Chairman's podcast
« on: April 21, 2020, 11:59:41 PM »

The PFA and FA may well be involved in such discussions, but a contract is a contract. The fact that its a football contract makes no difference and they will be subject to contractual law. If FA, PFA and Clubs just try to cancel contracts, I can see the Players, Agents and their Solicitors being busy in the coming months.

Apart from that, didn't the Chairman say only recently that he has always honoured contracts, in and out of the game? If so, I can't see him wanting to break that habit now.

He's put a lot of money into the Club (or is it better to say loaned a lot of money). To have any chance of recouping it, he's got to find a way to keep things going. If there's no income but lots of expenditure, mainly due to the wages of the contracted players he's signed, the option of failing to find a way of financing things until the gates are open again, can't really be on his famous table.

Maybe the investor is still being courted.  :dontknow:

So, unlessThe Chairman has got a trick up his sleeve, is he between  the old rock and hard place?  Does he throw even more at it, knowing he's unlikely to ever see it back again, or cut losses now and say goodbye to the money he's loaned the Club?

Unless players play ball, and are willing to cancel contracts themselves (I would assume the Chairman would allow this to happen) are there any other options? Have I missed anything?

Obviously if we kick-off in September, things may well pan out ok, but I wouldn't put my money on that happening.

"The price of investments and the income from them can go down as well as up and neither is guaranteed. Investors may not get back the capital they invested"  :countingmoney:

General Discussion / Re: Chairman's podcast
« on: April 19, 2020, 07:37:21 PM »
Supporters involved is alive and kicking at Lynn.  Only have to look at The Clubs just giving page to see how many contributed out of an average gate of 1400.

Supporters involvement should be a two way street.   Itís a lesson that needs learning.

Fair play to all who have donated. But 62 people is under 5%.  Not the call to arms the Chairman wanted.

General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: April 18, 2020, 10:53:53 PM »
Also had a listen in to SC.    Seems like he sees the season will not start in Aug.  Plus with Euros next year the season will have to be pushed through at a fair old rate.  Thatís if it gets underway at all.

Makes sense that Lynn wonít sell season tickets without knowing what League, how many games and when it will start.  Makes sense.

Sensible clubs are already selling season tickets for the next season. A valuable source of income in the current crisis.

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