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General Discussion / Re: Chairman's podcast
« on: April 19, 2020, 07:37:21 PM »
Supporters involved is alive and kicking at Lynn.  Only have to look at The Clubs just giving page to see how many contributed out of an average gate of 1400.

Supporters involvement should be a two way street.   Itís a lesson that needs learning.

Fair play to all who have donated. But 62 people is under 5%.  Not the call to arms the Chairman wanted.

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General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: April 18, 2020, 10:53:53 PM »
Also had a listen in to SC.    Seems like he sees the season will not start in Aug.  Plus with Euros next year the season will have to be pushed through at a fair old rate.  Thatís if it gets underway at all.

Makes sense that Lynn wonít sell season tickets without knowing what League, how many games and when it will start.  Makes sense.

Sensible clubs are already selling season tickets for the next season. A valuable source of income in the current crisis.

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General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: April 14, 2020, 08:03:57 PM »
Void the whole season for all Leagues, and be done with it.

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General Discussion / Re: York City
« on: April 03, 2020, 10:50:21 PM »
Same at FC Utd.  Non essential business, under Government guidelines.

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General Discussion / Re: All results expunged
« on: April 01, 2020, 07:52:47 PM »
Void every league from Premier downwards. Show a bit of solidarity with those at grass roots level.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 30, 2020, 08:27:52 PM »
Firstly, I need to say that I am a fan of the Trust... it's ideals and what it aims to provide....
however, I am hugely grateful to SC and what has been achieved under his tenure. It seems to me that the rapid success on the field has in some ways disempowered the likes of the Trust and FolL......the sums involved now in terms of what is required to support a step1 or 2 side are massive in comparison to what the Trust for example can offer.........and at this stage is £60k likely to be enough to resurrect the club if it went under ?...however laudable the intent ?  If the answer to this is no, then is there a legitimate case for the Trust to reconsider its role ?
You're right: the trust in its current form is a virtual irrelevance.

Seems to be a lot of virtual irrelevance about Stanley.  :salute:

https://www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com/features/29789/football-fans-want-to-know-their-clubs-can-survive-coronavirus-crisis/

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 29, 2020, 08:39:38 PM »
Firstly, I need to say that I am a fan of the Trust... it's ideals and what it aims to provide....
however, I am hugely grateful to SC and what has been achieved under his tenure. It seems to me that the rapid success on the field has in some ways disempowered the likes of the Trust and FolL......the sums involved now in terms of what is required to support a step1 or 2 side are massive in comparison to what the Trust for example can offer.........and at this stage is £60k likely to be enough to resurrect the club if it went under ?...however laudable the intent ?  If the answer to this is no, then is there a legitimate case for the Trust to reconsider its role ?

If the club went under, a resurrected club would be nowhere near step 1 or 2. Remember ?  So I think £60k would be more than enough to start a sustainable club.  But this is all hypothetical, as the Chairman has to much too lose, and will not let this happen. It may be the time to reel in excessive spending and try to reduce the deficits. But I can't see that happening either.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 28, 2020, 09:17:10 PM »
Stephen Cleeve wanted donations, loans are all very well but he has  to pay them back!
The aims of the Trust are to "to purchase a stakeholding in the club" not be sole owner.
No, I don't think the Trust could not leap in and save the club but as part of a consortium  they might achieve something, although I doubt if any consortium would want to put in the kind of money Stephen Cleeve appears to doing.

The aim of the business is to facilitate and provide the structure for an affordable, sustainable and enterprising football club in Kingís Lynn.  It will also invite the supporters, the local business fraternity and the wider community of Kingís Lynn and West Norfolk to be stakeholders in the process.  In forming this community based not-for-profit model, the marketing potential would be more lucrative. In order to comply with Football League rules, a Limited Company (Ltd Co) will be formed with a £100,000 share capital.  Fifty percent of the shares (£50,000) will be owned by the Trust, and the other 50% will be offered to ideally another ten investors each owning 5% of the shares (£5,000 each).  These other investors would be known as vice-presidents of the Ltd Co.  A management board would then be formed and would be made up of 5 Trust Directors, 5 Vice-presidents. This model would allow for supporter representation in the running of the football club, and would facilitate the general principles of a Supporterí Trust.  The Trust would continue to operate but would have a more direct role in representing its members by having part ownership of the Football Club. An organisational chart can be found at Annex A.  Financial projections can be found at Annex B.  It must be noted that these figures are estimated and obviously would be subject to change according to arising situations. 

Its all there in the Trust Business Plan 2015. If people did a bit of research life could be so much easier.   :cheers:

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General Discussion / Re: INCOMING.
« on: March 28, 2020, 10:49:56 AM »
On the one hand it could be astute strategic and financial business.
 On the other it could be an act of bravado by the Chairman, designed to keep the faithful on board,
and a two fingered salute to his detractors, and a certain Arsenal season ticket holder.  :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: INCOMING.
« on: March 27, 2020, 11:25:03 PM »
Just Giving fund must be doing ok then?  :countingmoney:

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 27, 2020, 10:02:18 PM »
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/ipswich-town-manager-paul-lambert-defers-wages-1-6581320

Nice gesture from Paul Lambert at Ipswich to try to keep others in a job.

 :clap:  :clap:   :clap:
It is a nice gesture but he can obviously afford to do it.

I would think most people only give what they can afford.  :banghead;

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 27, 2020, 10:00:39 PM »
Far to sensible For your own good Captain. Certainly has been the usual hysteria. Even Trust funders are apparently at it. People who have been there from the start. They of all people should know the Trust cant just give its money away for no return. Whatever the circumstances. Tis a shame there's no football, the Chairmans notes would certainly be interesting.

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 27, 2020, 04:26:47 PM »
When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, Blame the Trust.

Seriously though, whenever there's trouble at mill, it seems to fuel an anti Trust campaign.
Is this just a smoke screen? to divert attention, only the instigators will know.  But it seems to much of
a coincidence to me.

Stan
 " A few have apparently compromised but the majority have said pay me me what Iím
Owed."

I too read that somewhere last night. But tonight it seems to have disappeared. Hmm dirty tricks dept?
"I too read that somewhere last night. But tonight it seems to have disappeared."  Comedy gold Marcus!  :laughcry: :laughcry: :laughcry:
A reliable source informs me that the original reference was on the club website at some point so I apologise for doubting the integrity of the person who made the original post: Mallard and also Marcus.
I still don't think that you can assume that players can necessarily afford to take a pay cut, however: life ain't that simple.

No apology needed Stan.  Perhaps somebody posted the comments in haste, and someone else pointed out the error of their ways. Who knows.  :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 26, 2020, 09:37:34 PM »
When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me
Speaking words of wisdom, Blame the Trust.

Seriously though, whenever there's trouble at mill, it seems to fuel an anti Trust campaign.
Is this just a smoke screen? to divert attention, only the instigators will know.  But it seems to much of
a coincidence to me.

Stan
 " A few have apparently compromised but the majority have said pay me me what Iím
Owed."

I too read that somewhere last night. But tonight it seems to have disappeared. Hmm dirty tricks dept? 

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 25, 2020, 08:05:10 PM »
How much of a circle can this carry on going round? Has anyone actually emailed the trust to see what their position is,or emailed the club? :dontknow:

Old Loopy was a lot better than Stan. :laughcry: Grissles.
all this coming from fc United man hey Marcus ,and thereís me thinking you had deserted lynn for the mancs

Still here Loopy keeping an eye on things.  With a good understanding on supporter owned clubs and sensible sustainable club management.  :cheers:

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