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General Discussion / Re: INCOMING.
« on: March 28, 2020, 12:10:50 PM »
And a certain Arsenal season ticket holder.  :dontknow:

Well at least this person wil be used to paying the highest admission pricee for both clubs that he follows in each of their respective leagues!
 :laughcry:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 28, 2020, 10:49:28 AM »
Taken from Facebook;

So, I feel there needs to be some careful PR work done here before we alienate the core of the club from more people.

A ) We have the issue with the Trust. I understand what has occurred, but there was no need to go public with it. That's just caused more juicy gossip for no reason. I would love a trust spokesperson to make a statement, but feel it won't occur due to risk of arguments and worsening the issue?

B ) The tendency to snipe out in the public forum from our chairman needs, well HAS to be reigned in. You make no friends and make every single team that plays us get "up" for their cup final. Not going to win in the long run and it will make more unfavourable decisions come back to haunt us.

C ) This new signing, whatever has occurred. Buy now-pay once season commences? Buy now, defer wages until playing commences? You really need to get it under control. We look a laughing stock, issue a statement asap.

D ) The fundraising, when combined with above. We are community running a raise of around £5000, when it looks like you just spent £10,000 on a new player? Do you see how this looks to all of us?

E ) Local businesses are scared of you, or your tongue(s) and don't want to "invest" or contribute. I know of at least 3 of the big area companies that want 0, nothing, NADA to do with the club with how "businessly" it is running right now. You need to work on relationships and trust back to them all. Local community workshops, giving back to the community and more.

And now some useful ideas to help save face and be a community beacon of hope moving forward:

F ) GET into Schools and offer a scheme when all schools have a flyer or ticket scheme, "bring a parent". If you bring the flyer to a game, you get £2 off the combined entrance fee for a parent and child ticket.

G ) Offer a school "year" or "class" the opportunities to be ball boys once a month. Competitions like colouring in a team mascot or "guess where the ball is" from a still image, or a "submit a video of your class/school club doing a trick as a team or a warm-up drill /goal from a game" and the club chooses one to attend a game. FREE Press in all the local newspapers, schools will promote it as it's fun and there is an actual prize at the end of it.

H ) Local leagues. Maybe run a scheme where you simply have someone at the club check out local leagues and invite clubs near the top of the tables, or after a big game a free invite to warm up before a game and be ball boys. Parents will pay to attend to watch their kids and you get youngsters "bitten" by the Linnets bug and they may want to come back, again and again. Build up the fan base from early. Heck, sponsor the under 16's cup competition, lads then may wish to follow and come through to the u18's scheme.

I ) Local business weekend. Every 3 or 4 home games. if you work for X,Y,Z - you obviously canvas the businesses in advance, you have a marketing/business team now for this sole purpose. If they attend or pay for a ticket in advance, they get a free pint/soft drink and £1 off entry.

J ) JUMP ON THE KEY WORKERS thing. Offer reduced rates for key workers from the current climate next year. NHS, Police, Fire services, delivery couriers, truckers, posties, supermarket staff? Show a pass and get a permanent discount for the whole season. Local people will adore you for the incentive and you WILL get potential national press coverage for offering the scheme. Show you appreciate them and they will appreciate you in return.

All of these will take man-hours, a few logistics, but come on, we have a rife area here, LOTS of kids playing football and a gazillion parents and adults all looking for something fun to do when this is all over. Get planning and put in the work now to reap the benefits next year. It's not like you can't sit at a computer as a collective and brainstorm it together

Now before you say 'tried it before' people don't respond to it. Well, they will if you do it right, actually take the time to promote it properly. Get things created and made up in advance. 

Before you say  "it means fewer takings" - well £13 x 30 is better than £15 x 0 .... simple business here....

Thoughts?

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General Discussion / Re: INCOMING.
« on: March 28, 2020, 12:18:23 AM »
 :dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 27, 2020, 10:44:42 PM »
Far to sensible For your own good Captain. Certainly has been the usual hysteria. Even Trust funders are apparently at it. People who have been there from the start. They of all people should know the Trust cant just give its money away for no return. Whatever the circumstances. Tis a shame there's no football, the Chairmans notes would certainly be interesting.

I did hear that someone went public saying they were going to resign from the Trust, and was then informed that they were not a member of the Trust anyway.

Why on earth would someone want to say that?   :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 27, 2020, 09:16:15 PM »
Sounds like you want the club to flod

I’m sure new drainage will cope!

 :laughcry:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 26, 2020, 10:00:41 PM »
Dirty tricks Marcus?

Surely not.

Who are you referring to?

Not anyone involved at the Club that would try something like that is there?

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 26, 2020, 09:55:10 PM »

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General Discussion / Re: Reality Check
« on: March 26, 2020, 12:35:28 PM »
How long can the Club survive accruing such debts? Only one person can answer this question.  Perhaps Steven could choose to allay any fears by writing off his Directors loans or at least give some explanation for the size of the apparent debt. It surely must be hard to attract "investors" into a business with such debt. 

He doesn't even need to write off the loans. He could convert the loans into shares. IMO, potential investors would look at that far more favorably and if SC is convinced the Club is viable, then he's lost nothing by doing this.


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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 25, 2020, 09:28:40 PM »
  Plus of course the Club will have staff to pay 12 months a year.

Very few and thats no different to any other business.  :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 25, 2020, 08:47:24 PM »
Just how much is the shortfall ?  The Club seems very loath to let the fans know how much needs to be raised.

 

I presume the shortfall could be varying figure, and depends on if the Players do their bit and volunteer to take a reduction in wages. This would be no different to what many other Clubs have done and many other people in all walks of life have had to.
It's clear that club officials read this forum as they pick up on certain things when it suits them, so I'm sure they would have seen previous comments about this. I do believe that many more Supporters would be happy to put their hands in their pockets if they knew the Players were doing their bit.
So have the Players volunteered to take wage cuts,or has the Club told them they have to regardless ? Are we all in this together or not?

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General Discussion / Re: CLUB STATEMENT + NEW JustGiving Donation Page
« on: March 25, 2020, 05:15:44 PM »
If you loan money, its quite normal for a charge to be taken. Unless someone borrows money with no intention of paying it back, what's the problem?  :dontknow:

This really is no different with the money he has put into the Club in the form of Directors loans. He's not "given" the money to the Club, but loaned it. As he controls the Club, he can take it out before paying creditors if he wants to.

So imo he's done it himself (and before is said, its not for tax resons) but does not want others to do the same.

Why mention Orient?  It was their Supporters Club (e.g. fotl) not Trust!


Supporters Trusts are NOT Supporters Clubs!  :banghead;

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 25, 2020, 01:55:57 PM »
Apparently The Trust Chairman and the Club Chairman have communicated with each other since the weekend.

Glad to hear they are in communication but, as ever, Trust board are bound by their constitution to put major expenditure to the members, something that both the current and previous owners have struggled with.

Correct on both points Tony.    :clap:

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 25, 2020, 01:06:34 PM »
Apparently The Trust Chairman and the Club Chairman have communicated with each other since the weekend.

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 23, 2020, 01:46:30 PM »
Would anyone want to ‘invest’ by buying shares in the Football with a big wedge of directors loans.  ?  Unless Mr Cleeve wrote them off ( or converted the loans into shares).
For those fans without a financial background, could you explain that please?

Basically SC hasn't 'given' the club money, rather he as loaned the money to the club.  All well and good whilst he is the sole owner as we all know we are basically one man's play thing until such time as he gets bored / runs out of cash, no real difference between us and Chelsea in that respect.

What I think Mallard is saying is why would the Trust membership vote to effectively 'burn' a sizable amount of the funds they have raised over the years to buy into a club that could still cease to exist by the start of next season should SC decide to call in his loans?  Personally as a Trust member, I would vote against such a proposal.

Very well put Tony.   :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: The problem football clubs are now facing.
« on: March 23, 2020, 12:19:30 PM »
Stephen Cleeve in today’s Lynn News

We are trying to do a deal with the players, a kind of compromise agreement, but with the government's announcement it may not be needed and we await details.

"Most players are being very reasonable and supportive. Under my watch we have never been late once paying in four seasons so they understand the circumstances."

In that case, I guess the players must be classed as employed rather than self-employed.   :dontknow:

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