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« on: December 01, 2024, 12:59:55 PM »
Royston Vasey FC.
All local! 😄
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« on: November 29, 2024, 10:04:19 PM »
I just hope it doesn’t involved a sale of any assets. Wasn’t it just after Christmas that Adam Crowther was sold to Southend?
I can't see a repeat of last season. This squad is only just strong enough as it is without losing someone. Management will be well aware of that.
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« on: November 29, 2024, 08:48:25 PM »
Great offer has come through from the Club
December games are now on sale with a special Black Friday offer giving you £10 off all adult and concession tickets if you buy a package ticket for both the Scarborough match onSaturday 7th December and Alfreton onSaturday 14th December meaning that 2 standing match tickets will cost you just £14 each!
Great deal for the fans this, unless you are a season ticket holder.
That's a VERY good deal. Chairman must be in the Christmas spirit already.  It's not the usual way he goes about things, and with Jo and Bal supposedly coming fully on board soon and the additional revenue that should bring in, I do wonder why this is being done now. 
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« on: November 29, 2024, 10:09:05 AM »
B & G that’s the sensible approach but when people with lots of reddies come along they turn it upside down and fans expect more especially when the the new money promises or has a vision.
Logically with the current attendance Step4 is probably our level.
Step 4?! We're a much bigger club than the vast majority down at step 4. Step 2 is our level for me at the present moment and we should try to maintain that. Even at step 3 we are one of the more larger clubs.
As disappointing as it is, it would seem that financially we can't afford this level.
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« on: November 28, 2024, 10:28:35 PM »
Kieran whatever you may think about ambition how do you fund a playing staff of in excess of £1m on gates of a 1000. ? You do the math and let’s us know the answer.
There is one club in the National League that turn a profit. The fact football clubs lose money isn’t a new and fresh idea.
Kieran, surely that's the point and what people are saying is actually wrong. Nobody said it's a new or fresh idea, in fact quite the opposite. People are getting sick and tired of a few people playing Russian roulette with the Clubs they have supported, some for decades. It's hardly justification for Chairmen to saddle Clubs with debt and risk it's very survival. I'm sure it is a fact, but surely you don't think it's right and how it should be?
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« on: November 28, 2024, 09:27:08 PM »
Kieran whatever you may think about ambition how do you fund a playing staff of in excess of £1m on gates of a 1000. ? You do the math and let’s us know the answer.
Well Mallard, I keep trying to make it add up and have done for a long time. I keep coming up with the same answer..........you don't. I'll listen to anyone that has got the answer though.
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« on: November 28, 2024, 09:12:27 PM »
I can't believe they played well when I wasn't able to go... anyone fancy paying me to stay away for the rest of the season ??? Price negotiable...
Kidderminster forums have some good comments.  "We were so poor we made an average team look good". Also complaining that they haven't got a decent striker so don't know where the goals are going to come from. Football fans may support different teams, but it sounds as if most think along the same lines.
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« on: November 28, 2024, 08:57:13 PM »
Nothing wrong with being part time and using some local players but you have to have the ambition to go through the leagues otherwise what is the point of having a team.
Yes, strive to get as high as possible without compromising the financial security of the Club.
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« on: November 28, 2024, 08:15:49 PM »
B & G that’s the sensible approach but when people with lots of reddies come along they turn it upside down and fans expect more especially when the the new money promises or has a vision.
Logically with the current attendance Step4 is probably our level.
When will they ever learn?
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« on: November 28, 2024, 07:20:30 PM »
I wonder how many fans would be perfectly happy to see the Club at step 3 with a part time squad, self sufficient in terms of outgoings be fully supported by income. With a locally based team with a locally based Manager ?
Clubs need to learn that they need to play sustainable football. That should be the first priority. Some supporters are deluded enough to think other people will continually subsidise their Saturday afternoons football and pay to keep a club at a level that it can't really afford to be at. People wouldn't run their own household finances like that. They wouldn't run their own business finances ike that. They wouldn't expect their boss to run his business finances like that. Seems when it comes to football, common sense goes out of the window. Why people expect others to pay for their entertainment is beyond me.
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« on: November 28, 2024, 03:56:48 PM »
I'm not usually stuck for words...but what the (insert your own expletive) is going on at our club ?????
Just when it looked like things were getting back on track with Joe, Cleeve is trying to flog our club behind our backs. Or bits of it. Why didn't he let supporters know or speak to the trust ?
And I simply don't believe that such a small amount of debt can be accurate.
And I don't believe that Jo and/or Cleeve paid off thousands of pounds of debt, just to walk away with perhaps just a season ticket and a scarf as a momento !!!
So much for our improved media and Cleeve going quiet now appears to be a desperate hope that buyers won't do any due diligence.
Has all this just been done recently as a quick paint job hoping to cover up the cracks to put us on the market before it all falls down.
And never forget that he has the lease so he won't go quietly...
My take on the questions you raise.
1) His club, not ours. That's been made very clear.
2) The Trust are supporters. One and the same thing.
3) I don't think anyone has suggested that Jo has paid off any of the debts.
4) I guess the wording on debt is accurate when it says only 17k of BANK debt. Other debt is not with the Bank.
5) Media can only go with information they are given. As long as they publish information as soon as they receive it, that's an improvement to what we had previously. If they weren't informed, they couldn't really inform us.
6) It's the Club (Lynn FC Ltd) that has the lease, not Cleeve.
7) Not sure about terming it a quick paint job in an attempt to cover up the cracks as nothing has really changed since day one. Some just choose to ignore things.
Thanks for your help with clarifying some of my thoughts. I'll try to respond to your points.
1) Unfortunately I agree with this one. I was so taken aback that I became delirious and entered a parallel universe where we actually had some control over the club.
2) It wasn't my intention to suggest that the trust members are not supporters of the club. I apologise for my clumsiness.
3) and 4) I agree with your analysis.
5) I agree that the current media setup is much better than it's been in a long time, which is to be applauded. My point here was a cynical suggestion that it has only been improved to impress any potential buyers.
6) Thanks for clarifying this one for me. Could you perhaps outline what impact this could have in the future i.e. post-Cleeve.
7) I'm perhaps sceptical about Cleeve's intentions. I believe that he's trying to create an imaginary club for buyers and he's being shady...at the very least.
6) The lease is an asset of the Limited Company (Lynn FC Ltd), and not a personal asset of Cleeve's. I doubt its of much use to anyone other than someone that want's to run a Football Club from it. I have no idea what value it has placed on it. The lease has been extended (so new investors could be found), so it has got the benefit of a long lease. I would guess the stated book value could be quite high and form a sizeable % of what the Club is valued at. i.e. on paper probably one of, if not the, main assets. The problem here could be two parties agreeing what the true value of the lease (and any other asset) really is. Its true value will be debatable, even with the benefit of the rent being Peppercorn. My thoughts are it will probably be one of the main points during discussions with any potential investors. As with most things, the true value can only be ascertained when buyers and sellers agree a price. Regarding your question regarding the situation "Post Cleeve", that depends why he has become "Post". If the lease reverts back to the Council, who knows what the outcome will be. They have hardly covered themselves in glory in the past, although there is fresh blood in there these days, so hopefully there would be some Blue Sky thinking.
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« on: November 27, 2024, 08:25:07 PM »
I think the very least SC can do is to release a statement on the state of the party. A statement that is both true and factual and one that holds water.
I can’t help wondering how this is affecting Adam Lakeland. In his post match interview it kinda sounded like him and the staff were taking the rest of the week off but would be back in on Monday. Anything to read into that ?
Can we get back to you on Monday about that one? 😄 No game Saturday. Some aching bones and niggling injuries with lots of games coming up over next 4 weeks. Unusual to get the chance to have a few days break, so taking full advantage of how the fixtures have fallen. Makes sense.
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« on: November 27, 2024, 07:51:07 PM »
I'm not usually stuck for words...but what the (insert your own expletive) is going on at our club ?????
Just when it looked like things were getting back on track with Joe, Cleeve is trying to flog our club behind our backs. Or bits of it. Why didn't he let supporters know or speak to the trust ?
And I simply don't believe that such a small amount of debt can be accurate.
And I don't believe that Jo and/or Cleeve paid off thousands of pounds of debt, just to walk away with perhaps just a season ticket and a scarf as a momento !!!
So much for our improved media and Cleeve going quiet now appears to be a desperate hope that buyers won't do any due diligence.
Has all this just been done recently as a quick paint job hoping to cover up the cracks to put us on the market before it all falls down.
And never forget that he has the lease so he won't go quietly...
My take on the questions you raise. 1) His club, not ours. That's been made very clear. 2) The Trust are supporters. One and the same thing. 3) I don't think anyone has suggested that Jo has paid off any of the debts. 4) I guess the wording on debt is accurate when it says only 17k of BANK debt. Other debt is not with the Bank. 5) Media can only go with information they are given. As long as they publish information as soon as they receive it, that's an improvement to what we had previously. If they weren't informed, they couldn't really inform us. 6) It's the Club (Lynn FC Ltd) that has the lease, not Cleeve. 7) Not sure about terming it a quick paint job in an attempt to cover up the cracks as nothing has really changed since day one. Some just choose to ignore things.
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« on: November 26, 2024, 09:45:51 PM »
Lynn take Kidderminster apart and take all 3 points with a 4-0 win at the Walks.
Att: 795
The Linnets leap frog Kidderminster and now sit 4th in the league.
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« on: November 26, 2024, 10:31:30 AM »
Big game for Lynn tonight at The Walks. For those who can’t make it or just can’t brave the weather the game is live on DAZN. So you can still support the Linnets from the comfort of your armchair.
Will you be bringing the Popcorn 🍿?
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