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General Discussion / Re: Ian Culverhouse
« on: Today at 11:41:35 AM »
With the predicament  the Club finds itself in, I do wonder if it would be best to Ďlimpí itís way to the end of the season then look to do a pre-pack deal.   Ok that might seem a horror story for some, however look at the benefits.

1.  Instead of being relegated to step 2 we take a two tier drop and go down to step 3.

2.  All player contracts would be null and void so we could go back to being part time at a level that should be sustainable

3.  We get to write off the massive loan the Chairman has lumbered with for years to come and it all also cleans the books of all the directors loans that are sitting in the accounts.

The downside is of course all the local traders who will be caught up in it all and would give the Club an even blacker name that it currently appears to have.

Shoot me down by all means or offer an alternative

With No.3. If a Pre-Pack agreement was implemented, I would guess that the very sizeable Directors loans everyone knows about, could be reduced considerably before this happened. Pure speculation, but if there is  currently an attempt to repay the Directors loans at a great rate of knots, that could quite possibly be a factor in IC not being allowed to sign the quality of players he wants.

i.e. If money is spent in one area, the same money can't be spent in another.   :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: Ian Culverhouse
« on: Today at 09:33:01 AM »
With the predicament  the Club finds itself in, I do wonder if it would be best to Ďlimpí itís way to the end of the season then look to do a pre-pack deal.   Ok that might seem a horror story for some, however look at the benefits.

1.  Instead of being relegated to step 2 we take a two tier drop and go down to step 3.

2.  All player contracts would be null and void so we could go back to being part time at a level that should be sustainable

3.  We get to write off the massive loan the Chairman has lumbered with for years to come and it all also cleans the books of all the directors loans that are sitting in the accounts.

The downside is of course all the local traders who will be caught up in it all and would give the Club an even blacker name that it currently appears to have.

Shoot me down by all means or offer an alternative

With what we know about the current state of affairs (it could be better or worse than what we hear), and looking at the Club purely as a business, and without the passion of football involved, I'd be VERY surprised if Cleeve and his Accountants don't have this option under serious consideration.

If its going to be done, Cleeve would probably want it completed prior to any of the recommendations in the Crouch report being implemented.  :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: Ian Culverhouse
« on: Today at 09:27:54 AM »
People on social media calling for him to be sacked. Is this the right option? Will that help an already unsettled club ? Is IC holding SC to ransom here Ö doing it on purpose? Should SC bite the financial bullet and sack him? Whoís going to replace a sinking ship? Surely two grown men can put their differences aside and have an honest and frank conversation. Perhaps get Jamie Farr to sit in and play mediator as he seems to be the only one left that the chairman tolerates or perhaps even likes.

I don't think the word "ransome" is the correct term here. He's on contract, and that works both ways. If a big Club had wanted to come in for IC and he was on contract (unlikely to happen now), do you think SC would have let him go without wanting to be compensated?

Yes, IF he wants him out that badly and thinks that will be the answer to the Clubs current problems, then he should bite the bullet and sack him. Has he got funds available to do that? If he has, he'd be better off giving the money to IC and his playing budget.

Who will replace him? Someone capable of managing a side that will almost certainly be step 2 next season, probably still working on a restricted budget, and capable of getting the club back to step one at the first attempt, won't come cheap. If Cleeve wants a quality Manager in again, he'll probably have to match the current Managers salary, and maybe he will be reluctant to do that.  :dontknow: Bascially, the Club probably needs a Step one Manager or above if the Chairman is to continue following his dream.

Regarding two grown men putting differences aside, it would appear they couldn't do this with regards to the Squad. Now it comes to finances and livelihoods, I would guess that its just down to money now, so it does not really matter if the get on or not. Black and white now........"honour the contract or pay me off". That's one of the main reasons people sign contracts.

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General Discussion / Re: Club prices Saturday.
« on: November 28, 2021, 03:12:30 PM »
Jeez!

Do many people still buy newspapers?

I honestly donít think Iíve done that for over 20 years.

Having said that, when I did buy them I wouldn't have ever bothered with that one. Nothing I have read on line in recent years times would make me want to either.

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General Discussion / Re: Club prices Saturday.
« on: November 28, 2021, 01:23:42 PM »
Great pint of Guinness,I feel it went down well, girls done great job. :cheers: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 :laughcry:

How much would a pint cost you in town these days?

About £4.50. :cheers:

Really? Wow.!

I'm way out of touch with such things.

You'll be telling me that fags are a tenner for 20 next!

 :laughcry:

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General Discussion / Re: Club prices Saturday.
« on: November 28, 2021, 12:40:45 PM »
Great pint of Guinness,I feel it went down well, girls done great job. :cheers: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 :laughcry:

How much would a pint cost you in town these days?

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General Discussion / Re: The next 48 hours
« on: November 27, 2021, 10:20:10 PM »
No, he stopped off in a cafť, met someone new and never went back.......... :laughcry:

The amount of times that happens............!!!!!!    :laughcry:

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General Discussion / Re: It's still with us.
« on: November 27, 2021, 09:53:18 PM »
The wearing of face coverings to become compulsory in shops and on public transport from next week.

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General Discussion / Re: The next 48 hours
« on: November 27, 2021, 08:17:02 PM »

Sounds very much like he is going to go.   Whichever way you look at it this season just hasnít worked. The rebuilt was average at best.    He will go down as the top Manager the Club has had.

If he does go then thanks for the memories Ian.


Sounds to me like he's still searching for answers.........which means he's still interested.

However, if after his reflection, he sees the only way forward is to recruit better forwards then..........

I think it sounds more like he's going, or at least would like to go.

A time when a chat with your Chairman would help with the decision, but I would guess if that happened, there would probably only be encouragement to leave.  :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: Today V Aldershot
« on: November 27, 2021, 06:51:59 PM »
It'll cost you Marcus ! :laughcry:

Marcus, a quick tip.

Find something worth a pound, and try and sell it for £20.

Multiply the proceeds in your own head a few hundred times, convince yourself its realistic, and the job is done.

Good luck. 

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General Discussion / Re: Today V Aldershot
« on: November 27, 2021, 06:40:58 PM »
"I'll make this club  better than Wrexham".  :cheers:

How do you intend to do that?   :laughcry:

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General Discussion / Today V Aldershot
« on: November 27, 2021, 04:58:47 PM »
Lynn lose one nil today at The Walks.

A goal on 81 minutes secures the win for Aldershot.

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General Discussion / Re: Aldershot
« on: November 27, 2021, 02:52:43 PM »
Great to read the positive attitude of the local paper.
" Gates continue to dwindle" nonsense and incorrect.
Glad I don't waste my money buying the paper.
So who's set of answers are you taking as gospel re gates.
Southend 2683 good but mostly Southend
Chesterfield 1806 not good enough
Dagenham and Redbridge 859 dreadful
Wealdstone 885 awful
Barnet 1007 rubbish
Solihull Moors 1009 not good enough
Peterborough Sports, local + Gash and Fryatt 1013 pathetic
Boreham Wood 1160 dire
Walsall 1934 pathetic
Wrexham 1070 that mysteriously became 1470, shameful.
To me that is dwindling gates because the damage was done announcing the highest admission prices, sponsor boards trebled in price when the sponsors had been told by email no change etc etc.
No i do not believe most of the media, especially Saturdays EDP but the above figures that are mostly during the better weather so far average 1382.6 and the way the team is performing at the moment there is only 1 way that figure is going to go and thats downwards as in dwindling.

EDP!

You should read, probably between the lines, of the YLP!

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