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General Discussion / Re: Grant money coming through next week
« on: October 21, 2020, 06:52:36 PM »
Isnít the money coming from the National Lottery? Therefore no tax payers money involved?

Taxpayers money is involved as it's a partnership between Government and National Lottery.

Government owns the National Lottery, although its currently franchised out to Camelot, who are in turn owned by a Canadian Teachers Pension Fund.

General Discussion / Re: Grant money coming through next week
« on: October 21, 2020, 06:25:52 PM »
I agree.

I'm all for any Club receiving money so they can survive but 100% against it being tax payers money, especially when there is so much money sloshing around in the game itself.

Are there any restrictions on how the money is spent, or will we see Clubs now splashing out on new signings at the tax payers expense?

Hospitals, Doctors surgery's, Mental health, children with no food during school holidays.........the list is endless, yet our money goes towards football clubs, with the majority of the Clubs in NL having part time players, meaning they have other employment/earnings elsewhere.

Any money given to these fortunate few is money that could go towards the unfortunate masses.

Total wage bill of Premier League in 2020.

This is where the money should come from, rather than hitting the taxpayer.

Manchester United   £332 million   Liverpool   £264 million   Manchester City   £260 million   Chelsea   £244 million   Arsenal   £223 million   Tottenham   £148 million   Everton   £89.5 million   Leicester City   £72.62 million   Crystal Palace   £66.8 million   Southampton   £60 million   West Ham United   £57.46 million   Watford   £45.91 million   Burnley   £41.70 million   Bournemouth   £40.44 million   Newcastle United   £37.96 million   Brighton   £36.21 million   Wolves   £32.65 million   Aston Villa   £23.8 million   Norwich City   £13.8 million   Sheffield United.

A crazy world has just got a bit more crazy.

General Discussion / Grant money coming through next week
« on: October 21, 2020, 12:03:28 PM »
£84k a month for KLTFC.


Chesterfield, Hartlepool, Notts County, Stockport, Torquay, Wrexham & Yeovil will receive the £95k.

Chester, Dulwich Hamlet, Hereford, Maidstone & York will receive the £36k.

How the National League funding will be divided:

7 National League clubs will receive 95k a month.

The 16 other clubs get £84k a month.

5 National North/South clubs will receive 36k a month.

The 37 other clubs get 30k a month.

Clubs will receive payment next week.

General Discussion / Re: FA Cup
« on: October 21, 2020, 10:56:52 AM »
On Notts C Twitter the are showing a Link to KLTFC Streaming. They also mention that they (Notts C) are getting 50% of the Stream money.

Thanks Mike.   :scarf:

General Discussion / Re: Away vs Weymouth (17th October)
« on: October 18, 2020, 12:31:23 PM »
He could have meant he had just finished his dinner!

General Discussion / Re: Away vs Weymouth (17th October)
« on: October 18, 2020, 12:10:28 PM »
Was there a post match interview done from yesterday ?   Normally itís up by now.

When Bev Asher did last weeks interview, wasn't something said about BT's requirement for post match interviews?

Is there a news black out from the Club at the moment? I've not seen anything posted since Marks rather cryptic post at 2.30 yesterday.   :dontknow:

General Discussion / Re: FA Cup
« on: October 17, 2020, 03:14:45 PM »

 When Mr Chapman was in charge he did know the rules regarding F A cup games and if
I remember Rye kick up a stink quite rightly so.

If a season ticket holder was offered a free stream, they haven't got to accept it. That would be down  to the individual.

I think you will find that Rye query was regarding the size of the declared gate.

I also remember the initial response they apparently received from the Club when they tried to resolve the issue before involving the FA.

My understanding of the situation was that when FA became involved, a more realistic attendance figure was declared.

This has nothing to do with streaming. The FA rules on sharing gate receipts are very clear. As mentioned previously, I can't find anything that means these rules should automatically refer to streaming.  :dontknow:

General Discussion / Re: FA Cup
« on: October 17, 2020, 03:02:47 PM »
I would guess those that purcashed season tickets for this season, especially those who also didn't ask for any refund last season, did so as a personal attempt to support the club. :scarf:

With the Club having "top end prices", I can understand that some feel justified in making take take take comments :dontknow: 

I can't see anything that relates to Notts County being entitled to half the proceeds of streaming, let alone the Club having to pay 50% of season ticket holders if they streamed free. If the Club needs to pay another Club due to streaming income then the FA need to make a specific ruling on that matter.

I do agree that Lynn would probably want half of other Clubs streaming income though, entitled to it or not.

16 fans in the 12 man. If that's the case then the Club needs to look into why and who's responsible for it.

Top end prices being started by Chapman. Probably true but completely irrelevant. Cleeve is his own man and whatever Chapman did or didn't do in the past wouldn't even come into it.

The Nap or Live and Let Live can't be blamed for taking advantage by streaming in their pubs. That's no difference to the Club getting use of Corn Exchange for free (the running costs of which both Nap and Live and Let Live contribute to via local taxes). As a businessman, Cleeve will use situations where he can gain an advantage for his business, and the other business owners are doing the same. Nothing wrong with any of them doing that (as long as its legal). As far as the fans are concerned, it could be more of a case of them supporting the places and business's they frequent all the time (e.g. Nap and Live and Let Live), more than a case of them not supporting the Club.

The Club is not the only business that is appealing to their regular customers for their support.

General Discussion / Re: FA Cup
« on: October 17, 2020, 02:28:45 PM »
Just read KLTFC website ref FA Cup rules prevent Season Ticket holders are not allowed "Free" access.

Quote: "Please note that season ticket holders must purchase a stream for this fixture and will not be provided with a free pass due to rules of the competition."

I stand to be corrected on this, but I can't find anything thst mentions the FA saying that free streaming is not permitted. As far as I can see, the FA mentions "access". The season ticket holders would not be gaining access.

I know that free entry into the ground to watch the game,  for season ticket holders, is not permitted, but I'm struggling to find anything that would stop season ticket holders being allowed to stream for free.

Same with opponents sharing streaming income. I can't find anything that relates directly to this.

As said, I stand to be corrected on this so if anyone can find anything that the FA have stated with regards to streaming, please feel free to post the link. I'm sure season ticket holders would appreciate it.

General Discussion / Re: FA Cup
« on: October 17, 2020, 09:11:36 AM »
......season ticket holders will have to pay as they would for entrance to cup games in 'normal' times. 

That's a shame. It's not "normal" times for anyone and the season ticket holders have been generous and supportive enough to buy their tickets knowing what the situation was likely to be with regards to being able to attend games.

I know the Club needs money to survive, but apparently they now know that the grant money is being made available next week, so imo a gesture to season ticket holders would have been well accepted.

Seems crazy that the people who have supported the Club financially, probably more than most, are having to pay for this one off game when apparently there has been some "non essential" people allowed into ground to watch league games.

I feel a different kind of small gesture would have been welcome, and of course some of the season ticket holders may well have decided they would pay for the stream anyway.  :dontknow:

General Discussion / Re: FA YOUTH CUP
« on: October 15, 2020, 10:36:20 PM »
At least Mark Hearle is being proactive and trying to do something for the fans and that might make the club a few quid.

Apparently, this one is down to the Chairman being proactive.


General Discussion / Re: FA YOUTH CUP
« on: October 15, 2020, 06:20:53 PM »
I guess Alive Leisure get the beer money   :dontknow:

Well, yes. The same as other venues that are open would.

General Discussion / Re: Away vs Weymouth (17th October)
« on: October 15, 2020, 03:29:20 PM »
I just think it is sad at how easy a loyal and trusted GK in Alex Street has been dumped to the wayside. By IC and by some supporters.... :dontknow: :dontknow:

Certainly not been dumped by me, and from what I've seen (poor defense in front of him or not), I'm yet to be convinced that Mair has proven that he offers anything more than Pedro can offer.

Good young keeper, and I do understand that its early days yet.

General Discussion / Re: FA YOUTH CUP
« on: October 15, 2020, 02:31:22 PM »
I wonder if because it's "only" a youth game the electricity suppliers let the club have power for the floodlights etc for free ?

Stephen Cleeve, Chairman of Kingís Lynn Town Football Club said ď.........................................Tickets to the screenings can be purchased from Kingís Lynn Town Football Club and the whole ticket prices comes to the club, which will really help with our current costs".

From  the perspective of that point of view, I take it that Alive Leisure (basically the Tax Payer's money) must get Electricity and staff cost's for free too.   :dontknow:

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