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General Discussion / Torquay enter Administration
« on: February 22, 2024, 08:26:09 PM »
When the money runs out.

Torquay United are to go into administration after owner Clarke Osborne said he can no longer fund the National League South club.

The Gulls, who are 11th in National League South, have been owned by Osborne since 2016 after he bought the club from a fan-led consortium.

In his time Torquay have twice been relegated to the sixth tier.

They missed out on promotion to League Two in 2021 after losing to Hartlepool United in the play-off final.

Osborne has also stood down as club chairman and the club is set to be deducted 10 points, dropping them from 11th to 18th in the National League South table, four points above relegation to the Southern League.

"It is with sincere regret that I advise that circumstances beyond my control during the last five weeks have brought me to the position that I an unable to continue financial support for the club and I have today filed on behalf of the directors an intention to appoint an administrator for the club and company," Osborne said in a statement on the club website.

Osborne had kept Torquay afloat - the last set of accounts show loans of almost 4.3m to the club.

It is expected that that figure is likely to be well past 5m with new accounts for the year to June 2023 due soon.

"The financing of football in this country is precarious and can only thrive in the lower divisions where there is either a close collaborative relationship with the local authority, it is a trophy asset or is backed by substantial local individuals and businesses," Osborne added.

"I believe that it needs a fundamental overhaul of its financing structure, rights distribution in the lower leagues and recognition that many clubs represent a fundamental part of the local community and its visitor attractions.

"Ambitious clubs should, in my opinion, be given special status in their push to bring in investment, develop facilities, bring spend and employment to the local economy."

The decision leaves Torquay searching for a fourth owner in less than a decade.

The Gulls got to the League Two play-off final in 2011 under a consortium backed by the money of late lottery-winning supporter Paul Bristow, whose widow Thea eventually assumed full control.

She sold the club for 1 in May 2015 to a consortium of local business people, but they did not have the finances to sustain the club and it was sold in December 2016 to Osborne through his firm Gaming International, which set up Riviera Stadium Limited as its parent company.

But Osborne's tenure at Plainmoor has been controversial.

He outlined plans for a new stadium but they never got any further than meetings and artists' impressions.

Gaming International also owns Swindon's speedway team and his plans for a new stadium for the club have also never borne fruit, while he was also part of a group trying unsuccessfully to build a ground for Bristol Rovers when the club sold Eastville to the furniture firm Ikea.

"He's an absent owner, he doesn't come and watch matches," Torquay United Supporters Trust chairman Nick Brodrick told BBC Sport, ahead of a planned protest against Osborne's ownership scheduled for Saturday's home game with Aveley.

"We are very vigilant as the Trust. We have a strategy group that's been meeting regularly for the last two or three years and we have plans for any particular scenarios that might develop, like administration, liquidation, or whether it might even result in having to for a phoenix club.

"We have plans for all eventualities depending on what happens with Mr Osborne's decisions about the football club."

But, in his departing statement, Osborne was still adamant that a new stadium was key to the club's future.

"The prospect of creating a new stadium and commercial facility was the driver for the investment, the excitement to deliver something truly transformative for the club and Torbay," he said.

"I would reiterate what I have said many times, that Torquay United is blessed with fantastic, passionate support and I am sorry that we have not been able to reach our goal for the club and fans, despite significant effort and investment."

He added: "Now is the time for the club, supporters, Torbay community and the Local Authority to come together and continue on the path to the future.

"I will assist a change of ownership where and when invited. The detailed plans, proposals and related data for the proposed developments will be gifted to the club as will any time requested to assist in the future planning and development."

The club says all money that it earns from now on will be used solely to run the football club adding "legal and administration fees will not be paid from the operational cashflow".

General Discussion / Saturday v Farsley
« on: February 22, 2024, 08:16:44 PM »
Lots of the wet stuff laying around, with more forecast for tonight.

Anyone seen the pitch recently?

Views on Saturdays game being played or postponed?

I know there's time for things to improve but I would have thought it was wet enough already, without todays rain.

General Discussion / Re: Brackley Away
« on: February 21, 2024, 08:48:29 PM »
Have to think the strengthening of the squad is directly linked to Joe having backed the Club.  Last nights result is all down to the new money beginning to bare fruit.
Yes. It looks as if Joe is going to reap the rewards of his investment.

General Discussion / Re: Brackley Away
« on: February 20, 2024, 08:23:43 PM »
no jonny maggerts tonight??

Apparently he's injured.

General Discussion / Re: Relegation battle.
« on: February 18, 2024, 07:20:22 PM »
Jack Charlton:

I couldn't play but I could stop others from playing.

General Discussion / Re: Relegation battle.
« on: February 16, 2024, 05:37:56 PM »
I am a bit confused on the matter of signing a player and then sending out on loan ?

It's speculation in the hope that the player will get better and either a) be good enough for us or b) be able to be sold on. 

Fleetwood did exactly the same thing with Devonport, signed him from Accrington Stanley (who are they?) then loaning him straight to us

With the Academy and the  Under 23's having "a clear pathway to the first team", I must say that it seems a strange one.

Why would we sign a 22 year old player who presumably is not currently good enough for our 1st team, when we must have very similar prospects already coming through the ranks?   :dontknow:

General Discussion / Re: Relegation battle.
« on: February 10, 2024, 06:21:51 PM »
:cry: last time I say whos on a poor run

Yep, it's all your fault.  :laughcry:

I think they were one down and reduced to 10 men, before going on to win.

General Discussion / Relegation battle.
« on: February 10, 2024, 05:37:35 PM »
Southport's 3-1 home win today pushes us back into the bottom 4 and into the relegation zone.

General Discussion / Re: Lynn V Tamworth Live on TNT Sport
« on: February 09, 2024, 03:52:02 PM »
Would imagine Chorley will feature quite quickly now they have new owners.

Boyzone doing several comeback concerts will help fund the Club Im sure.   Love me for a season ?  :thanks:

Chorley subject of a winding up order this week. Wonder if Boyzone were aware before all the publicity?


On Breakfast time this morning.

I thought all the reasons for getting involved sounded a bit familiar. I think all these Clubs must use the same script writers.

 didn't know about the winding up order, so the bits of the puzzle now start to fit.

Thx for that info.

General Discussion / Re: AARON POWELL
« on: February 02, 2024, 10:25:39 AM »
A young Lad from Lynn,that was prepared to play for his home team for no wages for a month. Apparently, partly in order to get some game time but also because he was fully aware what the financial picture was at Lynn.

If he wasn't going to get game time they should never have agreed to take him. It has cost him his own personal money to be with Lynn for the  time he was here.

He must be feeling so disillusioned with the whole episode. 

General Discussion / Re: Grant Holt
« on: January 31, 2024, 04:23:59 PM »
Good for a Club like Dereham to bring in an ambassador/figurehead to take the Club forward.  Maybe its something that our own Club could consider.  Maybe it would attract match day sponsorship to the club.  Something it seems we struggle with. 

B&G didnt you do some sponsorship over at Dereham last year ?

Yes we did. Never heard anything from  them once money was paid. These Clubs need to understand that times have changed. They need to engage with their sponsors all through the season, not just when they hope the sponsorship deal is due for renewal. They need to work with the sponsors to promote their business, not just hope a pitch side board or an ad in a program is enough.

Obviously the more the business earns from the sponsor, the more likely they are to increase sponsorship levels. A case of Clubs needing  to be commercial.

I get the impression it's a bit of a mess down there. Let's hope the Consortium are given the chance to sort it out.

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