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General Discussion / Re: Ronnie Bacon
« on: September 30, 2020, 01:02:52 PM »

...................... and a favourite with fans.

kind regards
Susan Kelland (Bacon)

He certainly was that!

RIP Ronnie.

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General Discussion / Re: Deal agreed
« on: September 30, 2020, 12:28:56 PM »
This is Govt (our) money.

"Football family"?

Where's the Premier League when you need them?

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General Discussion / Re: Deal agreed
« on: September 30, 2020, 12:10:17 PM »
Equally its no good giving a Club like Notts County 30k if their need is £114k. That would be a complete waste of money if a club then still went bust due to being given a insufficient amount from the grant to enable them to keep going. Good money after bad, and money that could otherwise be distributed to the other clubs.
Likewise, does every single Club require the grant money (I'm sure they will all say they will  :laughcry: ). Again, if certain clubs don't need it or they could manage with a lower amount,  there's money that could be distributed among the more needy.

Then there's the clubs who are in such a perilous state due to the way they have run their business and were on a cliff edge prior to the Pandemic. Some have been reckless, hand to mouth, when it comes to spending, others have been very cautious. Should Clubs be expected to effectively support others because of this?

Do NL Clubs get a higher amount than North and South? Again, some clubs in North and South will have bigger monthly expenditure than those in NL.

Very difficult one and I doubt there will be time for clubs to supply sufficient data etc, and for NL to check everything out, so I do think it will actually be granted equally (or maybe an equal amount for NL Clubs, with a different, lower amount for North and South).

Apparently, irrespective of the amount each Club will receive, its being given on a monthly basis. That's the best idea as far as I'm concerned as the money is for survival and to assist with monthly costs. Its not there for more signings or to reduce existing debts.

Thankfully everything will keep going for the moment. Its not cured the Pandemic or solved the ongoing problems of some Clubs spending far more than they bring in. The re-set button still needs to be pressed or I fear we will be visiting this matter again.

Its just breathing space for now!

 :scarf:


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General Discussion / Re: Kings Lynn Town v Yeovil Matchday Programme.
« on: September 29, 2020, 11:04:06 AM »
If anyone has any problems or are uncertain what they need to do, the Club's "contact us" details are below:

By email
General enquiries: office@kltown.co.uk

By phone
Main Office: 01553 760060

Presumably, Mark Hearle is your man.

 :scarf:

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General Discussion / Re: Fundraising idea
« on: September 27, 2020, 09:17:38 PM »
https://www.lynnnews.co.uk/sport/it-should-have-been-a-week-of-celebration-for-the-football-club-and-its-fans-not-this-kings-lynn-town-chairman-stephen-cleeve-9124440/

If there is a programme being produced and available to pre order then why is SC banging on about the game not going ahead unless he is given Gov money, which has to be larger than last seasons average gate and at a higher rate of admission than last season.

Talk of biting the hand that is hopefully going to feed you.

Very mixEd messages coming out of the club.

So if Natonal League say play irrespective of what the deal is, what's the Club going to do? It seems we want a hand out but also want to dictate how much we should get and what basis the grant is calculated on.  :dontknow:



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General Discussion / Re: Fundraising idea
« on: September 27, 2020, 08:23:55 PM »
Seeking market research less than a week before the game suggests this content is not yet in place?

Seeking market research less than a week before the game certainly suggests something!

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General Discussion / Re: Fundraising idea
« on: September 27, 2020, 07:19:39 PM »
In a word B&G no.  I guess they didn't think either idea was able to bring in enough money to warrant the effort involved.

Amazing. I thought the target figure was circa 10k !  :dontknow:

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General Discussion / Re: Fundraising idea
« on: September 27, 2020, 07:06:27 PM »
I would have thought Mark Hearle has sold a lot of advertising for the programme so rather than having to return advertisers monies it makes sense to produce the programme.   £15 is a good fund raiser.  No doubt.  Depends though on ratio of adverts to copy to make it a worthwhile read.   

I suggested going forward? that the Club charges maybe £15 for streaming with an online programme thrown in.  Wonít matter how many pages of copy then with no printing costs.

Mallard, did you ever hear back from the Club management with regards to the fund raising event you put forward to them?

And, any further forward with the Club shirt you offered to buy and raffle (was it a raffle)?

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General Discussion / Re: Fundraising idea
« on: September 27, 2020, 06:33:16 PM »
I would have thought Mark Hearle has sold a lot of advertising for the programme so rather than having to return advertisers monies it makes sense to produce the programme. 

If the Club has already committed itself to the expense of the program and received the advertisers money, its probably even more important for them to sell a reasonable number of programs.

Could well be possible that a fair number would be up for this, but personally would be concerned that £15 could be a bit too much for many.

Would they sell twice as many if it was only priced at £10?   :dontknow:

In future, linking it to the streaming service as Mallard suggests, sounds a good idea.  :scarf:

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General Discussion / Re: Financial help from Govt looks unlikely
« on: September 26, 2020, 12:58:21 PM »
I certainly don't thing that its a case of preferential treatment and I certainly wouldnt be an advocate of that. Not having a one size fits all policy isn't the same as offering preferential treatment policy.

I'm sure many have struggled, and many more will before this is all over.

Of course, some of this is due to current circumstances, but some, just like some NL clubs were probably on a cliff edge, before the Pandemic. Theres never going to be a perfect solution that suits everyone.

I agree that Clubs should cut back to the bare essentials. That will need a massive change in attitude by the Clubs for that to happen.


 :scarf:


Reading elsewhere, it seems the Brighton Chairman is against Premier Clubs putting their hand in their pockets to help out Clubs in NL.


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General Discussion / Re: Gary Setchell...
« on: September 26, 2020, 10:53:49 AM »
Decent Club that for Setch to get back  into the game with.   Good luck to him.

Yep.

Like most managers, he'll probably raid his former Clubs.

I wonder if we'll lose Pedro?   :bankrupt:

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General Discussion / Re: Financial help from Govt looks unlikely
« on: September 26, 2020, 10:52:00 AM »
Hi Kes.

No problem with you not agreeing with me.  :clap:

A basic amount for survival is probably what a majority received. There was always going to be some that fell through the cracks, and that has been acknowledged. It's not an ideal world. Never has been, never will be.

I really can't see how we can have any grant money, on one hand being for a Clubs basic survival amount, and then have the same amount being given to each Club. Surely each Club will have (need) a different figure for the amount they need to survive.

That could be down to many reasons, with some Clubs being the victims of their own decisions.

I do agree that the grant money should be for survival purposes only, but there will be so many variables that need to be taken into account, that unless there has been considerable forward planning by Clubs and NL (unlikely in my opinion), there's probably not enough time to collate all the data. So, one size (or maybe two) will probably be the decision, if and when Grant money is made available.

It would be nice to see Clubs take this as an opportunity to get their finances in order. Personally I can't see that happening unless they are forced into tighter financial controls once this is all over.

 :scarf:

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General Discussion / Re: Streaming
« on: September 26, 2020, 09:10:43 AM »
Agreed Griss.  Itís about time other events were brought into line.  With the R rate seemingly going up daily. We need to be all singing from the same Hymn sheet.

I think that's the point.

It's not so much that Football Clubs should be allowed to do what others are doing.

Surely it's a case of the others being brought into line with elite sports.

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