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General Discussion / Re: The B & G Bar
« on: September 06, 2019, 07:39:12 PM »
They are no longer associated with the club I believe

Shame, hope they still pay for the board?  :dontknow:

Woodfordes were one  of the Creditors when the hotel business went into liquidation, so.... :dontknow:

General Discussion / Re: Link with Gibraltar
« on: September 06, 2019, 09:33:33 AM »
With the demise of Bury last night wouldnt the FA's time be better spent looking at the financial situation of the clubs , and football in general, outside the honeypot of the Premier League rather than worrying about the size of dugouts, changing area's etc. I fear that Bury and Bolton are just the tip of the iceberg and many more may follow. One suggestion , not mine, to help staff and players at both clubs is to play their "scheduled" league match at say Old Trafford and supporters of ALL football attend with all the proceeds going to those hurt financially through no fault of their own! Would be an opportunity to see if the "big" boys really care  :laughcry: :laughcry:

Parliament to launch inquiry into football finances following Bury's demise

Announcing a series of hearings that will be heard this autumn, Damian Collins, the chair of the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee, also backed calls to give Bury the chance to resume in League Two from next season.

Select committees have the formal power to call for relevant “papers and records”, as well as key witnesses, such as the decision-makers from clubs, as well as the football authorities, and has parliamentary privilege, meaning evidence that has been accepted by the committee cannot be questioned in court.

Collins yesterday said the expulsion of Bury was “a tragedy” for fans and the wider community which “marks a failure of football governance”. He also said that the football authorities now need greater powers to intervene when clubs get into financial trouble. “The current owners and directors' test is clearly not sufficient to protect the long-term interests of clubs and keep bad owners and directors out of the game,” he said.

“The issues that have affected Bury reflect a wider and growing problem within the Football League. We have seen similar crises with other clubs in recent years. The committee will also inquire into what needs to be done to strengthen football governance rules in this regard."

James Frith, the MP for Bury North, yesterday asked Collins to host the sessions in Bury and wants fans to be among those who give evidence.

Bury's expulsion currently means that only three clubs will be relegated from League One this season and just one, instead of two, will go down from League Two. However, the EFL is consulting with other member clubs about the possibility of Bury resuming in League Two if there is clear evidence of its future financial viability.

The EFL yesterday also announced a review of its regulations and procedures concerning the financial sustainability of its clubs, which will consider the lessons from Bury and seek to identify changes that help to ensure similar problems are not repeated.

The review, which will be led by Jonathan Taylor QC, who is also leading a separate review of EFL governance, will examine the background to Bury's insolvency and also the EFL's existing rules, notably the owners and directors' test. A series of recommendations will then follow that could come into affect next year.

The EFL has also pledged to co-operate fully with any police or other regulatory investigation into Bury's demise.

General Discussion / Re: National League
« on: September 03, 2019, 03:01:03 PM »
So next season we will be on the Telly.  :laughcry: :laughcry:

You may not have to wait until next season!   :watching:

General Discussion / Re: Post Darlington
« on: September 03, 2019, 01:30:53 PM »
Pssst...., WestLynnMike, rumour has it that there will be sniffer dogs at the gate tonight, seeking out illicit sausage rolls that fans maybe be trying to take into the ground.

You don't need Sniffer dogs...................I can smell a hot sausage roll from a mile away!   :laughcry:

General Discussion / Re: The B & G Bar
« on: September 03, 2019, 01:29:52 PM »

Was chatting to someone in the bar on Saturday who said people were still drinking in the Napier before the match, which I found puzzling.

In fairness Stan we ate in Nando’s prior to the game Saturday.  Simply because the choice of food etc is more acceptable to us than that which is available at the Club..  Does that make us less of supporters because we choose to eat elsewhere ?

I hope you didn't try and bring a Doggie bag into the Ground!

General Discussion / Re: Post Darlington
« on: September 02, 2019, 10:15:51 AM »
B & G, if he isn’t wanted at Boston, is he good enough for us, at our current standard ?  And considering we have Kelly, plus Payne and Carey.....

Apparently, being "good enough" is not the issue at Boston.

Don't worry about it. It was just an observation.

General Discussion / Re: Post Darlington
« on: September 01, 2019, 10:17:42 PM »
Sounds as if George Green could be finished at Boston.

23 year old attacking midfielder.

Could he be one worth considering?

General Discussion / Re: Darlington
« on: September 01, 2019, 12:07:17 PM »
To answer a few points raised here on the segregation issues.

The permanent area when erected will include an area of covered terrace for bad weather and will have entrance/ exit which will be used only by visitors. The permanent area, as most of you know, will be at the Tennyson end of the ground. the area will also include catering and toilets so all will be self contained.

Visiting supporters in the main stand will be housed at the Tennyson End of the Main Stand in a small area of seats divided by a net mesh. The Darlington fans who were in the stand Saturday were senior shall we say and had been arranged with the visitors ahead of the weekend that they would be ok to sit mixed for the afternoon.

The next fixture needing segregation will be Chester in October or any possible FA Cup fixture that may occur.   

Tennyson Road End Mark  :dontknow: :dontknow: :dontknow:

Darlington fans were at The Hospital End.

I don't think Mark was referring to yesterday, but future arrangements when new turnstyles are fitted.

Anyone know when that will be? Have they arrived yet?

General Discussion / Re: Post Darlington
« on: September 01, 2019, 11:54:32 AM »
Was it a last minute decision to rest Marriot as I don't think the team sheet appeared until about ten minutes after kick off? :dontknow:

Yes, I noticed that too.  :dontknow:

General Discussion / Re: Darlington
« on: August 30, 2019, 10:43:02 PM »
Good answers. I recall a nice free kick from Dale Anderson that he bent into the top corner. Not sure he did much else in a Lynn shirt though. The player I was thinking of was Les McJanet. Anyone remember him and whether he played for both teams?

He played for Lynn 82-84 and Darlington 88-92.

Also had a spell at Boston.

General Discussion / Re: Darlington
« on: August 30, 2019, 10:31:45 PM »
Can anyone name a player who has played for Lynn and Darlington? I think I know of one from slightly before my time maybe v early 80’s.

Dale Anderson.


General Discussion / Re: Link with Gibraltar
« on: August 28, 2019, 06:59:18 PM »
Bolton survive as the take over has now completed.

General Discussion / Re: Link with Gibraltar
« on: August 27, 2019, 05:18:14 PM »
C & N Sporting Risks Ltd pull out of deal 90 minutes before the deadline.

Looks as if its curtains for Bury.

General Discussion / Re: Link with Gibraltar
« on: August 23, 2019, 08:39:55 PM »
Seems rather unfair on the Chairman that he should fail a fit and proper test in somewhere like Gib after being passed as fit and proper in this Country.  Surely both are Governed by UEFA.

My understanding is that there were no fit and proper tests at the level the Club was at when it was purchased from Chapman.

My understanding is there are no fit and proper tests at any level, given the financial state of teams at all levels.

FSA statement with regards to situation at Bury:

"The situation faced by supporters of Bury FC is a result of extremely poor stewardship of the club, allowed by the inadequate governance of the game.

The EFL have admitted that they ‘had their doubts’ about Steve Dale’s takeover of Bury but it was still permitted under its current self-regulatory regime.

That decision and the passive disregard for the overspending of the previous owner Stewart Day have created a situation where FA Cup winning, 134-year-old Bury are on the brink of extinction.

Now the debts accumulated under the profligate ownership of Stewart Day are being used by current owner Steve Dale to hold the club to ransom.

The FSA has been providing support to Bury supporters for some months now and we met with Bury supporters yesterday to hear the latest updates on efforts to save the club.

Once again, we offered the continued support of our staff resource and solidarity of the FSA’s wider membership. Sadly, without a credible buyer and willing seller the club may not see out the next 24 hours.

Football needs owners who are ambitious, but that ambition should not be allowed to threaten the very existence of the clubs themselves. The football authorities and in this case the EFL have to take their own share of the blame. Every club in League One is suffering due to the inadequate self-regulation provided by the EFL. Those very same clubs have collective responsibility for their own inaction.

In 2017, the EFL consulted its clubs on tightening up regulations around owners, described on the EFL’s own website as a ‘review of Owners Conduct’ to specifically “address some of the reputational issues facing the EFL and its Clubs.”

This included “the adoption of a new policy in circumstances where it is considered appropriate to take direct action against individuals who fail to meet the standards that are expected of them under the Regulations”.

The policy outlines that it should be reserved for the following circumstances:

A very serious single act or persistent serious acts.
Relating to the operation of an EFL football Club.
Where the individual’s conduct is clearly damaging to the standing and reputation of the wider profession and the game of football.
This policy was due to be put to the EFL Board back in July.

The FSA welcomes the statement made by EFL Executive Chair Debbie Jevans yesterday when she said: “What we need to do is understand how this happened, we have got to go around the clubs and ask them how we can make this better. The owners and directors test shows that a person can run a business in company law but we need to look at what we can do outside of that.”

The FSA has been working for some time on proposals for more effective regulation and preventative measures in football and would welcome the opportunity to be involved in this process of improving the EFL’s regulatory regime. Supporters can make a vital contribution to reform.

Our proposals, which have also been presented to the FA Board, would prevent the situations that we see at Bury, Bolton Wanderers, and other clubs facing similar jeopardy. These proposals have been drafted in the light of the agonising experience of our members and football fans across the country over many years.

The clubs themselves have demonstrated an inability to take collective action against the likes of Steve Dale and in doing so highlighted the FSA’s demand for robust regulation independent of the clubs and leagues.

Once the dust has settled it will be Bury supporters left to pick up the pieces".


Latest update on Bury situation is that a Company called C&N Sporting Risks Ltd have agreed a deal to buy the Club.

C&N Sporting Risks Ltd were formed just over 2  years ago and have two Directors aged 30 and 32.

What sort of deal can be reached when a Club is (reportedly) so many millions in debt, I don't know.  :dontknow:

General Discussion / Re: Website sponsor and GDF Update
« on: August 22, 2019, 07:45:15 PM »
Website Sponsorship
The Blue & Gold Supporters’ Trust would like to express their grateful thanks to the Blackfriars Barbershop for agreeing to sponsor this website for the next 12 months.
We wish their business well and sincerely hope that they see benefit from advertising on this website.

Ground Development Fund (GF) – Update
The Trust has received communication from Stephen Cleeve expressing his appreciation for our fundraising efforts towards the GDF.  He further informed us that he has ordered the additional turnstiles required to meet the new ground grading standards.
He also attached an invoice for the required deposit.
You will be aware that it was agreed that any funds raised in the GDF (£4,052 at the time of writing) would be used towards the purchase of these turnstiles.
To that end, The Trust has forwarded a cheque for £4,052 to Stadium Solutions who will manufacture the turnstile units.
This sum covers the required deposit less the VAT.

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