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Quote from: gs50 on November 28, 2024, 08:24:43 PM
Nothing wrong with being part time and using some local players but you have to have the ambition to go through the leagues otherwise what is the point of having a team.

Yes, strive to get as high as possible without compromising the financial security of the Club.

Quote from: Linnet465 on November 28, 2024, 07:27:39 PM

B & G that's the sensible approach but when people with lots of reddies come along they turn it upside down and fans expect more especially when the the new money promises or has a vision.
Logically with the current attendance Step4 is probably our level.

When will they ever learn? 

Quote from: Mallard on November 28, 2024, 07:04:05 PM
I wonder how many fans would be perfectly happy to see the Club at step 3 with a part time squad, self sufficient in terms of outgoings be fully supported by income.  With a locally based team with a locally based Manager ?

Clubs need to learn that they need to play sustainable football.

That should be the first priority.

Some supporters are deluded enough to think other people will continually subsidise their Saturday afternoons football and pay to keep a club at a level that it can't really afford to be at.

People wouldn't run their own household finances like that.

They wouldn't run their own business finances ike that.

They wouldn't expect their boss to run his business finances like that.

Seems when it comes to football, common sense goes out of the window.

Why people expect others to pay for their entertainment is beyond me.

 

Quote from: Quinn Upstone on November 28, 2024, 01:59:30 PM

Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on November 27, 2024, 07:51:07 PM

Quote from: Quinn Upstone on November 27, 2024, 07:30:02 PM
I'm not usually stuck for words...but what the (insert your own expletive) is going on at our club ?????

Just when it looked like things were getting back on track with Joe, Cleeve is trying to flog our club behind our backs. Or bits of it. Why didn't he let supporters know or speak to the trust ?

And I simply don't believe that such a small amount of debt can be accurate.

And I don't believe that Jo and/or Cleeve paid off thousands of pounds of debt, just to walk away with perhaps just a season ticket and a scarf as a momento !!!

So much for our improved media and Cleeve going quiet now appears to be a desperate hope that buyers won't do any due diligence.

Has all this just been done recently as a quick paint job hoping to cover up the cracks to put us on the market before it all falls down.

And never forget that he has the lease so he won't go quietly...

My take on the questions you raise.

1) His club, not ours. That's been made very clear.

2) The Trust are supporters. One and the same thing.

3) I don't think anyone has suggested that Jo has paid off any of the debts.

4) I guess the wording on debt is accurate when it says only 17k  of BANK debt. Other debt is not with the Bank.

5) Media can only go with information they are given. As long as they publish information as soon as they receive it, that's an improvement to what we had previously. If they weren't informed, they couldn't really inform us.

6) It's the Club (Lynn FC Ltd) that has the lease, not Cleeve.

7) Not sure about terming it a quick paint job in an attempt to cover up the cracks as nothing has really changed since day one. Some just choose to ignore things.

Thanks for your help with clarifying some of my thoughts. I'll try to respond to your points.

1) Unfortunately I agree with this one. I was so taken aback that I became delirious and entered a parallel universe where we actually had some control over the club.

2) It wasn't my intention to suggest that the trust members are not supporters of the club. I apologise for my clumsiness.

3) and 4) I agree with your analysis.

5) I agree that the current media setup is much better than it's been in a long time, which is to be applauded. My point here was a cynical suggestion that it has only been improved to impress any potential buyers.

6) Thanks for clarifying this one for me. Could you perhaps outline what impact this could have in the future i.e. post-Cleeve.

7) I'm perhaps sceptical about Cleeve's intentions. I believe that he's trying to create an imaginary club for buyers and he's being shady...at the very least.

6) The lease is an asset of the Limited Company (Lynn FC Ltd), and not a personal asset of Cleeve's. I doubt its of much use to anyone other than someone that want's to run a Football Club from it. I have no idea what value it has placed on it. The lease has been extended (so new investors could be found), so it has got the benefit of a long lease.

I would guess the stated book value could be quite high and form a sizeable % of what the Club is valued at. i.e. on paper probably one of, if not the, main assets.   

The problem here could be two parties agreeing what the true value of the lease (and any other asset) really is. Its true value will be debatable, even with the benefit of the rent being Peppercorn.

My thoughts are it will probably be one of the main points during discussions with any potential investors.

As with most things, the true value can only be ascertained when buyers and sellers agree a price.

Regarding your question regarding the situation "Post Cleeve", that depends why he has become "Post". If the lease reverts back to the Council, who knows what the outcome will be. They have hardly covered themselves in glory in the past, although there is fresh blood in there these days, so hopefully there would be some Blue Sky thinking.

Quote from: Mallard on November 27, 2024, 08:15:50 PM
I think the very least SC can do is to release a statement on the state of the party.  A statement that is both true and factual and one that  holds water. 

I can't help wondering how this is affecting Adam Lakeland.  In his post match interview it kinda sounded like him and the staff were taking the rest of the week off but would be back in on Monday.   Anything to read into that ?

Can we get back to you on Monday about that one?  😄

No game Saturday. Some aching bones and niggling injuries with lots of games coming up over next 4 weeks. Unusual to get the chance to have a few days break, so taking full advantage of how the fixtures have fallen.

Makes sense.

Quote from: Quinn Upstone on November 27, 2024, 07:30:02 PM
I'm not usually stuck for words...but what the (insert your own expletive) is going on at our club ?????

Just when it looked like things were getting back on track with Joe, Cleeve is trying to flog our club behind our backs. Or bits of it. Why didn't he let supporters know or speak to the trust ?

And I simply don't believe that such a small amount of debt can be accurate.

And I don't believe that Jo and/or Cleeve paid off thousands of pounds of debt, just to walk away with perhaps just a season ticket and a scarf as a momento !!!

So much for our improved media and Cleeve going quiet now appears to be a desperate hope that buyers won't do any due diligence.

Has all this just been done recently as a quick paint job hoping to cover up the cracks to put us on the market before it all falls down.

And never forget that he has the lease so he won't go quietly...

My take on the questions you raise.

1) His club, not ours. That's been made very clear.

2) The Trust are supporters. One and the same thing.

3) I don't think anyone has suggested that Jo has paid off any of the debts.

4) I guess the wording on debt is accurate when it says only 17k  of BANK debt. Other debt is not with the Bank.

5) Media can only go with information they are given. As long as they publish information as soon as they receive it, that's an improvement to what we had previously. If they weren't informed, they couldn't really inform us.

6) It's the Club (Lynn FC Ltd) that has the lease, not Cleeve.

7) Not sure about terming it a quick paint job in an attempt to cover up the cracks as nothing has really changed since day one. Some just choose to ignore things.

Lynn take Kidderminster apart and take all 3 points with a 4-0 win at the Walks.

Att: 795

The Linnets leap frog Kidderminster and now sit 4th in the league.

Quote from: Mallard on November 26, 2024, 09:53:44 AM
Big game for Lynn tonight at The Walks.  For those who can't make it or just can't brave the weather the game is live on DAZN.  So you can still support the Linnets from the comfort of your armchair.

Will you be bringing the Popcorn 🍿?

The silence is deafening.................and maybe worrying!

I hope the 3 of them are getting on well, and without any falling out.

It's far to early in the relationship to do that.

https://thefsa.org.uk/our-work/governance/football-governance-bill/

An 81st minute penalty earns Lynn all three points at home to Southport.


Lynn 1 v Southport 0.


Att: not confirmed (estimated by someone at the game as approx 700/750.  ).

3 games postponed in NLN today. Lynn move up to 6th in the table

Quote from: happymondays on November 23, 2024, 01:56:42 PM
Is the first step to get everything correct in the football club locally before we go global

What's the point in doing that? 🤣

Quote from: Mallard on November 23, 2024, 10:07:30 AM
Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water..

He's back.  Oh dear.  Lots more wonderful ideas on the horizon.  I guess  the new money spinner that SC had that was going to make us self sufficient and the summer concerts idea have now been superseded by the latest brainwaves.   Always cake tomorrow.

....and he wonders why people are suspicious of anything he says.

Doubting Thomas?

🤣

Quote from: MARCUS ROSE on November 23, 2024, 08:34:39 AM
From sleeping giant to globally renowned then. I hope being sustainable means paying the Covid loan(s) back. That would be a statement of intent. More important than throwing money at SC's dream of getting into the football league, in my opinion.

Are you one of those conspiracy theorist Cleeve refers to Marcus?



You raise a good point. I wonder how many Clubs are not currently paying back the taxpayers money that they had in COVID loans? 

Not a lot of meat on the bones in the article which is a bit disappointing, even if not surprising.

The new Commercial guy has been at the walks for a few weeks now, but not been officially announced. What's the hold up with that one?

 

Quote from: rod on November 22, 2024, 03:59:50 PM

Quote from: Blue_and_Gold on November 21, 2024, 10:54:12 PM

Quote from: Backie9 on November 21, 2024, 10:39:36 PM
Joe definitely exists I met him 
See you all Saturday.
Up the Lynn.

That's nice to hear. Thx for that.

Have you been informed of what role he will be playing at the Club?

e.g. Owner/part owner/sponsor?

Will he (or his right hand man) be actively involved in the day to day running of the Club?

Will he now have overall control with regards to final  decision making?

Or, have we got to wait for Saturdays EDP to find out what's happening?

Unsurprisingly. the silence is deafening?

EDP tomorrow.