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General Discussion / Dover
« on: Today at 02:13:50 PM »
Not the sort of statement you want to see from any club:
http://www.doverathletic.com/news/statement-from-chairman/

Worrying thing is we don't really know how much of this has been brought on by COVID and how much was there beforehand but, either way, I don't think we can be anything but concerned for football at steps 1 & 2 (where there are 'substantial' wages but very little non-match day income)

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General Discussion / Re: Ground Improvements
« on: Today at 01:39:40 PM »
No offence to contributors on this forum as they all have the stability and progress of the club at heart.  However, I don’t believe that schemes such as cigarette-style cards of the players, photo-ops, etc., would appeal to the wider area of people that we should now be able to interest and attract.

Not unreasonable and a fair indication of where we are and the sorts of funds necessary to maintain that level

SC has run this club better than any other Chairman, and in a way that a fan-rum club would never be able to better. 

Wholly debatable statement and whilst you could argue that given who SC is up against (Dolimore, Bobbins, Chapman et al) makes that title slightly irrelevant, I really don't think we have a model that many would want to emulate (unless you are from Histon, Lowestoft, etc)

We should now be able to attract people who in the past would never have thought of coming to a game, and that is where our attentions should be aimed.  We therefore need reps for all the villages to round up and enthuse new supporters, and THAT is where our efforts should be made to help finance the club.  We must think bigger.....

Whilst the football on offer next season will be the highest standard many of us will have witnessed at the Walks (if fans are able to watch) that doesn't mean the club has a right to expect that fans 'should' come.  Many times in the past a successful side at a lower level has had attendances comparable or better then the following, less successful, season at a higher level.  Tickets have been prices at the upper end of what 'neutrals' might expect to pay to watch NL standard football so generating bigger attendances won't be easy, although I would agree that isn't a reason not aim for them.  A couple of seasons ago there were posters available for 'this months fixtures', maybe something similar could be arranged for this season and your 'village reps' could make sure they are put up around West Norfolk?  Personally I don't know what more can be done - Lynn News/YLP/EDP have good coverage, Radio Norfolk does an excellent job and KLFM cover the Linnets as much as any other sporting side so how do you attract that floating football fan?


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General Discussion / Re: Ground Improvements
« on: Today at 01:17:45 PM »
We are already a fan run club as the bulk of the money taken to run the club is taken from the fans!

Obviously this was partially tongue in cheek but we are a long, long way from fan run / fan owned.  Paying an entrance fee for a product (in any walk of life) is far removed from investing and shouldn't ever really be seen as equivalent, it certainly isn't at truely 'fan run' clubs.  I would also question your definition of 'bulk' as I think the model SC is working to, unfortunately, needs a fair chunk of money from him every season.

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General Discussion / Re: Ground Improvements
« on: Today at 01:13:29 PM »
Kes.

The Trust has a membership of around 80 people. That's all.

If you combine the number of people that have purchased tickets, and also contributed to the purchase of the ticket (i.e. so the cost of the season ticket prize does not have to be taken from the raffle ticket sales), that also gives you a figure of around 80. They may or may not be the same 80.

Compare this number to the amount of individuals that contributed to the Clubs/Fotl's last two fund raising efforts..........and they have 1400 regular supporters to go at.

More beneficial making a small donation to the Club (although its down to the individuals how they donate their own money)? Whys that? What can be more beneficial than 100"% of the Trusts season ticket raffle money raised going to the Club? Even the cost of the prize has been taken care of by kind donations.

Low key, when it can be argued that there's been a 100% take up?   :laughcry:

If the Club and their FOTL could repeat such success, then maybe things could start going in the right direction.
 :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:

B&G, just to pick you up on this, why do would you consider the Season Ticket raffle a success at 67 when it is open to anyone ie all of the 1400 average gate, in the same way as any club / FotL fundraiser?  Maybe this is part of the problem with certain sections of the fan base immediately dismissing any fundraising effort by a particular group when in fact we should all have a similar ultimate goal - the success of KLTFC (appreciate it isn't quite as simple as that as 'success' will be different for different people)

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General Discussion / Re: Ground Improvements
« on: August 02, 2020, 12:51:48 PM »
...Second, the Trust's season ticket scheme....rather low key, no real target too low aspiration level if 66 is deemed good...heck that's a profit of around £300....come on it's National League, not Sunday League ! Have considered making it 67 B and G and then giving ticket back if I win, but even tho hard up, think some small donation to the club might be more beneficial.

Not sure there was 'a target' as such and whilst I would love to see the entrants in the hundreds you appear to have given an answer as to why that isn't the case.  Just for info, currently the raffle is set to generate £660 towards the Ground Development Fund (the price of the ticket was raised from donations by businesses / individuals)

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General Discussion / Re: Ground Improvements
« on: August 02, 2020, 12:38:16 PM »
Agree with Mallard.  I’m speaking from a position of hypocrisy, but I believe the problem is psychological.  If I or perhaps many of the “reluctants” saw the money going in from a scheme starting to make a real difference to potential, then we’d chip in with decent sums.  However, if the number of participants and therefore input stays low, it feels psychologically that we might be throwing our hard earned down a hole.  More hypocrisy from me there, because mine is no longer hard earned as I’m retired !

Dilly, given the wide range of fund raising schemes that have been tried in the past couple of season, if you are still 'reluctant' (and I appreciate you are in a sizable majority here), I really don't think it is down to 'making a difference' as some of the schemes have been very specific:
   * supporters collection for frost protection cover - how much more specific can you get but still didn't raise half the cost with bucket collections
   * Ground Development Fund - funds protected in a separate bank account, only spent on specific items to improve the Walks as per FA ground grading requirements, track record of raising and spending the money as stated but still very little take up from fans
   * 12th man - all funds supposedly going to player budget, effectively a 'win bonus' scheme but not much of an incentive for the squad to share £65 for a win

I don't have an answer, a few hunches as to why people don't support the various schemes, but I think this could be a 'make or break' season for both fans and the current owner, he has chosen to run the club 'his way' but doesn't appear to have the funds to carry this on indefinitely so maybe a case of him having to change his MO or the fans changing their collective view of what is required to watch the club play at step 1 / 2 of the pyramid.

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General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: August 01, 2020, 05:02:44 PM »
King started 32 games in a curtailed season Tony.  Scoring 7 goals.  I’d take that from a midfield player.    First hand experience of the National League as well.

Like you say all about opinions

Henderson 7 from 27 league starts, although appreciate that was in a lower league but would you bring in a player with 'questions' concerning his fitness to effectively replace a player who was named in the NLN side of the season?  Can't see how you can fit both in the starting 11 plus we have Loza, Kelly and Carey in that area.  We can only put 11 on the pitch and however much we might like to have 'options' they all have to be paid for somehow and I think we need a centre half first.

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General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: August 01, 2020, 04:16:10 PM »
Cameron King on Twitter saying he is leaving Halifax, general impression on their forum seems to be however good he was when he did play, they might be better off / more settled without a player not able to play a full 90mins / two games in a week (particularly with a shortened season and more midweek fixtures).  Will we take a chance on him?  Personally I don't think there is a place in the squad with what we currently have and gaps elsewhere but appreciate others may see things differently

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General Discussion / Re: Next Season
« on: August 01, 2020, 02:16:44 PM »
Probably a fair point Marcus, although somehow it has always seemed that the owners were pushing on an open door on this front.  The key question is how can this be changed and almost as importantly, who has the trust (lower case t) of enough of the 'divided' groups to start the ball rolling?  Heck it's hard enough to get the two formal supporter groups to co-ordinate their actions even though they probably share a reasonably common membership base (I don't have the figures so that is just a guess)

Listening to the most recent couple of podcasts, there is obviously genuine bewilderment on SC's behalf about the money KLTFC can raise when asking for fan donations compared to other (in his eyes) comparable clubs.  What I don't think he understands is many of us who were around in 2009, still feel the pain of that time and whether you agree or disagree with The Cap'n, what a lot of this boils down to, particularly for this group of fans, is how distrusting we are of owners in general and the path SC has followed which many think we have seen before, particularly in terms of racking up debts and the club overreaching itself on the pitch without the wherewithal off it to back up. 

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General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: July 27, 2020, 01:33:26 PM »
If we don't need him (Power) why take him....just wasting money and risking upsetting the applecart...

Would agree with that and so, it appears, does IC - "Culverhouse is still looking for two more outfield players to complete his squad: a central defender and a midfielder." taken from the EDP https://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/kings-lynn-town/culverhouse-on-linnets-task-1-6764206

Still no news on Jarvis but he was in the pictures of the squad training session from the weekend.

...people like Southwell are on longish contracts and need to be used

Not sure I would agree with this bit, just because we have someone on a long term deal doesn't mean we HAVE to play them, players need to earn their place and if he isn't good enough (and I am not convinced either way with Southwell) then that should be sole deciding factor.  I was totally against longer contracts at step 2 and below as it compounds recruitment mistakes, appreciate we have got a lot right over the last three years but there will always be a player that doesn't perform to expectations for whatever reason and long term deals can tie up money that should be going to 'new blood'.


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General Discussion / Re: Salary Cap
« on: July 27, 2020, 01:20:43 PM »
@Ollie_Bayliss
A group of around 12 National League clubs are proposing a salary cap.
They want annual limits of:
🔸 £900,000 for the National League
🔸 £600,000 for the National North/South
The working group hope the limit will be introduced via a vote at the League AGM in August.
-----------------------------------------------
An interesting idea but how will it be enforced?
Is the cap inclusive of travel expenses?
Will there be a limit on signing-on payments?
I'm sure clubs will find ways around this in order to attract the right players.

Lets hope it does come in and stops the financial doping at the top of non-league (may also help discourage it further down) although appreciate that won't be well received in places like York where we are rightly seen as one of the clubs that has been guilty of in the past.  Personally think the N/S limit might be too high as we need to get away from full time players at that level.

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General Discussion / Re: Academy the way forward
« on: July 22, 2020, 01:21:44 PM »
Colin, yes it is good to see local youngsters being given the opportunity although I would question how many there actually are (ever were) that are of suitable standard as there have been a fair number of lads who have come and gone over the years, as is always likely to be the case as young players with 'potential' find their level.

What we have seemed able to do since IC's arrival is attract those who didn't quite make it first time - King, Norman being the obvious two successes and could probably include Smith (and now Fleming) in that bracket and also the 'local lad' who just needs a bit more time to develop - FBT, Carey.  Yes, Norwich will always be able to attract the pick of the local talent but we do now seem to be better at picking up those that don't quite make it but are still capable of playing at a good standard, personally I would like to have seen Alfie Payne also given the opportunity at Lynn next season but all seems pretty quiet on that front.

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General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: July 21, 2020, 05:28:03 PM »
Fleming could be a useful addition....a terrier in defence or midfield.

Yes, and still young enough to 'bring on'.  Pleased the signing announcement was for a position that we need to fill, would still like to see an experienced centre half joining, particularly if we go with the young lad in goal, but will IC now think he has enough cover with Burrows and Fleming?  Squad must be nearly near there now, 18 on the list (without Luke Johnson who was named as a 'retained' player) and can't imagine we will end up with many more, still look a little light in midfield for me

GK - Mair, Street
Full backs - Jones, Burrows, Brown
Centre halves - Smith, McAuley, Fleming (personally think Burrows is a better CH than full back)
Central Midfield - Clunan, Richards
Attacking Midfield - Henderson, Carey, Kelly, Hawkins
Forwards - Marriott, Gash, Loza, Southwell


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General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: July 21, 2020, 01:15:25 PM »
Word coming out of Carrow Road, Simon Power likely to return to The Walks on loan

Appreciate I am in the minority (possibly a very small minority) but I would rather not see Power back at the Walks.  Nothing against the lad personally nor do I doubt his ability, I just don't think he was a good fit for us in football terms.  IC has consistently put out good footballing sides and very rarely has he played with an out-and-out winger and I think we will have even less scope for a 'luxury' player next season - yes his pace may well cause problems but at what cost to the shape and structure of the team?

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General Discussion / Re: Next season's prices
« on: July 17, 2020, 02:36:34 PM »
My main gripe is not that the prices have increased, but its the lack of a concession price for the centre seated area, especially for my 6 year old grandson who has been coming with me off and on for the last couple of seasons.

Appreciate we can all look at pricing from a personal perspective (good for me who can buy my ticket 7 days in advance and only see a £2 increase) but realistically there are not that many yellow seats and if the club can maximise it's income from those seats then I guess that is something that it must do.  I haven't sat in the stands too often but I would have thought if you are going with a 6 year old you could still get a good enough view from a blue seat?


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