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General Discussion / Re: The George and the Owner
« on: August 08, 2018, 01:19:37 PM »
Guys, firstly thanks for keeping the debate on a sensible level without anyone 'taking sides' and making it personal either with other forum members or in respect to SC for that matter.

Replying to some specific points raised

Tazzy, most 'investments' by benefactors take the form of loans that are either then written off at some future point or form part of any settlement should the current owner sell their stake in the club.  What worries me is less that SC may well have 800K burning a hole in his pocket at some point but that the article says he will see his 'investment' topping 500K at some point this season - that is a crazy amount in less than three years at step 3

SamsDad / Mallard, I take the point about spreading the load but that didn't help the last time, in fact bringing in further investors only seemed to allow Bobbins to take the club further and further into the abyss.  I am also pretty certain that SC is too much of 'his own man' to want to give up sole ownership in favour of being part of a consortium

As for the 'enjoy the ride' argument, for those who weren't there that fateful night against Retford I can only say I never, never, ever want to stand on a terrace feeling like that ever again and no 'high' from any journey that we may or may not be on will be enough to cover that.  Again I would say that doesn't mean I am happy to sit at step 3 forever more, but rather that I would like to see a club that builds on where we are now that is then capable of mounting a successful promotion push and then living at step 2 based on a more sustainable business model.  Hard - yes, impossible - not imo

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General Discussion / Re: The George and the Owner
« on: August 07, 2018, 01:41:42 PM »
Apologies for all of the fans who think this is 'good news' but as someone who has long argued against the benefactor model of club ownership this has all the makings of a disaster waiting to happen.  Football generally is not a 'money making business', in fact for 99% of clubs/owners it is the exact opposite, and the fact that SC is going to potentially throw a load of money at the club really does nothing but make my heart sink, so some simple questions for those who want to 'enjoy the ride':

1. what happens when the money runs out (and its is a finite amount - SC doesn't have a chain of hotels he can keep selling)
2. what happens if we do get promoted - how is a higher level of football going to be funded where the gap between what the club can generate itself and what it has to find in wages may well be greater than at this level (higher level football will not automatically result in higher gates for fans who have become accustomed to watching a winning team)
3. as the article itself poses - what happens if we don't get promoted?  All we will be left with is probably a poorer (and probably more bitter) owner with no thought to a succession plan

None of the above should be seen as having a lack of ambition for the football club but I think even the most ardent SC's supporters would be hard pressed to argue that to date his 'investment' is doing any more than papering over cracks rather than building solid foundations for a sustainable football club.

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Agree that B-T did a 'more than a decent job' when he moved into the back three but just think he was a better left back, guess it just depends on who is out there on Clark's radar as to which way he goes in terms of starters / cover.  I personally think a back three of Frary, Fryatt and Ward is probably as strong as we can hope for at step 3, particularly based on how much all three improved during the season with hopefully more to come this year, but if Clark can find someone else better or opts for a flat back four then you already have your centre half cover.

I liked Clark's comments about not wanting Gash to do so much running, something I said around mid-season, particularly in relation to when he was partnered with Mettam.  I would be happy with Gash playing up top on his own if it meant pushing any two from King, Hawkins and Parker that little bit higher up the pitch to do more of his running for him.  Personally think last years squad was at its best playing 5-2-2-1 and would potentially only need a starting right back to play that way with the returning personnel, then up to Clark to see if he wanted to continue with that style and who he could bring in to upgrade what we have / provide a bit more depth.

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If we can genuinely hold on to all of last years squad apart from the 4 who have already gone then that is a hell of a start for Clark.  Realistically neither of the front two who have left were starters so would be comfortable if only one of the signings was a front man but think we need more midfield cover so perhaps that should be Clark's focus, that said I would like to see Fryatt jnr convince his new boss that he is worth a place in the 1st team squad.  Obviously we need a new right back but what sort depends on whether we go with three (my preference) or four at the back.  As for another left back, why?  We have re-signed Blake-Tracey who was one of the outstanding players from last year and although he 'filled in' at centre half he looked far better at left back.

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General Discussion / Re: Season tickets.
« on: May 25, 2018, 04:12:56 PM »
Tony, IC made 4 stellar signings in Norman, Blake Tracey, Jarvis and Gash pre-season. It set the stall out for the season.

I am not sure anyone thought any of the above were 'stellar' at the time they were signed.  Norman signed from step 4 club Needham, Blake Tracey had been at Lowestoft for a year having moved there from Dereham and Jarvis too was a 'sideways' move from Lowestoft.  Don't get me wrong all were valuable players at Lynn this season and wouldn't be surprised if many people had at least two of the three in their top three players of the season.  I think you could make a case for Gash being a 'big name' having moved from Barnet but weren't there questions around his fitness?  Looks like he only played a couple of games for them the previous season so more a gamble that paid off for IC?

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General Discussion / Re: Season tickets.
« on: May 25, 2018, 03:00:46 PM »
I would love to see Clark make a real stellar signing say in the next 7 days to really make a statement.

I guess we all look for different things but that's the last thing I want from our new manager.  For me the jury is still very much out on whether Clark can truly build on what IC did last year or if we are going back to where the club was 18 months ago (but with a more expectant fan base) and starting again.  I would be happier to see half a dozen of last years squad confirmed as staying and then Clark adding a few more to strengthen / replace those who do decide to go.  As for 'stellar signings', I think at our level they are just as likely to blow up in everyone's face than come good so would rather see the budget put to better use across the squad.

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General Discussion / Re: Simon Clark and Sam G
« on: May 23, 2018, 01:36:17 PM »
Think underwhelmed sums it up pretty well, after the highs of last season seems crazy that Lappin isn't included in the set up somewhere, perhaps he was seen by SC as being too close to the previous manager?  Talking to someone at work this lunchtime both our plans of purchasing season tickets for next season hav been put on hold pending what sort of squad is assembled - lets hope SC&SG build on what we had this season and don't just start with a blank sheet of paper

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General Discussion / Re: In's and Out
« on: May 09, 2018, 01:54:26 PM »
For what its worth, my opinion:

Street...... IN, unlikely to find better locally
Norman...... OUT, gone already
Ward......... IN, still one of the 'most improved' players of the season and more to come imo
Fryatt........ IN, very, very good season in both a back 3 or 4, went from stopper to footballer imo
Blake Tracy...... IN, very strong contender for player of the season, will do well to keep him
Jarvis........... IN, player of the season by a country mile for me
Clunan........... IN, came on leaps and bounds under IC, hopefully the improved maturity will continue under the new manager
King............... IN, if we can keep him but think he might be looking higher than step 3
Hawkins........... IN, local and with a better pitch would do more, not sure IC ever trusted him nor got the best out of him
Hilliard.............. IN, local and capable squad player at step 3
Gash.............. IN, would be lucky to keep him but might be one of those off to pastures new?
Mettam.......... OUT, would have been better to have paid him to sit at home all season
Parker............... IN, stepped up well and great goal % from midfield
Siddons.............. IN, big question marks about fitness for me, certainly capable but can he play 90mins week in, week out if Gash goes?
Frary............... IN, came on loads from brief appearances early in the season, still work in progress but more to come
Lappin............. IN, has to be looking to play less and coach (hopefully manage) more in 2018/19

In terms of additions, we have an obvious gap at right back (wing back), could do with another centre half if we go with 3 at the back (which I think suits the present squad).  I would like to see Fryatt jnr see more game time to develop into a genuine challenger to the central two in midfield and then it just remains to see what we do up front.  This season showed we don't necessarily need an out and out goal machine with everyone chipping in and perming any 2 from 3 of Parker, King and Hawkins proved pretty potent.  Squad depth remains an issue and I can't see this changing much under the present regime so any new manager coming in may need to be adept in the loan market if injury does strike.

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General Discussion / Re: King's Lynn vs Weymouth in Play Off's
« on: May 02, 2018, 11:18:12 PM »
Have to feel a fair degree of sympathy for the Weymouth fans, travelled all that way and their team just didn't turn up.  Most people's pick for best team at the Walks in the regular season just looked 2nd best in every area tonight.  All the team put in a performance but special mention to Jarvis who absolutely dominated the game, always having time and space, calming those around him and playing the simple ball to great effect. 

I thought our football, particularly second half was back to where we were at the start of the season and whilst the new groundsman's efforts 'to be visible' were a bit over dramatic the difference in the football we could play was there for everyone to see.

Also agree with others comments about the gate but what more can you say?

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General Discussion / Re: Fans are key to play off hopes
« on: May 01, 2018, 01:30:55 PM »
The key thing for me is that the fans remain patient, too often post-Christmas fans have become anxious and this has fed onto the pitch, there will be enough nerves out there already tomorrow night so lets just get behind the lads to play how we know they can, keep the ball and make Weymouth do all the chasing

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General Discussion / Re: A Few Points......
« on: April 26, 2018, 10:22:31 PM »
Some interesting comments and in the spirit of how the forum used to be ie a place for debate and discussion

1.(& 1i)  Totally agree, I have suggested a number of times that one of the things SC really needs to look at going forward is to find someone he trusts who can either act as ghost writer for his programme notes and social media or at the very least act as editor prior to SC publishing any views

ii  Again whilst I agree that A & B fixtures are wholly inappropriate at step 3 of non-league football, the time to dispute them was pre-season and to be a little be fair to SC he did listen to fans who baulked at the Boxing Day fixture being classes as Cat A.  As it turned out both Cat A games were fantastic evenings and well worth the money imo although I do accept that the club probably didn't benefit that much financially and if you add in the lost goodwill (if there was any left) it should be classed as an experiment never to be repeated

iii  Personally I would find it very hard to justify banning supporters at a club the size of KLFC but there are exceptions and probably SC managed to get this one right

iv  Can't comment on staff as I don't know any but would agree that IC had the potential (if he wasn't already) to be the best manager in the club's history

2  I don't feel at all let down by IC, he has given us great football and shown what a 'proper' manager looks like and whilst I don't agree with what has happened in the past few days I think SC's comments on social media were probably the final straw

Tell me Tony why you think he got the banning right, banned for disagreeing with him?  :banghead; :banghead; :banghead;

If it was for disagreeing with SC there wouldn't be anyone left!  If you honestly can't see why your actions got the response they did then there is absolutely no point in having any sort of dialogue with you on this.  All I will add is that I have found very few people on the terraces and in general discussions elsewhere who didn't think your constant criticism of SC did anything but harm to the general club/supporter relationship

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General Discussion / Re: A Few Points......
« on: April 26, 2018, 07:57:59 PM »
Some interesting comments and in the spirit of how the forum used to be ie a place for debate and discussion

1.(& 1i)  Totally agree, I have suggested a number of times that one of the things SC really needs to look at going forward is to find someone he trusts who can either act as ghost writer for his programme notes and social media or at the very least act as editor prior to SC publishing any views

ii  Again whilst I agree that A & B fixtures are wholly inappropriate at step 3 of non-league football, the time to dispute them was pre-season and to be a little be fair to SC he did listen to fans who baulked at the Boxing Day fixture being classes as Cat A.  As it turned out both Cat A games were fantastic evenings and well worth the money imo although I do accept that the club probably didn't benefit that much financially and if you add in the lost goodwill (if there was any left) it should be classed as an experiment never to be repeated

iii  Personally I would find it very hard to justify banning supporters at a club the size of KLFC but there are exceptions and probably SC managed to get this one right

iv  Can't comment on staff as I don't know any but would agree that IC had the potential (if he wasn't already) to be the best manager in the club's history

2  I don't feel at all let down by IC, he has given us great football and shown what a 'proper' manager looks like and whilst I don't agree with what has happened in the past few days I think SC's comments on social media were probably the final straw

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General Discussion / Re: Chesham on Saturday - a Must Win
« on: April 25, 2018, 01:18:05 PM »
Sorry, anyone who thinks that with a game to go and the chance sealing 2nd spot is still very much within our own destiny is somehow a cause to wish 'what might have been' must be living on a different planet (or perhaps it would be better if they were).  I think Hereford have proved to be comfortably the best team in the league this season and the fact that we are one of the next-best four teams (very little between any of them imo) is a testament to IC and the squad he has assembled, just look back to where we were 18 months ago and then tell me this isn't progress.

Essentially a draw means we are at home next week with, at worst, a possible trip to Slough on the bank holiday and personally I would take that as I really don't think we would have anything to fear and their pitch may suit us as much as a home crowd (had the final been an evening game I might have a slightly different view).  Still wouldn't want to pick our opponents as I think all are capable of beating any of the other three on their day but I don't think Kettering would relish the prospect of another evening under the lights at the Walks.


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General Discussion / Re: Ian Culverhouse
« on: April 23, 2018, 02:32:02 PM »
Shame that this has all come out now but don't think either party has come out of it particularly well, certainly looks like the recent Tweet from SC that IC was going nowhere was the final straw and Ian couldn't hold his tongue for any longer.  Probably a lot (or rather not a lot) going on behind the scenes with the most obvious thing in public being IC's constant complaints about the pitch.

In spite of this distraction, nothing should take away how far IC has taken us on the field, yes he may well have had a better financed squad than Setch but he has been really impressive with what he has done with those resources both in acquiring the players he wanted (look at how few players we have turned over compared to say the Heggs era) and then how he has developed those players. 

Hopefully the players will give it one final push and we can get a couple more games at the Walks, the season is already a success for me (I said play offs was a realistic target for the season at the start of the campaign) with the only proviso being how much of IC's legacy will remain after his departure.  Surely Lappin has to be in the frame if we are to maximise that legacy?  Realistically I would say only Norman and King are the right age / ability to make the step up, although I think you could easily make a case for Blake-Tracey too but that still leaves us in a pretty strong position to keep hold of the bulk of the squad should we appoint the right person to continue IC's work.

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General Discussion / Re: Crucial win for the Linnets
« on: April 13, 2018, 01:18:00 PM »
Cracking game last night.  For me, Kettering looked the better team first half although we still created chances but even though we went one down I thought we played the ball around much better second half and deserved the three points.  I thought King was outstanding throughout but looked thoroughly shattered at full time and you have to worry about what last night took out of the team going into another tough game tomorrow.

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