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General Discussion / Re: The Crouch report
« on: December 09, 2021, 05:29:46 PM »
For those that want to do a bit more -

General Discussion / Re: Management Team
« on: December 09, 2021, 02:00:13 PM »
Club is in a difficult position, personally I don't like the statement but appreciate they felt the need to respond to comments made here and on social media.  I would rather SC took his time to get the right person in although we may still end up taking a long time to get the 'wrong person', the concerning bits in the statement are
  * 'locked in talks with a number of potential candidates' - surely you are only in 'talks' with one or two?
  * 'the club remain open to further applications' - does this mean we are not really happy with any of the current applicants?

Given the time it took for IC to go/be pushed, it's not unreasonable to have thought some potential targets might have been sounded out but that doesn't seem to have been the case.  Unless someone was already lined up then Dover was always a stretch but I think we really do need someone in place for Nantwich the following weekend

General Discussion / Re: Management Team
« on: December 07, 2021, 05:38:24 PM »
That last line worries me.

I genuinely hope I'm proved wrong, but having the intention of playing league football is not the way to run a non league football club.

Having the intention of building a  club that attracts enough fans to support a team capable of competing at the highest level that club can reasonably afford, would be a more achievable long term goal.

Sounds like promotion at any cost.

Where does that leave us when it all goes belly up,  again?

Spot on Kevin (meant to post that on you post on the Crouch Report thread too), personally the fact that it was included in the advert merely highlights the continuation of the fantasy rather than 'showing ambition' which is how some may choose read it.

B&G, I am not really sure your interpretation would apply to the football manager post as there are far, far too many things that are (or at least should be) outside of their remit, if the job advert was for an operations manager / CEO then that's a different matter.  As for someone doing their homework, that would be the big concern in terms of the sort of candidates we would appeal to as I can't see the club appealing to an experienced manager so the question is then would an up and coming manager want to come in now or maybe take the gamble that the post will be available again at the end of the season?

General Discussion / Re: Management Team
« on: December 07, 2021, 01:42:54 PM »
Closing date for applications on LinkedIn was 3rd December so hopefully SC has/had interviews lined up for the early part of this week with a view to appointing sooner rather than later, even if Bastock has to take charge for the weekend we have another game on Tuesday (Halifax away) then the Trophy game on the 18th.  Given that it is unlikely we will be able to make changes to the squad until after the Christmas period (not many clubs will be looking to release / loan out over a busy time) he will have a bit of time to assess what he has and also what is needed if he is to "ensure stability and safety this season and then to develop the club with the aim of playing league football in the near future" (quote from the job advert)

General Discussion / Re: The Crouch report
« on: December 03, 2021, 02:06:18 PM »
A view from a (non-PL) owner -

Maybe Andy might be a less confrontational guest for SC and his podcast?  After all Andy has also 'bought a club'?

General Discussion / Re: The Crouch report
« on: December 03, 2021, 02:02:06 PM »
What other businesses do we know that owe HMRC 20 million or even 20000. You the public are picking up the tab paying YOUR taxes!...

Owing HMRC £20,000 wouldn't be that much, my guess is their monthly PAYE bill would be far, far in excess of that but £20M is a different kettle of fish.

Taking over a Football Ckub is where all sanity seems to go out of the window.  Successful businessmen seem to lose al sense of reality and business accrument has no meaning.

The problem is in the benefactor model owned clubs there are rarely any 'voices of reason' or even 'checks and balances' as owners and fans whip each other up into that cycle of spending that 'little bit more' which will achieve success / retain our current level.  I hate to point fingers Mall but you are often on here talking about 'speculating to accumulate' which to most outside of the Walks could be translated as throwing good money after bad, after all what are you hoping to 'accumulate' by 'speculating' money the club doesn't have to provide a short term fix which could potentially lead to a worse longer term problem?

General Discussion / Re: The Crouch report
« on: December 02, 2021, 05:24:25 PM »
A whole host of Derby County fans on Twitter have reacted furiously to find out their club could be liquidated.

Derby have been hit extremely hard this season both on and off the pitch, as they have been deducted 21 points by the EFL which sees them sit bottom of the Championship and facing a £20m dispute with HMRC.

This may sound uncharitable, particularly having been a fan of a team on the receiving end of an HMRC winding up order, albeit for a much smaller value, but I hope HMRC don't 'do a deal' as a line has to be drawn somewhere and being too big / too historic / too whatever to be allowed to fail is no excuse for not paying your bills and just strengthens the need for an independent regulator.  For every Derby that has been spared there is always a Wycombe who have suffered.

This season is now certainly about damage limitation for Derby and getting things sorted off the pitch, as they’re 19 points from safety and will almost certainly be in League One next campaign, but if they can get in some new and competent owners, they could embark on a new dawn.

Football Club owners looking for others to pay their debts again.   :banghead;

Just for a bit of balance, I don't think it is just football club owners who look for others to pay their debts, just look how many comments about Lynn this season have said we need a new owner who will 'invest' in the club(!!!), completely ignoring the level of debt we have accumulated financially doping our way to the NL

General Discussion / Re: Greg Plummer article
« on: December 02, 2021, 01:59:36 PM »

Nice to see it spelt out so clearly. All the new manager has really got to do is win the next three games.

Given that he might not be in place for the Dover game, his first four league games (with current league positions) would be Halifax (3rd), Notts County (5th), Chesterfield (1st) and Grimsby (4th) - if anyone can produce three wins from those four games they won't just take us to safety but will probably get us in the playoffs!

General Discussion / Re: The Crouch report
« on: December 02, 2021, 01:52:27 PM »
I see the PL clubs are having a meeting tomorrow re the Crouch report, I hope they understand the weight of support there is for the bulk of the recommendations.  Note I said hope rather than expect and unfortunately there are a number of CEOs of PL clubs who haven't helped their case over the past week on various media.

On a related note, SD Europe has released a 'Practical Guide to Supporter Liasion' - - I have only skimmed it, but there looks to be lots of good examples from across Europe (at various levels) as to how a Supporter Liasion person / team can benefit both supporters and clubs, not sure SLOs or fan engagement feature highly on SC's 'things to do' list maybe, just maybe, they should.  Not sure who he has lined up as his next guest on his podcast but Fair Game have been on numerous podcasts in the past couple of weeks so would be good to hear them discuss the issues with SC who I think probably has more in common with those PL CEOs

General Discussion / Re: Culverhouse has gone !!!
« on: November 29, 2021, 10:16:07 PM »
Sad to see IC depart but given results and performances it was only a matter of time.  Certainly the best manager I have seen at the club, yes it was at a time when SC's financial doping aided things but certainly got the squads at step 2 and 3 playing above their individual parts.  Unfortunately couldn't repeat the trick at step 1, not helped by poor recruitment in both seasons for which IC has to take some responsibility, particularly this season when he should have identified the glaring lack of NL knowledge within his set up and sought to bring in some help.

Don't envy his replacement - poor squad with probably very little wriggle room for strengthening and then a complete rebuild next year at step 2 when I would imagine we will revert to part time after offloading as many of the multi year deal players that we can

General Discussion / Re: Today V Aldershot
« on: November 27, 2021, 10:15:42 PM »
Worst home performance of the season and even with the injury list full time players need to show more than that, usual suspects still trying (Clunan, Jonesx2 and McFadden) but difficult for anyone else to argue if they were replaced before Dover visit in a fortnight

General Discussion / Re: The next 48 hours
« on: November 27, 2021, 10:04:47 PM »
Can't have been an easy post match interview for IC but thought he got it spot on - "I thought back four played really well and defended really well and midfield battled but going forward we were lacking quality and strength."  The trouble is that it is the story of our season other than individual defensive errors that have had a disproportionate impact due to the lack of anything at the other end, 4 goals in 9 home games tells you all you need to know.

Thought some of the crowd were out of order today, whilst I accept passions run high and everyone was understandably disappointed with the performance, nothing at the club is ready for step 1 and maybe a step backwards will allow the club to build back stronger but that will only really happen if all parties can find a way to work together

As for IC, he is far and away the best manager we have seen at the club but unfortunately the relationship with the owner has never been the best and it seems too much energy has gone into protecting positions rather than getting the right people in place

General Discussion / Re: Incoming
« on: November 27, 2021, 11:48:34 AM »
I believe people put too much faith in “the striker” AND “the Manager”.  Strikers don’t score many goals in teams that can’t create chances - except in village football.  And managers don’t have a font of knowledge “about football” any more than some Chairmen, or perceptive punters, because there isn’t much to know about the “simple game”.  Some make a lucrative living by talking complicated “tactics” with the help of computer graphics, but give them a team to manage, and they leave quickly, admitting they were “out of their depth”(eg, Gary Neville).  It is more than possible that a perceptive punter, who can see what’s going on in front of him, could manage a team for one game, and beat a full-time pro manager who has been sacked six times, but keeps getting the job, for his “ knowledge “!  So, the Dilly hope for today is that Ken Charles is in a team that can cross the halfway line and create chances, not one with six defenders and three “holders” blocking off their penalty box for 70 minutes, and eventually caving in.  SC just as capable of finding a decent player as IC, IDHO !!!

Dilly, sorry this is getting silly now and if you aren't going to go and actually watch a game then please don't judge what you haven't seen.  I appreciate you are exaggerating 'for effect' but 3 centre halves, 2 wing backs a holding midfielder is how we have set up for most games this season and that generally hasn't been the problem what has been the issue is that those in front of them haven't been up to NL standard (or at least playing the way IC would like) which has put more pressure on those with the ball in deeper positions.  Fingers crossed that Barrett will look nearer fitness today (I would start him anyway) and that the new lad provides a bit of positive movement in the final third

General Discussion / Re: Chairman on social media
« on: November 27, 2021, 11:25:16 AM »
Rod, if Setch is in the frame then we may well be playing Heacham earlier than even Gordon could hope for (edit Mall, we obviously have different memories of the Setch era and whatever he is doing at Bedford that is the same level as Dereham, who are also 2nd in their division so would Gusterson also be an option on that criteria?)

Aside from the attack on IC, the article completely fails to mention the Crouch report, appreciate he might not agree with all of it's 47 recommendations but surely that would have been a better topic prior to our biggest game of the season? 

General Discussion / Re: Chairman on social media
« on: November 27, 2021, 08:06:23 AM »
Mall, you beat me to it as I have just read the article and to me I have to say there are plenty of other things SC could be doing than trying to be a part-time analyst - basically picking statistics to suit his argument ie Wealdstone winning games 1-0 means we should keep clean sheets, I don't remember him saying the same in the NLN season when we conceded loads but scored plenty more, likewise he was full of praise of the way the team played then too.  I know he has column inches to fill and I am sure he will defend it by saying he is trying to 'promote' todays game but there are ways of doing that and this didn't seem to be the most well advised route to me 

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