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General Discussion / Re: HIJACKED
« on: August 17, 2020, 01:25:55 PM »
Fair point Normski, personally whether volunteers pay an entrance fee or not is between them and the club, end of story.

Anyway to go back to your original post, I would be disappointed if either of the two recent appointments are 'paid' positions, not because I have anything against either of the lads or the job they will be doing but given how far ahead the on-field activities already are compared to the off-field, I don't understand spending more on the on-field side than is necessary and IC already seems to have a pretty good handle on what he is watching and what he expects from his players.  For me all the focus should be on creating a more stable club off the field to catch up to where IC has already taken us.

General Discussion / Fundraising
« on: August 10, 2020, 01:31:32 PM »
So with the Trust's GDF season ticket raffle being drawn tonight and putting over £1000 into the GDF pot, what can be learned and where do we go next? 

For me, the big thing is that if the Trust hadn't taken some initiative there wouldn't be an extra £1000 - donations to the GDF II are currently just over £2400 (+ the raffle money) and it seems it's much better to run 'a fundraiser' whether that is a raffle or a quiz (that raised money for GDF I) than to just ask for donations.  Hopefully there will be something else in the pipeline between now and Christmas with a push to again raise a sum for a specific item that will be required for the ground grading improvements - I think a 'target' helps focus the minds and also shows those contributing where their money is going.

I appreciate that it is difficult in current times, both physically with social distancing and financially with many unsure of their incomes, to raise money but what are other people's views on how the fans can be encouraged to contribute (over and above match days) to the club? 

General Discussion / Re: FenmenRadio
« on: August 08, 2020, 11:46:30 AM »
Certainly worth considering when you think of what a good job some of clubs did in the NLN last season. 

Couple of provisos - the media team at Lynn is pretty stretched already so would probably have to be completely new people stepping forward to organise and man this service and also Radio Norfolk have done an excellent, particularly as we have risen up the leagues, so need to be careful that any new service didn't interfere with what they do.

General Discussion / Re: Win a Season Ticket and support the GDF
« on: August 07, 2020, 02:47:48 PM »
Does anyone have any details of how the winner is to be drawn, given that there are a reasonable number of tickets sold it would be good if this was public or, for those who know how to do such things, streamed?

General Discussion / Re: New sponsor
« on: August 07, 2020, 02:45:02 PM »
If there is an element of a percentage structured deal, I would think that will just be with the LinnetsBet app that will be available in September although assume that will be essentially the same Low6 app but with Linnets branding?

General Discussion / New sponsor
« on: August 07, 2020, 01:27:48 PM »
Well, those looking for more commercial activity - we now have a 'back of the shirt' sponsor

Had a quick look on Companies House - an 'interesting' Balance Sheet to say the least, but could just be a snapshot of a start up although I hope we have got the money up front.  Again SC seems to have found an obscure businesses with no apparent link to the club or area that is willing to put money into the club, not sure about the LinnetsBet idea but no doubt we will hear more as the season progresses.

General Discussion / Re: Next seasons Squad
« on: August 06, 2020, 06:05:26 PM »
I would think 600k would be the benchmark for the National League.  Some of the really Ďambitiousí clubs are paying out much more than this.

Going on MH saying 1500 would not cover our wage bill I presume we come far over 600k? :dontknow:

Not really - I think he said 1500 'standing' season ticket holders wouldn't cover the wage bill. 

1500 x £380 = £570K, less the VAT comes to £475K, still a good chunk of money but not £600K, although I appreciate all any of us are doing is speculating at a figure.

Obviously the comment from MH was a worry as we (like most many other non-league sides) are heavily reliant on turnstyle income compared with clubs further up the pyramid and even if you allow for additional income from seated season tickets and non-season ticket holders paying a bit more on a match by match basis there are still concessions that will counter balance this so heaven only knows were the funds are coming from for things like electric, travel etc

General Discussion / Re: Droylsden
« on: August 06, 2020, 01:52:57 PM »
Premier league got to start helping lower leagues out. Imorale wages premier league players get. Perhaps we should all cancel our Sky Sports contracts.

Given that in 18/19 season there was £140m paid to EFL clubs in 'solidarity payments' (there is also a trickle down to steps 1 & 2 of non-league but I couldn't quickly find that number), I guess some EPL clubs might say this is already 'helping out', as B&G has said as much of the problem is then how those clubs choose to spend this money.  I am not defending the crazy wages at EPL but their justification is they are competing in a global market and the reason why they can command the massive tv rights is by clubs attracting the some of the worlds best players (at a cost). 

The generally accepted figure for 'sustainable' is wages is around 70% of income yet clubs up and down the leagues seem happy to point the finger elsewhere even though they know they are paying well in excess of this figure.  When the pandemic hit we heard lots of comments about using this as an opportunity to 'reset', lets see if the salary cap can get any traction in the EFL and hopefully, in time, it will then come into the NL along with some sensible fair play rules with appropriate sanctions for those found to be breaking them.

General Discussion / Re: Next seasons Squad
« on: August 06, 2020, 08:47:34 AM »
Need to add Fleming in there somewhere, if Fleming isn't able to hold his own then think we might be a defender and/or a defensive midfielder short.  Can't see Jarvis being able to play consistently at NL level, particularly if we end up with a condensed schedule, so moving him into the 'squad player' column does leave us short unless we are planning on playing 4-2-4 with two wingers! 

I personally don't understand the Power signing from either clubs perspective.  For Lynn he adds to an area we have depth in (probably means a lot less opportunities for Carey who might end up out on loan) when we are told budgets are tight and for Norwich, I assume they are willing to accept what would probably be less game time (Loza ahead on paper?) for the convenience of having him being able to train with them?

General Discussion / Re: National League Play off Final
« on: August 03, 2020, 05:14:54 PM »
Now hereís a club who knows how to get the fans onside.  Well done Harrogate Town.  Brand new all seater stand.  Rewarding the fans with Promotion to the Football League all for £17.  Lessons to be learned there Stephen & Mark.

Surely the lesson to be learned is find yourself a rich man who is easily parted from his cash and is willing to subsidise the club's route to league football?

General Discussion / Dover
« on: August 03, 2020, 02:13:50 PM »
Not the sort of statement you want to see from any club:

Worrying thing is we don't really know how much of this has been brought on by COVID and how much was there beforehand but, either way, I don't think we can be anything but concerned for football at steps 1 & 2 (where there are 'substantial' wages but very little non-match day income)

General Discussion / Re: Ground Improvements
« on: August 03, 2020, 01:39:40 PM »
No offence to contributors on this forum as they all have the stability and progress of the club at heart.  However, I donít believe that schemes such as cigarette-style cards of the players, photo-ops, etc., would appeal to the wider area of people that we should now be able to interest and attract.

Not unreasonable and a fair indication of where we are and the sorts of funds necessary to maintain that level

SC has run this club better than any other Chairman, and in a way that a fan-rum club would never be able to better. 

Wholly debatable statement and whilst you could argue that given who SC is up against (Dolimore, Bobbins, Chapman et al) makes that title slightly irrelevant, I really don't think we have a model that many would want to emulate (unless you are from Histon, Lowestoft, etc)

We should now be able to attract people who in the past would never have thought of coming to a game, and that is where our attentions should be aimed.  We therefore need reps for all the villages to round up and enthuse new supporters, and THAT is where our efforts should be made to help finance the club.  We must think bigger.....

Whilst the football on offer next season will be the highest standard many of us will have witnessed at the Walks (if fans are able to watch) that doesn't mean the club has a right to expect that fans 'should' come.  Many times in the past a successful side at a lower level has had attendances comparable or better then the following, less successful, season at a higher level.  Tickets have been prices at the upper end of what 'neutrals' might expect to pay to watch NL standard football so generating bigger attendances won't be easy, although I would agree that isn't a reason not aim for them.  A couple of seasons ago there were posters available for 'this months fixtures', maybe something similar could be arranged for this season and your 'village reps' could make sure they are put up around West Norfolk?  Personally I don't know what more can be done - Lynn News/YLP/EDP have good coverage, Radio Norfolk does an excellent job and KLFM cover the Linnets as much as any other sporting side so how do you attract that floating football fan?

General Discussion / Re: Ground Improvements
« on: August 03, 2020, 01:17:45 PM »
We are already a fan run club as the bulk of the money taken to run the club is taken from the fans!

Obviously this was partially tongue in cheek but we are a long, long way from fan run / fan owned.  Paying an entrance fee for a product (in any walk of life) is far removed from investing and shouldn't ever really be seen as equivalent, it certainly isn't at truely 'fan run' clubs.  I would also question your definition of 'bulk' as I think the model SC is working to, unfortunately, needs a fair chunk of money from him every season.

General Discussion / Re: Ground Improvements
« on: August 03, 2020, 01:13:29 PM »

The Trust has a membership of around 80 people. That's all.

If you combine the number of people that have purchased tickets, and also contributed to the purchase of the ticket (i.e. so the cost of the season ticket prize does not have to be taken from the raffle ticket sales), that also gives you a figure of around 80. They may or may not be the same 80.

Compare this number to the amount of individuals that contributed to the Clubs/Fotl's last two fund raising efforts..........and they have 1400 regular supporters to go at.

More beneficial making a small donation to the Club (although its down to the individuals how they donate their own money)? Whys that? What can be more beneficial than 100"% of the Trusts season ticket raffle money raised going to the Club? Even the cost of the prize has been taken care of by kind donations.

Low key, when it can be argued that there's been a 100% take up?   :laughcry:

If the Club and their FOTL could repeat such success, then maybe things could start going in the right direction.
 :scarf: :scarf: :scarf:

B&G, just to pick you up on this, why do would you consider the Season Ticket raffle a success at 67 when it is open to anyone ie all of the 1400 average gate, in the same way as any club / FotL fundraiser?  Maybe this is part of the problem with certain sections of the fan base immediately dismissing any fundraising effort by a particular group when in fact we should all have a similar ultimate goal - the success of KLTFC (appreciate it isn't quite as simple as that as 'success' will be different for different people)

General Discussion / Re: Ground Improvements
« on: August 02, 2020, 12:51:48 PM »
...Second, the Trust's season ticket scheme....rather low key, no real target too low aspiration level if 66 is deemed good...heck that's a profit of around £300....come on it's National League, not Sunday League ! Have considered making it 67 B and G and then giving ticket back if I win, but even tho hard up, think some small donation to the club might be more beneficial.

Not sure there was 'a target' as such and whilst I would love to see the entrants in the hundreds you appear to have given an answer as to why that isn't the case.  Just for info, currently the raffle is set to generate £660 towards the Ground Development Fund (the price of the ticket was raised from donations by businesses / individuals)

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