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General Discussion / Re: War Chest appeal.
« on: June 26, 2020, 01:47:27 PM »
As we are a far bigger team than when the FOTL was brought in to being,and I feel it needs to grow with the club? And a way to do that would be to increase the size of the committee slightly,raise subs to £10 a year,form a sub committee to organise social club events? :dontknow: :scarf:

No problem with the idea of a FotL sub-committee to run some social event fundraisers so long as it compliments / doesn't distract from their main activity.  Not sure on numbers or who is on the FotL committee but certainly something that could be brought up at the AGM.  Don't really see the need to increase the subs - keep it as accessible as possible imo and allow those that are willing to contribute a bit more, through 12th man, pitch squares, 100 club, to do so.

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General Discussion / Re: Champions Party
« on: June 26, 2020, 01:42:55 PM »
Hopefully the club have got better things to occupy their time.  I understand the argument that a promotion should be celebrated but given the circumstances (votes, PPG, teams relegated without being able to save themselves 'on the pitch') and also the general health concerns that still exist in general society, I think this is perhaps an exception to the rule.

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General Discussion / Re: War Chest appeal.
« on: June 25, 2020, 11:14:37 PM »
I would like to donate on a monthly basis, but not until I know that there will be a full and transparent remit as to where the money is going.  :scarf: :scarf:

I think there may be a few of us in that position SL, that is why I have suggested the War Chest (and any fan contribution fundraising) should be a FotL campaign - the club would still get the cash (as that is the whole MO of the FotL) but it would then be clearly reported, as a minimum, at the Friends AGM and any questions about (any) scheme's operation could be brought up at the AGM and at £5 membership isn't financially prohibitive.


I have mentioned previously thar maybe they put the price of membership up to £10,and become a social club. :dontknow:

Griss, sorry but I don't understand the logic of changing the FotL from it's current format - everyone know what it is there to do and whilst there may be differing opinions about how well it achieves its aims, those aims are reasonably well understood - what would a 'social club' do?  Personally if the FotL moved away from it's stated aims of co-ordinating supporters to help raise revenue funds for the football club then I probably wouldn't renew my membership.

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General Discussion / Re: War Chest appeal.
« on: June 25, 2020, 05:57:01 PM »
I would like to donate on a monthly basis, but not until I know that there will be a full and transparent remit as to where the money is going.  :scarf: :scarf:

I think there may be a few of us in that position SL, that is why I have suggested the War Chest (and any fan contribution fundraising) should be a FotL campaign - the club would still get the cash (as that is the whole MO of the FotL) but it would then be clearly reported, as a minimum, at the Friends AGM and any questions about (any) scheme's operation could be brought up at the AGM and at £5 membership isn't financially prohibitive.

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General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: June 19, 2020, 05:03:36 PM »
Seems someone was listening DD, you (and anyone else wanting to) can now pay monthly into the War Chest

https://www.kltown.co.uk/single-post/2020/06/19/Monthly-Walks-War-Chest-Donation

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General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: June 18, 2020, 05:37:51 PM »
Without having a 'pop' at DD's idea, I would disagree with B&G and Mallard in saying 'go for it'.  We (KLTFC supporters) are far too disjointed as it is without anyone and everyone setting up their own fundraising schemes, however well intentioned.  All fundraising should fall within the MO of the two existing groups - Trust (long term funding), FotL (current funding). 

Anyone doing their own thing will be doing so without any checks and balances in place and like the guy who ran his own bus for an away trip that ended in tears, also has the potential to do harm to the reputation of supporter fundraising and / or the club were anything to go wrong.  I would reiterate that I am not saying that would be this case in this instance as I have no idea DD personally but the Trust and FotL have constitutions for a reason.

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General Discussion / Re: Ground Development Fund.
« on: June 18, 2020, 08:35:06 AM »
Griss, not an unreasonable request and will be down to the membership if they want to agree.  I have a couple of things that I would add into your proposal - firstly do we have a clear list of what is required at the Walks to meet step 1 grading and secondly I would put a time limit (say 1st September) for the GDF fundraising for the Trust to then also use its own funds.

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General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: June 17, 2020, 05:17:32 PM »
DD, given that our average attendance this year was 1417, I think finding 2000 people to pay £7.50 for something they wouldn't see (in your scenario) is pie in the sky.  Looking at the existing supporter base, the reality is that the FotL '12th man' had less that 20 members (think it was 12 or 13) willing to pay £5 per win (so not even every game). 

Much as it would be great to think otherwise, the York game was a one off and if we could average 1500-1600 in NL next year (assuming we are in the lower half) I think that should be seen as a success, personally for budgeting purposes I would be expecting less than that as I think the crowds this year were boosted by a team doing well rather than supressed by being at NLN rather than NL level. 

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General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: June 17, 2020, 02:21:16 PM »
Radical plan coming up that will probably be stamped on rather than adopted, but here it comes.  The York crowd of 4K showed just what potential KLT have to attract very impressive crowds when “big games” turn up.  If we are fortunate enough to have last season’s incredible effort rewarded with promotion, “big games” will be available on a regular basis.  There are supporters and neutrals who are obviously able to pay the relevant price basically once a fortnight, to watch a home game.  The money they pay must be budgeted into their general life expenditure, and they have not had that outlay in recent weeks and months.  Here’s the rub...  From now on, why couldn’t or wouldn’t a high proportion of regular supporters start paying their usual entrance fee, money they have already shown they can afford, and are usually willing to pay.  If the average outlay in normal times is, say, £15 Per fortnight, would those  supporters be willing to start putting that money again into the club, into a special fund and account, at the rate of £15 a fortnight, having set up (usually digitally) a payment system.  What a boost to the club, the Chairman, and players that input would be, with a likely excellent season to follow (eventually !).  Ironically, I don’t believe football should re-start until the virus is vanquished - but we could do this to build the club in a big way....   I’ll sit back for the brickbats !

DD, appreciate the thought and as Mallard says under Trust run ownership (Chester / Darlington) this sort of thing has worked elsewhere - whether it is the mindset of the west Norfolk population or the current ownership model is open to debate but there doesn't seem to be the support for this sort of initiative at the club on any sort of scale. 

I really do think that we need the FotL to step into this role but this will also need buy in from both the fan base and the current owner.  FotL had a number of fundraising schemes last season that had 'patchy' uptake so I guess we have to wait and see what they come up with for next season and whether the fans will find one to really get behind.

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General Discussion / Re: Next season's squad
« on: June 16, 2020, 01:47:59 PM »
Reports are that Gloucester are benefitting from moving back to the town having been away for a long time so extra investment / sponsorship being made available.  On one of the national forums a Gloucester fan also said there has been a fair bit of churn so those lads are not 'additions' as such but replacing players who have left the club.

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General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: June 16, 2020, 01:45:23 PM »
So, again, which League (EFL 1, 2, National, NLNorth or NLSouth will run 1 x Team short due to BURY FC being expelled 2019-20 Season  :dontknow:

Nonleague did try to answer this on another thread and whilst nothing is certain due to COVID19, in all likelihood a Bury team will be placed somewhere in the pyramid so hopefully nowhere will be a team short this coming season (obviously there could yet be further casualties anywhere from Championship down creating other 'spaces' but that is a separate issue). 

EFL divisions 1 is sorted by relegating one less than division 2 are promoting, division 2 will relegate just one with two coming up from the NL (to be confirmed this week?).  The expectation is that Bury will be placed in NLN (think there will be resistance on them being placed any higher) in which case there will only be 1 (or 3) relegated from NL with 2 (or 4) promoted into the NL.  Coming down will be Chorley (and Ebbsfleet & Fylde) so someone from the NLN will probably be reallocated to the NLS to even up the numbers.

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General Discussion / Re: War Chest appeal.
« on: June 03, 2020, 01:33:52 PM »
Using the term War chest has just reminded me of something from a few years ago.

Does anyone know what happened to the war chest that certain people use to claim Buster was supposed to be building when he was at the Club?

If it ever existed as some claimed, did he leave it behind when he sold the Club?

Maybe that's why we keep digging the pitch up every off season - SC found a map with an X on it but hasn't located Captain Buster's "lost treasure" yet (now where is that pirate emoji?)

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General Discussion / Re: War Chest appeal.
« on: June 03, 2020, 01:29:56 PM »
Only thoughts I have on why I can’t say. Maybe it should have been.

Sorry, didn't mean to put you on the spot and appreciate the FotL committee will make decisions which all individuals on the committee need to stand behind otherwise it would be chaos.  As for the length of people's arms / pockets I think that goes back to my original comment that this sort of fundraising isn't something that can be switched on like a tap, generally there needs to be an awful lot of work put in for, in all likelihood, relatively little reward before you get to a 'Darlington' situation where I guess they have a number of fans who 'expect' to dip their hands in their pockets every year.

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General Discussion / Re: War Chest appeal.
« on: June 03, 2020, 08:30:52 AM »
Well if we want the club to move forward and keep better players coming in to strengthen the squad then to me it sounds a sound move ,and I will be surporting it with a donation

MAH, any thoughts on why this isn't a FotL initiative?

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General Discussion / Re: The big vote
« on: June 02, 2020, 01:55:19 PM »
Not an overly positive view from Wycombe's chairman

https://www.wycombewanderers.co.uk/news/2020/june/an-update-from-rob-couhig/

Pretty negative throughout but if anyone is in doubt as to where some clubs are, this is the quote that stood out for me referring to non-football staff - "We are also recommending that they begin the search for alternative employment once furlough ends"

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