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General Discussion / Re: Barnet at home Tuesday night
« on: October 06, 2021, 01:49:36 PM »
With Bird, Morias, Denton and King all missing Will IC be calling back any of the loaners to fill the bench?  I see we only had a 15 man squad to pick from

Without any information coming out of the club, I can only assume the injuries to Bird and/or Denton are not deemed serious enough to recall Fleming, although last night was the second game we have gone without a recognised defender on the bench.  As for the others out on loan, I guess IC thinks what he currently has would go on ahead of them and we would just have to rejig the formation where necessary.  Walker's loan spell must be coming to an end soon and that may be the point where potential other options can be explored

General Discussion / Re: Barnet at home Tuesday night
« on: October 05, 2021, 10:48:03 PM »
Much as four points from the last four games might be seen as a the bare minimum, if that, tonight's performance does give some cause for optimism.  Gold's penalty miss aside, I thought he and Linton looked a lot brighter as a pair and a better combination with Rowley than any other front three mix we have played to date.  I was concerned at Clunan's inclusion over McGavin but I thought he had a really good game and Jones doesn't look like a player who has hardly played for the past few months.  We still look very thin on the bench (are either Gyasi or Walker really NL standard?) but the squad is far more competitive than twelve months ago and maybe a bit more tinkering can be one that can keep us in the division.

General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: October 02, 2021, 11:11:02 AM »
The 80k figure Tony, is that meant to be 800k ?

How does Bigger crowds equate to costing more per head ?  Just by adding security

Mall, apologies the £80K was monthly.

The big crowd issue was twofold - higher security requirement so increased cost and also linked into the issue of the pricing for child seats in the main stand.  Basically if the club 'could' sell all those seats at adult prices then it would be losing out if it heavily discounted those seats for children as there is only a finite number of seats available.  I suppose as we have come up the leagues the seating at the Walks, except for a very few 'big' games has always been big enough to cope so people have got used to that and now that is no longer the case (for example when Southend visited) you can understand why SC wants to maximise his income from those seats.  Hopefully the Category structure will accommodate both views

General Discussion / Re: Maidenhead
« on: October 02, 2021, 11:03:22 AM »
My big hope for today is that we revert to a 3-4-1-2 formation.  We have three capable centre backs without Bird so I just hope we use them, Coleman is back from suspension so should be straight back into the lineup so the only decision for me would be who partners Morias, personally I would go with Linton but neither he nor Walker look like they are the answer and you can see why both are out on loan.  Also a big test of Jones' fitness as I assume Denton is unavailable after coming off on Tuesday evening.

General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: October 02, 2021, 10:57:33 AM »
A few personal thoughts on last nights meeting. 

Fair dues for SC for holding such a meeting, no-one likes admitting their mistakes in public but he did so and has tried to address it with the price deduction for the lesser games, I guess he now has to wait and see if those who did cite the price as the reason for not going respond. 

I think he is starting to appreciate that the club can't be run by him and a bunch of volunteers and expertise needs to be brought in on a number of fronts, catering being the most prominently mentioned last night but my guess is that there are plenty more areas where this applies.  Whether he can attract and retain the right people and the club can afford them is a whole different story

Whilst I don't think the meeting and the price reduction have solved everything, I hope the big takeaway from last nights meeting is that, in the most part, fans were prepared to listen to SC explain his reasoning for decisions and are maybe more realistic than SC himself about the clubs 'natural' position in the footballing world.

General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: October 02, 2021, 10:39:22 AM »
Apologies for the delay, time and Parkrun wait for no man!  Sorry, what was meant to be summary on last nights event as turned into War and Peace.  Hopefully 'what was said' not 'what I thought'

A good attendance (around 50ish), listened to SC explain that last year was 'a disaster' and whilst IC wanted to stop and SC thought the £50k fine would have a better option but that the twelve point deduction would have meant relegation this year

Moving onto the current season, SC accepted that the club hadn't kept pace off the pitch with on it.  Catering 'not great' and on SC's 'to do list'.  New CEO David Hutchinson is full-time, although won't be based at the Walks and is looking at 'bigger projects' and longer term plans, so there will be another appointment to deal with local opportunities.  Still obviously has issues with the council / Alive Leisure re training facilities and talked about the option of going to West Lynn but agreement couldn't be reached (this got a little bit he said / she said with a member of the audience and so the meeting moved onto the Q&A)

I won't list all, as some were pretty specific / individual but this is a flavour of the questions
Q - Why no media, won't build friends.  A - Don't have friends in media and praised Reg and his team from KES who were there

Q - Was it £1000 for a burger van.  A - No, but it was £1000 for 'catering'

Q - Season ticket price can't be justified compared to NCFC.  A - Pricing is difficult and SC was concerned that a large number of season tickets @ (say) £250 would mean just over £10 per game which isn't enough to run the club.

This then opened up to a wider debate on pricing with SC admitting 'I have made a mistake’, particularly with the kids pricing.  ‘Big games’ come with bigger costs (security) and basically that needs to be paid for so SC was worried that lots of kids in the seats would mean a lower income figure than if those seats were sold to adults.  Now obvious that for the smaller games there is enough space so pricing will be adjusted.  It got a little chaotic with exactly what was being proposed but I think we are going to a category system with £3 off across the range of prices for the non-‘big games’ and possibly something else for kids sitting down so let’s wait and see what comes out of the club in the run up to the Barnet game. 

Q – How much does it cost to run this season.  A – Obviously difficult to say depending on trips etc but ballpark figure of £80K was mentioned.  Lots of costs to going full time, not just players wages – training pitch was again brought up, plus we now have a full time physio and full time analyst.  Only time will tell if going full time was the right decision.  Current (external) loans – Bounce Back £50K which we have started to repay, £430K Sport England which repayments don’t start for another four years but then its £4-5K per month

Q – Money for new striker (from Robbie Back).  A – depends on crowds
Q – Is the club sustainable at NL level.  A – Not on current crowds.  Discussion around what people really want
Q – Why 2 year contracts.  A- Only way to get some players, also anyone we paid a fee for automatically on a two year deal to ‘protect’ the investment.  Some first team players are on one year deals

General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: October 01, 2021, 08:34:16 AM »
I should be going this evening so if anyone has anything specific (and sensible) then feel free to pm me and I will do my best.  As I have said previously, I hope all parties attend tonight being prepared to listen, with it being time limited we can't afford to get sidetracked or for it to turn into a moaning session with no real positive steps forward.

Whilst I appreciate some who have been watching for years / decades may not like and/or trust SC, the fact that he is prepared to front up at these sort of events puts him way ahead of Bobbins etc from previous regimes imo, so lets see what is said this evening.

General Discussion / Re: Altrincham and Maidenhead
« on: September 29, 2021, 01:31:32 PM »
There are only effectively about 14 games in the season we might expect to win......we have lost the first two......lose the next two and that only leaves 10......... difficult then to see how we get to the 45-50 point mark to keep us safe........these games in the mini league are absolutely vital........ something needs to change very soon I am afraid.

Couldn't agree more

This is why the likes of Barnet and Aldershot have reacted as they have....they recognise you can't hang around till 10/12 games have gone and you have say only 6/7 points.......from there it's almost impossible . Obviously for Lynn it's important for IC to stay, but we need a change to the playing personnel from somewhere very soon IMO

I think it is really interesting that 99% of the fanbase (me included) would totally back the statement that it's 'important for IC to stay' but when you speak to people outside of the club their natural reaction is that IC would be under far more pressure than is the case.  Don't get me wrong, I am not calling for IC's head and the recruitment has, on the whole, been a vast improvement on last season but I don't think it's unreasonable to question the lineups in the last two games, which as you said were some of the most important of the season.  I accept Bird has been injured but we have gone away from the back three that looked reasonable at the start of the season and brought in Walker who didn't look like he really fitted in his first game (I missed the Wealdstone defeat so can't comment on his performance then) and the I have no idea how the formation worked last night.  The fear for me is we are starting to 'search' for a winning lineup in the manner we did last season that saw 20 different lineups in the first 20 games, sometime you have to accept you were beaten by a better team on the day and it wasn't the lineup or tactics that were wrong but continually chopping and changing is even less likely to produce positive results. 

Personally I hope we go back to three at the back for Saturday and with Coleman returning from suspension we can find a front combination that will start to convert some chances.

General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: September 29, 2021, 01:16:01 PM »
Mallard, not sure if it's motivation and/or 'strong leadership' (which is often an excuse for 'bloody mindedness') that is required. 

Maybe I see things slightly differently because I think we are in a completely false position within the pyramid so another season of NL football against the likes of Notts County et all is a bonus, albeit an expensive one for all concerned.  Unfortunately too many seem to have bought into the idea that if we can only hold our own this season it will get better next year, I just can't see that being the case without radical change in vast areas of how the club is set up which is why going full time on the playing side was a huge risk in my opinion.  For me, I think we stand a much better chance of 'building a club' at step 2 where costs are lower and we are more likely to be competitive on the field and so drawing in those 'fair weather' fans as the club is proving that it doesn't currently have a big enough hard core of fans to be financially viable at step 1.

As for what the forum will achieve, personally I hope it is the first step towards that idea of 'building a club' however, if people think someone (anyone) will be there with all the answers then they will go away disappointed.  Much in the same way, I didn't see the FotL meeting as a 'one off' but the first step towards building some fan engagement back at the club, it wasn't perfect and imo the FotL still has a long way to go but it will only get there by being relevant to the fans and for that you need meetings like the one earlier in the month.

General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: September 27, 2021, 06:48:24 PM »
Good news, a positive step from the chairman.  Let's hope we see some representation from the trust and FOTL . :)

Just out of interest, what are you hoping for from the representatives of the Trust and/or the FotL?  Personally I think it would probably be counterproductive, far better to have SC, and the club, being the focus of the evening, particularly when time is limited, than to have a meeting that would be far more likely to go off on tangents.

Both the Trust and FotL have held members meetings in the past couple of months - the Trust had a Special General Meeting in August and the FotL had both an AGM in August and an open meeting (for members and non-members) earlier this month so I think their respective memberships (and they are a number of common members) are both reasonably up to date with things.

General Discussion / Re: Fans' Forum
« on: September 27, 2021, 02:00:03 PM »
Hopefully this will be a constructive meeting, would like to think ALL parties will go with an open mind and listen.  I guess we won't have to wait too long to find out.

General Discussion / Re: Wealdstone at home
« on: September 23, 2021, 02:18:29 PM »
Saturday starts a run of four games against teams in the bottom half so a great opportunity to put some points on the board and build a bit of momentum, a win on Saturday with a point or two in the next two away games might also see a better attendance for the Barnet game on the 5th.  We are certainly a better side than last year but so are many around us, we just need to start converting those half chances, I can't attend Saturday but would like to hear that we have gone with Linton up top with Morias as I just think that will give us a better edge than starting with Walker, elsewhere the team practically picks itself once you perm the three from four at the back.

General Discussion / Re: Cameron King
« on: September 23, 2021, 01:39:17 PM »
The lack of news may be due to a confidentiality issue of a medical nature.

No statement from the Club may also be due to Cameron himself not wishing to make public his situation.

Is Cameron training with the team  :dontknow:

That could well be the true fact Mike.

I suppose the real issue is the lack of engagement with the supporters whatever the subject is.

Keep using this lack of engagement quote to dramatise situation, how about thinking things are kept of media for a reason whether personal or whatever like I said I’m sure when the times right we may well know … leave it to the professionals and you concentrate on getting behind lynn this weekend

I don't think calling for more (any!) engagement by the club with it's fan base is dramatising the situation, more a statement of fact that neither of the owners since reformation have really wanted to have much to do with the fans, other than take their money.  As for King's situation, there is obviously a problem and whilst it wouldn't be helpful for anyone concerned to make it a part of the weekly press conference it is bound to be raised now and again based on how thin the squad is 

General Discussion / Re: In the Wider interest of Football
« on: September 22, 2021, 10:14:40 PM »
Great initiative and well done to the clubs that started this off and those that have subsequently signed up, although I can't see KLTFC joining them any time soon.  Hopefully another source of support for the reset button and Tracey Crouch's report but still reliant on politicians turning words into actions so the pressure needs to be maintained

General Discussion / Re: Dagenham at home
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:42:10 PM »
Replying to Gordon’s post.  I remember well, you and Kevin running the club shop etc. and running it as a proper supporters club should be run.  The “Friends of the Linnets” is in my view, farcical.  Hitherto it appears to have been run like a secret society.  I think supporters have now begun to realise that “investing” any money into the club is putting good money after bad.  The current owner has saddled the club with unmanageable debt.  In my view it is delusional to think that a small sum raised by a few supporters will make any difference. Using the fans as a cash cow has, I believe, failed already judging by the poor attendances of home supporters so far.  To use a phrase loved by the owner “kerching”, I think might well be exhausted- let me suggest another he might like to use “chickens coming home to roost”.

For all the money raised by supporters the old club still went pop with huge debts to HMRC (and probably others) and that was playing at a lower level than we are now and without a pandemic to tip them over the edge.  It looks like we have always seemed to attract owners who hope that the club is some sort of sleeping giant and if we could only get to step x the fans will turn out in their droves which will justify the 'investment' to get there, unfortunately that doesn't appear to be any more true now than it did under Bobbins, although not sure he did much investing of his own money.

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